These Were All Supposed to Be Sold Out! | 2020 Epiphone Joe Bonamassa Les Paul Black Beauty Review

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 518

  • @Trog
    @Trog  3 роки тому +40

    Unfortunately, the MF/GC shipment has sold out - but I was happy to at least get to review this one! Good luck on the used market
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    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 3 роки тому +6

      Great catch/purchase, thank you for the review.
      To the Player who bought this through the NGD, thank you, much appreciated and congrats on your new Custom.

    • @jennifer6833
      @jennifer6833 3 роки тому +3

      Thank you for reviewing this! Can you please review one of the older Gibson BB King models or a Murphy Lab of some kind? I really enjoy your channel ☺️

    • @okayestguitar66
      @okayestguitar66 3 роки тому +4

      Funny, in the clip of you playing, the binding color is a bit off... Looks like a Halloween guitar! Binding kinda looks orange.

    • @Mr.Saltwater
      @Mr.Saltwater 3 роки тому +5

      Made in China right? 👎

    • @guiterslayer6013
      @guiterslayer6013 3 роки тому +2

      I like the fact he said fra-gi-le it must be from Italy 😂 right @trogly's guitar show

  • @PopeyeFPV
    @PopeyeFPV 3 роки тому +81

    They call that binding color “Marlboro yellow” 😂

    • @_dmfd
      @_dmfd 3 роки тому +2

      I liked this finished binding 🤷🏻‍♂️ it doesn't look true aged but it's cool seeing color to them aside from cream. Reminds me of the Les Paul ( Steve Howe ) or the Widow series with their colored binding.

    • @rubenpapa100
      @rubenpapa100 Рік тому

      @@_dmfd the binding is really odd for me, I can't work out if its orange or yellow and seems to change radically from the playing shots to the shots in the case.

  • @garystyc
    @garystyc 3 роки тому +92

    Bought this last year when it came out. I actually pre-ordered it and got it when it was released. Not perfect but I think it's a nice guitar especially for the price point. Was happy to see you doing a video review of it. 👍🏻

    • @Fabh83
      @Fabh83 3 роки тому +1

      Did the same, got it last December but couldn't fit the Bigsby/vibramate on it so I sold it a couple months later

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 3 роки тому +2

      Gary Styc - What's not perfect about it? Just the Epiphone vs. Gibson thing.....or major flaws?

    • @michaelheller8841
      @michaelheller8841 3 роки тому +1

      It's a great value no doubt. I didn't do anything special to mine. It sounds great and plays very well.

    • @mikeg.9238
      @mikeg.9238 2 роки тому +2

      Love the triple bucker!

    • @yannick2047
      @yannick2047 2 роки тому +3

      @@christopherweise438 the guitar is a great Blues/Bluesrock machine for the money.
      I don‘t know what he meant with it „not being perfect“. The only thing which I could
      imagine is that the nut is not cut 100% well, this could have been done a bit better,
      but is not a major bummer. In my case, the pickups sound great in my opinion, but
      it probably depends on the amp and the levels of gain you use this guitar with. Furthermore,
      the guitar has noticeably high levels of sustain and sounds great „unplugged“, both probably
      due to the fat neck-profile, the massive body and the long neck tenon.
      I can state that the neck pickup is great on a clean amp. In this context, the guitar
      can actually be used as a perfectly viable jazz guitar (on a dedicated, good clean amp).
      Otherwise, I use low- to mid-gain blues and rock tones, and for such tones the pickups
      work great. I can make no statements about high-gain heavy metal-type tones, however.
      Maybe that is where the guitar may fall flat, who knows.
      But even if you don‘t like the pickups: you can just exchange them! Overall, the guitar is
      a great base for modding, considering that the overall build quality is quite tidy.

  • @yannick2047
    @yannick2047 3 роки тому +28

    While I can understand the critique with the scratchy frets, one has
    to keep in mind that these things don‘t stay this way. After some few hours
    of blues playing on this thing, with some nice deep bends on all frets, all the
    frets will start to feel better. I have been playing (and loving) my JB Black Beauty
    since it’s arrival last winter and now the thing plays like butter. Effortless bends are
    possible on all frets, just like with my Gibson.

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 3 роки тому +3

      Just polish up the frets.

    • @jgenoese
      @jgenoese 3 роки тому +1

      Or ya know… oil the neck, polish the frets, and change the strings as soon as you get it.

    • @yannick2047
      @yannick2047 2 роки тому +2

      @@jgenoese neck on mine has been oiled thoroughly (ebony wood is actually very dry right out of the
      Box; after some thorough treatments with Dunlop lemon oil, one can start to appreciate how beautiful
      the fret boards on these models actually are). Furthermore, I tend to use nice strings (either D‘Addario
      XLs or DR „Veritas“ strings). Instead of sitting down and polishing the frets, the blues-guitar playing did
      it for me, as mentioned above. I am usually going for deep Gilmour-style bends a lot of the time and all over
      the neck, so it played nicely after just a few hours. But hey, if polishing the frets by hand is your method
      of choice and does the Trick, go ahead and do it.
      Actually, I always had the impression that the oil-treatments, together with wiping off the oil thoroughly,
      had huge positive effects on the playability. Sometimes, the „scratchiness“ which Trogly mentioned comes
      from a combination of non-polished frets and a dry fingerboard. For me, sometimes the wood of the fingerboard
      has an actually larger effect than the frets (the wood is what you actually press the strings down on; so this is
      what makes a large part of the „feel“ of the guitar).

    • @drjsmajor
      @drjsmajor 2 роки тому +1

      @@smelltheglove2038 Just polish them! I agree. I got a Dremmel to trim my dogs nails (thought it would be more gentle). He HATED it so I never really used it for nails. It spins slower than my regular Dremmel. I got a buffing wheel for it. I use the tiniest dab of metal polish after cleaning the frets and rub it in then buff with the "Dog Dremmel" at the lowest speed. Spectacular mirrored frets. I use Semi Chrome metal polish after first cleaning with 0000 Steel wool. Literally mirrored shine. Makes a HUGE difference in playability. I urge anyone to try mirroring their frets before saying it is unnecessary. It is a big, big difference. Semi chrome seems expensive but one tube is easily about 10 lifetimes of polish (you literally need the amount you would get by touching the corner of the rag to the top without squirting any out. One pea sized dot is enough to clean about 5 guitars).

  • @HandOfMetal
    @HandOfMetal 3 роки тому +25

    It's funny how in that your tone demo that binding looks orange instead of yellow. I actually think it looks better that way.

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom 3 роки тому

      Maybe a weird reaction to the green screen behind him?

    • @rajatkumar35
      @rajatkumar35 2 роки тому

      Incandescent lighting?

  • @chrisforever1255
    @chrisforever1255 3 роки тому +1

    Finally here is the review I have been waiting for since I get my JB Black Beauty in March 2021! Was sold out rapidly in Germany
    and I could grab a B-Stock from Thomann. Someone gave it back because of sharp fretends and I have to thank this customer.
    After overworking the frets in their workshop ( polishing too!) it was perfect and I love this guitar! The neck works perfect for me and it looks really amazing.
    BTW - The tuners on my guitar looks more like the ones in video and in this video Joe explains that the middle pickup is NOT installed in the way to have this
    out of fade tone! Anyway I like it and maybe I will swap the PUs to the 57 classic - it seems worth for me, because this guitar will never leave my house again!
    And I think that the tones in your demo have a little to much distortion to show what this guitar can sound - no highgain beast, more in the crunch and „Blues Driver“ range for great sounds 👍
    Thanks for the review and greetings from Germany 😎🎸

  • @johannphysio4977
    @johannphysio4977 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great review! I was one of the lucky ones to get this from Guitar Center when they magically reappeared. So happy with it. I have two Gibson Les Pauls and I have to say I enjoy this just as much and am playing this beast more than the other guitars in my “herd.” The middle position on the switch has a great single coil tone which I can’t get enough of (even with distortion running through it). I agree the yellowing on the binding is a bit much in certain lights, but if you dim the lights a little it looks authentic! Lol! Also, comparing this to the other custom shops by Epiphone, I really prefer the aesthetic of the ebony neck vs the rosewood as well. Lastly, the guitar stays in tune even after 30 minutes of messing around with solos from Gilmour. 5/5 stars from me.

  • @emmettmarrujo5075
    @emmettmarrujo5075 3 роки тому

    Great review! I have a 2020 Les Paul inspired by 1955 with P 90s and the binding is definitely not white over sprayed. I know this because there was some roughness on the binding in a few spots that I was able to buff smooth with micro fiber pads and the color didn’t change. Bought it from Musicians Friend and it came with polished frets and set up out of the case. Guitar was over all very clean no bleed in binding and finish was good throughout..

  • @zenistermister9695
    @zenistermister9695 3 роки тому +58

    Didn't know "cold" tuning knobs were an issue lol. 😂

    • @thomasberinati3380
      @thomasberinati3380 2 роки тому

      It’s more apparent because the guitar is Burning Hot!

  • @_dmfd
    @_dmfd 3 роки тому +2

    I personally love the finished binding on these. I'm telling you tho man you really need to find an Epi Lee Malia RD Artisan to get in and review. They were run in 2017 ik you're sort of familiar with this series but they are hands down the best bang for your buck artist limited edition Epi has one recently. Made in Indonesia, Gibson USA pups that Lee worked with the Custom Shop with, Gibson electronics and the Artisan outfit along with the RD body, they're just a gem. The tone diversity is so beautiful with that thing you can play any genre and sound great. Lee & and the CS did great on them. I lucked out last year and found a new old stock one and got it for MSRP! these sell for $1,200+ on their own but I also found a 24¾ scale Gibson USA TKL hardshell case for an RD for $100 last year too! Deal of the century on that case they're impossible to find 😂

  • @mikecarbone828
    @mikecarbone828 Рік тому

    Salutations Austin!
    I started to get excited about ordering one of these, and then I checked the date that you posted this video, which was a year ago, and I then was disappointed.
    This is a great Epiphone Les Paul for the price and it comes with a very nice hard shell case too.
    It sounds great and really came alive when you kicked in the overdrive.
    This may be the only Epiphone Les Paul Custom that is routed for three (3) pickups that I am aware of unless they also make a Peter Frampton Signature Les Paul Custom also.
    I would really like to pick up one of these someday, and add it to my collection.
    Thank you for posting these videos!
    Please have an excellent and awesome day!
    ☀️✨🎸

  • @boogerz
    @boogerz 3 роки тому +1

    Glad you finally got to check one out. Great video! I got one of these this past December and definitely think it's great for the unique features it offers at the price point.

  • @matthewsands1572
    @matthewsands1572 2 роки тому +2

    I've got an old Epiphone Black Beauty (old style head) that I bought in Australia in 2004. The binding on that was ivory, rather than that sickly yellow. I think it looked much better with the ivory look on the black body. The gold pick ups and bridge added to the beauty of it..
    Also a very nice sounding guitar. But a bit too heavy, gave me bad back at gigs.

  • @nalukeko
    @nalukeko 3 роки тому +10

    22:48 it's not the wire, it's the polish job, or lack thereof. You can get them polished up really nicely.

    • @_dmfd
      @_dmfd 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. The last 3 years or so they've stopped polishing them correctly at the factory but do a proper job and they won't scratch at all. They do wear sort of quickly tho but nothing crazy.

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 3 роки тому +3

    Bravo T《☆》The binding turned orange when you were playing it😁I miss my 79 Black beauty◇¿.I was thinking about adding a middle pickup before my preg gf said it'd be a good idea to put it out at our yard sale in 1993😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍

  • @jasoncamara8061
    @jasoncamara8061 3 роки тому +11

    I was able to buy mine brand new about 10 days before the official release (10/08/2020) at my local GC. As soon as I picked it up and plugged it into a Dsl40cr and played the first note, I knew I was gunna buy it. Great feel and sound. It’s tied for my favorite guitar with my gibs tv yellow special. I like it better than my Gibson 50s standard -and my 50s tribute.

    • @vincebauerle5942
      @vincebauerle5942 3 роки тому +1

      I have the same amp - and it sounds great out of that DSL40cr!! I thought about selling it for the $$ a few times, but when I play it again - I keep changing my mind and keeping it!

    • @jasoncamara8061
      @jasoncamara8061 3 роки тому

      @@vincebauerle5942 you thought of selling the Dsl40cr or the JB BB? I mostly play the JB BB through my dsl20hr and dsl100 now, so I’m selling the 40. Either way though they’re all great amps that this guitar sounds awesome through.

    • @vincebauerle5942
      @vincebauerle5942 3 роки тому +1

      @@jasoncamara8061 thought of selling the JB BB . Not the Marshall. But I do still have both.

    • @the_hippykiller22
      @the_hippykiller22 2 роки тому +1

      Why do you like it more than your gibsons?

    • @jasoncamara8061
      @jasoncamara8061 2 роки тому +2

      @@the_hippykiller22 the weight and feel of the neck is really just a bit better. The pups are different so I don’t rate it the same in the tone department (all my gibbys have p90s). So it is strictly a better feeling guitar

  • @danthedem
    @danthedem 3 роки тому +3

    I bought one of these and loved it! Unfortunately it was way too heavy (it weighed even more than my Gibson LP Standard 50's that I added a Bigsby to). I ended up selling mine locally for $1000 (on Facebook Marketplace) and put that money towards a Gretsch. I am sad that I had to sell it, but it was too hard (weight wise) to play, even sitting down. But if I could find one that is less weighty, I would love to get one again.

  • @john564holloway
    @john564holloway 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Splendid demo, Austin! Thx for defining a Black Beauty, which can be controversial. I love this axe. Definitely would ROCK this. I have 2 Epis so this would be nice to own but when I play 3-pup axes, my pick taps on the middle pup so I don't own any 3-pup axes.

  • @SilverTurtleZ28
    @SilverTurtleZ28 3 роки тому +1

    I pre-ordered mine and got it in the first batch to be delivered. It's a really good guitar and has been a very nice to play and compare to other Gibson models. The quality is definitely way better than the regular models. The Slash J45 is also of much better quality than the IBG model is, so I feel like it's something specific to artist model Epiphone guitars.

  • @rjohnson1690
    @rjohnson1690 3 роки тому +1

    I’m really happy with mine, love the neck and the tone. The knobs on mine have quite a bit of red swirl to them.

  • @dboone7670
    @dboone7670 3 роки тому +27

    I don't know what was going on with the color balance or whatever during the play demo, but the binding and headstock appointments look orange. Like some kinda speedway orange, and it looks way better than that lemon yellow.

    • @derrickharmon7980
      @derrickharmon7980 3 роки тому +5

      Gibson Les Paul Custom Black Beauty limited Trogly Halloween proto🎃👻 1 of 1 can turn yellow jacket to pumpkin depending on the time of the year

    • @dboone7670
      @dboone7670 3 роки тому +2

      @@derrickharmon7980 Yeeeeeeeeeees! It is very Halloween-y. Now that we're talking about it I've realized how much I NEED a spooky Les Paul. And by spooky, I mean lookin' like a Halloween themed worksheet you'd give a third grader. Cheesey-ass bats and witches and jack-o'-lanterns. That kinda stuff.

    • @jgenoese
      @jgenoese 3 роки тому +1

      In real life it matches the gold hardware

    • @Forest_Fifer
      @Forest_Fifer 3 роки тому +1

      Might be the green screen process affecting the colour, I remember him doing a gold sparkle finish which turned orange in the demo.

    • @jameshughes6049
      @jameshughes6049 3 роки тому

      I like the orange look better than the actual yellow.

  • @WilliamHaisch
    @WilliamHaisch 3 роки тому +1

    I loved the “orange” binding when you were on the chromakey, like an Epiphone orange widow!

  • @guyfromnj
    @guyfromnj 3 роки тому +20

    Binding turned orange during the playing demo. Looked better than the yellow

  • @fretted
    @fretted Рік тому

    I have one of these, and I agree about the tuners, they feel really crappy and sharp to tune. Funny yours didn't have any of the Blood Red streaks in the tuners. As far as the frets go, I polished mine to a mirror finish, they feel much better now. Thanks for the review, I just found it 🙂 Purchased mine October 2020.

  • @stereoroid
    @stereoroid 3 роки тому +2

    I’m also getting Robert Fripp vibes, he played a similar Black Beauty Custom in the 1970s on iconic King Crimson albums like Red.

  • @Briansm15
    @Briansm15 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone know where I can get/find a hardshell case for an Epiphone casino because I've tried looking on reverb and ebay and couldn't find much like I have a bag that sorta fits it but it's for some d'angelico Les Paul style guitar which guitar center gave me for free and I want an actual Epiphone branded hardshell for a casino because mine was made in 2020 or 2021 but looks like a vintage guitar in olive drab green and it plays really good minus the small fretboard from like 1st fret to like about 4th/5th fret like I like it but like the first 4/5 frets are kinda small for me because my hands are like Kurt Cobain's where he plays sloppy because his fingers are really big and the fretboard is to small

  • @townshendshean
    @townshendshean 3 роки тому +3

    Not a bad looking guitar! I never thought I'd buy a Chinese made guitar but I got the Epiphone Alex Lifeson model a couple months ago. It had some initial issues that I was able to fix but other than that...it's awesome! Still waiting for you to review that one!

    • @raymondreid4987
      @raymondreid4987 3 роки тому

      What problem did you have with the Alex Lifeson model? Was it the whammy bar?

  • @ericoswood1856
    @ericoswood1856 3 роки тому +9

    I tried one of these when they first came out. Compared to my standard Epiphone Black Beauty, I couldn’t get past the binding color on this one.

    • @joe3USA
      @joe3USA Рік тому +1

      I agree, the binding color ruins it for me.

    • @Dr.Jekyll
      @Dr.Jekyll 10 місяців тому

      What is a standard Epiphone Black Beauty? Do you mean the regular 2 humbucker LP Custom in black? I think it has have 3 pickups to be called a black beauty. That name doesn’t apply to any black and gold LP.

    • @ericoswood1856
      @ericoswood1856 10 місяців тому

      @@Dr.Jekyll the truss rod cover of the standard Epiphone custom in black with gold hardware said Les Paul Black Beauty. I have a Gibson Les Paul custom in black with gold hardware and the truss rod cover says Les Paul Custom. The black beauty name seems to be an Epiphone thing. They are currently discontinued.

  • @JustinSmithPYRO
    @JustinSmithPYRO 2 роки тому +1

    Personally. I think this is truly the best epiphone on the market. If you can find one anymore. I got mine about 18 months ago and love it. The only thing I wanted to do to it was put locking tuners in it as, all my guitars have them. But the screw pattern seems to be a little different then other's. I bought a set for it. But when I went to put them on, the holes were different, so I said nope. Not drilling holes in this one. But thank you for this video, as well as all your videos. Love your channel 🤘🤘 my preference for this is to play with the mid and bridge pick ups. Love the sound of them together. And the only thing i did, was raise the bridge up, just a little bit. But for 800 bucks. It truly is a bargain. Especially with the case you get too.

  • @mikeg.9238
    @mikeg.9238 2 роки тому

    That's one sweet epi , iv'e got the LP studio and i love it. No problems at all , quality is perfect. Might have to get this one , it's a steal! The Pro buckers sound good and handle high gains easily. Iv'e got them in my SG & LP with the coil splits....

  • @michaelheller8841
    @michaelheller8841 3 роки тому +5

    I got my JB early this year and I love it. I really lucked out on price. It was the last one available that I paid $650 new. Even for someone to pay $799 or more, it's worth it. Does it sound as good as my 59" Epiphone Les Paul? It sounds different. I do like the Gibson Burstbuckers better. Still, if you are a JB fan or not, it's a great value. If you don't like the Probuckers, it's still worth it to change them. I'm happy with the stock set up and I have other guitars with better pickups in them. Each guitar I own sounds different and that's what I want. To each his own. I always say, If it rings, sings, and screams it's for me lol.

    • @Trial212
      @Trial212 2 роки тому +1

      Wow you found one at $650, good deal!! I got mine a few months ago on sale for $699 and I thought that was a steal!!. It's an excellent sounding/playing guitar.

    • @michaelheller8841
      @michaelheller8841 2 роки тому +1

      @@Trial212 $699 is still a steal! What a guitar man. I got really lucky with Sam Ash direct and they guy said act fast, it’s my last one. I said how much? Come on man I don’t wanna eat Mac n Cheese for to long lol. He laughed and I got that great deal.

  • @rebelwithacause3574
    @rebelwithacause3574 3 роки тому +9

    It's beautiful. Whenever I see the black beauty I think of Billy Jones from the band "The Outlaws" who's a great player. I got a Les Paul custom earlier thisyear, my dream guitar. Thanks to the stimulus money, for stimulating my guitar collection.

    • @robertwelch3240
      @robertwelch3240 2 роки тому +1

      Oh yeah! Loved the outlaws! 🤗🤗🤗

    • @agusrgoro
      @agusrgoro Рік тому +1

      billy realy knew how to get a great tone out of that black beauty. such a great and underrated player, i love the video where he and hughie joins skynyrd in winterland '76

    • @rebelwithacause3574
      @rebelwithacause3574 Рік тому

      @@agusrgoro That's awesome man. I was raised in the late 80's and 90's. My dad raised me on Southern Rock, which makes sense as I'm a Southerner 😀. I always was drawn to his playing, and somber lyrics. As I got older and more musically inclined, I appreciate it even more.
      Other than the well known facts most outlaw fans know. Is there anything you know about this mysterious guitar player? There's not much of anything about his personality or whatever Billy may have been dealing with mentally.
      Another words... I'd like to know more about Billy, he was awesome 👌

  • @MEGAMIGA
    @MEGAMIGA 3 роки тому +1

    Those tuning knobs, Frank Zappa had them on his Les Paul Custom, the one depicted on the "Shut up and Play your Guitar" boxset ;)

  • @RYAN-cj2fp
    @RYAN-cj2fp 3 роки тому +1

    Lol.. I think you explained the tight input jack backwards. Going in easy and hard to get out would be what you’d rather have. That way your wire wouldn’t fall out…
    Love the channel!!! I never miss a video

  • @allisonholmesmusic97
    @allisonholmesmusic97 3 роки тому +1

    In front of the green screen the binding looks orange. Yellow or orange I would rock the hell out of that. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be available from Musicians Friend

  • @PaulGentile-nu8ft
    @PaulGentile-nu8ft 8 днів тому

    It's Sunday, July the 28th 2024. I just bought one of these off the rack for $1375. I didn't get the Bonamassa case buyt it came with a really nice "Road Runner" case, well padded like a Lifton case. Had to make adjustments to pick up height and the action which I set to 5/64 on the bass side and 3/64 on the treble side. Neck relief was spot on at .010". All in all it was a good purchase, something I'll play for the rest of my days along with my other guitars.

  • @richardu4535
    @richardu4535 3 роки тому

    I got lucky and grabbed on on 7/30/21. I went to my local GC center and they had none in stock but ordered on the spot from the warehouse. I asked if it was a floor model and he said no. They had 19 in stock on this date at the warehouse in KS. SCORE. Sounds and feels great. I always polish my frets with steel wool and a throw on a good set of D'addario's. Plays insanely well for the price. Even had the same US qc inspector #11. Maybe this dude snoozed on getting them thru?

  • @Rsmmt1009
    @Rsmmt1009 3 роки тому

    Trogly! So happy you got this in for a review. I bought mine day of release at my local GC. Bought their only one LOL! I have played it almost every day, and absolutely LOVE it! The middle position sound can be sooooo good.

  • @nellayema2455
    @nellayema2455 3 роки тому

    I have an Epiphone whose output jack was like this guitar's--hard to insert the cable jack. Upon investigation, I found that a wire had found its way into the input jack area. I pulled it out of the way and that took care of the problem. As for the fret buzz on the Bonamassa, if it is in the cowboy chord area, the neck might just be too straight, or have a slight back-bow.

  • @jehjeh007
    @jehjeh007 2 роки тому +1

    I have a Epi 2005 50th anniversary edition black beauty. While I did switch out the original pups for the probuckers, the Joe Bonamassa you just tested sound bad. Nothing like my epi. My guess is somebody skimped on the bobbin windings on that one. I like my Grovers because they stay tuned and add to the gold look of guitar. Finally, NOT a fan of the yellowing pin strip bindings. Mine are turning a brownish tint, naturally of course.

  • @COBHC8890
    @COBHC8890 3 роки тому +41

    I love Trogley's videos, but some of his comments on guitars, bugs me!!!
    $650 Epiphone - The guitar is ok! It has some fretboard tooling, the color is ok, the frets are rough, and the pickup cavity could use some work!!!
    $5,000 Gibson Les Paul- It has a small crack around the nut...its been re fretted...the input jack has been replaced, the paint has been touched up, and the pickguard is missing.... But that's ok!!!
    Me- 🤷‍♂️

    • @sbeard73
      @sbeard73 3 роки тому +11

      He's a Epiphone snob. I have a Standard Gibson and a Standard EPi, the EPI feels better, sorry but it do!! But he would never admit that. It hurts me so say it but I'm not going to lie.

    • @facurojas4477
      @facurojas4477 3 роки тому +7

      He never said it was bad for the value, he just point out some issues the guitar has, not every guitar has rough frets at that pricepoint for example, and think of the $5,000 Gibson as a collection item, it's NOT ok for him when something is replaced or repaired, but if it doesn't affect the playability I mean it isn't a $5,000 guitar bc of nothing, obviously it's gonna have great pickups and play well

    • @facurojas4477
      @facurojas4477 3 роки тому +2

      @@sbeard73 maybe yours does, that doesn't mean every epiphone plays better than a Gibson, that would even be illogical, but exceptions exist, maybe the Gibson has some issue or something

    • @sebastianmedina1234
      @sebastianmedina1234 3 роки тому +4

      @@facurojas4477 you’re gonna laugh at me but I kid you not I have a 2006 Gibson Standard Goldtop. I also own a super shitty Epi Les Paul 100 in cherry red. Guess which one I play constantly and the neck feels like butter? It’s the Epiphone. I even like the pickups on it better because of how easy it is to get feedback on them. That thing was just meant to produce sweet rockin tones. My Gibson hardly ever gets played these days, i feel bad but it’s just the way it goes

    • @facurojas4477
      @facurojas4477 3 роки тому +2

      @@sebastianmedina1234 I think maybe you don't have the same style of someone who wants a Gibson, I have a lot of respect for the LP100, I have the Cort version of that guitar (CR100) and I love it, A LOT but maybe the epi is more your style than the goldtop

  • @evrgreen_69
    @evrgreen_69 3 роки тому +1

    Yup orange 🍊 factor was trippy huh?..was thinking it needed a pumpkin 🎃 on it like the art guitar he did the other day..And to me sounded like it was playing through a wah pedal..Awesome riffs Trogly cool review!

  • @MrJingles021
    @MrJingles021 3 роки тому +19

    I love what Epiphone is doing. They are making crazy good guitars for the price. I've bought 3 Epiphones since 2020, and my Les Paul Modern is amazing.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  3 роки тому +4

      The epi moderns are the best!

    • @MrJingles021
      @MrJingles021 3 роки тому

      @@Trog The value they offer is amazing. The Probuckers are very underrated, locking tuners, am ebony fretboard and color variety. What more could you want?

    • @dbspecials1200
      @dbspecials1200 3 роки тому +1

      I'm due for another one. I should, I gained $12K on just two of my crypto coins in the past 3 days ;-) No need to sell an old guitar for $$.

  • @jpetes9046
    @jpetes9046 3 роки тому

    Too hardcore orange; should be more yellow... but still beautiful.
    I’m happy they’re still available.
    Also happy they sound good!
    HEY- I just noticed, at the end of the review the color had apparently adjusted and the binding (to me) now had the correct amount of yellow!!

  • @thirtyeight4558
    @thirtyeight4558 3 роки тому +5

    Frog Leaves in the HOUSE!!!

  • @musicauthority703
    @musicauthority703 2 роки тому +1

    I want one of those guitars at that price even if it is an Epiphone guitar. and just for the guitar itself, the bonus is that it's a Joe Bonamasa signature model. he's a fantastic guitarist and one of my favorites. what an AWESOME value? but I bet their all gone by now but I'm to check out guitar center.

  • @keshin_martin
    @keshin_martin 3 роки тому +1

    Since Epiphone is starting to do collaborations with the Gibson Custom Shop plus how popular these guitars are, I would find it awesome if they released an Epiphone collection of the Widow series. Get the Black, Red, Purple, Blue, Green, Yellow, and Orange Widows for the Epiphone Les Pauls

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      This was a collaboration too

  • @philipbessant1104
    @philipbessant1104 3 роки тому +3

    Sounded different when Joe played it?

  • @dannytribble1186
    @dannytribble1186 2 роки тому

    That neck binding just almost glowes.

  • @mattchurchill
    @mattchurchill 3 роки тому +1

    Love that yellow binding.

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 2 роки тому

    An amber switch tip and colored nut and it would be perfect. Nit nit… I have an old studio with mahogany top and it’s the tone! That JB looks and sounds pretty sweet! I’ve been wanting to see a review on these. Thanks…

  • @antonyyuryev9750
    @antonyyuryev9750 3 роки тому

    have same feeling with yellow binding on my edwards, in person looks so goofy ... but on photo/video looks very legit... and this one looks so cool on tone demo part of the video!!!

  • @TheTricov
    @TheTricov 3 роки тому +2

    I Bought the $679 2021 custom because I like the white binding so much better. Got it use like new for $400 . Someone had taken off the gold pickup covers. I put them back on. I love it so much. glad for the current headstock shape.

    • @mikestrowbridge
      @mikestrowbridge 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. I got that Bonamassa Black Beauty and I really want a custom with white binding. It could be a two pickup version but still, I want a mahogany top and a long neck tenon like the one above. That being said, I accept that my Bonamassa comes with yellow tinted binding. By accepting its yellow, I really like it but now I have to resist putting a Batman Sticker on it. Black and Gold look great together.

    • @TheTricov
      @TheTricov 3 роки тому

      @@mikestrowbridge You also have better wiring mine has the quick connects and disc caps. Mine is all mahogany but a short tenon. I'm going to re wire with 4 push/pull pots soon.

    • @mikestrowbridge
      @mikestrowbridge 3 роки тому +1

      I am pretty confidant it is already amazing. Keep your pickups and wiring intact for later as best you can after that install. Hope you have fun and it sounds great.
      I have a 2019 Epiphone Traditional Pro III limited Edition with the battery compartment so its fourth push pull on the bridge tone is a 15 db boost. Helps when you pull the out of phase and the power is cut and when I am playing on a battery powered amp !

    • @TheTricov
      @TheTricov 3 роки тому

      @@mikestrowbridge I will and thanks for the boost mod tip. I think I might add that in.

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 3 роки тому

    I think I'd like the ability to blend the additional pickup. Or if there was a way to not detract from the original set up for the looks. Maybe a different toggle with more switching options. Maybe it's something with your lighting doing the sound run through but everything gold or yellow appears as either copper or a deep dark brass. That in my opinion what look awesome as an option on such a guitar.

    • @ces69
      @ces69 2 роки тому

      Easy fix, just alter the wiring to 3 volume 1 tone with the middle on in any position and blended in with the 3rd volume control!

  • @Cookie4yabro
    @Cookie4yabro 3 роки тому +1

    I saw one recently at a local Sam Ash on the wall and I immediately came back with stuff to trade in and took it home the same day. It’s such a beautiful guitar that would be a great mod platform. I was thinking of going with a Pearly Gates set for the Bridge and Neck and a Phat Cat for the middle pickup.

  • @facelessnomore
    @facelessnomore 3 роки тому

    Interesting your comment on the jack socket. When mine arrived it was next to impossible to put the plug in, any way took it to the tech. I use and when he opened it up the cavity was so small that there was physically not enough room for the latching part of the socket to move back and admit the plug and the tech had to enlarge the cavity. Also the frets were terrible as far as level was concerned. Cost me about £150 to get it into good playable condition.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      It's a switchcraft Jack and switch too.

  • @pabcrane
    @pabcrane 3 роки тому +1

    It certainly looks like a great guitar - however I just couldn't get over the bright yellow binding. I'd feel like I was in a Stryper cover band!

  • @cliffmonster
    @cliffmonster 3 роки тому

    Always enjoy your video's, now you have to do the epiphone slash les paul, I got the green one on backorder.just checked GC and if u do a srearch it doesn't come up for the bonamassa black beauty.

  • @SDisonYT
    @SDisonYT 3 роки тому

    The one I’m dying to find/see is the Epiphone Alex Lifeson Les Paul Axcess model with the piezo and Floyd rose. I cannot find those anywhere, including Reverb.

  • @rickwarda2671
    @rickwarda2671 3 роки тому

    Bought his ES-335 in black with the gold hardware. I have to say I’m so glad they didn’t go yellow on the binding. Love the guitar but talk about chunky, how about 10 plus pounds and I removed the Bixgby!

  • @williamtm1965
    @williamtm1965 3 роки тому +1

    Guitar Center/ Musician's Friend got a batch of around 50 guitars. These were made in November of 2020, it looks like this batch was delayed, probably due to Covid related logistical reasons.
    50 guitars is not that much and they were sold out in just few days. Some lucky people scored some and it looks like there will be no more of these JB guitars.

  • @fretboardfatfingers8774
    @fretboardfatfingers8774 3 роки тому

    Mine sounds great - after I put in some neck relief and raised the bridge to get rid of the buzz. My only gripe, and I'm very surprised the Trog-master didn't mention it - are the sharp fret ends on all frets, both sides. Unless I just got one that they rushed thru the factory, it is very noticeable while playing, and nowhere near any of my Gibson LP's. So I'll have to take it to have them filed down. Not the end of the world, but the way JB bragged on the quality of these, I was disappointed.

  • @che2335
    @che2335 3 роки тому

    Seeing the trim and liking thinner necks Id go custom w creme trim and install a recessed Switchcraft

  • @DaMainDude
    @DaMainDude 3 роки тому +2

    16:00 - Funny how it looks completely orange in the tone demo. Sounds nice though!

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan4992 Рік тому

    Anyone know of another way to get a 'period correct' 1958 neck profile on a Les Paul other than buying a Gibson LPR8?

  • @prepre73
    @prepre73 3 роки тому +1

    Okay so I know it's just the green screen keying that has turned the binding orange but honestly I'm digging it, if I could afford too I would definitely do a made to measure doing just that

    • @Grayjacket11
      @Grayjacket11 3 роки тому +2

      it's like an Epiphone Black Widow! 😂

  • @pasdedeux4444
    @pasdedeux4444 Рік тому

    Which would you choose? Black Beauty or Lazarus?

  • @MarcMercier1971
    @MarcMercier1971 3 роки тому +1

    Was wondering when you'd do a review. Was going to send mine to you.

  • @joeturner7959
    @joeturner7959 2 роки тому

    If I found the demo model I played @ guitar center, I would love to play it again, and again. No question, it was the very finest guitar I have ever played. Setup, intonation, every single piece was perfect.
    And as a Bonamassa, why are the strings not over wrapped?

  • @ericbgordon1575
    @ericbgordon1575 3 роки тому +1

    What's the price tag for this same Epi without Joey's signature attached?

  • @wooferdevlin3571
    @wooferdevlin3571 3 роки тому +1

    Halloween axe!! It turned orange during demo, looked cool. It's all there, needs some twiddling, but great for the money. Ü♥♫

  • @anthonygonzalez8684
    @anthonygonzalez8684 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome guitar. Tuners? Vintage tuners would make it a seller. Even grovers. Great Demo. Thanks.

  • @2dazetake
    @2dazetake 3 роки тому

    Your talking about bakelite reproduction tuners, original bakelite can have some awesome swirls of color,from this first used plastic,a lot of vintage amps have bakelite knobs.

  • @saltpeter7429
    @saltpeter7429 3 роки тому +1

    I have been content with a KOREAN made Epiphone. Every Epi I have been lucky to gather from that country of manufacture has been good and dependable. I have friends who laugh and make fun of them, I was told that in the past there was some rough issues with QC. I have not noticed. Just swap the pickups and away we go.

  • @jeromewagschal9485
    @jeromewagschal9485 2 роки тому

    With such a yellowed binding the nut should have been an aged bone nut...
    I'm just nitpicking 😁 I could install one easily if necessary...
    Great Les Paul, I considered getting one of these a while ago to go with my Korean Black Beauty...
    Maybe it's just the light where you are but the binding looks orange around the guitar...Which is unique and fabulous...

  • @lilivi4301
    @lilivi4301 3 роки тому

    The local GC had one the day after the big announcement on them. I went and grabbed it, didn't know they were going to be such a hot seller.
    Not a big fan of the bridge pickup, swapped for a SD Custom Custom

  • @YoloMcSwaggot
    @YoloMcSwaggot 3 роки тому +1

    Gee, here I was thinking that the "cream" binding on my Epi Standard was way too yellow.

  • @ralphwest8156
    @ralphwest8156 3 роки тому

    aaaah Mahogany Ebony Black and Gold 3 pup ...what is there not to like ' ...tones are superb for the Epi version ...definitely do the mod and blend the middle ...super aged binding and fantastic snug yellow lined case ...totally Black Epi' Beauty for a fraction of the price...

  • @knockoutguitarist087
    @knockoutguitarist087 3 роки тому +9

    It was either this or a 79 Greco so I bought the Greco. I appreciate joe b a lot. But I’m just not into this model I saw them on guitar center a few weeks ago it looks really nice but I just never liked how epiphones sound.

    • @janiterinadrum1627
      @janiterinadrum1627 3 роки тому +1

      I agree.
      I would just rather try to save up a couple of grand and buy a 3 pickup Gibson

    • @knockoutguitarist087
      @knockoutguitarist087 3 роки тому

      I actually have a 2005 three pickup Gibson Les Paul custom bigsby fitted it’s TOP NOTCH! The Greco is my first vintage guitar it’s one of those Japanese Les Paul copies I figure if I don’t like it much I can just sell it and buy a bassbreaker or something I just want to see if it’s all it’s cracked up to be

    • @jgenoese
      @jgenoese 3 роки тому +1

      @@janiterinadrum1627 the Gibson equivalent of this guitar is 6k

    • @jordanb2939
      @jordanb2939 3 роки тому +2

      @@janiterinadrum1627 ok boomer

    • @jubei7259
      @jubei7259 3 роки тому +2

      70's 'lawsuit era' Greco's are fantastic guitars though. They really are. (& this coming from a guy who owns 6 Gibsons & has owned at least 20 over the years)

  • @robindidymus
    @robindidymus 3 роки тому +6

    Much better QC than recently reviewed Gibsons!

    • @DavidMorales008
      @DavidMorales008 3 роки тому +1

      Yes but apparently the more people pay the more forgiving they are of QC

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      They should be epiphone took a huge punt opening a factory in China to improve consistency and have great control of quality.
      It's payed off largely now the factory is over 17 years and produces fine guitars. The LP tend to be the best, but that should be expected since Les Paul are kinda Gibson and epiphone bread and butter.

    • @yannick2047
      @yannick2047 3 роки тому

      @@SionynJones Epi‘s produced in China are probably one of
      the factors that saved the whole Gibson brand in their 2016 - 2018 crisis.

  • @JohnDoe-mh8tm
    @JohnDoe-mh8tm 2 роки тому

    I really like the yellow binding

  • @ericbgordon1575
    @ericbgordon1575 3 роки тому

    Suppose it's the floor model that you're after? I remember during my birthday in January 2017 ,I went to get the Epiphone ES-355 Pro from Guitar and was all set to go home with the floor model. Next thing I know, the employee selling it to me is putting the floor model back on the rack he took it down from and pulling an untouched one out of their inventory. That one never satisfied me the way the floor model did.
    Wishing you hadn't mentioned Kemper. I've been trying to resist getting any of his products for a long time.

  • @nsp477
    @nsp477 2 роки тому

    It would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of this black beauty and the Lazarus.

  • @electroKrunch
    @electroKrunch 3 роки тому

    Good looking guitar, but I agree Austin, the binding looks like caramel!! Still not a terrible look...
    Thanks for another terrific vid man!!

  • @firstnamefirst3200
    @firstnamefirst3200 3 роки тому +1

    Bought my son an Epiphone LP studio while with gold last Christmas and myself a Gibson LP studio early this year. They are both nice players and without the ability to compare Id speak highly of the Epiphone at id think 499? Last week had to re- solder the output jack on his epi. Yeah the price difference comes from more than where its made.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      True but really Gibson guitars are quite overpriced especially their run of the mill guitars.

    • @firstnamefirst3200
      @firstnamefirst3200 3 роки тому

      @@SionynJones Ive got a dozen guitars, fender mexico, dean, dangelico, g&l, squiers, and a few gibsons. Have also some over the years that I regret selling. Am impressed with what is coming out of Indonesia these days for instance. I bought "open box" LP studio around $950 (1500ish list) came near perfect condition and setup. Still can't bring myself to spend big gibson $ and I like all my guitars for different reasons, but the studio just really shines in ways that none of the others do

  • @scottbogfoot
    @scottbogfoot 3 роки тому +1

    Nice! I ordered mine in September of '20 received it in November of '20. Absolutely amazing. Mine like yours is yellow but it has inconsistencies in how bright it is. Also my tuners looks way better imo then this one. This one's looks less marble like. Awesome to see inside it, I never take mine out of the case let alone take it apart! 😂😂

    • @raytorvalds3699
      @raytorvalds3699 3 роки тому +1

      Wait, so you never play the guitar ?

    • @indiekiduk
      @indiekiduk 3 роки тому +1

      At least hang it on the wall and enjoy it before the gold plating fades

    • @scottbogfoot
      @scottbogfoot 3 роки тому +1

      @@raytorvalds3699 😂😂😂😂 I have like 25 guitars 5 or 6 of them have never been out of the cases, sometimes I wonder if they're really in there.

    • @scottbogfoot
      @scottbogfoot 3 роки тому

      @@indiekiduk I'd never hang a guitar on a wall. 😃

    • @raytorvalds3699
      @raytorvalds3699 3 роки тому

      @@scottbogfoot Hehe wow.

  • @mooper11
    @mooper11 3 роки тому

    This doesnt give me good hope for the Alex Lifeson LP Axcess. Same just okay pickups and fretwire will probably hold that thing back as well

  • @KALVIN123
    @KALVIN123 3 роки тому +43

    That epi have better QC that most Gibsons 😂

    • @PopeyeFPV
      @PopeyeFPV 3 роки тому +4

      There’s probably nets surrounding the building too. 😂

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      @@PopeyeFPV wouldn't of thought so Gibson Own the factory they build guitars in. They built it 17 years ago as a way to drive up standards instead of using OEM factories to build epiphone guitar's.

    • @PopeyeFPV
      @PopeyeFPV 3 роки тому +1

      @@SionynJones the CCP owns it and Gibson takes its cut of the money. You do know China is communist right?

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому +2

      @@PopeyeFPV what's more the west hardly treats it's works fairly. So I don't get this sinophobia plenty of American workers are treated much worse.
      China isn't chosen to manufacture stuff because it's cheep (it isn't anymore) it's chosen because it has far better skill set and better infrastructure.
      Where as the west was more concerned lining the pocket of billionaires than fixing problems of infrastructure and investing in the country. Strangely these type would have you believe they are patriots.

    • @PopeyeFPV
      @PopeyeFPV 3 роки тому +4

      @@SionynJones you didn’t answer my question. Again, You do know that China is communist right?

  • @marmadukewinterbotham2599
    @marmadukewinterbotham2599 2 роки тому +2

    "These are strictly limited to the number we can sell."

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 2 роки тому

      A lot them got trashed in shipping too there's significantly less than any one thinks.
      Gibson and epiphone churn out Les Paul custom like there's no tomorrow, you litterly have one the most rare guitars hear.

  • @monstrok
    @monstrok 3 роки тому +3

    The cargo ships! Yes! Great deduction. I wonder how much other "out of stock" inventory is still sitting in ports and waiting to be unloaded.

    • @dbspecials1200
      @dbspecials1200 3 роки тому +3

      Can affect the used market for sure. suddenly a bunch of unexpected new ones appear? kinda like dollar bills with the govt .. lol..

    • @fritsvanzanten3573
      @fritsvanzanten3573 3 роки тому

      There was one stuck in the Suez Canal for a while. So not shipS, just one, with a large cargo.

    • @fritsvanzanten3573
      @fritsvanzanten3573 3 роки тому

      @@johnnyola2205 That sounds (more than) reasonable

    • @fritsvanzanten3573
      @fritsvanzanten3573 3 роки тому

      @@johnnyola2205 It's not clear to me whether those import guitars get checked once arrived and before they go to customers.I also understood humidity matters, so living in a port city may be different from living in drier states?

  • @dalekoster9955
    @dalekoster9955 3 роки тому +1

    What would it sound like with all three pickups on at the same time?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  3 роки тому +3

      Check out the Mickey Baker Les Paul Custom review for that

  • @GuitarTalkWithBrian
    @GuitarTalkWithBrian 2 роки тому

    I got super distracted by the Levi's guitar strap! What model is that?

  • @dougreed9843
    @dougreed9843 2 роки тому

    My comment is I got a different perspective about Joe, this being an affordable guitar for the working teen in the average suburb in the US that would like to say put together an Gibson equivalent still owned by Gibson would seem the logical choice, having grown up in the 60's and 70's this guitar seem perfect fir the local garage band doing high-school parties not old enough to do the regular gig circuit yet precticewriting there own sings etc.. testing the skill set in many areas with a great guitar. To me s brilliant Joe Banamassa idea for the reality Joe grew up in the suburbs of NYC his coming if age was kind if just as I described my idea market fir up and coming musicians getting their early start. The kids are getting a real deal and still a good guitar for the price, I believe all those less then perfect issues can be cleaned up for most part definitely can be improved at any rate. Nice deal bro..

  • @mikestrowbridge
    @mikestrowbridge 3 роки тому

    The Middle Pickup is designated as PB2GHBM-C The Neck is designated PB2GHBN-C. Even though they are both Alnico 2s, they have a different model number.

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому +1

      Nice spot Joe mentioned they were voiced to be like his black beauty much like the probuckers used in slashes guitar these are unique to this model.

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer 3 роки тому

    I'm a bit torn between this model and the 59. Have you reviewed the 59?

  • @stevengood6434
    @stevengood6434 3 роки тому

    I have the bonamassa 1960 norm burst and really like it but the Epiphone toggle switch does suck. Going to change it out and everything should be good

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones 3 роки тому

      It's a switchcraft switch on this model

  • @deanmccaskill5495
    @deanmccaskill5495 3 роки тому

    I like the shape of those Epiphoney cases way better than my Gibsons. I wish my cases came with that bubble on the top like that. I like that better. Maybe custom shop cases are like that? I’ve got like 5 USA ones and although they’re nice I wish they were more shaped like that.

  • @yadakc
    @yadakc 3 роки тому

    I really don't like the binding, and really glad I was one of the first to pre-order the Epi 59 RI, which I will never understand why you haven't even unboxed one. It's a much better sounding guitar, looks great, and my frets came well polished.
    Peace, Keith

  • @vincentgalli17
    @vincentgalli17 9 місяців тому

    Epiphone doesn’t really make any limited edition things. Pretty sure when they announced the 59 Les Paul with burst buckers there was supposed to be 1,959 made and I bought the one immediately and they still make it over 3 years later and it still says limited edition on the back of the head stock.

  • @bradc32
    @bradc32 3 роки тому +1

    whats with the yellow binding,?$800 ya good price i guess,not a fan of those bridges either.would rather have a low end gibson myself