Aside from my dream to see some of my favorite aircraft on this channel like the Bd4c and the bearhawk 4 I have to take a second and say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS! You really are doing a great service for aviation and I want to you know people care about these video your making. So again, THANK YOU SIR!!! 😊
I feel like you’re missing an important caveat… you’ll be hard-pressed to find one that wasn’t abused as a trainer with a couple of gear-ups in its logbook.
Mine is a 1970 200hp with only 2000 hours. Never a trainer, always babied, no damage history. I saw others with similar numbers when I bought mine, so they are out there.
As an Arrow I owner (mine is 200 hp), I'd say your video is spot on with one exception: good luck with the idea of a "140 knot cruise". Yes, my 200 hp Arrow One will do 140 knots, but I have to really thrash it to get it there...136 knots is more reasonable two up, or 132 knots at gross. Other than that small nit, I'd say good video! My plane even looks like your drawing, same color and scheme.
It would be interesting to compare these to more late model arrows and archers. Our club has a 1999 Archer and it will do 130 TAS all day, which is only 5 or so knots slower than our Arrow 3. I think the newer cowlings make a huge difference on these planes.
Would be great if you would be making a video about the Socata TB20 compared to the Arrow, Mooney, etc. Would be a nice group of similar planes for a group of potential buyers looking for he typical 140-150kts, 800-1000f/m, 800nm range, and 900-1100 lbs load.
Your videos are amazing they've become my go to budget guide. You should consider doing a vid on a new french two seater aircraft from elixir (very interesting case that one).
A little about Annuals, I used to work in the military then for a military contractor on fixed wing and rotary. In that world things are pretty black and white, it's broke or its not....more or less. in the last year I have come out of retirement and started working at an old friends AMO. The amount of General Aviation junk that comes in for annuals is rather shocking to me, and the price of repairs is rather shocking to our new customers. Our AMO is pretty picky about releasing a quality product but we are able to do risk management and be realistic about what is ok and what needs to be fixed. So what am I on about, People paying for cheap annuals for years and who think they are getting a deal are fooling themselves. Someday it will catch up to them, or a new owner either in an accident or when the aircraft makes it to a quality shop the years of neglect will come at a cost.. For my two cents, try to get a hanger for your aircraft , and find a good AMO. to look after plane. And for the love of god get a good pre buy inspection done, don't let nice paint and a clean interior lead you down a path of worn out retracts and an engine that's full of corrosion. Have fun , stay safe.
@@CompleteWalkaround No problem, jut reminded me of a Mooney we did an annual on not long ago. Pretty air plane but it had not had a proper annual in years, when we jacked it the nose gear was completely worn out and honestly ready to fail. along with other problems.
@@boogerwood I would look at a shop that does commercial aircraft and does a few general aviation ones on the side, commercial guys are generally more picky. There are great small shops out there too don't get me wrong, We charge 1200 for an annual and snags are extra.
1100 is pretty rare. Some of the 180hp Arrows are up over 1000 but it's pretty hard for a 200hp to do so. Many websites that quote performance numbers give the factory numbers which tend to be optimistic. If you look through classifieds of 200hp Arrows pretty well all are in the 900s.
The prices have definitely increased since making this video. Also, the Arrow is a 130 knot aircraft unless you take it up to 6 or 8 thousand feet. Then you will get 135 knots.
i like the pontiac gearshift style throttles................its just too dangerous.....plus you always gotta talk to tower heads...wind gus, clouds,sun glare, rtarded birds.........
Insurance cost is a good bit higher and variable cost are a solid bit higher. I set aside 40hr for maintenance on top of fuel. What about 25-35,000 engine overhaul/reman with today’s market and prop overhaul? My hull value is a 160k though so mileage may vary.
Aside from my dream to see some of my favorite aircraft on this channel like the Bd4c and the bearhawk 4 I have to take a second and say
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS!
You really are doing a great service for aviation and I want to you know people care about these video your making.
So again, THANK YOU SIR!!!
😊
Wow, thanks
I feel like you’re missing an important caveat… you’ll be hard-pressed to find one that wasn’t abused as a trainer with a couple of gear-ups in its logbook.
I’ve got a 1969 with zero damage history. 6,000TT
Mine is a 1970 200hp with only 2000 hours. Never a trainer, always babied, no damage history. I saw others with similar numbers when I bought mine, so they are out there.
@@countryfence8111 what’s your hull value?
Ouch. We have a 67 Arrow, 4,200 TTAF, no damage history.
OK all of you are missing my point, lol … none of your aircraft are for sale. In this market, good luck finding one like that.
As an Arrow I owner (mine is 200 hp), I'd say your video is spot on with one exception: good luck with the idea of a "140 knot cruise". Yes, my 200 hp Arrow One will do 140 knots, but I have to really thrash it to get it there...136 knots is more reasonable two up, or 132 knots at gross. Other than that small nit, I'd say good video! My plane even looks like your drawing, same color and scheme.
You fly at 75% at all times for flying at 140?
@@TheJuanma1612 75%, wide open throttle, 2400 rpm at 6500 MSL by myself will get my fastest speed: 143 knots.
You’re cooler than the cardinal man 😎 keep up the good stuff and thanks for being you! See you in the next!
Gee, thanks man 😊
Your videos are the gems of aviation-UA-cam
I'm still putting my plug in for the Beech 18. Though the Pietenpol would be fun in your unique style too.
I second this. Beech 18s are cool and so are Pietenpols.
Good picks. No question 👍🏻
I've never subbed to a channel so fast. You're a real gem. Great, and better every video! Keep up the good work!
I got my commercial in an Arrow I! Once you got used to that Clark Y wing, it was all right. It was a good, smooth, and solid airplane.
It would be interesting to compare these to more late model arrows and archers. Our club has a 1999 Archer and it will do 130 TAS all day, which is only 5 or so knots slower than our Arrow 3. I think the newer cowlings make a huge difference on these planes.
Hey CW, can you do a video on the past aviation market, the current aviation market and what the aviation market forecast will look like?
Do the B29 FIFi. Thinking about buying it
You NEED to do one about the mig 21. There are a few on sale
UA-cam keeps recommending me all of your videos after only having my PPL for a few months 😂. Gotta prepare to own a plane some time!
UA-cam is wise
Would be great if you would be making a video about the Socata TB20 compared to the Arrow, Mooney, etc. Would be a nice group of similar planes for a group of potential buyers looking for he typical 140-150kts, 800-1000f/m, 800nm range, and 900-1100 lbs load.
Do a Boeing 727 next! Used ones are real cheap now.
What are reverse and maintenence costs?
Loving it! Would also love love a Comanche video!
Can we see Arrow III or IV with turbo? Maybe both in the same video with a few callouts on differences?
Would love a video on the T-6 Texan!
Thats a "dream plane" for me, that would be somewhat attainable.
Great video! Do a Cessna Mix Master! …. I mean Skymaster 337
Arrow III or IV on the horizon? or a arrow comparison
Thank you for another awesome vid. Do you have any plans to make a video about C510 Citation Mustang?
Your videos are amazing they've become my go to budget guide. You should consider doing a vid on a new french two seater aircraft from elixir (very interesting case that one).
Your videos are great and I know you are busy with other planes but can you do the lancair lx7-20 at some point?
You did an Arrow!!! Thank you!
Just for you 😉
Can you do j3 cub?
Love those! Flew a '42 for a while. Lots of fun, especially with the VGs across the wings.
A little about Annuals, I used to work in the military then for a military contractor on fixed wing and rotary. In that world things are pretty black and white, it's broke or its not....more or less. in the last year I have come out of retirement and started working at an old friends AMO. The amount of General Aviation junk that comes in for annuals is rather shocking to me, and the price of repairs is rather shocking to our new customers. Our AMO is pretty picky about releasing a quality product but we are able to do risk management and be realistic about what is ok and what needs to be fixed.
So what am I on about, People paying for cheap annuals for years and who think they are getting a deal are fooling themselves. Someday it will catch up to them, or a new owner either in an accident or when the aircraft makes it to a quality shop the years of neglect will come at a cost..
For my two cents, try to get a hanger for your aircraft , and find a good AMO. to look after plane. And for the love of god get a good pre buy inspection done, don't let nice paint and a clean interior lead you down a path of worn out retracts and an engine that's full of corrosion.
Have fun , stay safe.
As always, thanks for your insight
@@CompleteWalkaround No problem, jut reminded me of a Mooney we did an annual on not long ago. Pretty air plane but it had not had a proper annual in years, when we jacked it the nose gear was completely worn out and honestly ready to fail. along with other problems.
How do you know if it’s a good pre inspection? And what does a good one cost?
@@boogerwood I would look at a shop that does commercial aircraft and does a few general aviation ones on the side, commercial guys are generally more picky. There are great small shops out there too don't get me wrong, We charge 1200 for an annual and snags are extra.
can you do one on the republic sea bee
how about the sf260?
I question if the useful load of 950 lbs is correct? My googling suggests a little over 1100 for the arrow I; empty 1459, gross 2600?
1100 is pretty rare. Some of the 180hp Arrows are up over 1000 but it's pretty hard for a 200hp to do so. Many websites that quote performance numbers give the factory numbers which tend to be optimistic. If you look through classifieds of 200hp Arrows pretty well all are in the 900s.
@@CompleteWalkaround Thanks for the clarification!
My 1970 Arrow I (200hp) has a useful of 1016 lbs. When I bought mine, I saw several others over 1000 lbs.
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Thank you! Fixed
Insurance is surprisingly low for a retractable gear plane
It is. Just the low hull value
I missed you
I missed you too ☺️
Great video I hope to see a bearhawk 4
im looking into a specific plane to buy, and i would like to know what you say about the cessna 414 or 340A
They're not cheap for sure. 414 is a different league than 340.
@@CompleteWalkaround i found both, the 1974 414 for $265,000 and a 1980 340A for $307,500
@@CompleteWalkaround from the looks of them, they have all the features im looking for, but, i dont know the specs nor the CoO
Yes there's lots and lots for sale all the time. I'll get to these guys eventually
Thank you for this!!!!!!!
You are welcome
Citabria? 7GCAA?
Does this mean the Sierra might be soon??
Sierra is on the short list yes. Need to give entry piston single retracts a breather, but will be the next of that bunch
Do lancair
Beechcraft Sierra or super sport III would be cool.
Awesome thanks so.much
Bell 206?
The prices have definitely increased since making this video. Also, the Arrow is a 130 knot aircraft unless you take it up to 6 or 8 thousand feet. Then you will get 135 knots.
Piper Colt, please!
i like the pontiac gearshift style throttles................its just too dangerous.....plus you always gotta talk to tower heads...wind gus, clouds,sun glare, rtarded birds.........
you tube recommendatuons gona turn me from a car guy to a plane guy🤣🤝
I can't afford a plane, so I put a sticker on my wife's car that says "my other car is a broom"
Oooo I already did buy one
Yay another Piper.
0:54 the plane is a beech bonanza and not an arrow
That’s a Beechcraft Sierra
Insurance cost is a good bit higher and variable cost are a solid bit higher. I set aside 40hr for maintenance on top of fuel. What about 25-35,000 engine overhaul/reman with today’s market and prop overhaul? My hull value is a 160k though so mileage may vary.
When Pilatus PC-12
Woah that thing looks wierd, not as wierd as the grob tutor though, video on the g115 maybe?
That looks like a Beechcraft at 0:56, not an Arrow!