I hope that predator of a social worker didn't just lose his job but faced criminal charges too. An adult man starting a relationship with a child, especially a social worker who is charged with looking after the most vulnerable, is criminal. And it's also a gross abuse of power. It makes me sad that she talks about what was clearly a predatory relationship as if it was her fault, or somehow mutual. When kids are let down or taken advantage of by the adults who were trusted to look after them, it's not hard to see how they end up on a bad road. I really hope that man went to prison and never worked with children again.
@@phunkyhouse actually studies have revealed that men of all ages are most attracted to 15.5 year old females (in the absence of external decorations like makeup which is used more by 18+ females)
@nfh688jfnie huh? I'm saying that this person is an example of how being victimized and traumatized as a young person, how those actions played into her life and her choices throughout.
When she said about not being emotionless and explained it all the compassion I felt for her was overwhelming!! So correct!! She or others have to move on and forgive themselves. Her words helped me so much. What an amazing story and woman. Thank you to the interviewer too. He’s brilliant 🤩 ❤😊
Really enjoyed this as the interviewer gave her the space and dignity to tell her story. I was heavily involved in the drug and crime world for too long from 15 and it is beyond words how you live.
Having done a little research, Natalie was apparently jailed again for almost seven years for dealing drugs in the UK in 2010. I found it very interesting that this wasn't covered in this interview, presuming it was carried out fairly recently.
@ajcc7171 Im the same as you but not everyone is like that. Just because we weren’t affected some way doesn’t mean it’ll be the same for others. Everyone’s situation is different so you have no place to judge.
I am pretty shocked that she was able to write this book and peddle it. I understood that they were regulations preventing making profit from the commission of crime. Clearly the stupid girl didn’t learn anything. Some people just can’t be helped.
People in the comment section, you shouldn't be so judgemental and cold towards her. She was brave for sharing her story and being honest about her past struggles. ANYONE can struggle with addiction, it's pure hell on earth. Whenever someone is in active addiction, you're incapable of making rational decisions, which is why so many make poor choices and end up in bad situations. Addiction is a disease of the brain....go educate yourself on it before saying hateful things. She is human and made horrible mistakes, as we ALL do. The importance of this whole situation, is that she LEARNED from her mistakes, shr is clean now and although she cannot make up for lost time, she's trying now to be the best mother she can be. We live and learn...and as long as we don't keep repeating bad decisions, we learn from it, we change, we keep on going and we dont give up on ourselves or settle for less than we deserve....that means growth. Thats what life is all about: learning, growing and trying to be the best versions of ourselves that we can be. I am 6 years clean from being an IV heroin and meth addict. I didn't have children at the time but I found my rock bottom, sitting in the devils playground as I lost EVERYTHING....even almost lost my life. So i relate to her on an addict level and I thank her for sharing her story and the realities of drug addiction, what it can cause and where it can lead you. I think she is truly a STRONG and COURAGEOUS person for getting through all of that because most people wouldn't have. They would've given up and she didn't. ....so if she reads this, ignore the ignorant comments and know you've impacted people by sharing this. I hope things continue to improve for you, and i wish you the best ❤ ❤ ❤ hugs from America [Kentucky] -♡- Ashley
Yeah...as noted by another poster, this lady was actually arrested for selling drugs in the UK in 2010 and was sentenced to 7 years in prison. I can totally tell from this discussion that she doesn't regret what she did to go to jail in Venezuela . She is incredulous that she was sent to jail, she thinks she did nt deserve it, she escapes without serving her sentence....using tricky and underhand methods. She glosses over the pain she caused her kid and other family members who probably sent her money to escape and pay her life in jail. ....She led an irresponsible anti social life her whole life. She doesn't take responsibility. People like this aren't heroes or "brave". They are dangerous . Good I tried tho. And yes, we SHOULD pass judgement on people who lack moral backbone...I prefer to live in a society where people know right from wrong
I agree. She's been given a platform as a hero, as a brave victim. When in fact she's just a common criminal who put her own daughter in danger over and over again.
@@flowerpower8722None of what you said in any way justifies traumatizing an innocent child. A difficult, neglectful, and/or abusive childhood cannot render someone so totally selfish and uncaring of the fate of the life created by you. How do I know? All the childhood challenges you describe apply to me as well. I've been for clean over 7 years, however I've NEVER subjected my daughter to the level of harm this "mother" has, and I still feel remorseful for not being the Mom she deserves whilst in active addiction. This woman is a crackhead through and through. Her inability to accept any culpability for her actions and the degree to which she fails to accept the consequences, coupled with her continuous self-serving attempts at bending reality are super gross. I hope her daughter found love, laughter, and happiness! She damn sure wasn't going to find that shackled to this woman's stem!
Had her mother didn't stick to her abusive stepfather, would her life been totally different? One cannot assume remorse from a drug user and trafficker most the time. It's unrealistic to expect it. The most victim is her daughter. The life carries on as such so that this kind of crime causes generational trauma. Never ends.
Wow.. Kudos to Ben as that was the best interview I've had the privilege to watch. Natalie is a legend, she has my utmost respect for everything she has been through and endured. She must have the biggest set of cajones gifted to mankind and I hope she has happiness in abundance for the rest of her life, if anyone deserves it, it's Natalie.
Wow such an interesting story. I did feel the guest was slightly entitled as she kept saying “I didn’t expect this as I’m British”. Other countries don’t care who you are or where you’re from - do the crime, do the time !!!
What she meant is “I expected to be exempt from the law because I’m white”. “British” is almost like a code word here. Her naivety is not all her fault though. Society is structured unequally that way in the UK & the US, so you become accustomed to it no matter who you are. You absorb the culture you grow up in.
Extraordinary Lives is such a fantastic series, honestly the best thing that happened to this channel, and I'm so glad you guys made a longer form interview of Natalie.
What an extraordinary story, thanj you so much for sharing that with us Natalie. I trully wish you all the very best, May your best life be ahead of you. PS: Thats a guy that really knows how to listen and ask questions at the appropriate time throughout the interview. Well done mate!
Deadly Serious: Natalie's story should be made into a film. I was absolutely captivated. She is a shining beacon of light, and testament to the fact that no matter what happens, the wrong choices you make along the way, or decisions that you make, keep on going because if you have goodness in your heart and the best of intentions, you WILL get there in the end. Thank you for telling your story 🙏❤
She came back to Britain, did well for a while then found herself struggling so decided to deal cocaine. Got caught twice and was banged up for another 7 years. Not the exemplar you imagine.
She might be a good storyteller, however, I wouldn’t exactly call someone who takes her child on a drug smuggling trip with her respectable. She might have been young and stupid, still old enough to know better to consider her daughter.
Natalie is a very intelligent and erudite woman with an extensive vocabulary,. She obviously is very strong-minded and a survivor. What a story, what a life, not all good, not all bad, and it showcases the indomitable spirit that resides in her. As a male who spent a very short time in prison, I don't know if I could have survived her trials and tribulations. Now, who said that women are weak?!
Amen. I always love these interviews as I feel they really showcase how incredibly strong and capable people from even the most awful circumstances can be ❤ Without putting others down . Truly incredible
Intelligent and erudite? Are you serious? I see that you want to say something nice, but her story is filled with stupidity and stupid mistakes. I am not calling her stupid, probably naïve at the time, however she's far from being intelligent and on a cosmic distance from what an erudite means. Edit: just saw in the comments that in 2010 she was jailed again for 7 years in the UK. Intelligent you're saying? Right.
Proud? So proud she got caught again in 2010 and 2018. She’s vile and I am surprised she is even considered for interviewing. She glamorizes this cold trade.
Would have been a much better story had she actually learned from her ordeal and not carried on in the same vein in the UK, in and out of court and sentenced to 6 years and 9 months in Gloucester
Be proud, you were let down by the care system, and you have survived and are now stronger, yes you went through several huricanes but you are incredibile.
A suitcase with a concealed compartment that takes up approx 2/3 of the cases capacity,reeking of glue,what could possibly go wrong?,and,to put your daughter in a situation like that is just mind boggling.
39:05 I'm so glad this woman took a beat to articulate this in the way she did. Reasonably it's implied to most audiences, but still...standing firm and saying this is just as important as anything else and applicable to all humans who make all types of mistakes.
Thanks for sharing this fantastic story, i really hope she got back with Jose again, she is such a lovely woman, so easy to understand the way she tells the story 😊😊😊
Lovely enough to get caught again and banged up for 6 more years in 2010, and get caught driving under the influence of drugs in 2018. Her wings dropped off a long time ago. She is a criminal and an opportunist.
@@305judithaddiction is a life long struggle. I think she spoke very articulately and honestly, not sorry for herself, she’s made some big mistakes but I only hope the rest of her life treats her well.
She had done a crime. Now imagine our college students that were imprisoned for just protesting for our freedom and were treated like animals. Also this was 20 years ago, you can only imagine what it's like today.
In 2014 and 2017 we protested for months straight against the dictatorship we're in, the leaders were the students and many were imprisoned and tortured. Yes, 20 years ago was bad but it was just the beginning
Tough ,our decisions in life can affect all our life ..I think if they make a film it should be of her amazing friend ...and a few flash backs of Natalie ....so sad when we have a tough start to life ..my heart goes out to all of them .
No. The Proceeds of Crime Act does not allow that and this stupid woman was caught twice more, as recently as 2018. Save your crocodile tears for those kids whose lives are ruined by people like this who only think of their own bank balance. Shame they don’t have the same punishment Indonesia used on two of the Bali Nine.
You don’t need to „chastise yourself for the rest of your life“ If you‘re truly remorseful for what you did to poison other people including your daughter then just *STOP*
@@TheNwahDango Come on admit the truth. She is being horribly arrogant here. I never committed any such crimes but I would never make any arrogant statement like hers. I am such a great parent. Come on.
I lived on the island for nearly 7 years, from 2005 until 2011, after having spent holidays there 3 times, like so many of the (often European) expats from many different countries, who lived there. It was extremely popular in those years and quite payable, being the 'Ibiza from South America' I would say. Party island with beautiful beaches, beautiful weather, great music and vibe, but also with beautiful nature and even nice shops, for those who liked that. I heard of many 'tourists' being sent to San Antonio, which was located close to the Airport. Nearly every couple of months, some people tried to fly off with a suitcase with some extra kilo's. They almost always got caught and the news would spread very fast on the island. Especially if you socialized with the locals, as I did and since I worked on the beach, speaking quite good Spanish. These mules often stayed in the very same modest hotel, Golden Paradise, where I stayed when on holiday and before moving to the island. Often people from The Netherlands, where I'm from. Never understood how people would take that risk, since I had experienced the check ups on the airport during my holidays. Each suitcase would be searched by hand and it took hours, being in this huge departure hall, looking like an empty gym, with long rows of tables, on which each suitcase was checked. Even books would be leafed through. The Guardia Nacional with machine guns and dogs, was rude and intimidating. Not a smile ever to be seen. I was always relieved to be on the plane, even without doing anything wrong. However, after moving there, I took plenty of risk myself and especially in the first years was rather naive. Often being in the wrong neighborhoods or hanging out with the wrong people. I was in a very violent relationship with a guy from the island (Bocas del Rio, the peninsula of the island), for about 2-3 years with interruptions and the guy (very traumatized in his youth) did all drugs you can image in combination with lots of booze. He used to beat me, put knives on my throat, destroying the doors, windows and furniture, my personal stuff etc. of the places where we used to live together (and I was paying for). Police would lock him up for a night and then release him again. When he smashed another guy in the face with a broken bottle (he was in fights all the time) , he was locked up in Porlamar for a month at PTJ (a departure of police back then for severe cases) and was ransomed by an uncle who had money (same captain of a ship) and then later got arrested again for beating me up yet another time. He went to court and was (during the hearing!!!) ransomed by the same uncle, with hushmoney given to the judge. (he was supposed to go to San Antonio for 8 years for the law of mistreating women). Corruption was so normal there! Moved 22 times in that time, on the island. Crazy years. I sometimes am surprised how I made it out alive. Finally my crazy ex left the island and I was 'free'. Four people I knew personally and very well, got killed there, including my best friends (a Belgium couple) who got killed in their own posada, called Villa Serena which means serene village ironically, located in El Tirano, which was the very first place I lived, directly after moving there! My friends got slaughtered by a group of juvenile delinquints from the island with knives (taped and throats cut and stabbed in the backs!!!) for the amount of about 50 euro each!!! It was about a month after I left and had moved to Colombia. I myself was robed four times on Margarita, from which two times, that my place was robed in brought daytime (guard of the complex being payed off!!!) and luckily I was working, one time on the beach with a befriended tourist from Eastern Europe and one time on the street, very violently at 7.15pm in the evening!!! It turned out to be the same gang who murdered a German, called Rainer, in Playa el Agua two weeks later and who had lived there for over 20 years, running a tavern and I had knows quite well. It was near his place on the same road, where I had got robed by this same gang also in Aricagua. Half of 2011 I had had enought of all the violence, I was looking over my shoulder all the time by then, being traumatized of all that had happened and I got on a plane with my dog, a stray from the beach of Playa el Agua, where I used to do massages, to move to Colombia, where I actually lived and worked very peacefully in a small fisher village, without anything ever happening to me, for about 1,5 year (and later Panama/Costa Rica and Spain for another 7-8 years) to never return again to the island or Venezuela. Also, many of the European expats were not to be trusted on that island and often f...ed over ignorant newcomers, including me. Many lived there to escape prisontime in their own country or were running for tax issues etc. Me, I was just a young woman, who loved the island, the Latin vibe and music and apparently had a good team of guardian angels watching over me! Lol I am very glad Natalie made it out alive and was able to work through her trauma! Many did not make it. Beautiful and crazy country. It was Hugo Chavez and later Nicolas Maduro, who made the country to be one criminal gang. Such a shame that a country that at one time was prosperous, being about the richest of South America, turned to this level! All because of a gang of greedy politicians, who ruined this country from the end of the 90th. :(
One of, if not the worst part of this story? So many years later, she reframes the abuse suffered at the hands of the predator at the children’s home 😞😞😞
When was this recorded? Did she not hit rock bottom again and go back to prison for drug dealing in the uk in 2010. This wasn’t talked about was it! misleading by ladbible!
@aldabat3903weird logic really? Agree relapse in drug addiction is sadly very common and a result of trauma and suffering. So not honing in on the negative, far from it as lanedropify clearly states ‘she says she turned her life around as a result of that experience. Which if recorded recently is untrue. Now imagine if you listened to this and you were struggling with a drug addiction - how would you feel? It’s not that easy is it? Back to my point very misleading hence my question.
@aldabat3903 I hope that you can see that my comment was not meant to hone in on relapse but rather highlight or ask when this was recorded. to post this as new content is misleading and could have a negative impact on someone who is struggling with relapse. It’s misleading as in the experience was many years ago and we are now in 2023 so one would surmise no relapse, giving the impression that after a horrific experience one can end the/any addiction.
Yes I get that and I so hope she has. Good for you it’s an ongoing journey and life can be and is cruel. as for your friends it’s at the hardest times that we really get to know people and those people are no friends but we only see it when we need them making it 100 percent harder. Thank you for the discussion and respect. I wish you 😊
Drug addicts sure know how to put a special spin on their story. I feel sorry for her child! I’ve personally heard drug dealers tell their story & it’s like they’re telling a story of fame. The drugs that they sell kill people & destroy their lives & they break the hearts of their families. I hear arrogance, not remorse!
If you can throw around terms like 'vile' at this lady, I can only assume you are also the victim of childhood sexual abuse, in which case I'm deeply sorry
She talked for a while and yet did not take few minutes to acknowledge the wrongdoing. As if smuggling drugs (a source of sorrow, devastation, violence and death) is not as big of a deal. That's why people get prison sentence for doing it, because it is wrong to say the least.
She did say she was selfish to be doing it as she knew what it was like to be a drug user and was selfish to not think of others etc..she basically admits all she thought about was herself and drugs at that time
Its so easy to sit back in judgement isn't it of a young extremely vulnerable woman let down by the care system.Wonder how your life would look if we all sat here listening to mistakes you made in your life and whether it would look perfect and without doing some stupid things you'd be ashamed of if anyone knew. She sits here openly sharing her story and you sit here judging..shame on you
So you support people making money off the proceeds of crime? When she was caught again in 2010 she showed she had not learned a single lesson. It has always been getting away with it...escaping justice. Nobody spares a thought for the victims traffickers like her are responsible for creating.
You can’t be serious. What is so amazing about being an addict, selling drugs and going to jail ? This is the same story that many people have. She didn’t even serve her full sentence.
You're amazing Krystal!! I love the way you shamelessly punted recovery !!Totally agree everybody should do a round of the 12 steps...it's great therapy...and costs a lot less 😂.
I promise her: her social worker absolutely recognized that she was a messed up kid and he was taking advantage of her. I know she won't call him a predator, but the rest of us will.
Unless you have been adicted to drugs or had a bad childhood you cant judge this woman, shes a survivor and am sure she will learn something and will help children from doing the same thing
Mate you were a sacrificial lamb are as most but it was what you needed, clearly, sometimes we need to cut a little bit off of ourselves in order to grow and growth is everything is all that matters and your proof of that
I feel like she couldn't process it because she felt like it wasn't supposed to happen. She could tell all along that something was wrong and she just refused to listen to it. I think what she wanted was to just listen to herself so she could correct it, act out on her instinct and prevent it from happening, and that's why she didn't process it for until a whole year after.
There’s a such thing as Cause & Effect… but not a such thing for not being accountable or having consequences from making a bad choice! The age of accountability is pretty darn young!
Maybe if she wouldn't blame others for her f...k-ups and wouldn't expect others to do everything for her then she would have been in a way better place...
9:50 were was your child then? I'm sorry I grew up in children's homes. My mum beat me every night she was pissed up. Threw me out in the night after beating me up. I choose to go into care... I'm a male.. I have 2 kids my first at 17. And I love them so much!! My 2 sons are my best mates. I'm a good dad. They want for nothing. But they are grounded. This lady just gave up. Bless her
I think the people pitying this woman should take a look at the interview on this channel with the young woman who also suffered terrible abuse commencing with FGM . That might put things into perceptive a little better .
There is just something I love about this woman.. I'm not quite sure what it is but I really think she is very interesting and there is something unique about her. Also her lips and attitude is nice. ❤ I am fascinated. Again though - her lips look really nice ❤
wow is that your real Sir name.Ha Imagine,would you make me the happiest man on Earth and become Mrs. Feely.Or this is your new P.E. instructor Mr.Feely
Excellent interviewer, asks the right questions and doesn’t interrupt. I’m here for it
Agreed!
This man is a brilliant interviewer. I've thought this for a while.
Simon Jordan take note on how to listen
Congratulations
"do you see it as a relationship or do you see him as a predator?"
Drink every time he says 'wow' or 'oh god'
He allows the interviewee to talk. We hardly hear him talk which is BRILLIANT!
I hope that predator of a social worker didn't just lose his job but faced criminal charges too. An adult man starting a relationship with a child, especially a social worker who is charged with looking after the most vulnerable, is criminal. And it's also a gross abuse of power. It makes me sad that she talks about what was clearly a predatory relationship as if it was her fault, or somehow mutual. When kids are let down or taken advantage of by the adults who were trusted to look after them, it's not hard to see how they end up on a bad road. I really hope that man went to prison and never worked with children again.
so sad and bit shocking she still doesn't 100% realise or accept she was the victim of a peado :(
Probably ended up in the House of Lords tbh
@@phunkyhouseit's so hard to understand that as an adult now. You don't like to think you're a victim.
@@phunkyhouse actually studies have revealed that men of all ages are most attracted to 15.5 year old females (in the absence of external decorations like makeup which is used more by 18+ females)
@@SidSahu-j5jutter poppycock😂😂.
This is such a good example of breaking down how trauma and abuse at a young age just keeps affecting the victim through their whole lives.
That's no excuse.
And all the people they victimize?
@nfh688jfnie huh? I'm saying that this person is an example of how being victimized and traumatized as a young person, how those actions played into her life and her choices throughout.
@HughObrien-mq8py excuse for what? Did I excuse her crimes?
@@HughObrien-mq8pyI don’t think it’s an excuse but a real fact.
When she said about not being emotionless and explained it all the compassion I felt for her was overwhelming!! So correct!! She or others have to move on and forgive themselves. Her words helped me so much. What an amazing story and woman. Thank you to the interviewer too. He’s brilliant 🤩 ❤😊
Really enjoyed this as the interviewer gave her the space and dignity to tell her story. I was heavily involved in the drug and crime world for too long from 15 and it is beyond words how you live.
Having done a little research, Natalie was apparently jailed again for almost seven years for dealing drugs in the UK in 2010. I found it very interesting that this wasn't covered in this interview, presuming it was carried out fairly recently.
Can't say I'm shocked to hear that. Thanks for doing the research the channel didn't.
@ajcc7171 Im the same as you but not everyone is like that. Just because we weren’t affected some way doesn’t mean it’ll be the same for others. Everyone’s situation is different so you have no place to judge.
She was also arrested in 2018 for drug related crime. Disappointing.
I am pretty shocked that she was able to write this book and peddle it. I understood that they were regulations preventing making profit from the commission of crime. Clearly the stupid girl didn’t learn anything. Some people just can’t be helped.
@@ChemiiOneLegacy DUI of drugs. This interview is nothing but self glorification.
Wow. This story should be made into a film or short Netflix series. Amazing
It was on banged up abroad
Why??? She put her daughter in danger, why is she being hailed as a hero? She's a drug mule, over and over again.
People in the comment section, you shouldn't be so judgemental and cold towards her. She was brave for sharing her story and being honest about her past struggles. ANYONE can struggle with addiction, it's pure hell on earth. Whenever someone is in active addiction, you're incapable of making rational decisions, which is why so many make poor choices and end up in bad situations. Addiction is a disease of the brain....go educate yourself on it before saying hateful things. She is human and made horrible mistakes, as we ALL do. The importance of this whole situation, is that she LEARNED from her mistakes, shr is clean now and although she cannot make up for lost time, she's trying now to be the best mother she can be. We live and learn...and as long as we don't keep repeating bad decisions, we learn from it, we change, we keep on going and we dont give up on ourselves or settle for less than we deserve....that means growth. Thats what life is all about: learning, growing and trying to be the best versions of ourselves that we can be. I am 6 years clean from being an IV heroin and meth addict. I didn't have children at the time but I found my rock bottom, sitting in the devils playground as I lost EVERYTHING....even almost lost my life. So i relate to her on an addict level and I thank her for sharing her story and the realities of drug addiction, what it can cause and where it can lead you. I think she is truly a STRONG and COURAGEOUS person for getting through all of that because most people wouldn't have. They would've given up and she didn't. ....so if she reads this, ignore the ignorant comments and know you've impacted people by sharing this. I hope things continue to improve for you, and i wish you the best ❤ ❤ ❤ hugs from America [Kentucky] -♡- Ashley
@ashleythealien -- thank you. Well said. You get it. Thank you.
@@4thamendment237 ♥︎
Well said. ❤
Exactly I was a addict u can move on with your life don't judge anyway I was the 1st to judge drug an alcoholics until I got in grip myself
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Yeah...as noted by another poster, this lady was actually arrested for selling drugs in the UK in 2010 and was sentenced to 7 years in prison. I can totally tell from this discussion that she doesn't regret what she did to go to jail in Venezuela . She is incredulous that she was sent to jail, she thinks she did nt deserve it, she escapes without serving her sentence....using tricky and underhand methods. She glosses over the pain she caused her kid and other family members who probably sent her money to escape and pay her life in jail. ....She led an irresponsible anti social life her whole life. She doesn't take responsibility. People like this aren't heroes or "brave". They are dangerous . Good I tried tho. And yes, we SHOULD pass judgement on people who lack moral backbone...I prefer to live in a society where people know right from wrong
Typo....good interview tho
I agree. She's been given a platform as a hero, as a brave victim. When in fact she's just a common criminal who put her own daughter in danger over and over again.
@@flowerpower87221,000% agree! This is such a great explanation.
@@flowerpower8722None of what you said in any way justifies traumatizing an innocent child. A difficult, neglectful, and/or abusive childhood cannot render someone so totally selfish and uncaring of the fate of the life created by you.
How do I know? All the childhood challenges you describe apply to me as well. I've been for clean over 7 years, however I've NEVER subjected my daughter to the level of harm this "mother" has, and I still feel remorseful for not being the Mom she deserves whilst in active addiction.
This woman is a crackhead through and through. Her inability to accept any culpability for her actions and the degree to which she fails to accept the consequences, coupled with her continuous self-serving attempts at bending reality are super gross.
I hope her daughter found love, laughter, and happiness! She damn sure wasn't going to find that shackled to this woman's stem!
Had her mother didn't stick to her abusive stepfather, would her life been totally different? One cannot assume remorse from a drug user and trafficker most the time. It's unrealistic to expect it. The most victim is her daughter. The life carries on as such so that this kind of crime causes generational trauma. Never ends.
When she talks about emptying her suitcase with her daughter must've been horrifying honestly
Amazing interview, amazing interviewer, thank you for sharing.
There is a mini doc about this prison on UA-cam. This woman is a true badass for living there for a year
I don't believe she had a lot of choice. What was she going to do? Tell the judge "I'm just off now. Bye."?
Man, the last minute of this video, just listening to her talk and give that message...it just brought me to tears...Thank you for sharing this story.
Wow.. Kudos to Ben as that was the best interview I've had the privilege to watch. Natalie is a legend, she has my utmost respect for everything she has been through and endured. She must have the biggest set of cajones gifted to mankind and I hope she has happiness in abundance for the rest of her life, if anyone deserves it, it's Natalie.
Wow such an interesting story. I did feel the guest was slightly entitled as she kept saying “I didn’t expect this as I’m British”. Other countries don’t care who you are or where you’re from - do the crime, do the time !!!
@@ac1646 The drugs talking...
What she meant is “I expected to be exempt from the law because I’m white”. “British” is almost like a code word here.
Her naivety is not all her fault though. Society is structured unequally that way in the UK & the US, so you become accustomed to it no matter who you are. You absorb the culture you grow up in.
LOL BE QUIET YOU VICTIM @@jordanwood183
Oh, so you read her mind and know she is some kind of priledged racist?! Fool. She says 'British' as she meant 'British'. @@jordanwood183
Give her a break ffs, where's your compassion?
She has an amazing spirit ❤. She truly has a story to tell.
Extraordinary Lives is such a fantastic series, honestly the best thing that happened to this channel, and I'm so glad you guys made a longer form interview of Natalie.
Thank you for handling this interview so sensitively.
What an extraordinary story, thanj you so much for sharing that with us Natalie. I trully wish you all the very best, May your best life be ahead of you.
PS: Thats a guy that really knows how to listen and ask questions at the appropriate time throughout the interview. Well done mate!
Deadly Serious: Natalie's story should be made into a film. I was absolutely captivated. She is a shining beacon of light, and testament to the fact that no matter what happens, the wrong choices you make along the way, or decisions that you make, keep on going because if you have goodness in your heart and the best of intentions, you WILL get there in the end.
Thank you for telling your story 🙏❤
She came back to Britain, did well for a while then found herself struggling so decided to deal cocaine. Got caught twice and was banged up for another 7 years.
Not the exemplar you imagine.
Thank you for sharing your story❤
superb honest interview , i wish you well in the future xx
Wow just amazing real story,no one is perfect in life ,so great respect for this lady ❤🎉🎉
She's a real one. Well articulated and interesting character.
Such a difficult story but told incredibly well. Huge respect and best wishes for the future Natalie!
She was jailed in the UK for dealing in cocaine for 7 years in 2010. So clearly she learned nothing.
She might be a good storyteller, however, I wouldn’t exactly call someone who takes her child on a drug smuggling trip with her respectable. She might have been young and stupid, still old enough to know better to consider her daughter.
Thanks for sharing your amazing story.
Natalie is a very intelligent and erudite woman with an extensive vocabulary,. She obviously is very strong-minded and a survivor. What a story, what a life, not all good, not all bad, and it showcases the indomitable spirit that resides in her. As a male who spent a very short time in prison, I don't know if I could have survived her trials and tribulations. Now, who said that women are weak?!
Amen. I always love these interviews as I feel they really showcase how incredibly strong and capable people from even the most awful circumstances can be ❤ Without putting others down . Truly incredible
Intelligent and erudite? Are you serious? I see that you want to say something nice, but her story is filled with stupidity and stupid mistakes. I am not calling her stupid, probably naïve at the time, however she's far from being intelligent and on a cosmic distance from what an erudite means.
Edit: just saw in the comments that in 2010 she was jailed again for 7 years in the UK. Intelligent you're saying? Right.
She took her daughter on drug runs. How is that strong minded? Yet she plays the victim and gets recognition for her bravery?
She's been caught with coke in 2010, and 2018 😂 yeah she's a real hero, a real inspiration 😂😂😂 gtfoh
She’s a POS drug dealer who put her daughter around drugs. You have to have made this comment before learning all of the story
What an amazing story. This lady should be proud of her survival. Heartbreaking but uplifting at the same time
Yes be proud of doing drugs and abandoning your kid 😂
Proud? So proud she got caught again in 2010 and 2018. She’s vile and I am surprised she is even considered for interviewing. She glamorizes this cold trade.
Bullshit.
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She should get a pride of Britain award for sure.
This was a brilliant interview a brilliant story. She was engaging. This could be a gripping film!.
Yes, but it is a real life film ...imaging a prison where the prisoners have gun wars ...only in South America.
TY ...enjoyed this amazing story so much!
Would have been a much better story had she actually learned from her ordeal and not carried on in the same vein in the UK, in and out of court and sentenced to 6 years and 9 months in Gloucester
Ooh I’ve read your book - I recognised it from the intro alone !!! So happy for you to be out ❤
Be proud, you were let down by the care system, and you have survived and are now stronger, yes you went through several huricanes but you are incredibile.
A suitcase with a concealed compartment that takes up approx 2/3 of the cases capacity,reeking of glue,what could possibly go wrong?,and,to put your daughter in a situation like that is just mind boggling.
she was abused and a victim of a bad childhood
@@jassminejames210stop giving her a reason for her bad behavior, her lifestyle seriously killed many ppl
She didn’t want to get a steady job, this was quick money she thought.
@@katesleuth1156 lazy and stupid
I agree 💯 insane behaviour
39:05 I'm so glad this woman took a beat to articulate this in the way she did. Reasonably it's implied to most audiences, but still...standing firm and saying this is just as important as anything else and applicable to all humans who make all types of mistakes.
Thanks for sharing this fantastic story, i really hope she got back with Jose again, she is such a lovely woman, so easy to understand the way she tells the story 😊😊😊
Lovely enough to get caught again and banged up for 6 more years in 2010, and get caught driving under the influence of drugs in 2018. Her wings dropped off a long time ago. She is a criminal and an opportunist.
@@305judithaddiction is a life long struggle. I think she spoke very articulately and honestly, not sorry for herself, she’s made some big mistakes but I only hope the rest of her life treats her well.
Wow what a story! Thank you for sharing xx
No remorse, still scamming and being shady even in prison,then she escapes from prison… you were a drug smuggler..own it!
Amazing story. A lot of trauma. I'm glad her and her daughter are happy
We need to listen to more people like her and her stories. Not all the propaganda and stop supporting the populous.
Thank you for sharing your journey and the wonderful people you met on the way ,,
I wish you all the best with your new lease of life Natalie, and thank you for your message at the end.
She had done a crime. Now imagine our college students that were imprisoned for just protesting for our freedom and were treated like animals. Also this was 20 years ago, you can only imagine what it's like today.
What are you on about
What freedom??
In 2014 and 2017 we protested for months straight against the dictatorship we're in, the leaders were the students and many were imprisoned and tortured. Yes, 20 years ago was bad but it was just the beginning
@@luciagonzalo6762 Thats horrible, sorry to hear that.
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I feel tense listening to her story I can’t imagine what she was feeling
So well spoken, great interview too.
Amazing, very moving story. Bright future ahead I hope will continue 🙏. Relationship with your daughter hopefully fully functional. All forgiving x
Tough ,our decisions in life can affect all our life ..I think if they make a film it should be of her amazing friend ...and a few flash backs of Natalie ....so sad when we have a tough start to life ..my heart goes out to all of them .
No. The Proceeds of Crime Act does not allow that and this stupid woman was caught twice more, as recently as 2018. Save your crocodile tears for those kids whose lives are ruined by people like this who only think of their own bank balance. Shame they don’t have the same punishment Indonesia used on two of the Bali Nine.
This is a great story.
Natalie really is a survivor - always wondered what had happened to Will Young - great interviewer
Its not will young but he does,look like him😅
The Ginger look does Will No favours.
Wat an interview.. I really enjoyed every detail of the talk 🙏
Her message is so true. One day it makes sense.
Every therapist needs to see this!
Shaun Attwood doed an excelland intervie with her as well. Shaun helped her publish her book.
You don’t need to
„chastise yourself for the rest of your life“
If you‘re truly remorseful for what you did to poison other people including your daughter then just *STOP*
I could never put my daughter in such a dangerous situation..
Arent you wonderful. Kudos to you. You are such a great person. Well done. You are morally superior to everyone.
@@1Jason thanks Jason at least someone recognizes it
@@jcdog1000 It must be great knowing how superior you are to others. Thanks for letting us know too. Again, you seem like a truly amazing person.
@@1Jason Well somebody's got some insecurities
@@TheNwahDango Come on admit the truth. She is being horribly arrogant here. I never committed any such crimes but I would never make any arrogant statement like hers. I am such a great parent. Come on.
Phenomenal that she is telling her story, truly profound !!
Profound? 🤔
Truly Criminal.
The social worker is 100% a predator.
I lived on the island for nearly 7 years, from 2005 until 2011, after having spent holidays there 3 times, like so many of the (often European) expats from many different countries, who lived there. It was extremely popular in those years and quite payable, being the 'Ibiza from South America' I would say.
Party island with beautiful beaches, beautiful weather, great music and vibe, but also with beautiful nature and even nice shops, for those who liked that.
I heard of many 'tourists' being sent to San Antonio, which was located close to the Airport. Nearly every couple of months, some people tried to fly off with a suitcase with some extra kilo's. They almost always got caught and the news would spread very fast on the island. Especially if you socialized with the locals, as I did and since I worked on the beach, speaking quite good Spanish. These mules often stayed in the very same modest hotel, Golden Paradise, where I stayed when on holiday and before moving to the island. Often people from The Netherlands, where I'm from. Never understood how people would take that risk, since I had experienced the check ups on the airport during my holidays. Each suitcase would be searched by hand and it took hours, being in this huge departure hall, looking like an empty gym, with long rows of tables, on which each suitcase was checked. Even books would be leafed through. The Guardia Nacional with machine guns and dogs, was rude and intimidating. Not a smile ever to be seen. I was always relieved to be on the plane, even without doing anything wrong.
However, after moving there, I took plenty of risk myself and especially in the first years was rather naive. Often being in the wrong neighborhoods or hanging out with the wrong people. I was in a very violent relationship with a guy from the island (Bocas del Rio, the peninsula of the island), for about 2-3 years with interruptions and the guy (very traumatized in his youth) did all drugs you can image in combination with lots of booze. He used to beat me, put knives on my throat, destroying the doors, windows and furniture, my personal stuff etc. of the places where we used to live together (and I was paying for). Police would lock him up for a night and then release him again. When he smashed another guy in the face with a broken bottle (he was in fights all the time) , he was locked up in Porlamar for a month at PTJ (a departure of police back then for severe cases) and was ransomed by an uncle who had money (same captain of a ship) and then later got arrested again for beating me up yet another time. He went to court and was (during the hearing!!!) ransomed by the same uncle, with hushmoney given to the judge. (he was supposed to go to San Antonio for 8 years for the law of mistreating women). Corruption was so normal there! Moved 22 times in that time, on the island. Crazy years. I sometimes am surprised how I made it out alive. Finally my crazy ex left the island and I was 'free'. Four people I knew personally and very well, got killed there, including my best friends (a Belgium couple) who got killed in their own posada, called Villa Serena which means serene village ironically, located in El Tirano, which was the very first place I lived, directly after moving there! My friends got slaughtered by a group of juvenile delinquints from the island with knives (taped and throats cut and stabbed in the backs!!!) for the amount of about 50 euro each!!! It was about a month after I left and had moved to Colombia. I myself was robed four times on Margarita, from which two times, that my place was robed in brought daytime (guard of the complex being payed off!!!) and luckily I was working, one time on the beach with a befriended tourist from Eastern Europe and one time on the street, very violently at 7.15pm in the evening!!!
It turned out to be the same gang who murdered a German, called Rainer, in Playa el Agua two weeks later and who had lived there for over 20 years, running a tavern and I had knows quite well. It was near his place on the same road, where I had got robed by this same gang also in Aricagua. Half of 2011 I had had enought of all the violence, I was looking over my shoulder all the time by then, being traumatized of all that had happened and I got on a plane with my dog, a stray from the beach of Playa el Agua, where I used to do massages, to move to Colombia, where I actually lived and worked very peacefully in a small fisher village, without anything ever happening to me, for about 1,5 year (and later Panama/Costa Rica and Spain for another 7-8 years) to never return again to the island or Venezuela.
Also, many of the European expats were not to be trusted on that island and often f...ed over ignorant newcomers, including me. Many lived there to escape prisontime in their own country or were running for tax issues etc.
Me, I was just a young woman, who loved the island, the Latin vibe and music and apparently had a good team of guardian angels watching over me! Lol
I am very glad Natalie made it out alive and was able to work through her trauma! Many did not make it. Beautiful and crazy country. It was Hugo Chavez and later Nicolas Maduro, who made the country to be one criminal gang. Such a shame that a country that at one time was prosperous, being about the richest of South America, turned to this level! All because of a gang of greedy politicians, who ruined this country from the end of the 90th. :(
Omg!!! I think I'm in love with this woman. This is one of the most amazing stories I have ever heard. You're so strong and so brilliant.
Incredible story 😅 hats off 😊
Need a part 2
Bus driver is a hero saved her big time 🎉
One of, if not the worst part of this story? So many years later, she reframes the abuse suffered at the hands of the predator at the children’s home 😞😞😞
When was this recorded? Did she not hit rock bottom again and go back to prison for drug dealing in the uk in 2010. This wasn’t talked about was it! misleading by ladbible!
@aldabat3903weird logic really? Agree relapse in drug addiction is sadly very common and a result of trauma and suffering. So not honing in on the negative, far from it as lanedropify clearly states ‘she says she turned her life around as a result of that experience. Which if recorded recently is untrue. Now imagine if you listened to this and you were struggling with a drug addiction - how would you feel? It’s not that easy is it? Back to my point very misleading hence my question.
@aldabat3903 I hope that you can see that my comment was not meant to hone in on relapse but rather highlight or ask when this was recorded. to post this as new content is misleading and could have a negative impact on someone who is struggling with relapse. It’s misleading as in the experience was many years ago and we are now in 2023 so one would surmise no relapse, giving the impression that after a horrific experience one can end the/any addiction.
Yes I get that and I so hope she has. Good for you it’s an ongoing journey and life can be and is cruel. as for your friends it’s at the hardest times that we really get to know people and those people are no friends but we only see it when we need them making it 100 percent harder. Thank you for the discussion and respect. I wish you 😊
“Can’t really leave my daughter with someone I don’t know” proceeds to attempt to smuggle drugs with her. This woman is vile
Drug addicts sure know how to put a special spin on their story. I feel sorry for her child! I’ve personally heard drug dealers tell their story & it’s like they’re telling a story of fame. The drugs that they sell kill people & destroy their lives & they break the hearts of their families.
I hear arrogance, not remorse!
If you can throw around terms like 'vile' at this lady, I can only assume you are also the victim of childhood sexual abuse, in which case I'm deeply sorry
she was a kid obviously youvr never done drugs dont judge
she eas a kid she learned she hard way
@@marshareed1438 i understand having been n addict
Wow, what a story. Amazing.
Best Wishes for a Very Happy Life to You.. Your Earth Angel friend and your Daughter.
She talked for a while and yet did not take few minutes to acknowledge the wrongdoing. As if smuggling drugs (a source of sorrow, devastation, violence and death) is not as big of a deal. That's why people get prison sentence for doing it, because it is wrong to say the least.
She did say she was selfish to be doing it as she knew what it was like to be a drug user and was selfish to not think of others etc..she basically admits all she thought about was herself and drugs at that time
She still broke out of prison, so she is still a criminal
Its so easy to sit back in judgement isn't it of a young extremely vulnerable woman let down by the care system.Wonder how your life would look if we all sat here listening to mistakes you made in your life and whether it would look perfect and without doing some stupid things you'd be ashamed of if anyone knew.
She sits here openly sharing her story and you sit here judging..shame on you
What an amazing story, a film needs to be made!
So you support people making money off the proceeds of crime? When she was caught again in 2010 she showed she had not learned a single lesson. It has always been getting away with it...escaping justice. Nobody spares a thought for the victims traffickers like her are responsible for creating.
You can’t be serious. What is so amazing about being an addict, selling drugs and going to jail ? This is the same story that many people have. She didn’t even serve her full sentence.
You are an amazing woman. Thank you for sharing your story with humility, wit and honesty ❤️
😂 the bar for “amazing woman” must have been lowered recently!!
This is a story of triumph…I was rooting for her during this interview…
How I got addicted to crack and suffered for it:
No sympathy. You were smuggling Class A drugs, with your daughter in tow.
What did she expect???
Such a touching story ...
You're amazing Krystal!! I love the way you shamelessly punted recovery !!Totally agree everybody should do a round of the 12 steps...it's great therapy...and costs a lot less 😂.
I promise her: her social worker absolutely recognized that she was a messed up kid and he was taking advantage of her.
I know she won't call him a predator, but the rest of us will.
Unless you have been adicted to drugs or had a bad childhood you cant judge this woman, shes a survivor and am sure she will learn something and will help children from doing the same thing
Yes, we can judge her. How can you even say we can't?
Mate you were a sacrificial lamb are as most but it was what you needed, clearly, sometimes we need to cut a little bit off of ourselves in order to grow and growth is everything is all that matters and your proof of that
She could do a few episodes it's that interesting.
Fascinating!
God bless this lady❤
amazing msg to come from her adversity!
What a scary situation for anyone
I feel like she couldn't process it because she felt like it wasn't supposed to happen. She could tell all along that something was wrong and she just refused to listen to it. I think what she wanted was to just listen to herself so she could correct it, act out on her instinct and prevent it from happening, and that's why she didn't process it for until a whole year after.
There’s a such thing as Cause & Effect… but not a such thing for not being accountable or having consequences from making a bad choice! The age of accountability is pretty darn young!
Listen,the lady opened up candidly about her wrong doings
Maybe if she wouldn't blame others for her f...k-ups and wouldn't expect others to do everything for her then she would have been in a way better place...
Seen her on shaun attwood podcast CRAZY PRISON STORIES!! Hopw shes found peace in boring UK 🇬🇧
Oh she did. She reoffended and got 6 years in 2010, and was caught driving under influence of drugs in 2018.
@@305judith didn't know that Judith!! Take care ok 👍
Prison in Venezuela is very similar to Argentina.. the fact that they eat "club social" too had me laughing to be honest
Amazing story
9:50 were was your child then? I'm sorry I grew up in children's homes. My mum beat me every night she was pissed up. Threw me out in the night after beating me up. I choose to go into care... I'm a male.. I have 2 kids my first at 17. And I love them so much!! My 2 sons are my best mates. I'm a good dad. They want for nothing. But they are grounded. This lady just gave up. Bless her
Do you want a medal?
Reminds me of the mel gibson movie "GRINGO". Way underrated, worth a watch, basically this story but a movie.
If you enjoyed this, you'd totally love Banged up abroad
She’s in one of them
@@Wavelover33 Woahh really, which season, I didn't see her episode
Most of them episodes are staged not saying it's not real life situations but alot of dramatic effects are added
@@danielcunningham6727 they do mention that, honestly it's fine, bells and whistles are needed
42:00 no it's poor her...
I think the people pitying this woman should take a look at the interview on this channel with the young woman who also suffered terrible abuse commencing with FGM .
That might put things into perceptive a little better .
Maybe you could compile a chart of greatest suffering? Maybe like Top Trumps cards, rated on 'most deserving', 'worst family' etc?
How many times do we need to hear stories of abuse, care and drugs?! The system has failed multiple people and continues to.
Fascinating story 👍
There is just something I love about this woman.. I'm not quite sure what it is but I really think she is very interesting and there is something unique about her. Also her lips and attitude is nice. ❤ I am fascinated. Again though - her lips look really nice ❤
I'm playing the world's tiniest violin
I wouldn’t believe the radio in this woman’s car
wow is that your real Sir name.Ha Imagine,would you make me the happiest man on Earth and become Mrs. Feely.Or this is your new P.E. instructor Mr.Feely