Shiyu Defense 10 Full S Rank Clear : Ellen & Nekomata Teams & Build in Zenless Zone Zero

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  • @johnmc9073
    @johnmc9073 Місяць тому +11

    What i like about this game is that it doesnt go hard into the discs/artifact, you can survive the combat by focusing on the main stat you want and have random substats but I also like that you can enjoy go all in into that systems in the future to get the substats you want, and be like any other tryhard gacha for min maxing, but i feel less stress that I have to farm non-stop cause it doesnt make me feel like my characters are super weak like in genshin impact, if you dont have the necessary substats, here i can focus on fun and just the main stat for now, later on higher levels i can go all into the discs farming

    • @fooo0p
      @fooo0p Місяць тому

      To be absolute fair, I think that what you said is literally the same for genshin (and most other gachs). Like, focus on the main stats because they are the brunt of the damage you will do once maxed out. Let's say it's a generous 70-80% of the way to minmaxed level of damage. Like what you said - main stats are good enough for now and it is absolutely true for genshin as well. Like literally the same actually
      But what i do like about this game though and in hsr is that the reroll mechanic for artifacts are already available at launch, making the early game farming much more forgiving.

    • @johnmc9073
      @johnmc9073 Місяць тому

      @@fooo0p i dont feel that way not really, which is the reason why i wrote what i wrote, in genshin you do need to focus on artifacts or your character will be craparoni
      sure you can use them that way but you wont feel powerful which is the point here, in ZZZ you feel powerful even if your characters arent fully built and all characters feel extremely good playing even with crap discs and wengine, in genshin it doesnt give you that feeling

    • @CrimsonMonarch
      @CrimsonMonarch 27 днів тому

      ​@@johnmc9073I don't feel that at all, instead it feels like gear is more strict here than HSR 😢

    • @johnmc9073
      @johnmc9073 26 днів тому

      @@CrimsonMonarch i dont see it

  • @alexbeliy5131
    @alexbeliy5131 Місяць тому +3

    C2 ellen which making charged attacks made me cry

  • @averagejohn2786
    @averagejohn2786 Місяць тому +19

    This Neko/Grace/Piper team feels nice to watch, crazy that the one I don't have out of the 3 is Piper lol.

    • @johnmc9073
      @johnmc9073 Місяць тому +1

      using nicole instead of Grace since i dont have her :/

    • @nik_senpai
      @nik_senpai Місяць тому

      I just prefer grace to be in her own electric team with Anton. Plus I didn't pair a 3rd member for Neko team on floor 7, just her and Nicole while Neko mostly on field

  • @dankwolf442
    @dankwolf442 Місяць тому +11

    Dang once Lucy goes into her spin the HP bar just melts. I might have to build her after watching this.

    • @andr0zzsenpai
      @andr0zzsenpai Місяць тому +9

      You mean Piper?

    • @nogame2630
      @nogame2630 Місяць тому

      @@andr0zzsenpai looks like he is trolling for Piper guide =)

    • @johnmc9073
      @johnmc9073 Місяць тому

      Lucy melts bars too but with her Ultimate, she definitely has a nuke

  • @Dzukari
    @Dzukari Місяць тому +2

    10:45 154071 Disorder DMG and 68757 Assult DMG is crazy. How can Disorder DMG get that high?

    • @5h0rdY
      @5h0rdY Місяць тому +1

      disorder takes the anomaly from grace, who has stacked anomaly proficiency and pops it... and the stage buff increases anomaly damage by 80%. I am more surprised, that its that low... my piper reached 280k assaults while attampting to s rank that stage with low investment

  • @justin.knight
    @justin.knight Місяць тому +4

    Piper is a complete beast!

  • @andrewcampbell9277
    @andrewcampbell9277 Місяць тому

    This has been kicking my ass, I got the second boss down to 1% hp and died with just Grace left, I feel awful

  • @josetomasrivera5782
    @josetomasrivera5782 Місяць тому +4

    Wow i was so lost watching this. This is how i should do rotations?? Im at proxy lvl 39 and now i feel like a noob the way im doing rotations. Do you have any videos explaining how to make proper rotations??

    • @Eltanin
      @Eltanin Місяць тому +4

      not necessarily. The player in the video also makes mistakes. Just play how you want while following the general rules of [stun character to daze enemies] -> [support character to buff] -> [main DPS to burst down the dazed enemy while buffed]. It's not a concrete rotation since you can mix stuff in as the situation changes but generally that's what works

  • @PastaLaFista
    @PastaLaFista Місяць тому +1

    Yo can we get a guide on how to properly play the Neko,Grace,Piper comp? As in when you want to switch and assist-cancels ? I couldn't find any useful guide on this team yet :) great video too btw.

  • @iiFxD
    @iiFxD Місяць тому +2

    your my best youtubers those days😊

  • @jxff2000
    @jxff2000 Місяць тому

    My current team is S11/Nicole/Piper and I love it. So fun to play

  • @CrimsonMonarch
    @CrimsonMonarch 27 днів тому

    Definitely skill issue for me cuz im at IK45 and still can't clear it. Imma just wait till I can get lvl60 to clear 😂

  • @Michael-vr9us
    @Michael-vr9us Місяць тому +18

    Is there a reason why not soukaku instead of nicole ?

    • @piggletimpact
      @piggletimpact Місяць тому +4

      Im interested to know this as well

    • @beriazim
      @beriazim Місяць тому +7

      Yes, pretty obvious one

    • @Maaduno
      @Maaduno Місяць тому +17

      Two reasons

    • @user-fu2du5gb2w
      @user-fu2du5gb2w Місяць тому

      Gather probably

    • @Me-pp9op
      @Me-pp9op Місяць тому +1

      because the boss is weak to ether and soukaku takes too long of a field time here and the boss just deals alot of dmg If youre not able to dodge fast enough

  • @zusako
    @zusako Місяць тому +1

    Neko, nicole, piper a good Team?

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 Місяць тому

    I like fast moving characters so I feel like I should get Nekomata. But I also have Koleda so soldier would make more sense. But I did level up my Nicole to 40 as well. So I'm stuck I na dilemma on what dps to get. I have 0 S rank dps and I have Lycoan Rina and. Koleda I use a lot.

    • @xaius4348
      @xaius4348 Місяць тому

      I personally run Neko + Piper + Nicole + Amillion (I don't necessarily know if Nicole is optimal, but she's arguably the best support)
      Nekomata is super fun! You can dodge enemies for days simply by controlling your basic attack dashes (hold attack to dash early) to get behind the enemy, avoiding their attack, OR using Ex special to dodge way more attacks than you'd think possible by simply jumping over them. If you want to stop yourself from switching back to the front of an enemy, I use dash attack to quickly cancel my current attack string and reset.
      If you do go for a physical team with Nekomata and Piper (these 2 work great together), you can run Lucy as support, and then easily transition into a fire team in the future by swapping out Nekomata for Koleda (making Piper into your main dps) and even potentially make another swap by changing Piper for Solider 11. Ta-da! Full fire team, 1 character at a time!
      Lycoan and Rina are really good though. Could throw in Corin as a budget Ellen to make a solid team. I have neither S personally though, so I haven't done as much research or testing on them. Rina can go into electric teams of course, but Lycoan seems kinda stuck with full ice, or with Corin as his dps.

  • @MrKalooey
    @MrKalooey Місяць тому

    What team do you recommend for me, I have Ellen and Koleda, I'm running Ellen Koleda Ben with rocket boo and Anton grace piper with safety, maybe I wanna do Billy instead of Anton, Ellen and Koleda are the only S ranks I have thank you

  • @andrinaleong4079
    @andrinaleong4079 Місяць тому

    Grace is my only S rank character.

  • @BeCertified69
    @BeCertified69 Місяць тому

    question u barely use nekomata or what her name is can u not just run grace main dps piper and lucy?

  • @tyg-zw7nn
    @tyg-zw7nn Місяць тому

    has anyone cleared shiyu 17?

  • @squabble3332
    @squabble3332 Місяць тому

    why grace ? what her main goal in team ? have her but im dissapointed about using in teams ((

    • @xaius4348
      @xaius4348 Місяць тому

      Grace and Piper are pretty crazy in terms of disorder damage (triggering shock and then assault shortly after for huge damage). Seeing a team without full team passives unlocked is a little weird, but Grace's mostly benefits pure electric teams, so its not super necessary, nor is it possible in an anomaly disorder team currently (unless you forego Piper's instead).
      Nekomata, of course, benefits alongside Piper so that they activate each other's passives, and Nekomata's kit synergizes with assault.

    • @dogthemage
      @dogthemage Місяць тому +1

      At 10:44 you can see why Grace is on the team. When you activate DISORDER (two different elements activating anomaly) and simply explode damage of more than 150k on the screen

    • @squabble3332
      @squabble3332 Місяць тому

      Yesterday Im used with Lucy piper and neko, I have a message like assault but with damage 3 times bigger, what is it :D

    • @squabble3332
      @squabble3332 Місяць тому

      ​@@dogthemagegm, u told about disorder, I see , thx

  • @breadman5638
    @breadman5638 Місяць тому

    honestly, Piper isn't bad, and being a physical anomaly character makes her valuable atm but her design and gameplay are what throw a lot of people off. Overall this was a great showcase.

    • @xaius4348
      @xaius4348 Місяць тому

      Piper is probably the best A rank we have right now, imo.

  • @dobvakiindragonborn1201
    @dobvakiindragonborn1201 Місяць тому

    those are some insane discs

  • @charlymittsu9847
    @charlymittsu9847 Місяць тому

    Pulling Ellen c2 and not even using it properly

    • @ka243243
      @ka243243 Місяць тому

      Whats he doing wrong and what should he be doing instead

  • @madyacb5206
    @madyacb5206 Місяць тому

    nicole Tap E skill or hold?

    • @xaius4348
      @xaius4348 Місяць тому

      Tap-spin-release for style :P (Though honestly, if you are just going to short-cast it, this is probably the way to go. Since it delays the impact letting you benefit from the shred for longer)
      I assume holding is better here for the full ether damage though.

  • @iamkurogane
    @iamkurogane Місяць тому +3

    C1 and C2 are just so nice for playing Ellen. Which kinda pisses me off that Hoyo put this behind a paywall

    • @Best-SiLenZ
      @Best-SiLenZ Місяць тому +5

      Isn't it like these in the other hoyo game too? To be fair if those cinema don't make characters better then what's the point.

    • @eurekadiaz3771
      @eurekadiaz3771 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Best-SiLenZ its worse in GI, here C1/2 is a buff, in recent GI, they basically amputate a finished character's kit and sell it as C1/2

    • @wowZhenek
      @wowZhenek Місяць тому

      I paid and 240 pulls later I have c0 ellen and 2 failed 50/50, so ... I guess she's gonna be c0 forever