Unfortunately local TV news doesn't care about these types of analysis. There is some of it on cable news. YT is the perfect medium for it because it's not restricted by time.
As a retired firefighter, I really appreciate your second by second analysis of the radio traffic and events. You are clear and concise and your analysis helps me to make sense of this tragedy. Thank you.
Politics covers every area of life, and the fact is that the Air Traffic people have not been hiring solely on merit, as they should be doing. They have been engaging in DEI hiring policies. That is guaranteed to lower the quality of the service. DEI is a political issue, and it does cost lives, as we have seen in the California fires. We should have only the brightest and the best in these roles. This needs to change today, we don't want another accident tomorror.
@@travisabr1294, an a non-American, when I was not laughing too hard during the "Political speak" the only thing I could think was "God Save America" !!!
@CharlesWhite-j4f How do you know that the ATC was a DEI hire? Regardless of that, how do you know it was their fault and not pilot error? The simple answer is you don't because it just happened and we need to wait for reports to come out before reaching a conclusion. Stop drinking the tea and disrespecting the people that were directly involved dude.
The systems are all breaking down at this time. I worked in the FAA for 21 years and there are multitudes of unsafe practices taking place, this incident was only a matter of timing. There are a lot of conscientious workers in the FAA who have sounded the alarms only to get shutdown by mgmt and these people feel this incident will be one of many. Not sure it can be fixed, but I am praying for the families.
Retired Army Aviator and former Blackhawk pilot here. Concur with your assessment and find it to be very plausible. One thing I haven’t heard as present and contributing to the crash is that the approach end of runway 33 has a maximum crossing altitude of 200 feet AGL. The Blackhawk was at or about 350 feet AGL. Wrong place and time Thanks for what you do.
Im a retired flying crew chief. When are state assets under commercial advisement(atc)? Helicopters operating in the traffic pattern may fly a pattern similar to the fixed-wing aircraft pattern, but at a lower altitude (500 AGL) and closer to the runway. This pattern may be on the opposite side of the runway from fixed-wing traffic when airspeed requires or for practice power-off landings (autorotation) and if local policy permits. Landings not to the runway must avoid the flow of fixed wing traffic. Why are helos not entering approach perpendicular to runway say between blast pads and aiming point on runway. This would never happen if the sops were like this.
I suspect that is why the CRJ crew was not concerned. They wrongly assumed that the helo saw them and would stay below the descent path. Unfortunately, it looks like the helo was gaining altitude to try and cross in front of the CRJ that it had visual on .
Somewhere I heard (general mass media) the Blackhawk was to "follow" the CRJ as if it was coming in to the runway and land. That also makes no sence to me.
Thank you for clear and concise analysis. Unfortunately there are those trying to make a horrific tragedy political. May God bring peace and comfort to all involved.
Thanks for the commentary, Captain. I’m a retired airline pilot and I haven’t heard anybody explain the unusual visual trick that can happen when two objects are on a direct collision course. I’m sure you’re aware of what I’m talking about. It’s the phenomenon where two objects on a direct collision course will appear motionless to each other. This is a very frightening thing in an airplane because the object you’re going to hit will have no apparent motion and is very difficult to see. With all of the light pollution around DCA, I have flown in there many times, this effect might likely be the freakish circumstance that caused the aircraft to not see one another. I’m sure there will be other factors related to ATC, etc.
... I'm a big fan and like so many...really appreciate the concise and fact based info... BUT I have to make note of the pain that may be felt by having the last words of someone's loved one online, less than 24hrs have passed.
Thank you for your clarifications, Captain Steve! We appreciate you explaining the events from your professional point of view and in a manner that we can understand! Prayers all around for those involved with this disaster!
Rare accident or not. The military helicopters, or any traffic for that matter, SHOULD NOT be allowed to cross the final approach airspace to ANY runway!
It’s quite unsettling because this seems so intuitive to me. But apparently, it’s allowed. Just like the concrete structures at the end of the runway-179 lives lost recently. What else might seem obvious to have or not to have, yet leads to such tragic accidents? Truly frightening!
So why were you watching the Trump briefing? Hope it was not like me (a Canadian) he was on ever news channel live. Including the "bull-shit" that was not bleeped !
A clear explanation, much appreciated. I'm beginning to think that we need to replace the legacy news channels with competent, honest, knowledgeable, people such as Captain Steeeve.
I'm not a pilot... but what I am understanding is that helicopters are darting thru flight paths of incoming planes that are focused on landing. And they are instructed to do this by SIGHT at night... and this is done by saying "go behind" and are responsible for making sure they are talking about the CORRECT plane. This seems absolutely insane...
Agree. And, even if they’re using sight, are they not consulting radar at all? You’d think that would alert them that they need sight on two separate planes.
They are not INSTRUCTED to do this by sight. They REQUEST if they can do it by sight. And if they are given permission to do it, then all the weight and responsibility on getting it right legally falls on them. So in this case, barring anything currently not known yet, this is going to come down to helicopter pilot error.
And why are they flying at the same altitude? Why even take that chance with the same altitude? Why not the crossed flight path is much further away from that spot so their altitude would not be an issue.
I'm sure close calls happen all the time and we just never hear about them. There's a ton of space up there and aircraft can be in any of it. It would be almost impossible to have a collision even with substandard ATC performance.
Capt. Steven, Thank you for giving us more clarity on this terrible tragedy. Many of us who travel were in shock that this could occur. I pray that the souls involved passed immediately and they are in our prayers.
This is gonna go big, I am sure. This is what people need, not 3 hours of unclear information from the media (as a European, I aprreciate this video even more as I don't watch media from the US most of the time). A very big THANK YOU and let all those lost souls rest in eternal peace.
As a 737 pilot I land here frequently. I’ve seen those Blackhawks flying down the river. This one seems to be a bit further west than typical. Also, I don’t call traffic in sight in busy airspace….let the controller separate traffic.
That's a great point...consciously or not, was that helo crew trying to be polite to the controller, hearing how busy he was, and allowed themselves to follow the narrative without truly having situational awareness. Better to let it go, then the burden is on the controller to make sure VFR/IFR are separated. In that case the controller would have likely issued immediate instructions to deconflict them.
@@mr3745 I watched a close call video where the military guy screwed up. In the comments they were saying how cocky these military people are, as you can imagine.
My sister lives on JBAB and every helicopter I've seen flight route 4 N/S on the Potomac is low (under 200') and hugs the eastern side of the Potomac to stay out of way of DCA especially a 33 approach. Helicopter was high and too far west as you say.
My sister is a flight attendant for psa. This was a Charlotte based crew. Luckily she wasn't on this flight. But to think she is a crew member and something so avoidable still happening is heartbreaking. Heart goes out to everyone involved.
Glad to see a professional actually explain this, too many people with no DCA flying experience or aviation knowledge are spewing incorrect information and conspiracies.
As a passenger I'm absolutely horrified to find out that all of the systems and procedures constructed to ensure my safety can simply be handed over to some random person in a helicopter who is looking the wrong way.
Yes I agree. Surely the helicopter should be placed in a safe position particularly in this busy airport and not rely on a helicopter crew to decide things are safe
Hearing a pilot on Times Radio: he said that there is a certain rule for American military pilots that they are quite free to NOT follow their corridor (here at below 200 ft). Something called 'situation awareness' trusting their pilots. If that isn't just f...... silly..... If he'd just stayed down this wouldn't have happened.
The worst part is military aircraft usually communicate on UHF radio frequencies, while they can do VHF they normally do not. Civilian airlines use VHF Radio frequencies. If the helicopter was on the same frequency the CRJ might have requested or made adjustments to knowing they were close. Also TCAS which is the collision avoidance does not tell aircraft to fly up or down to avoid a collision when you are below 1000ft.
In another channel, it was noted that the collision happened at 400 ft. They said that the Helo should have been at 200 ft. Similar accidents happen in NYC where the Helos were flying too high colliding against airplanes. Tragic.
Yes. Hearing a pilot on Times Radio: he said that there is a certain rule for American military pilots that they are quite free to NOT follow their corridor (here at 200 ft). Something called 'situation awareness' trusting their pilots. If that isn't just f...... silly..... If he'd just stayed down this wouldn't have happened.
@@haberdashery148 I'm pretty sure that's not the case. All helicopters flying in the Washington, DC region follow established routes, even military helicopters. Since 911, you won't see any helicopters in that airspace except law enforcement, medevac, military and news-gathering. They have to make contact with ATC and give their intentions. They can't just fly willy-nilly through the airspace. The helicopter PAT25 was supposed to be on one of those helicopter routes. The route where the incident took place was Route 4. The regional jet had to cross over that route to land on RWY33. The NTSB investigation will determine whether the helicopter had violated that airspace by being off course or too high. As Captain Steve said, responsibility for separation was the responsibility of the UH-60 helicopter crew. They didn't just fly recklessly into the airspace. They most likely misidentified the plane they should have been separated from.
This is the best professional assessment so far. No channel has covered the probable cause of this unfortunate accident so convincingly, and many viewers erroneously thought the ATC was to blame. Thank you so much, Captain, for educating the viewers.
Very thoughtful and kind of you to communicate with everyone during this extremely difficult tragedy. Thank you. I’m retiring tomorrow from GE Aerospace with 30 plus years in aviation. Just heart breaking. Prayers for all.
Thank you Captain Steve, we pray for the lost souls. Despite what was told by the president, the air traffic control at the tower did a terrific job. We need professionals like you to tell everyone the truth. Thank you
Yeah just an accident. Of course everything is political, Democrats are also blaming the President for getting rid of safety measures when that's clearly not the issue either
Imagine trusting a pilot on UA-cam over your own Commander in Chief and President of the United States of America. That's the most comically dark shit imaginable
@@theGermanguy1970 I'm not entirely sure that's going to be true on debrief. ATC should have absolutely been more clear on which RJ the helo had a visual on instead of just trusting it was the correct one. From a pilot for 31 years
This is the intelligent, focused explanation and analysis we have all needed. Thank you for explaining it concisely and for sharing your expert knowledge.
Thank you Captain Steve for your clarity and explanations. I appreciate you for helping us understand what happened. It's such an unspeakable tragedy. My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones in this accident 💔 😭🙏🏼
We are praying for all the families of these folks. Such a tragedy. Thanks for giving such a difficult report. You explained it far better than the news reports did.
Cpt. Steve. You’re a real gentleman, and I’m in awe of your professionalism. Better than any news/media outlet. Clear, concise and I can feel your sentiment! God Bless, and thank you for this 🙏
Thank you Captain Steve for this information. It's so sad, my heart broke upon watching that collision. Horrible. And a big hug to you Captain Steve, these are your colleagues, my heart is with you.❤🙏And their families.
I love Captain Steeeeve because he is slow and explains things very clearly. Thanks for making sure everyone knows what happened and how the process works. Keep up the great work!!!
I agree. Another channel went down a rabbit hole. So I posted Captain Steve's video to their channel. I believe this was optics and he was looking at the wrong plane. Prayer to the families.
For 20 or so years, my go-to guy for aviation news & info has been Tom Costello. I still need him, but I am so glad to have access to your experience now. BTW, I think your short videos could be combined to make a primer for first-time fliers, there is so much comfort in your information and your warm presentation.
Very interesting analysis in to this awful tragedy. Heart goes out to all involved in the crash and those that have to deal with the aftermath, families and relatives too.
Great job of describing what (most likely) happened in this tragedy. Visual identification errors can indeed happen in crowded airspace and can have deadly results. Some 40 years ago a navy SH-60 I was riding in almost suffered a similar fate. We were in the landing pattern when the pilot in an executive-type jet behind us mis-identified another helo in the landing pattern as ours, with the result that he almost flew into us on approach to NAS North Island. If our pilot had not been so aware and experienced, I might not be here today - our pilot executed an emergency descent just as the executive jet flew right into the airspace we had just left. We ended up hovering just above the Hotel del Coronado as the jet passed overhead on its final approach for landing. Needless to say, it was a close call that one never forgets... Kudos for your expert explanations of what probably happened last night, Captain Steve.
@gunnergoz Hi. The pilot (experienced) in your situation performed well during an emergency, as you well shared. I'm wondering if the person piloting THIS helicopter that crashed into the plane was experienced also? So many questions right now.
Thank you very much for your clear-eyed assessment of such a tragic situation. You're as much of a pro as those great controllers and brave first responders!
Wish you had been the person to give this technical explanation at this mornings press briefing. Thank you for an excellent explanation. Condolences to all who had family, friends and colleagues involved.
Thank you sir, always love you content even the sad ones. your explanations helps us understand the behind the scenes and keep trusting you and all the aviation professionals.
I've seen many videos and I'm guessing this is exactly what happened. An additional point is that 3130 had headlights facing directly at PAT 25 and was a larger plane than the CRJ. The CRJ is a smaller plane and was at an oblique angle so it may have looked further visually even though it was closer. Also the 33 approach comes over a bluff right before crossing the water - PAT 25 was definitely looking at the wrong aircraft and looks like not abiding by the Flight Corridor 4 protocol of hugging the eastern edge of the Potomac and staying below 200'.
this is the kinda guy that the regular news needs on
He's not pushing there narrative tho 😂
There’s no such thing as “regular” news anymore. What you’re referring to is the lying corrupt corporate news that is finally almost irrelevant now.
Thank you Steve very good explanation
Unfortunately local TV news doesn't care about these types of analysis. There is some of it on cable news. YT is the perfect medium for it because it's not restricted by time.
Absolutely
Professional analysis， much stronger than the government
A million times better than all of the news and even administration as to what happened
Watch Blancolirio. Much better than this guy.
100% correct. I was trying to hear Mayor Bowser but 2 min in she was still introducing people. I just want to know what the hell happened please
@@dustyrhodes2717 Yea, well because he specializes in reporting on these issues and is able to obtain much more info!
thats for sure...the rest are just making it up, even if he's guessing, he knows the rules of the road for these guys
@@dustyrhodes2717 Weird comment. They’re both fine.
As a retired firefighter, I really appreciate your second by second analysis of the radio traffic and events. You are clear and concise and your analysis helps me to make sense of this tragedy. Thank you.
How could the helicopter not see the plane with all their landing lights on ? I am lost here?
It's so hard to understand this. Such a tragedy.@@jacquelinedavie9632
Thank you for the un-politicized, factual account of what happened. So much better than the news talking heads
And the president's speech and finger pointing. The buck doesn't stop there...
Politics covers every area of life, and the fact is that the Air Traffic people have not been hiring solely on merit, as they should be doing. They have been engaging in DEI hiring policies. That is guaranteed to lower the quality of the service. DEI is a political issue, and it does cost lives, as we have seen in the California fires. We should have only the brightest and the best in these roles. This needs to change today, we don't want another accident tomorror.
@CharlesWhite-j4fif you listened you’d understand it wasn’t the ATCs fault. It was the helicopter pilot that was responsible for spacing.
@@travisabr1294, an a non-American, when I was not laughing too hard during the "Political speak" the only thing I could think was "God Save America" !!!
@CharlesWhite-j4f How do you know that the ATC was a DEI hire? Regardless of that, how do you know it was their fault and not pilot error? The simple answer is you don't because it just happened and we need to wait for reports to come out before reaching a conclusion. Stop drinking the tea and disrespecting the people that were directly involved dude.
The systems are all breaking down at this time. I worked in the FAA for 21 years and there are multitudes of unsafe practices taking place, this incident was only a matter of timing. There are a lot of conscientious workers in the FAA who have sounded the alarms only to get shutdown by mgmt and these people feel this incident will be one of many. Not sure it can be fixed, but I am praying for the families.
A tragic accident expertly and respectfully explained with compassion for all those affected. Thank you Captain Steeeve.
No, not an accident, a negligent act
Thanks Captain Steve. From one pilot to another, this is a far, far better explanation than any news source.
i don't think anyone else could have said this better than you have. thank you for going through all of this information.
...I agree, but still have to note the pain of hearing a loved one's last words hitting the mass online audience.😢
Retired Army Aviator and former Blackhawk pilot here. Concur with your assessment and find it to be very plausible. One thing I haven’t heard as present and contributing to the crash is that the approach end of runway 33 has a maximum crossing altitude of 200 feet AGL. The Blackhawk was at or about 350 feet AGL. Wrong place and time Thanks for what you do.
So does the blackhawk suppose to fly at around 200? Vs the 350? Or it depends
Im a retired flying crew chief. When are state assets under commercial advisement(atc)?
Helicopters operating in the traffic pattern may fly a pattern similar to the fixed-wing aircraft pattern, but at a lower altitude (500 AGL) and closer to the runway. This pattern may be on the opposite side of the runway from fixed-wing traffic when airspeed requires or for practice power-off landings (autorotation) and if local policy permits. Landings not to the runway must avoid the flow of fixed wing traffic.
Why are helos not entering approach perpendicular to runway say between blast pads and aiming point on runway. This would never happen if the sops were like this.
I suspect that is why the CRJ crew was not concerned. They wrongly assumed that the helo saw them and would stay below the descent path. Unfortunately, it looks like the helo was gaining altitude to try and cross in front of the CRJ that it had visual on .
Somewhere I heard (general mass media) the Blackhawk was to "follow" the CRJ as if it was coming in to the runway and land. That also makes no sence to me.
Thank you for clear and concise analysis. Unfortunately there are those trying to make a horrific tragedy political. May God bring peace and comfort to all involved.
Terrible tragedy, but thank you for the good explanation on the likely scenario Steve 🙏
Everyone needs to watch this.
Thank you Captain Steeeve.
Thanks for the commentary, Captain. I’m a retired airline pilot and I haven’t heard anybody explain the unusual visual trick that can happen when two objects are on a direct collision course. I’m sure you’re aware of what I’m talking about. It’s the phenomenon where two objects on a direct collision course will appear motionless to each other. This is a very frightening thing in an airplane because the object you’re going to hit will have no apparent motion and is very difficult to see. With all of the light pollution around DCA, I have flown in there many times, this effect might likely be the freakish circumstance that caused the aircraft to not see one another. I’m sure there will be other factors related to ATC, etc.
Sort of like a tornado I suppose... I f it doesn't appear to be moving (left or right) it is coming directly at you...
What an unspeakable tragedy. Thank you for taking the time to make this video at a time when the aviation industry is in mourning.
Don't fly! That wasn't the only airplane that went down in America yesterday.
Using the word unspeakable is pretty Autistic of you. Way to stay on brand!!
👏👏👏
... there's enough mourning to go around, ...but would note 64+3's loved one's pain before "aviation industry"
@@mattmatt6572?
This is why citizen journalism is so critical. Thankyou for the explanation.
This is professional journalism from an unbiased expert.
Thank you for the explanation Cpt. Steve. I know this was difficult for you as a pilot. We appreciate it.
... I'm a big fan and like so many...really appreciate the concise and fact based info...
BUT I have to make note of the pain that may be felt by having the last words of someone's loved one online, less than 24hrs have passed.
Thanks captain for the clear explanation and walk through of the accident.
So clearly explained. Thank you for uploading this Captain Steeeve.
The professionalism and composure of eveyone on Comms was absolutely outstanding
With tears in my eyes a quiet thank you Captain Steve
😢 Yep
Thank you for your clarifications, Captain Steve! We appreciate you explaining the events from your professional point of view and in a manner that we can understand! Prayers all around for those involved with this disaster!
Rare accident or not.
The military helicopters, or any traffic for that matter, SHOULD NOT be allowed to cross the final approach airspace to ANY runway!
That is what my thoughts are too. What was that heli doing? Head east not south.
It’s quite unsettling because this seems so intuitive to me. But apparently, it’s allowed. Just like the concrete structures at the end of the runway-179 lives lost recently. What else might seem obvious to have or not to have, yet leads to such tragic accidents? Truly frightening!
I guess they become cocky with all modern technology...seems like they gonna do serious changes.
Obviously the pilot of army black hawk helicopter was in training (try to gain experience) and hit the passenger flight killing all on board!
Unless theyre flying a mission, its called training.
Doesnt mean he isnt highly experienced.
News is unwatchable. They treat us like children who can’t think. Thank you for this quick and concise coverage. Will be subbing
So why were you watching the Trump briefing?
Hope it was not like me (a Canadian) he was on ever news channel live.
Including the "bull-shit" that was not bleeped !
I can see the hurt and concern in your eyes. Thanks for taking us through the video.
A clear explanation, much appreciated. I'm beginning to think that we need to replace the legacy news channels with competent, honest, knowledgeable, people such as Captain Steeeve.
Thank you for your professional analysis….much appreciated!
Real person not using a bunch of word salad. This is what we want in our media and our journalists.
I'm not a pilot... but what I am understanding is that helicopters are darting thru flight paths of incoming planes that are focused on landing. And they are instructed to do this by SIGHT at night... and this is done by saying "go behind" and are responsible for making sure they are talking about the CORRECT plane.
This seems absolutely insane...
Agree. And, even if they’re using sight, are they not consulting radar at all? You’d think that would alert them that they need sight on two separate planes.
They are not INSTRUCTED to do this by sight. They REQUEST if they can do it by sight. And if they are given permission to do it, then all the weight and responsibility on getting it right legally falls on them. So in this case, barring anything currently not known yet, this is going to come down to helicopter pilot error.
It obviously is..
And why are they flying at the same altitude? Why even take that chance with the same altitude? Why not the crossed flight path is much further away from that spot so their altitude would not be an issue.
I'm sure close calls happen all the time and we just never hear about them. There's a ton of space up there and aircraft can be in any of it. It would be almost impossible to have a collision even with substandard ATC performance.
Capt. Steven,
Thank you for giving us more clarity on this terrible tragedy. Many of us who travel were in shock that this could occur. I pray that the souls involved passed immediately and they are in our prayers.
Thank you for the respectful explanation. It’s a heartbreaking tragedy.
This is gonna go big, I am sure. This is what people need, not 3 hours of unclear information from the media (as a European, I aprreciate this video even more as I don't watch media from the US most of the time). A very big THANK YOU and let all those lost souls rest in eternal peace.
As a 737 pilot I land here frequently. I’ve seen those Blackhawks flying down the river. This one seems to be a bit further west than typical. Also, I don’t call traffic in sight in busy airspace….let the controller separate traffic.
That's a great point...consciously or not, was that helo crew trying to be polite to the controller, hearing how busy he was, and allowed themselves to follow the narrative without truly having situational awareness. Better to let it go, then the burden is on the controller to make sure VFR/IFR are separated. In that case the controller would have likely issued immediate instructions to deconflict them.
@@mr3745 I watched a close call video where the military guy screwed up. In the comments they were saying how cocky these military people are, as you can imagine.
@@GonProHunterVA nonesense
bingo ....they should have been separated by the controller ...forget visual at night at 300 mph..not at the same altitude of 300ft.
My sister lives on JBAB and every helicopter I've seen flight route 4 N/S on the Potomac is low (under 200') and hugs the eastern side of the Potomac to stay out of way of DCA especially a 33 approach. Helicopter was high and too far west as you say.
My sister is a flight attendant for psa. This was a Charlotte based crew. Luckily she wasn't on this flight. But to think she is a crew member and something so avoidable still happening is heartbreaking. Heart goes out to everyone involved.
🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you for the respectful way you conveyed this information
Glad to see a professional actually explain this, too many people with no DCA flying experience or aviation knowledge are spewing incorrect information and conspiracies.
Don't put down Donald Trump. He says he has helicopter experience.
As a passenger I'm absolutely horrified to find out that all of the systems and procedures constructed to ensure my safety can simply be handed over to some random person in a helicopter who is looking the wrong way.
Yes I agree. Surely the helicopter should be placed in a safe position particularly in this busy airport and not rely on a helicopter crew to decide things are safe
@@patkelly6349 It's Washington D.C. There are more important people to keep safe. /s
Well, not exactly a random person, to be fair. It was a military pilot that likely had a second pilot on board.
Hearing a pilot on Times Radio: he said that there is a certain rule for American military pilots that they are quite free to NOT follow their corridor (here at below 200 ft). Something called 'situation awareness' trusting their pilots. If that isn't just f...... silly..... If he'd just stayed down this wouldn't have happened.
The worst part is military aircraft usually communicate on UHF radio frequencies, while they can do VHF they normally do not. Civilian airlines use VHF Radio frequencies. If the helicopter was on the same frequency the CRJ might have requested or made adjustments to knowing they were close. Also TCAS which is the collision avoidance does not tell aircraft to fly up or down to avoid a collision when you are below 1000ft.
Pray for the families 🙏 Thank you Cpt. Steve
Thank you Capt. Steve, A sad day for our country indeed
BEST moment by moment explanation.
Thank you!
Very professional. Thank you. Clear answers are the only solace for the bereaved at this stage. Good work.
Thank you, Captain Steve. Your professionalism is phenomenal.
Thank you sir for taking the time to share these details with the public. It’s just absolutely awful what happened.
Great explanation. Thank you.
Thank you for recording this video - I can see how heavy your heart is right now ... Take care Captrain Steeve ❤
Thenk you so much for taking the time to put this summary together, it’s a tragic accident . I can sense your sadness 😢… Fly safe👍🏻🇦🇺👍🏻
RIP to all we lost. Sending prayers to all those who lost loved ones and friends
Excellent Analysis based on what is known.
In another channel, it was noted that the collision happened at 400 ft. They said that the Helo should have been at 200 ft. Similar accidents happen in NYC where the Helos were flying too high colliding against airplanes. Tragic.
Yes. Hearing a pilot on Times Radio: he said that there is a certain rule for American military pilots that they are quite free to NOT follow their corridor (here at 200 ft). Something called 'situation awareness' trusting their pilots. If that isn't just f...... silly..... If he'd just stayed down this wouldn't have happened.
if it was a mile off the runway, then approaching plane would have been about 400-500 feet.
I think it looks like a suicide mission. I hope they can confirm who was actually flying that helicopter.
Exactly atc should have reminded the helicopter was too high and westerly.
@@haberdashery148 I'm pretty sure that's not the case. All helicopters flying in the Washington, DC region follow established routes, even military helicopters. Since 911, you won't see any helicopters in that airspace except law enforcement, medevac, military and news-gathering. They have to make contact with ATC and give their intentions. They can't just fly willy-nilly through the airspace. The helicopter PAT25 was supposed to be on one of those helicopter routes. The route where the incident took place was Route 4. The regional jet had to cross over that route to land on RWY33. The NTSB investigation will determine whether the helicopter had violated that airspace by being off course or too high. As Captain Steve said, responsibility for separation was the responsibility of the UH-60 helicopter crew. They didn't just fly recklessly into the airspace. They most likely misidentified the plane they should have been separated from.
Thanks Captain Steve! This is why we love all the aviation youtubers. Real passionate people. Thank you
Excellent explanation. I suspect you are spot on. Prayers to all who lost a loved one.
This is the best professional assessment so far. No channel has covered the probable cause of this unfortunate accident so convincingly, and many viewers erroneously thought the ATC was to blame. Thank you so much, Captain, for educating the viewers.
Very thoughtful and kind of you to communicate with everyone during this extremely difficult tragedy. Thank you. I’m retiring tomorrow from GE Aerospace with 30 plus years in aviation. Just heart breaking. Prayers for all.
I think your conclusion is spot on Captain. So tragic. Thanks
Thank you Captain Steve, we pray for the lost souls. Despite what was told by the president, the air traffic control at the tower did a terrific job. We need professionals like you to tell everyone the truth. Thank you
Yeah just an accident. Of course everything is political, Democrats are also blaming the President for getting rid of safety measures when that's clearly not the issue either
Imagine trusting a pilot on UA-cam over your own Commander in Chief and President of the United States of America. That's the most comically dark shit imaginable
@@theGermanguy1970 I'm not entirely sure that's going to be true on debrief. ATC should have absolutely been more clear on which RJ the helo had a visual on instead of just trusting it was the correct one.
From a pilot for 31 years
This is the intelligent, focused explanation and analysis we have all needed. Thank you for explaining it concisely and for sharing your expert knowledge.
It makes sense :( The pilot for sure saw the other plane and felt confident it was the CRJ... What a devastating tragedy.
He is speculating.....he has no proof and nor do you.
Captain Steve, thank you for your explanation. 💔for the crew and passengers of both aircraft.
Thanks, Steeve. You have explained it simply and quickly with no hype and BS.
Thank you. By FAR the best report and analysis I have seen of this tragic accident.
Thank you Captain Steve for your clarity and explanations. I appreciate you for helping us understand what happened. It's such an unspeakable tragedy. My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones in this accident 💔 😭🙏🏼
Thanks for making this one, Captain Steve. RIP to those involved in the accident 🖤
BY FAR the best video about this tragic event published since it happened!!! THANK YOU!
Thank you Captain Steve
We are praying for all the families of these folks. Such a tragedy. Thanks for giving such a difficult report. You explained it far better than the news reports did.
Cpt. Steve. You’re a real gentleman, and I’m in awe of your professionalism. Better than any news/media outlet. Clear, concise and I can feel your sentiment! God Bless, and thank you for this 🙏
Thank you Captain Steeve. This brought me to tears.
My deepest empathy to the families. Thank you for your detailed breakdown and analysis Captain Steeeve.
Thank you Captain Steve✨💖✨
This is the most reasonable analysis I had heard all day. Much better than all news channels. Thank you.👍👍👍
Thank you Captain Steve for this information. It's so sad, my heart broke upon watching that collision. Horrible. And a big hug to you Captain Steve, these are your colleagues, my heart is with you.❤🙏And their families.
I love Captain Steeeeve because he is slow and explains things very clearly. Thanks for making sure everyone knows what happened and how the process works. Keep up the great work!!!
Thank you for adding some clarity, Captain Steve. My thought and prayers are with all those families who lost loved ones last night.
Thank you Captain Steve. May God help those departed and their families.
It’s tragic … in complete agreement with your comments, they were visualizing the wrong plane
I agree. Another channel went down a rabbit hole. So I posted Captain Steve's video to their channel. I believe this was optics and he was looking at the wrong plane. Prayer to the families.
Best info out there yet. Thank you for getting right on this to update your viewers/ public.
For 20 or so years, my go-to guy for aviation news & info has been Tom Costello. I still need him, but I am so glad to have access to your experience now. BTW, I think your short videos could be combined to make a primer for first-time fliers, there is so much comfort in your information and your warm presentation.
Very interesting analysis in to this awful tragedy. Heart goes out to all involved in the crash and those that have to deal with the aftermath, families and relatives too.
All my best to you, captain!
Thanks for your take on this, Captain. 😢
Great job of describing what (most likely) happened in this tragedy. Visual identification errors can indeed happen in crowded airspace and can have deadly results. Some 40 years ago a navy SH-60 I was riding in almost suffered a similar fate. We were in the landing pattern when the pilot in an executive-type jet behind us mis-identified another helo in the landing pattern as ours, with the result that he almost flew into us on approach to NAS North Island. If our pilot had not been so aware and experienced, I might not be here today - our pilot executed an emergency descent just as the executive jet flew right into the airspace we had just left. We ended up hovering just above the Hotel del Coronado as the jet passed overhead on its final approach for landing. Needless to say, it was a close call that one never forgets... Kudos for your expert explanations of what probably happened last night, Captain Steve.
@gunnergoz Hi. The pilot (experienced) in your situation performed well during an emergency, as you well shared. I'm wondering if the person piloting THIS helicopter that crashed into the plane was experienced also? So many questions right now.
Thank you for the information. So Tragic. 😢
It tears me up just listening to you talk about this. This is sad
Tremendous and clarity and editing in this video. Thank you for putting this together.
Thank you for putting this in layman's terms. Your thorough explanation is greatly appreciated.
it was intentional
@@GonProHunterVA🙄
Thank you for the clarification of this sad incident.
Thank you for your analysis. Truly tragic.
Thank you Captain. I found myself crying at the end of your presentation.
Thank you very much for your clear-eyed assessment of such a tragic situation. You're as much of a pro as those great controllers and brave first responders!
Absolute tragic and horrible situation, pray for all that were lost. You did an excellent job re-capping, better than all the major news stations!
Thank you Captain Steeeeve
It's just "Captain Steve" for this one 😔.
@@catkeys6911I do agree this time on this one...
Absolutely amazing that neither pilot reported seeing anything in their way.
The crj is on finl and focused on landing they more than likely couldn't see what's below them
Wish you had been the person to give this technical explanation at this mornings press briefing. Thank you for an excellent explanation. Condolences to all who had family, friends and colleagues involved.
Thank you Captain Steve for showing and clear explanation of events.
Thank you Capt. Steeeve for your professional thoughts and insights. Prayers to all involved. So sad.
No hyperbole and finger pointing here...just a factual presentation.....
Thank you sir, always love you content even the sad ones. your explanations helps us understand the behind the scenes and keep trusting you and all the aviation professionals.
it was intentional
@@GonProHunterVAStop
Thank you Captain for your analysis on this tragic crash.
Thank you for going over this. So very sad.
I've seen many videos and I'm guessing this is exactly what happened. An additional point is that 3130 had headlights facing directly at PAT 25 and was a larger plane than the CRJ. The CRJ is a smaller plane and was at an oblique angle so it may have looked further visually even though it was closer. Also the 33 approach comes over a bluff right before crossing the water - PAT 25 was definitely looking at the wrong aircraft and looks like not abiding by the Flight Corridor 4 protocol of hugging the eastern edge of the Potomac and staying below 200'.