Thanks for posting this! Im a first time mommy to be and im undecided on which one to purchase do you think storing milk for later use with the elvie would be more difficult?
New sub! Great vid. Which one offers the most upper body mobility? I have a back injury (I only express) and it’s a dreaded part of pumping to sit straight up or leak on my flange connection. Thank you for showing the full view of the product and battery life. High five to all the mommies watching this video in the middle of the night, researching how to be an even better mommy. You are a great mother for being here! Hang in there and love that baby!
Thank you for the kind words, willow pump for sure is the one that will not leak for you whatever way you pump :) currently there s a sale , last day today . Please refer to my description box for a link straight to their website and the sale coupon
Great video but I’ve heard there is less mobility with Elvie because it can leak. Any experience with that? Also would’ve been good to mention you can reuse willow bags and for both pumps can use flange Inserts for those not 24 or 27 mm size
Great video! I keep tossing up between the freemie liberty, willow and Elvie. I pumped 150ml (5 oz) per pump in 20 mins with medela for Bub 1. It seems like I would have to change bags every second with the willow (issues with air getting in as well?) or I would need to wear Elvie 24-7 due to its poor suction! Do you have any experience with freemie?? :)
Kbear S I have fremmie liberty with closed system cups , and is low suction 😢. This is the reason I want the willow. But the willow is more big that fremmie cup
Hi kbear, I now have a video on suction power and comparing them to the conventional pumps . My channel also has a video on how you can reuse the willow bags Willow vs. Elvie vs. Medela vs. Spectra Suction Power and Output Comparison ua-cam.com/video/E9AjLl1wC9s/v-deo.html
Thanks so much for making this video! I can tell you like each for different reasons and that's really helpful. I personally love how you answered as many questions as you could think of to the best of you ability. This video has been super helpful!
I appreciate your video and I want to add more info about the Elvie. During each session it doesn't remember the previous pumping setting so it starts at the default strength and needs to be adjusted every single time. Also, 1 to 2 minutes into the pumping session when the expression mode automatically changes, the pumping strength resets to the default strength and needs to be adjusted again (It's very odd). The volume sensor on the Elvie is not accurate for me 95% of the time which is annoying. The app has some issues. In the app, the timer is useless because it doesn't talk to the pump; the pump keeps pumping after the timer goes off and you do have to remember to manually set the timer before each pumping session. For some reason, when the app timer goes off, it is a silent alert, so sometimes I don't realize that the timer went off. I have to correct the volume on the app after every session because the sensor is always inaccurate. Lastly, although the Elvie is more quiet than the Willow, it is not silent (as advertised). For example, don't expect to go to lecture or go to a library without hearing a robotic sound coming from your bosom. I believe that the technology is still very new so maybe there is room for improvement. I feel that I need to constantly monitor that it hasn't paused itself and open my app to check that the suction strength hasn't changed on it's own. Note: at first, I did have a lower output with the Elvie (about 1 ounce less) than with the Spectra, however I believe that now the output is similar overall. I don't know if I would buy this pump if I had to make this decision again. Good luck!
Ya a los 15 minutos me pareció mejor el elvie principalmente por la bolsa que podrías usar la que te quede más cómodo y podrías llevar uno solo. Gracias por el video, saludos desde Argentina
I'd much rather pay $499 for this pump than the Willow once available in the US. At least you don't have to use 4oz bags and deal with terrible customer service that Willow offers. Can't wait until it's released in the US.
Thank you so much for posting this. I've used the willow for the past year with my 2nd child which improved the entire experience SO MUCH compared to my first and was curious about how the elvie compares. The downsides of the willow for me are 1) its huge and not as quiet as they advertise, 2) has a serious learning curve and should have had a clear flange to start (they've fixed this in the 2.0 version but that seems like a basic concept they should have started with) and 3) only including one charger is ridiculous (seems like a money grab). The bags seemed expensive at first, but you can reuse them, and they're great for travel - super compact and 99% of the time TSA agents don't flag them. Most importantly though, I appreciate how much the willow changed my life - when I travel for work, instead of pumping for 20 minutes in an airport bathroom, I can now do it in the cab or on the plane, and even at home I can chase my toddler at the same time without bottles hanging from my chest. Based on your review it's great that the elvie charges via USB and is smaller and quieter, but the lower output is definitely a concern. Sounds like neither is a perfect solution yet... but I really wanted to say I LOVE that there is real investment and innovation coming into the space - Medela has dominated the market for way too long with extremely subpar products and complete lack of innovation. I'm so happy there are companies out there trying to make life easier and better for moms, so thank you to both Willow and Elvie!!
How do you reuse the bags? They specifically say they can't be reused as they have to be cut open to get milk. Just bought the Willow so if there are tips and tricks to reusing the bags I'm super curious!!
Mark Laufenburger I have other videos on my channel with tips and tricks on the willow and one on re using the bags . Please let me know if you can’t find them
I love your videos, I wish that I had found your channel in the beginning of my breastfeeding/pumping journey and long before I decided to buy the elvie. How many times do you pump a day and how many hours in between? I started off with over supply on both my breasts then got mastitis on my right and had a decrease ever since, I've been trying to get that to produce more milk ever since. Im currently 6 months pp, do you have any tips on increasing supply this late in the game? Also, have you ever heard of goats rue?
Thanks for this video. I wanted to also add that the willow is really complicated to learn how to not get it to spill all over the place when you're done. It takes a while to learn how to get it to "gulp" the milk down at the end of the session. Also, each bag has a max 4 oz, but if the bag gets any air in it, then the capacity is even less. If you fill it to 4 oz from one breast, the gulping mechanism is a real mess.
I own the elvie, willow and the spectra and I actually get more milk with the elvie. again, phlange size matters. make sure you get the right size plange size for the elvie. my output with the elvie is 6oz a pump and with the spectra its 3-4 oz. the willow doesnt compare, I get about 1/2 - 1 oz per pump with the willow. also the elvie only takes 15-20 minutes for a full charge for me.
The Willow doesn't come with the 21mm flange. I reached out to their team of experts who said they don't recommend their breast pump if your nipples are smaller than the size of a dime. I'm sure this will have a negative impact on output if the flange is too big?!
I’ve watched this video a lot over the past months! I was trying to conceive. With my first I gave up breastfeeding because it was getting hard to move around the house and go to work. I didn’t know much about breast milk and breast feeding. Since coming across this video I’ve seen many of other mommy shark videos that helped me get a better understanding of breast milk and exclusively pumping. Finally after some months I’m expecting baby #2! I did my research and saw there were 2 wearable pumps on the market. I couldn’t decide which one was better for me. After watching this video I believe that a more gentle cycle, slimmer fit and reusable container will help me out this time around. I think I will go with the Elvie! I’m so excited for it get closer to December to get this pump! I look forward to seeing more videos by Mommy Shark to educate myself more on exclusively pumping!!! 😁🍼
Desiree Daniels there is leaking if you are not careful. This means not bending over much and making sure you check on the container occasionally since the app isn’t the very accurate.
The pumps will work without WiFi or service on your phone correct? I'm guessing the app is just for convenience tracking but not necessary for function....
@@MommyShark Hi! First, I have the most adorable baby boy ever he is just perfect 😍 Brest feeding has gone as well as anyone could expect. He's 1 month and I tried my pump out for the first time, it was easy and I got a little over an ounce from each breast in about 10 minutes. I think I had one side on stronger suction though, maybe too high because one nipple came out like twice it's normal size😳😵 like Kylie Jenner lip challenge effect. Is that normal?! I don't I guess I'll just turn it down? When will that nipple go back to normal its wigging me out a little ....
I am a working GM in fast food given these are so big and heavy would I be able to walk around while using these now in my position I won’t be able to leave the floor every few hours to sit and pump taking time away from my team will these still work while on the move?
Stupid questions here I'm sure, but 1. Could you wear either of these after it is done for an additional 30 minutes or so if you had to? 2. Is either quiet enough that a room full of 35 15/16-year-olds wouldn't notice the sound even in a quiet room? As a teacher, I don't get lactation/pumping breaks so I need to know if this is an answer to my problems. Thanks.
You can hear it if theres complete silence you bn can hear the suction and milk dripping but the elvie is a flawed product still. I have it and am returning it for a refund because the suction mechanism on it decides when it's going to work and not work lol and I cant waste my breaks trying to make it work when I need the time to get a ample milk supply. Also Its law that you get breaks to pump you should really make a fuss about that
I have the Willow, but with the hassle of the bags can be a bit frustrating. I've always wondered how I'd like the Elvie. I make about 4oz every pump, so there's no way I can sacrifice for a lower powered pump. The bottle just seems so darn convenient because I can get all the fat out. The Willow bags can sometimes be tough to get all the fat out.
Caitlyn Lee I have the Elvie, and I’m going to try the willow. The app is terrible; you never know when you’ve reached your typical output. I also leaked everywhere. I tried it driving once and it was terrifying. Leaks everywhere. I’d rather pay for bags if I actually get the freedom of not leaking and what not.
I am moving more towards the elvie. Bags are way too expensive. It also seems Elvie is better on the nipple bs the willow. Thus, I must go with the Elvie. Hope I am making the right choice
Does the willow (or even the elvie) auto shut off/stop of you've reached max milk volume? I've heard they're very sensitive to liquid. I would hate to have a leak and ruin the whole. Also, how comfortable (or uncomfortable) overall is the suction on the willow?
Yes same question! I have a super heavy supply and I can pump 6-8 oz on each side for each session! I would hate to over fill and have it leak out everywhere!
I am an over producer...like 10-15 Oz out of each breast per pumping session...I obviously know I would need to take it out of my bra and empty during sessions, but at least I’m not stuck on my couch for 45 min! That being said...which would you recommend for an overproducer...I was thinking Elvie because the bottles would be super easy to just switch out mid-pump, but the suction power had me concerned!!! Any comparison you can give to the Madeline PISA? I usually had mid-high on there.
Thanks for the video. I'm just wondering about the weight of the Elvie, is it really practical to walk around etc whilst wearing it or is it too weighty? Thanks.
Thanks for this excellent review. I’m based in Australia and need one for mobility. Neither models are available in Australia so I need to go on reviews like yours prior to purchasing. Thank you so much!
Thanks for putting them on at the end! I really needed to see how they look on someone. I'm not sure if I would look ridiculous in them. I'm definitely looking into the Elvie since it is smaller in size.
I’m your personal opinion, which would be better for a server/waitress? Your video is as very helpful but I’m even more torn from efficiency vs quietness. I work in a high end restaurant in Washington DC and I’m going back to work soon. In order for me to keep pumping I’ll have to use either or of these pumps. It’s impossible to take 30/40 min breaks every 3 hours to pump realistically. Also which of the pumps is less revealing with a square cut shirt on. It’s not low cut but our uniform does shoe my chest (not cleavage).
Using the willow under your clothes , will barely create any noise . The white noise in the restaurant will drown out the willow in my opinion. I will update coupon codes in description box once available
Also, I'm curious as to what size your chest is naturally? Sorry if TMI, but i'm a 40G after pregnancy (started 34DD/D) so I'm nervous it's going to look RIDICULOUS and I'll just sit at home with these, defeating the purpose.
Hi mama shark! I am debating about getting the willow. The reason I want it is because I feel like all I do is pump (since I went back to work by baby won't nurse so I'm pumping exclusively. He is 4 months). The willow is very appealing in that you can wear it and clean, do laundry, go out in public, etc. My question is: is it easy to wear and do things around the house, bending up and down, raising your arm to grab stuff? It is expensive so i want to make sure it will be worth it!
One major complaint I hear about Elvie is leaking/pump dying and the customer service is horrible (according to these ladies). Willow customer service is phenomenal and I can say though I don't own either (yet) I still haven't heard back from Elvie with my questions but Willow sent a follow up email to their Instagram response. I really, really dislike the waste of disposable bags though and Elvie DOES sound quieter, so I keep going back and forth.
So one that can (and usually will) affect your output is the flange size. If its too big or too small, you usually don't get as much milk. The last time I looked at the Willow their smallest flange size was 24mm whereas the Elvie's smallest size was 21mm (although you do have to purchase them separately). Aside from everything else, I would need the Elvie just for the flange size alone so I would just kind of keep that in mind when you're comparing the two.
You would be happy to know that willow does have a 21mm , if you re using the container ! Also, if not using the container , there are many inserts that can used to get you the 21mm sizing :)
I use the Medela symphony and wanted to get one of these. I'm not sure which to get. I use the symphony at about half suction. I like the idea of the elvie more but I'm a really low supplier and don't know if that affects each pump
You need to be emptied properly at each pump in order to not lose your supply . So if you re a person that needs more of a stronger suction , willow is for you . If you respond to light suction , Elvie will work for you
the price is a huge factor for me.. i like the fact that i can choose to buy just one pump with the elvie.. for half the cost of the 2 willow pumps. sorry if you discuss this but i just started the video. also, i'm not a fan of the bags. haven't seen the full review so far but i'm definitely going with the elvie for price alone.
Do either of them come with a smaller flange? I need size 17mm and I know it's not easy to find that size for most pumps. Would it work for me with a bigger flange?
Thanks for this excellent review. Any tips where could I buy the Elvie pump besides there original website. I have been waiting list in their websites for one month still no luck!!
Yes, there’s many women selling their Elvie on our Facebook group . Once you join search the group or head to our albums where they re posted m.facebook.com/groups/1866174886824859?ref=share
the medela freestyle is an amazing one in my opinion, its small and not as loud as the other pumps. also, its small and portable so you arent stuck to a wall for 20-30 mins. :)
Thank you for this video!! I loved that it was really practical. I came here to learn what the Willow was like to clean but ended up learning a lot more. Thanks!
I always pumped 6-8 ounces from each breast in 15 mins with my medela.... as a working mom that was super important for us and it was covered by insurance
I just subscribed to your channel you are what I need now. Specially because you keep giving updates for videos. I mean that's totally what happened in real life. First impression but after awhile I have a second opinion. Thank you again.
@@MommyShark usually ppl make videos for the first months of use. Which mostly will be a good experience but after all the excitement gone its hard to find a person who will make another video about the true experience, problems and how to solve it and my best favourite thing is the comparison between different types of pumps 😍👌❤
Thank you so much for the video. I am a physical therapist and I am looking at something that will not leak. What would your recommendations be? Also, I use the medela Currently on low settings.
Many many people are having issues with the Elvie leaking . I use on the lowest on medela and the willow did well for me . Please refer to the links in the description box to the willow and their current specials
I ultimately decided to go with the elvie because I wanted to pump into containers...i tend to pump anywhere between 2-4 ounces each side. I thought that the bags would be way too expensive in the long run
Now a year later and pumping for baby number 2 I am thinking that the willow generation 3 would be nice because they have a container now but now I'm nervous about the higher suction
Great review! Just purchased the willow 2.0 after hours of review reading and deciding what’s best for me. Only question I have is I am a 21 mm flange size in Medela, willow only comes in 24 and 27 size options. Any tricks or tips to making it work better for smaller flange size? Or if it works ok regardless?
Hey momma shark i wanted to send this video to someone breastfeeding for the second time i came here from our elvie fb group but i cant find you on fb anymore so im going to try and send this!! Xoxo
Smallest flange size that Elvie sells is 21mm. However, when you buy the Elvie it only comes with sizes 24mm and 28mm. You have to buy the 21mm additionally, which comes under ‘Accessories’ on the Elvie website.
Hey, just wondering did the Elvie leak much when moving around?( I will be running around after 2 toddlers & cleaning while pumping) & is the app accurate when letting you know how close you are to your fill?
@@MommyShark thank you for reply, I'm in the uk and I've heard a lot about leaks, Elvie does not seem worth the money sadly! Wish willow would come to uk!!
@@josephinesmith2429 hi how much is it there? I tried to buy it this morning but it's gone right away. I even contacted my friend maybe can buy for me. Willow's bag is the flaw. I wish they'll changed it to something more convenient
@@marikarot the Elvie in uk is £450 for double pump, I think that converts to 595 dollars. Yeah the downfall is the bags for the willow but every review I've watched on UA-cam the willow seems more effective&better suction. Wish I would just have them both lol. I'll have to sell my organs because the price is crazyyy!!
Thank you for this video! I recently just bought the willow t found out my insurance cover part of the Elvie. So i may get the Elvie for at home use and the willow for when i go back to work. I do have a question can you lay down with either to pump? Can you bend over front wards with either pump with out milk going ever where?
Elvie and yet when I google I am finding dozens of people complaining of this ... and that they must sit perfectly still to minimise it. And that customer service has no solution.
Can I order the Elvie from the UK site and have it shipped to me in the US? It went out of stock so quickly and won’t be back in stock until March and if I don’t some how add an extra pumping session in during the week, I feel like I’m going to lose my supply
I have seen some ladies that were successful with that but others have had it kicked back because it was not FDA cleared at the time . You might be successful now , but you need someone to ship it to you from London or use a third party to do that
@@MommyShark do you know how much is it? I've heard the willow's suction is very strong & someone even had a nerve damage & unable to make milk/pump anymore. How's the bags working for u? I wish it didn't cost much.
The Willow app works fine on Android, but I hate my Willow because it's significantly more painful than my Spectra 😭 I'm hoping the Elvie is better but I really don't wanna spend another $500 on a pump I hate.
Thanks for this review!! Do you know how these pump’s suction compares to others? Like the Medela PISA or Spectra s1 or 2? Or BabyBuddha? Are they similar at all?
Thanks so much for making this video. It’s such a huge investment so I appreciate that you took the time to answer a bunch of questions about both pumps.
ahhhhhhh!! I NEED to get the Elvie double! Do you know when they will be available for purchase in the US? Can I order it in the UK and hav family send it to me and just use a converter for any plugging in?? How did you GET one!?? hahahahah
@@MommyShark Thank you for the estimate! I will sit tight and wait. I was going to do the liberty freemie because I dont want to do the willow bags but THIS SOLVES MY ISSUE! ha ! Last baby I would be able to pump 12-14 oz at a time so my only other question is do you think it would be pretty easy to change out the collection containers QUICKLY and slap it right back on the boob? The double one comes with 4 containers so I would have the pieces. So is it pretty easy? Thank you again!
Hi judy, I have a video that addresses suction power and how it compares to the Elvie and other conventional pumps Willow vs. Elvie vs. Medela vs. Spectra Suction Power and Output Comparison ua-cam.com/video/E9AjLl1wC9s/v-deo.html
I am pregnant with my fourth baby. I plan to exclusively pump and really need to be able to watch my other children as well as my two nieces and nephews and be able to move around. 1) can I exclusively pump with one of these? 2) which one do you recommend for that?
Anyone care to gift their extra hands free pump to a Mom In need? I have to switch to exclusively pumping and this would be amazing. Cannot afford that price point though :(
I've read some of the comments and It sounds to me as if the pros outweigh the cons for Willow. And cons outweigh the pros for the Elvie. Would you agree?
GottaLive&Love agreed. I thought paying for those bags would be ridiculous so I bought the Elvie. The app is useless so you never know your output until you take it out. I also thought the battery was terrible. I’ve heard the willow doesn’t leak and that’s all I could ask for. If I don’t leak everywhere driving etc I’ll pay anything. Still better than formula if I can help it!
Great review! Thank you! I'm torn between both still based on feedback from moms with overall output. However, the Elvie at least offers a 21mm flange option and the Willow does not. If the flange is too big, would this mean less output overall?
Anyone know the best time of year for promo codes or sales for Willow or Elvie? Right now they're about $50 off. Also the Willow website says that the reusable container should be replaced every 3 months, however that's quite expensive! Is that really necessary in your opinion?
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So would you recommend one over the other? After all that I was expecting you to say “and this one I’ve been using more...”
From what I’ve seen the suction depends on the person not the Elvie itself. Some women only used the default setting and was fine
Thanks for posting this! Im a first time mommy to be and im undecided on which one to purchase do you think storing milk for later use with the elvie would be more difficult?
New sub! Great vid. Which one offers the most upper body mobility? I have a back injury (I only express) and it’s a dreaded part of pumping to sit straight up or leak on my flange connection. Thank you for showing the full view of the product and battery life.
High five to all the mommies watching this video in the middle of the night, researching how to be an even better mommy. You are a great mother for being here! Hang in there and love that baby!
Thank you for the kind words, willow pump for sure is the one that will not leak for you whatever way you pump :) currently there s a sale , last day today . Please refer to my description box for a link straight to their website and the sale coupon
Thank you so much for comparing each pump!
Hello, I have read the Elvie leaks, did you have this experience?
I will get the statistics for you and post a video on how many women experienced leaking with the Elvie . Stay tuned
@@MommyShark did you post a video regarding women experiencing leaking? I also want to know how many woman experienced this?
No I didn’t yet . I will soon !
Great video but I’ve heard there is less mobility with Elvie because it can leak. Any experience with that? Also would’ve been good to mention you can reuse willow bags and for both pumps can use flange Inserts for those not 24 or 27 mm size
Jaimie Brady no experience with leaking but I didn’t use it enough to say . I prefer my willow for output
You can reuse willow bags?
amy Choulat yes you can in a limited capacity though
@@MommyShark I thought the Willow bags had to be cut in order to empty into a bottle -- how would you reuse one?
B Snow just posted a video on that in my channel!
Where can my daughter find it? she can't find it anywhere. Thanks!
It will be released this feb in the US
@@MommyShark Thank you so much!!!
Great video! I keep tossing up between the freemie liberty, willow and Elvie. I pumped 150ml (5 oz) per pump in 20 mins with medela for Bub 1. It seems like I would have to change bags every second with the willow (issues with air getting in as well?) or I would need to wear Elvie 24-7 due to its poor suction! Do you have any experience with freemie?? :)
Kbear S I do not really , I bought it previously and never tried them because they seemed so bulky and way too much work !
Kbear S I have fremmie liberty with closed system cups , and is low suction 😢. This is the reason I want the willow. But the willow is more big that fremmie cup
Hi kbear, I now have a video on suction power and comparing them to the conventional pumps . My channel also has a video on how you can reuse the willow bags Willow vs. Elvie vs. Medela vs. Spectra Suction Power and Output Comparison ua-cam.com/video/E9AjLl1wC9s/v-deo.html
I loved how organized your video is. Thank you girly.
Willow has a reusable container now that you can get instead of the bags.
Yes but the bags allow you to move even to sleep with it. With the container you have to be straight.
Thanks so much for making this video! I can tell you like each for different reasons and that's really helpful. I personally love how you answered as many questions as you could think of to the best of you ability. This video has been super helpful!
This was exactly what I needed! Thank you so much for the great information!
I appreciate your video and I want to add more info about the Elvie. During each session it doesn't remember the previous pumping setting so it starts at the default strength and needs to be adjusted every single time. Also, 1 to 2 minutes into the pumping session when the expression mode automatically changes, the pumping strength resets to the default strength and needs to be adjusted again (It's very odd). The volume sensor on the Elvie is not accurate for me 95% of the time which is annoying. The app has some issues. In the app, the timer is useless because it doesn't talk to the pump; the pump keeps pumping after the timer goes off and you do have to remember to manually set the timer before each pumping session. For some reason, when the app timer goes off, it is a silent alert, so sometimes I don't realize that the timer went off. I have to correct the volume on the app after every session because the sensor is always inaccurate. Lastly, although the Elvie is more quiet than the Willow, it is not silent (as advertised). For example, don't expect to go to lecture or go to a library without hearing a robotic sound coming from your bosom. I believe that the technology is still very new so maybe there is room for improvement. I feel that I need to constantly monitor that it hasn't paused itself and open my app to check that the suction strength hasn't changed on it's own. Note: at first, I did have a lower output with the Elvie (about 1 ounce less) than with the Spectra, however I believe that now the output is similar overall. I don't know if I would buy this pump if I had to make this decision again. Good luck!
Ya a los 15 minutos me pareció mejor el elvie principalmente por la bolsa que podrías usar la que te quede más cómodo y podrías llevar uno solo. Gracias por el video, saludos desde Argentina
I'd much rather pay $499 for this pump than the Willow once available in the US. At least you don't have to use 4oz bags and deal with terrible customer service that Willow offers. Can't wait until it's released in the US.
Same!! 50 cents a bag is ridiculous
You made an amazing review!! Thank you so much for all of the time, effort, and research you put into this video!!
Thank you for this review! A lot of great unbiased information.
Thank you so much for posting this. I've used the willow for the past year with my 2nd child which improved the entire experience SO MUCH compared to my first and was curious about how the elvie compares. The downsides of the willow for me are 1) its huge and not as quiet as they advertise, 2) has a serious learning curve and should have had a clear flange to start (they've fixed this in the 2.0 version but that seems like a basic concept they should have started with) and 3) only including one charger is ridiculous (seems like a money grab). The bags seemed expensive at first, but you can reuse them, and they're great for travel - super compact and 99% of the time TSA agents don't flag them. Most importantly though, I appreciate how much the willow changed my life - when I travel for work, instead of pumping for 20 minutes in an airport bathroom, I can now do it in the cab or on the plane, and even at home I can chase my toddler at the same time without bottles hanging from my chest.
Based on your review it's great that the elvie charges via USB and is smaller and quieter, but the lower output is definitely a concern. Sounds like neither is a perfect solution yet... but I really wanted to say I LOVE that there is real investment and innovation coming into the space - Medela has dominated the market for way too long with extremely subpar products and complete lack of innovation. I'm so happy there are companies out there trying to make life easier and better for moms, so thank you to both Willow and Elvie!!
Beautifully written !
How do you reuse the bags? They specifically say they can't be reused as they have to be cut open to get milk. Just bought the Willow so if there are tips and tricks to reusing the bags I'm super curious!!
Mark Laufenburger I have other videos on my channel with tips and tricks on the willow and one on re using the bags . Please let me know if you can’t find them
How do you e-use the bags?
@@musicsusi go watch her video on it. After the bag is empty, just throw that bad boy in the fridge!
Such an informative video . Thanks for explaining in detail ! 😁
I love your videos, I wish that I had found your channel in the beginning of my breastfeeding/pumping journey and long before I decided to buy the elvie. How many times do you pump a day and how many hours in between? I started off with over supply on both my breasts then got mastitis on my right and had a decrease ever since, I've been trying to get that to produce more milk ever since. Im currently 6 months pp, do you have any tips on increasing supply this late in the game? Also, have you ever heard of goats rue?
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I have not heard of goats rue but will look into it . In regards to increasing your supply , I have a video on that . There’s no harm in trying
Thanks for this video. I wanted to also add that the willow is really complicated to learn how to not get it to spill all over the place when you're done. It takes a while to learn how to get it to "gulp" the milk down at the end of the session. Also, each bag has a max 4 oz, but if the bag gets any air in it, then the capacity is even less. If you fill it to 4 oz from one breast, the gulping mechanism is a real mess.
I own the elvie, willow and the spectra and I actually get more milk with the elvie. again, phlange size matters. make sure you get the right size plange size for the elvie. my output with the elvie is 6oz a pump and with the spectra its 3-4 oz. the willow doesnt compare, I get about 1/2 - 1 oz per pump with the willow. also the elvie only takes 15-20 minutes for a full charge for me.
What? Really?! This is SO good to know. I want to buy the Elvie but everyone says you won't get as much out put as the Spectra.
@@sariahhersam4804 everyone is different. I cant get ANYTHING out with my spectra!
The Willow doesn't come with the 21mm flange. I reached out to their team of experts who said they don't recommend their breast pump if your nipples are smaller than the size of a dime. I'm sure this will have a negative impact on output if the flange is too big?!
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This is so good to know!! I’m more for the Elvie. After watching this video I was getting concerned but this tip really helps.
I’ve watched this video a lot over the past months! I was trying to conceive. With my first I gave up breastfeeding because it was getting hard to move around the house and go to work. I didn’t know much about breast milk and breast feeding. Since coming across this video I’ve seen many of other mommy shark videos that helped me get a better understanding of breast milk and exclusively pumping. Finally after some months I’m expecting baby #2! I did my research and saw there were 2 wearable pumps on the market. I couldn’t decide which one was better for me. After watching this video I believe that a more gentle cycle, slimmer fit and reusable container will help me out this time around. I think I will go with the Elvie! I’m so excited for it get closer to December to get this pump! I look forward to seeing more videos by Mommy Shark to educate myself more on exclusively pumping!!! 😁🍼
Please do an updated video on the efficiency of the elvie and if you had any leaking
Desiree Daniels there is leaking if you are not careful. This means not bending over much and making sure you check on the container occasionally since the app isn’t the very accurate.
Leakkkks everywhere when driving and what not. Hate this pump, I feel like I can’t move. I was paying for freedom and almost got less
Kimberly Espinoza haha you wanna sell it for cheap? If you don’t like it 🤪 haha I wanna try it but can’t swing the price tag
Rachel Gazaway I actually returned it to target! Thank god they just took it back so easily.
The pumps will work without WiFi or service on your phone correct? I'm guessing the app is just for convenience tracking but not necessary for function....
Correct ! :)
@@MommyShark I got the Elvie, I'm due in 3 weeks I'm so nervous that it will work for me because some people have problems. 😬😬😬
Hopefully it work ! Stay positive! Let me know how it goes
@@MommyShark Thank you I will!! 🙏
@@MommyShark Hi! First, I have the most adorable baby boy ever he is just perfect 😍 Brest feeding has gone as well as anyone could expect. He's 1 month and I tried my pump out for the first time, it was easy and I got a little over an ounce from each breast in about 10 minutes. I think I had one side on stronger suction though, maybe too high because one nipple came out like twice it's normal size😳😵 like Kylie Jenner lip challenge effect. Is that normal?! I don't I guess I'll just turn it down? When will that nipple go back to normal its wigging me out a little ....
I am a working GM in fast food given these are so big and heavy would I be able to walk around while using these now in my position I won’t be able to leave the floor every few hours to sit and pump taking time away from my team will these still work while on the move?
Yes they will work
Knala Keith similar situation. Did you decide which to purchase?
Stupid questions here I'm sure, but 1. Could you wear either of these after it is done for an additional 30 minutes or so if you had to? 2. Is either quiet enough that a room full of 35 15/16-year-olds wouldn't notice the sound even in a quiet room? As a teacher, I don't get lactation/pumping breaks so I need to know if this is an answer to my problems. Thanks.
You can hear it if theres complete silence you bn can hear the suction and milk dripping but the elvie is a flawed product still. I have it and am returning it for a refund because the suction mechanism on it decides when it's going to work and not work lol and I cant waste my breaks trying to make it work when I need the time to get a ample milk supply. Also Its law that you get breaks to pump you should really make a fuss about that
I have the Willow, but with the hassle of the bags can be a bit frustrating. I've always wondered how I'd like the Elvie. I make about 4oz every pump, so there's no way I can sacrifice for a lower powered pump. The bottle just seems so darn convenient because I can get all the fat out. The Willow bags can sometimes be tough to get all the fat out.
Caitlyn Lee I have the Elvie, and I’m going to try the willow. The app is terrible; you never know when you’ve reached your typical output. I also leaked everywhere. I tried it driving once and it was terrifying. Leaks everywhere. I’d rather pay for bags if I actually get the freedom of not leaking and what not.
I am moving more towards the elvie. Bags are way too expensive. It also seems Elvie is better on the nipple bs the willow. Thus, I must go with the Elvie. Hope I am making the right choice
You can check out my other video on suction powers to be very sure
Do these have to have the app to work? I can't have my phone in my workplace.
No you don’t need the app
Does the willow (or even the elvie) auto shut off/stop of you've reached max milk volume? I've heard they're very sensitive to liquid. I would hate to have a leak and ruin the whole.
Also, how comfortable (or uncomfortable) overall is the suction on the willow?
Yes same question! I have a super heavy supply and I can pump 6-8 oz on each side for each session! I would hate to over fill and have it leak out everywhere!
@@rachelgazaway2840 I asked this question on another video too and the answer was yes
I am an over producer...like 10-15 Oz out of each breast per pumping session...I obviously know I would need to take it out of my bra and empty during sessions, but at least I’m not stuck on my couch for 45 min!
That being said...which would you recommend for an overproducer...I was thinking Elvie because the bottles would be super easy to just switch out mid-pump, but the suction power had me concerned!!! Any comparison you can give to the Madeline PISA? I usually had mid-high on there.
Very good review, but the only thing I'm missing is which one is your favorite?
Willow !
Thanks for the video. I'm just wondering about the weight of the Elvie, is it really practical to walk around etc whilst wearing it or is it too weighty? Thanks.
Elvie is very light actually :)
@@MommyShark Excellent, thanks for getting back to me.
Thanks for this excellent review. I’m based in Australia and need one for mobility. Neither models are available in Australia so I need to go on reviews like yours prior to purchasing. Thank you so much!
Not a fan of the willow... Worst investment I ever made.
What were your cons?
Thanks for putting them on at the end! I really needed to see how they look on someone. I'm not sure if I would look ridiculous in them. I'm definitely looking into the Elvie since it is smaller in size.
I’m your personal opinion, which would be better for a server/waitress? Your video is as very helpful but I’m even more torn from efficiency vs quietness. I work in a high end restaurant in Washington DC and I’m going back to work soon. In order for me to keep pumping I’ll have to use either or of these pumps. It’s impossible to take 30/40 min breaks every 3 hours to pump realistically. Also which of the pumps is less revealing with a square cut shirt on. It’s not low cut but our uniform does shoe my chest (not cleavage).
Using the willow under your clothes , will barely create any noise . The white noise in the restaurant will drown out the willow in my opinion. I will update coupon codes in description box once available
Also, I'm curious as to what size your chest is naturally? Sorry if TMI, but i'm a 40G after pregnancy (started 34DD/D) so I'm nervous it's going to look RIDICULOUS and I'll just sit at home with these, defeating the purpose.
I’m 34D
Hi mama shark! I am debating about getting the willow. The reason I want it is because I feel like all I do is pump (since I went back to work by baby won't nurse so I'm pumping exclusively. He is 4 months). The willow is very appealing in that you can wear it and clean, do laundry, go out in public, etc. My question is: is it easy to wear and do things around the house, bending up and down, raising your arm to grab stuff? It is expensive so i want to make sure it will be worth it!
Yes ! It’s very worth it . I would wait for Black Friday sale , check back and I will update all the codes in the description box
One major complaint I hear about Elvie is leaking/pump dying and the customer service is horrible (according to these ladies). Willow customer service is phenomenal and I can say though I don't own either (yet) I still haven't heard back from Elvie with my questions but Willow sent a follow up email to their Instagram response. I really, really dislike the waste of disposable bags though and Elvie DOES sound quieter, so I keep going back and forth.
Elvie s customer service truly does suck !
So one that can (and usually will) affect your output is the flange size. If its too big or too small, you usually don't get as much milk. The last time I looked at the Willow their smallest flange size was 24mm whereas the Elvie's smallest size was 21mm (although you do have to purchase them separately). Aside from everything else, I would need the Elvie just for the flange size alone so I would just kind of keep that in mind when you're comparing the two.
You would be happy to know that willow does have a 21mm , if you re using the container ! Also, if not using the container , there are many inserts that can used to get you the 21mm sizing :)
500 is so much 😫but I’m deff gonna invest as an exclusive pumper it’s sooo worth it
Very worth it as an exclusive pumper
Would you say one is better for 1st time mom's or are they both about the same?
I use the Medela symphony and wanted to get one of these. I'm not sure which to get. I use the symphony at about half suction. I like the idea of the elvie more but I'm a really low supplier and don't know if that affects each pump
You need to be emptied properly at each pump in order to not lose your supply . So if you re a person that needs more of a stronger suction , willow is for you . If you respond to light suction , Elvie will work for you
the price is a huge factor for me.. i like the fact that i can choose to buy just one pump with the elvie.. for half the cost of the 2 willow pumps. sorry if you discuss this but i just started the video. also, i'm not a fan of the bags. haven't seen the full review so far but i'm definitely going with the elvie for price alone.
Willow now has a reusable container , link in description box with code to get it for free with purchase of willow 2.0
Do either of them come with a smaller flange? I need size 17mm and I know it's not easy to find that size for most pumps. Would it work for me with a bigger flange?
Yes , willow 2.0 has a 21mm and you can always use inserts which shrink the size of the insert
If you produce more than 4oz from each boob per pump session, you have to keep emptying and changing the bags?
Sophia yes with the willow only fits up to 4oz where the Elvis stops at 5oz.
I use the willow make my nipple was bleeding what should i do, did i do some thing wrong? Any suggestion to help me.
pa yang there is a Facebook page for willow user. Definitely join it
Thanks for this excellent review. Any tips where could I buy the Elvie pump besides there original website. I have been waiting list in their websites for one month still no luck!!
Yes, there’s many women selling their Elvie on our Facebook group . Once you join search the group or head to our albums where they re posted m.facebook.com/groups/1866174886824859?ref=share
I've seen in on the target website. Sorry I know this post is old.
try target, they let you return vs the actual website that doest accept returns
Hey there! If I am smaller busted and technically don’t measure out to even use the willow- what would you recommend?
You can buy inserts that reduce the sizing for you and their container comes at 21mm, you can size down even more with inserts
What pump do you recommend for first time mommies? I don’t want to give up but I want to know which one will be best for me.
the medela freestyle is an amazing one in my opinion, its small and not as loud as the other pumps. also, its small and portable so you arent stuck to a wall for 20-30 mins. :)
Thank you for this video!! I loved that it was really practical. I came here to learn what the Willow was like to clean but ended up learning a lot more. Thanks!
thank you for the app comparison here! I was curious what they looked like!
I’m glad it helped !!
Thank you!!!
I always pumped 6-8 ounces from each breast in 15 mins with my medela.... as a working mom that was super important for us and it was covered by insurance
Lol oops posted under my 17 yr old sons account
Xavier Guisinger which would you use??
Does the Elvie leak ?
Yes!
Thanks for this video
I just subscribed to your channel you are what I need now. Specially because you keep giving updates for videos. I mean that's totally what happened in real life. First impression but after awhile I have a second opinion. Thank you again.
I’m sorry , not sure I understand what you mean ? :)
@@MommyShark usually ppl make videos for the first months of use. Which mostly will be a good experience but after all the excitement gone its hard to find a person who will make another video about the true experience, problems and how to solve it and my best favourite thing is the comparison between different types of pumps 😍👌❤
Does the willow leak if you pump lying down? Can you pump lying down?
No it does not
Thanks for the review
Which one do u like better?
I also wanted to know, can you flip the bag out like you did for the willow 1.0 with the 2.0?
Yes
Your volume is too quiet on the video I can barely hear you
I have worked on that in my newer videos , thanks for the feedback
Thank you so much for the video. I am a physical therapist and I am looking at something that will not leak. What would your recommendations be? Also, I use the medela Currently on low settings.
Many many people are having issues with the Elvie leaking . I use on the lowest on medela and the willow did well for me . Please refer to the links in the description box to the willow and their current specials
Thank you Mommy Shark!
Are the Willow bags reusable?
Check these videos out ua-cam.com/video/T-45y_GfnjQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/IsgIZyqGf8g/v-deo.html
Which one is more like the hospital grade medela?
Suction wise and rhythms
I ultimately decided to go with the elvie because I wanted to pump into containers...i tend to pump anywhere between 2-4 ounces each side. I thought that the bags would be way too expensive in the long run
Now a year later and pumping for baby number 2 I am thinking that the willow generation 3 would be nice because they have a container now but now I'm nervous about the higher suction
@@jenniferlambrecht2245 are you dissatisfied with the Elvie?? I am about to purchase it and just wanted to know your experience.
Very happy and the customer service is top notch. I have gotten a few valves replaced as well as breast shields under warranty
I also used this pump with 2 separate pregnancies and 2 different breast feeding journeys
Why don’t people say it’s loud or not!!!! Ugh!!!
They are pretty quiet
Did you have to buy bigger bras for when using these pumps?
Nope ! Same but they got stretched out
Great review! Just purchased the willow 2.0 after hours of review reading and deciding what’s best for me. Only question I have is I am a 21 mm flange size in Medela, willow only comes in 24 and 27 size options. Any tricks or tips to making it work better for smaller flange size? Or if it works ok regardless?
I’ll create a video on that :) I can say that maybe inserts can help you
That would be great! Thanks for sharing your videos!
Would love to see that as well, hesitant to invest in the willow when they don’t make 21s!
Renae Keggi are you able to reuse the bags for the 2.0 like the 1.0?
Overall would you Over the willow 1.0 over the 2.0
Willow 2.0 for sure
Hey momma shark i wanted to send this video to someone breastfeeding for the second time i came here from our elvie fb group but i cant find you on fb anymore so im going to try and send this!! Xoxo
Here you go , give her this link ua-cam.com/video/heqXpgFbVUs/v-deo.html
Any idea what the smallest size flange available for either pump is? I use 15mm with my medela/spectra.
They definitely do not come in box with pump. Smallest in box is 24mm, they might sell them separately though
Smallest flange size that Elvie sells is 21mm. However, when you buy the Elvie it only comes with sizes 24mm and 28mm. You have to buy the 21mm additionally, which comes under ‘Accessories’ on the Elvie website.
Hey, just wondering did the Elvie leak much when moving around?( I will be running around after 2 toddlers & cleaning while pumping) & is the app accurate when letting you know how close you are to your fill?
In regards to leaking , not sure since I only used it sitting down . For the app, not it was not accurate unfortunately
@@MommyShark thank you for reply, I'm in the uk and I've heard a lot about leaks, Elvie does not seem worth the money sadly! Wish willow would come to uk!!
@@josephinesmith2429 hi how much is it there? I tried to buy it this morning but it's gone right away. I even contacted my friend maybe can buy for me. Willow's bag is the flaw. I wish they'll changed it to something more convenient
@@marikarot the Elvie in uk is £450 for double pump, I think that converts to 595 dollars. Yeah the downfall is the bags for the willow but every review I've watched on UA-cam the willow seems more effective&better suction. Wish I would just have them both lol. I'll have to sell my organs because the price is crazyyy!!
Thank you for this video! I recently just bought the willow t found out my insurance cover part of the Elvie. So i may get the Elvie for at home use and the willow for when i go back to work. I do have a question can you lay down with either to pump? Can you bend over front wards with either pump with out milk going ever where?
Yes only with willow and bags . Willow and container will leak
Thank you very much! Definitely will be purchasing the willow 😊
What insurance do you have?!
I wish they weren’t so expensive. My insurance won’t cover either. Did elvie ever leak on you?
Karri Allen I wouldn’t say I used it long enough to know at this point . I heard from a few people that it does leak
@@MommyShark the Elvie Pump once fitted correctly and held upright in a nursing bra won't leak :-)
Elvie and yet when I google I am finding dozens of people complaining of this ... and that they must sit perfectly still to minimise it. And that customer service has no solution.
Does these pump fit for all breast sizes?
Yes they should
Can I order the Elvie from the UK site and have it shipped to me in the US? It went out of stock so quickly and won’t be back in stock until March and if I don’t some how add an extra pumping session in during the week, I feel like I’m going to lose my supply
I have seen some ladies that were successful with that but others have had it kicked back because it was not FDA cleared at the time . You might be successful now , but you need someone to ship it to you from London or use a third party to do that
I just tried to order this morning & the site kept crashing. It's gone like a lightning! So it's more expensive in the UK?
Yes it is , unless they changed the price recently
@@MommyShark do you know how much is it? I've heard the willow's suction is very strong & someone even had a nerve damage & unable to make milk/pump anymore. How's the bags working for u? I wish it didn't cost much.
Hey girlfriend
Did you ever feel the willow pinched you when you pump?
It’s more of a sucking , there’s no random pinching . Its only at the beginning too just as it grabs the nipple
@@MommyShark
Oh I might be latching wrong then. :/
Thanks for the video. I heard the Willow app only works on Apple devices (not Android). Does the Elvie app work on Android?
The Willow app works fine on Android, but I hate my Willow because it's significantly more painful than my Spectra 😭 I'm hoping the Elvie is better but I really don't wanna spend another $500 on a pump I hate.
Overall, if you had to choose, which would you purchase?
Samantha Gambill the willow !
@@MommyShark mostly because of output?
Samantha Gambill yes ! :)
Thanks for this review!! Do you know how these pump’s suction compares to others? Like the Medela PISA or Spectra s1 or 2? Or BabyBuddha? Are they similar at all?
Melissa will post a video on that soon 😬
Here’s the suction comparison Willow vs. Elvie vs. Medela vs. Spectra Suction Power and Output Comparison ua-cam.com/video/E9AjLl1wC9s/v-deo.html
Thanks!
Thanks so much for making this video. It’s such a huge investment so I appreciate that you took the time to answer a bunch of questions about both pumps.
ahhhhhhh!! I NEED to get the Elvie double! Do you know when they will be available for purchase in the US? Can I order it in the UK and hav family send it to me and just use a converter for any plugging in?? How did you GET one!?? hahahahah
BrynjaLives it’ll be available next month !! I would wait since it’s only 2 weeks away and it ll be sold a lot cheaper here
@@MommyShark Thank you for the estimate! I will sit tight and wait. I was going to do the liberty freemie because I dont want to do the willow bags but THIS SOLVES MY ISSUE! ha ! Last baby I would be able to pump 12-14 oz at a time so my only other question is do you think it would be pretty easy to change out the collection containers QUICKLY and slap it right back on the boob? The double one comes with 4 containers so I would have the pieces. So is it pretty easy? Thank you again!
@@MommyShark do you know which retailers it will b available in US?
Harbir Deol they have not announced yet unfortunately
Just to clarify, this video depicts the original Willow, right? Not the Willow 2.0?
That’s correct ! I will be getting the 2.0 soon and will post a comparison video on that
Have you tried the Willow 2.0 or know anything about the changes from the 1.0? Thanks so much!
I will soon be releasing a comparison video on that !
It’s a clear flange and the connection from the flange to the pump clicks I’m rather than loosely attaching.
I would love to try out the Elvie hopefully I can get it shipped to the us...
I’m currently using the Spectra S2 and I’m wondering how the suction power compares. I pump out 4-5oz per breast in a 30 min session every 4 hours.
Hi judy, I have a video that addresses suction power and how it compares to the Elvie and other conventional pumps Willow vs. Elvie vs. Medela vs. Spectra Suction Power and Output Comparison ua-cam.com/video/E9AjLl1wC9s/v-deo.html
I am pregnant with my fourth baby. I plan to exclusively pump and really need to be able to watch my other children as well as my two nieces and nephews and be able to move around. 1) can I exclusively pump with one of these? 2) which one do you recommend for that?
Anyone care to gift their extra hands free pump to a Mom In need? I have to switch to exclusively pumping and this would be amazing. Cannot afford that price point though :(
SO HELPFUL!!! Thank you so much for making this!!
Thanks for such a great comparison video!
I've read some of the comments and It sounds to me as if the pros outweigh the cons for Willow. And cons outweigh the pros for the Elvie. Would you agree?
GottaLive&Love agreed. I thought paying for those bags would be ridiculous so I bought the Elvie. The app is useless so you never know your output until you take it out. I also thought the battery was terrible. I’ve heard the willow doesn’t leak and that’s all I could ask for. If I don’t leak everywhere driving etc I’ll pay anything. Still better than formula if I can help it!
Great review! Thank you! I'm torn between both still based on feedback from moms with overall output. However, the Elvie at least offers a 21mm flange option and the Willow does not. If the flange is too big, would this mean less output overall?
Yes , you need to make sure you have the correct flange sizing !
Anyone know the best time of year for promo codes or sales for Willow or Elvie? Right now they're about $50 off.
Also the Willow website says that the reusable container should be replaced every 3 months, however that's quite expensive! Is that really necessary in your opinion?
I always update the codes in my description , best time of the year is Black Friday . And no it’s not necessary