As an Arizona native who has lived overseas for over 20 years, a veteran and with Native American blood, your videos take me right back home. People always ask what I miss the most and I always answer “the smell of rain.” They look at me like I’m a nutter. I’ve been in New Zealand for over 15 years now and there is some amazing clay here. Unlike Arizona, I have to spread it out and let it dry before I can process it. Thank you for letting an old gal have a taste of home again.
My wife and I have visited many ancient sites over the last 5 years and always marveled at the pottery sherds. By watching your videos the last couple years I am finally starting to understand some of what we saw at the sites. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!! Love your videos!!
Just incredible, as a Brit we know almost next to nothing about precolonial American history. That yellow is so vibrant even though it's been exposed to the elements for centuries. Just wow!
I loved seeing this . I found some beautiful pottery pieces , white sherds with thin black lines in geometrical designs in a beanfield in Dove Creek , Colorado . A few years later , I found an almost identical piece a few yards from the Pecos river in San Jose , New Mexico . They were beautiful and I still have them . I've lived all over that area , it's so magical how much ancient stuff you find and even more ancient , the geology , etc. Thank you !
I so appreciate your love of history and viewing it through the lens of pottery. Your enthusiasm is infectious. I and love that it's so focused on Native American history! I'm curious about the sources you use to learn about the info on the trade? Do you have books/podcasts/websites or anything that you recommend?
Thank you for the encouragement. I read a lot of dry archaeological reports, so it might be hard to make a reading list that anyone would appreciate. Here are a few online resources related to this subject swvirtualmuseum.nau.edu/wp/index.php/artifacts/pottery/jeddito-yellow-ware/ statemuseum.arizona.edu/online-exhibit/curators-choice/jeddito-black-yellow-bowl www.researchgate.net/publication/233589338_Ceramic_Distribution_and_Exchange_Jeddito_Yellow_Ware_and_Implications_for_Social_Complexity Enjoy!
Man, I just discovered your videos after spending a week with my 12 yo son at Aztec ruins, Cedar Mesa back country, and Zuni Pueblo. Isn't the Edge of Cedars museum a little gem? Keep up the great work!
I surveyed parts of the Crook Trail/Road from Strawberry to Cottonwood for ADOT. The road wound its way back and forth under the modern highway. We felt that there was a good case for the Crook Trail paralleling the Hopi route as indicated by the trail of yelloware sherds along most of the way until the Rim. Not sure how that information was synthesized later. We weren't doing research for ADOT, and were already guilty of not a little 'mission creep' looking outside of our transects.
I tested the clay from under the sandstone cap below Homolovi II in 1991 at 700c. Additionally, while surveying for the UofA Homolovi project, I found a coal seam very close by that was verified by two UofA geologists. The sample was convincing enough that Dr. Charles Adams felt there was a strong possibility that a moderate amount of Hopi Jeddito style yelloware was produced on the site. I can't remember if that info was published.
I have never read that, very interesting. That info would turn the current thinking about Hopi yellow ware on its head. I was able to observe and measure three coal firings at Hopi in 2021 and the temps never reached over 950 C. I can hit 950 with a wood firing, so I am wondering if the secret to Hopi yellow ware isn't so much the coal but the clay. I would love to do some experiments with this some day if I can ever get my hands on enough Hopi clay.
Always interesting and credible. The video helps bring the past into context. No doubt trade, demand, & competition acted as a motivator to make better and more appealing pottery. I wonder what a pot was worth 700 years ago?
Curious where you were able to acquire the paper version of the 'Historical Trails of Arizona'? I searched AZ state parks web site and no luck. Been watching your videos starting from the beginning. Learning a wealth of information about native pottery. Thanks for sharing.
I think it's interesting to go to a ruin and see what was being traded in, sherds can tell us so much. For what ever reason Perry Mesa has a lot of yellow ware, I always wondered what was being traded back. The Sinagua seemed to love Yellow ware, I assumed agriculture was traded as the area wad so fertile, but I'm not even sure that was logistically feasible???? Great video Andy, I haven't been to Chavez Pass in 25 years. I'm not sure where you get your energy lol 😆
My theory is all the abondoned sites were because they ran out of wood they used so much of it in cooking for fire for firing pottery building structures cremations etc especially in the salt river valley and gila river valleys
I think that is often true. Even today at Homolovi there are no trees in sight so I always wonder what they burned for fuel there. Maybe driftwood from the river?
I love how you distribute your videos between practical advice and historical explorations. You have expanded my world in the best sense.
Thanks, that's just me doing what I love. I'm just glad that other people enjoy the same things enough to watch the videos.
well said!
As an Arizona native who has lived overseas for over 20 years, a veteran and with Native American blood, your videos take me right back home. People always ask what I miss the most and I always answer “the smell of rain.” They look at me like I’m a nutter. I’ve been in New Zealand for over 15 years now and there is some amazing clay here. Unlike Arizona, I have to spread it out and let it dry before I can process it. Thank you for letting an old gal have a taste of home again.
You are so welcome. Glad to bring a little Arizona to you.
My wife and I have visited many ancient sites over the last 5 years and always marveled at the pottery sherds. By watching your videos the last couple years I am finally starting to understand some of what we saw at the sites. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!! Love your videos!!
Thanks Marc, I am so glad to help you better understand the past.
Just incredible, as a Brit we know almost next to nothing about precolonial American history. That yellow is so vibrant even though it's been exposed to the elements for centuries. Just wow!
Surprisingly, Americans know pretty little about precolonial history too. That Hopi yellow ware is outstanding stuff, glad you liked it.
You don’t know because you never asked them!
Great video, as always. Your wanderings always make me wish I was out there too, walking the desert and piecing together ancient clues.
Maybe some day we can walk across the desert together. Thanks, I am glad you enjoyed it.
@@AncientPottery If I'm ever headed to your area I'll be sure to reach out and see if that can happen!
I loved seeing this . I found some beautiful pottery pieces , white sherds with thin black lines in geometrical designs in a beanfield in Dove Creek , Colorado . A few years later , I found an almost identical piece a few yards from the Pecos river in San Jose , New Mexico . They were beautiful and I still have them . I've lived all over that area , it's so magical how much ancient stuff you find and even more ancient , the geology , etc. Thank you !
Nice, the ancient sherds are endlessly fascinating aren't they?
Baby cows!! Sorry got distracted!🤣 love the look of the yellow ware, and learning about a extensive trade route!
Yes, it's all about the baby cows really.
I am so thankful that you are able to create these videos. That terrain would kill my ankles. Great content and music. Well done.
I appreciate that, glad to allow you to hike vicariously through me.
Such a beautiful place.....
And your explanation 👍
Keep it up...
Thanks a lot 😊
oh my GOD this is so cool thanks for sharing this Andy.
My pleasure!
Just as good watching this a 2nd time. Thanks
Thanks, fun video to make, I wish it had received more views though.
I so appreciate your love of history and viewing it through the lens of pottery. Your enthusiasm is infectious. I and love that it's so focused on Native American history! I'm curious about the sources you use to learn about the info on the trade? Do you have books/podcasts/websites or anything that you recommend?
Thank you for the encouragement. I read a lot of dry archaeological reports, so it might be hard to make a reading list that anyone would appreciate. Here are a few online resources related to this subject swvirtualmuseum.nau.edu/wp/index.php/artifacts/pottery/jeddito-yellow-ware/
statemuseum.arizona.edu/online-exhibit/curators-choice/jeddito-black-yellow-bowl
www.researchgate.net/publication/233589338_Ceramic_Distribution_and_Exchange_Jeddito_Yellow_Ware_and_Implications_for_Social_Complexity
Enjoy!
@@AncientPottery Thank you!
Thanks Andy. I appreciate the information. I'm interested in how the information continues to become available.
Yes, always learning a little but more. Thanks!
Man, I just discovered your videos after spending a week with my 12 yo son at Aztec ruins, Cedar Mesa back country, and Zuni Pueblo. Isn't the Edge of Cedars museum a little gem? Keep up the great work!
Awesome. Yes, I love Edge of the Cedars, I am going there in September for the Southwest Kiln Conference.
Yet another great concise video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
I surveyed parts of the Crook Trail/Road from Strawberry to Cottonwood for ADOT. The road wound its way back and forth under the modern highway. We felt that there was a good case for the Crook Trail paralleling the Hopi route as indicated by the trail of yelloware sherds along most of the way until the Rim. Not sure how that information was synthesized later. We weren't doing research for ADOT, and were already guilty of not a little 'mission creep' looking outside of our transects.
I'll bet that was a fun job, lots of beautiful country up there.
Very interesting
Thanks, this was a very under-appreciated video
I think its nice that they traded for different ceramics even tho they were capable of making their own
I tested the clay from under the sandstone cap below Homolovi II in 1991 at 700c. Additionally, while surveying for the UofA Homolovi project, I found a coal seam very close by that was verified by two UofA geologists. The sample was convincing enough that Dr. Charles Adams felt there was a strong possibility that a moderate amount of Hopi Jeddito style yelloware was produced on the site. I can't remember if that info was published.
I have never read that, very interesting. That info would turn the current thinking about Hopi yellow ware on its head. I was able to observe and measure three coal firings at Hopi in 2021 and the temps never reached over 950 C. I can hit 950 with a wood firing, so I am wondering if the secret to Hopi yellow ware isn't so much the coal but the clay. I would love to do some experiments with this some day if I can ever get my hands on enough Hopi clay.
Thanks for a great video....
My pleasure!
How do more people not watch your videos? I’ve learned so much from you!
That's what I'm saying. Like and Share, thanks.
Great job!!.. keep up the great work..I'm learning a ton!!
Thanks, will do!
Always interesting and credible. The video helps bring the past into context. No doubt trade, demand, & competition acted as a motivator to make better and more appealing pottery. I wonder what a pot was worth 700 years ago?
Thanks Wes.
Was the pottery brought for trade all transported by people on foot?
Yes, no beasts of burden and no wheels meant that everything was carried on people's backs.
Great video, yet again. Could you do a video explaining coal fired pots. Have you tried this yourself. Can this be achieved in a pit or in the open.
I would love to do that. I have never coal fired pottery but I have a friend who has, he fires in the open.
I might give it a go myself. Do you think with the aid of a blower that it could get to low fire glaze temperatures?
Curious where you were able to acquire the paper version of the 'Historical Trails of Arizona'? I searched AZ state parks web site and no luck. Been watching your videos starting from the beginning. Learning a wealth of information about native pottery. Thanks for sharing.
At about 7:00, that yellow sherd, looked chord-marked or roughened? Great video and scenery.
Yeah, I think it was corrugated.
I think it's interesting to go to a ruin and see what was being traded in, sherds can tell us so much. For what ever reason Perry Mesa has a lot of yellow ware, I always wondered what was being traded back. The Sinagua seemed to love Yellow ware, I assumed agriculture was traded as the area wad so fertile, but I'm not even sure that was logistically feasible???? Great video Andy, I haven't been to Chavez Pass in 25 years. I'm not sure where you get your energy lol 😆
Thanks. I am motivated by pottery
My theory is all the abondoned sites were because they ran out of wood they used so much of it in cooking for fire for firing pottery building structures cremations etc especially in the salt river valley and gila river valleys
I think that is often true. Even today at Homolovi there are no trees in sight so I always wonder what they burned for fuel there. Maybe driftwood from the river?
Are there many surviving examples of original works. If so, are they expensive to acquire?
Yes, look on ebay, they tend to be pricey
Have you spent time in tuba city?
Not really. I’ve driven through there many times though.
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We need to get acquainted andy
Okay. send me an email using the form on my website ancientpottery.how/contact-us/
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