I poked a lot of smot in the 70's listening to this and Gentle Giant and I loved it then. Now with a clear head I can hear subtle nuances, notes, and tones that I missed back then. This music is timeless. Youth is wasted on the young....
I (plus family) attended the Buxton concert just before Christmas 2006 and it was BRILLIANT. Got or photos taken with Ken & then with Maddy..... My wife even got the WINTER CD autographed by Rick.....
from 74? 36 years ago and that music made my soul sing happy.All the good musics we became open to.. wow.. I am glad to have been apart of it and still am,.
well, the Bass player in the clip is Mark Williamson, who is an old friend of Drummer Nigel Pegrums. Mark now lives in Nashville and Nigel now lives in Australia.
I can't do anything about how Steeleye Span performed the song. The video is almost 20 years old and you won't find it anywhere else, so if the sound is not perfect, I am sorry, but it is what it is.
Without this playlist going in the background, I wouldn't have been able to summon up the vim and vigor to work on my resumes this evening! Spirit fuel. Thank gracious for S.S.. ;)
TOM: I was born in England and raised there for a while. Have lived on both sides of the 'pond' and also in the USA and Mexico for extended periods. My wife and family are old stock Canadian (UCL) and I am a proud citizen of that Dominion: 'British by birth, Canadian by choice'. That being said, all citizens of Canada (and the REAL commonwealth nations) are subjects of Her Majesty, while being citizens of Canada and even immigrants make oaths to that order.
Nigel Pegrum lives in Australia. I saw his name on CD's as producer of abo/folk/rock music - I like to think it was him on the rock drums. I was tempted but was short of cash. Try Google for more.
Ramon333 Yes, it's called 'Ups and Downs' and is on the Parcel of Rogues CD. I kinda wonder if it isn't a mis-hearing of Epson Downs - the race track in Ireland.
Tom, you asked I answered. I hold three degrees in History, including a post graduate in Modern (post Classical) history. So, I am fine on the facts thanks. Canada is a confederated Dominion. Canadians are subjects of the Crown. There is no option in that - regardless of what makes Americans (or ex patriots) feel comfortable about their early history. Canadian and their loyal American allies stood against Washington and his rebellion; many of latter settled here.
I hope you're correct about Jackson. My experience with American students, tourists, and military buddies is that they were very sad over the loss of 'the King of Pop'... I am truly glad to hear a sensible opinion on him from south of the 49th. I should not have compared him to Maj. Washington, you are 100% correct on that. But, you are incorrect assuming the reasons I dislike him (ie sides) , and this forum is not appropriate or big enough to explain it properly.
@Taylor510ceL9 , man, I would give my firstborn to see Steeleye Span at PFF, but they were before my time. It always amazes me how much unassuming spirit they have, their rich knowledge of traditional music, and how they can 'cover' any traditional song and make it really interesting!
RatherLargeAllan, No argument there. I was about 25 when I tasted my first Guiness and had an epiphany: Americans had been getting screwed by American brewers for about a century.
Bob Johnson was replaced as guitarist by Ken Nicol in 2002 due to bad health. Ken is a worthy replacement & has helped breath live back into the band - hes also great to talk to. Rick Kemp is back on base (every tour he claims it will be his last but.....). Have tickets for early May.....
@Pangael -Just heard an English brewer is selling a beer at 41% p/v called "Sink the Bismarck". That's as strong as a whisky! Wonder if they sell it in pints.
Bob Johnson is on guitar next to Peter Knight. I can't place the bass player although a couple did play with Steeleye between Rick Kemp leaving and Tim Harries joining
Just as you have NOI and Communist Americans, we have republican and separatists in Canada. But even though a communist in the USA may hate the Jeffersonian Republic and despise the Presidency, he is still American and subject to her rules, laws, and traditions. He can disavow all he wants, but he is not the rule, he is the exception . The same is true of us - and this is a Constitutional Monarchy, whether some Canadians prefer to think so or not.
I would give my left one to be annoyed by steeleye span. Saw them 30 years ago and they haven't been back since...Please, please someone book them in the U.S. Please!
Tom - Canada is an independent Dominion. A Dominion divided into provinces, and is a Constitutional Monarchy. We share a monarch with the UK, and that makes us all Subjects of the crown- PERIOD. Proud Canadians are proud of Canada. There are people in Canada who want not part of that; They are called separatists. Or they move to the States. You have them in your country as well in many forms. There is not enough room here to respond to the rest of your comments. So will break it up..
I used to 'torture' my roomates playing 'span wearing headphones, but turned up so loudly that it could be heard in the room anyway... Never got the chance to see them...:(
I have to confess that I don't know the bass player, and the program doesn't name the band members individually. I want to upload anothe De Dannan clip, and then I will look for another Steeleye clip.
The largest campaigns in the Colonial period were against the Acadian (French). The groups of British regulars who saw most action were Yankee. Their dead are memorialised in places like Quebec City and Louisbourg. Men like Ben Frankiln spurred them on. I hope you are correct about Mr Jackson. Perhaps Mr Obama would have been a better example, but there are myriads of them aren't there ;) Re: British campaigns...can you name ONE that was not retaliatory? Why don't YOU back your points?
guinness is only about 4% alcohol...stout , i think refers more to the color and density than to alcohol... content or flavor...try russian imperial stout ...
lol.....maddy is playing a very simple set of .....spoons........all you need is.. two spoons....then off you go.....the irish play them very well too! lol
+Larry Joba Good man!. If you come back I would advise that you never, ever, refer to Leith as a suburb. Leith used to be a town in its own right and I know some Leithers who still refuse to accept that it is now part of Edinburgh.
My arguments were made in the face of a rhetorical attack on my people and culture. They were deliberately inflammatory and almost entirely reciprocal. I did not attempt to make any such points re:'THEREFORE'. They are there in B&W for all to see. I stated the nature of our governance, and a brief account of why we are that way. Don't take my word for it - look it up. As for my credentials, they are relevant and introductory. I will attempt to clarify my last point regarding comfort...cntd
I suppose the most obvious and famous example in post colonial America of genocidal tactics against natives would be what is know to the Cherokee as the 'Trail of Tears' in the 19th century. Is that the one you wanted to were thinking of?
So, to my Canadian eyes there is no room for interpretation on Washington. His revolution displaced, dispossessed, and killed the ancestors of almost a third of modern Canadians. He may be a hero to modern Americans, but then so was Michael Jackson - cult of personality. But you are correct: It was intentionally inflammatory...and I apologize if I offended. The Bonapartist references are historical references to the changes in US policy and Law under Napoleon's Quisling, Madison.
Or you could go and have a nice cold tasteless Budweiser, or is that actually a decent Czech beer? Sit and watch TV and eat oversized fat burgers!! Live the American Dream!!
It was a gross (mis)use of force to use genocidal military tactics against tribal peoples, for a single example. Imperial ambitions: Manifest destiny, the Westward expansion into Mexican territories, Banana Republics, the containment policy, 'Leader's of the Free World' and the list goes on... Fervour? Look at the Capital or Mt Rushmore. Bonaparte was at least honest and naked in his ambitions, American politicians hid behind Liberty's skirts. Rhetoric aside the ambitions were similar.
Well, at lest the rest of us on this page can spell and use punctuation properly. If I take your meaning correctly, it seems you despise the USA almost as much as you do the UK. So, trying to sell yourself as an American patriot falls kind of flat, ATF. Again, your arguments make no sense and are contradictory. Why not take this idea of yours onto Yahoo or Paltalk? you'd fit right in ;)
This was my FIRST Steeleye Span song and "Parcel of Rogues" was my first Steeleye Span album. It's wonderful to relive it again and again.
Greetings from 2022. I had the exact same experience. Still a favorite.
The solo at the end of the song is ''Flowers of Edinburgh'', a Scottish Country Dance tune.
Im 33 and when i was a kid my father loved Steeleye Span, we would sing all of the songs in the car hehe
I poked a lot of smot in the 70's listening to this and Gentle Giant and I loved it then. Now with a clear head I can hear subtle nuances, notes, and tones that I missed back then. This music is timeless. Youth is wasted on the young....
A Spoonerism and Twain in one comment! Nice!
This is one of those songs I catch myself humming or whistling whilst driving or doing yardwork.
Heard them sing this in Glasgow about 1970. The volume was so high my ear . hurt . The fiddler run on stage and did a cartwheel. Amazing!
This is the band that opened for Jethro Tull in San Diego in 1973 and I was blown away. Put me back in touch with my UK roots.
This was recorded at the 1987 Philadelphia Folk Festival
Opened for Jethro Tull in San Diego in 1973. Loved this band from the get go. Maddy Prior can sing any time!
I (plus family) attended the Buxton concert just before Christmas 2006 and it was BRILLIANT. Got or photos taken with Ken & then with Maddy..... My wife even got the WINTER CD autographed by Rick.....
from 74? 36 years ago and that music made my soul sing happy.All the good musics we became open to.. wow.. I am glad to have been apart of it and still am,.
Whispering Bob and Mark Williamson look like they are having a right laugh
love this song. one of my steeleye favourites.
wow thank you I remember them when I was college in 73 :)
THANK YOU! Great clip of one of my favorite bands!
well, the Bass player in the clip is Mark Williamson, who is an old friend of Drummer Nigel Pegrums. Mark now lives in Nashville and Nigel now lives in Australia.
Spoons? Love it! I haven't played those for years. LOL. Thanks for posting. :)
I can't do anything about how Steeleye Span performed the song. The video is almost 20 years old and you won't find it anywhere else, so if the sound is not perfect, I am sorry, but it is what it is.
Luv it, and they look like they're having a great time too!
Without this playlist going in the background, I wouldn't have been able to summon up the vim and vigor to work on my resumes this evening! Spirit fuel. Thank gracious for S.S.. ;)
It is to love B-) I still have them ALL, on vinyl!
Wonderful -thanks for posting.
Peter sings Let her Go Down often during the Steeleye concerts. Its also on the 35th anniversary DVD.....
Maddy Prior, Sandy Denny and Annie Haslam all born in 1947. wow. There must have been something beautiful in the British water that year.
TOM:
I was born in England and raised there for a while. Have lived on both sides of the 'pond' and also in the USA and Mexico for extended periods. My wife and family are old stock Canadian (UCL) and I am a proud citizen of that Dominion: 'British by birth, Canadian by choice'. That being said, all citizens of Canada (and the REAL commonwealth nations) are subjects of Her Majesty, while being citizens of Canada and even immigrants make oaths to that order.
Great band STILL....they don't tour the US anymore but they're still rocking the festivals in the UK. Stole the show at Cropredy 2006.
Christ! What fun we had then!
BETTER THAN THE VINYL RECORDING...SO DAMN LIVELY!!!
Nigel Pegrum lives in Australia. I saw his name on CD's as producer of abo/folk/rock music - I like to think it was him on the rock drums. I was tempted but was short of cash. Try Google for more.
Great song. The LP belonged to my brother in law and I listened so much that I tottaly ruined it. He is still angry about me!
Ramon333
Yes, it's called 'Ups and Downs' and is on the Parcel of Rogues CD. I kinda wonder if it isn't a mis-hearing of Epson Downs - the race track in Ireland.
Tom, you asked I answered. I hold three degrees in History, including a post graduate in Modern (post Classical) history. So, I am fine on the facts thanks.
Canada is a confederated Dominion. Canadians are subjects of the Crown. There is no option in that - regardless of what makes Americans (or ex patriots) feel comfortable about their early history.
Canadian and their loyal American allies stood against Washington and his rebellion; many of latter settled here.
I hope you're correct about Jackson. My experience with American students, tourists, and military buddies is that they were very sad over the loss of 'the King of Pop'... I am truly glad to hear a sensible opinion on him from south of the 49th.
I should not have compared him to Maj. Washington, you are 100% correct on that. But, you are incorrect assuming the reasons I dislike him (ie sides) , and this forum is not appropriate or big enough to explain it properly.
@Taylor510ceL9 , man, I would give my firstborn to see Steeleye Span at PFF, but they were before my time. It always amazes me how much unassuming spirit they have, their rich knowledge of traditional music, and how they can 'cover' any traditional song and make it really interesting!
Lovely. Impossible to watch without tapping my foot and grinning like a loon!
Sorry to correct you, but it is in Epsom, Surrey, England.
Maddy is pretty darn good on the spoons!!
Steeleye alway the greatest
Just so happens I'm from the UK, live in the UK and have a very good dentist too!!
Never been to Czechoslovakia. They make nice beer though!
Misty...Moisty How da yee do, again....lovely song1 d
RatherLargeAllan,
No argument there. I was about 25 when I tasted my first Guiness and had an epiphany: Americans had been getting screwed by American brewers for about a century.
"Can't we all agree that both the U.S. and the U.K. are two of the best places on Earth?" - Tom
I can agree to that, no problem.
This is dreadfully uncool..... but I bloody love it!!!!
Bob Johnson was replaced as guitarist by Ken Nicol in 2002 due to bad health. Ken is a worthy replacement & has helped breath live back into the band - hes also great to talk to. Rick Kemp is back on base (every tour he claims it will be his last but.....). Have tickets for early May.....
but it is live
thanks for sharing :D
@Pangael -Just heard an English brewer is selling a beer at 41% p/v called "Sink the Bismarck".
That's as strong as a whisky! Wonder if they sell it in pints.
Every body looks like teenagers in this clip ? Still sounds great though 40 years later.. with a 15th Century song ?😍🤣
Bob Johnson is on guitar next to Peter Knight. I can't place the bass player although a couple did play with Steeleye between Rick Kemp leaving and Tim Harries joining
Just as you have NOI and Communist Americans, we have republican and separatists in Canada. But even though a communist in the USA may hate the Jeffersonian Republic and despise the Presidency, he is still American and subject to her rules, laws, and traditions. He can disavow all he wants, but he is not the rule, he is the exception . The same is true of us - and this is a Constitutional Monarchy, whether some Canadians prefer to think so or not.
LOL. Point well taken.
@3tangle3 Sorry. I still don't see how I am insulting the Welsh? Maddy Prior is from Blackpool? (Which is further away from Wales than I am!)
Maddy's version of 'Three Ships' is awesome :)
This reminds me of the summer of 73. Does anyone know where Nigel Pegrum is? (the drummer) Last I heard, he was in Australia. Thanks!
I would give my left one to be annoyed by steeleye span. Saw them 30 years ago and they haven't been back since...Please, please someone book them in the U.S. Please!
@modelleg
Wowowowowow! The war was over and a new world was born. Thanks for that info.
Tom - Canada is an independent Dominion. A Dominion divided into provinces, and is a Constitutional Monarchy. We share a monarch with the UK, and that makes us all Subjects of the crown- PERIOD. Proud Canadians are proud of Canada. There are people in Canada who want not part of that; They are called separatists. Or they move to the States. You have them in your country as well in many forms. There is not enough room here to respond to the rest of your comments. So will break it up..
Come on atfatw! Where are you? You've been too silent lately! I miss you!
@adventussaxonum,
41%? Geeze, adds a whole new meaning to 'single malt' ! :-)
I used to 'torture' my roomates playing 'span wearing headphones, but turned up so loudly that it could be heard in the room anyway...
Never got the chance to see them...:(
Yay Dad!
I have to confess that I don't know the bass player, and the program doesn't name the band members individually.
I want to upload anothe De Dannan clip, and then I will look for another Steeleye clip.
I guess it's just a matter of personal preference, but overall, I think Prior's voice is a lot more compelling and intriguing.
You are correct. To term the USA as Napoleonic is unfair...to Napoleon. :P
anyone got there [let her go down] song please send to me
@SkodaMart i was just joking about the teeth reference argh! :D ;P
I think using the word dreadfully is less cool than liking this, but i dig it too.
And i'm cool.
The largest campaigns in the Colonial period were against the Acadian (French). The groups of British regulars who saw most action were Yankee. Their dead are memorialised in places like Quebec City and Louisbourg. Men like Ben Frankiln spurred them on. I hope you are correct about Mr Jackson. Perhaps Mr Obama would have been a better example, but there are myriads of them aren't there ;)
Re: British campaigns...can you name ONE that was not retaliatory? Why don't YOU back your points?
atfatw..... I doubt Maddie is poor! She packed the house on Thursday and she still has the voice!
Guess Taylor proved good to his word.
Great video, thanks for sharing. Who's that on bass?
I was going to ask the same question I think it’s Mark Williamson, he is also a really good vocalist think he sang with Veronique Sanson
guinness is only about 4% alcohol...stout , i think refers more to the color and density than to alcohol... content or flavor...try russian imperial stout ...
@SkodaMart its only england that was said to have bad teeth anyway , stop dragging the welsh into it ;)
lol.....maddy is playing a very simple set of .....spoons........all you need is.. two spoons....then off you go.....the irish play them very well too! lol
Hey, what is the name of the Irish tune at the end of this set? Thanks!
Flowers of Edinburgh
+Laura Alexander "Soldiers Joy" done very much as Don Messer did it.
+Larry Joba And would our US cousins please remember it is Edinburra not Edinberg... some of us live there :)
+spentacle This one certainly knows. My great grandfather came from the suburb (seaport) of Leith.
+Larry Joba Good man!. If you come back I would advise that you never, ever, refer to Leith as a suburb. Leith used to be a town in its own right and I know some Leithers who still refuse to accept that it is now part of Edinburgh.
My arguments were made in the face of a rhetorical attack on my people and culture. They were deliberately inflammatory and almost entirely reciprocal.
I did not attempt to make any such points re:'THEREFORE'. They are there in B&W for all to see. I stated the nature of our governance, and a brief account of why we are that way. Don't take my word for it - look it up.
As for my credentials, they are relevant and introductory. I will attempt to clarify my last point regarding comfort...cntd
Maddie's almost as good a spoon player as she is a dancer! It's a pity that such a voice had to compete with the wondrous Sandy Denny.
Who are the guitarists ? Neither of them resemble Bob Johnson.
It IS possible with many educated Americans and British Subjects , but not with ATF's type.
@SkodaMart UK and dentists. I know the english insult by americans is a lie so dont worry
I suppose the most obvious and famous example in post colonial America of genocidal tactics against natives would be what is know to the Cherokee as the 'Trail of Tears' in the 19th century. Is that the one you wanted to were thinking of?
So, to my Canadian eyes there is no room for interpretation on Washington. His revolution displaced, dispossessed, and killed the ancestors of almost a third of modern Canadians. He may be a hero to modern Americans, but then so was Michael Jackson - cult of personality. But you are correct: It was intentionally inflammatory...and I apologize if I offended.
The Bonapartist references are historical references to the changes in US policy and Law under Napoleon's Quisling, Madison.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms?
but wait..what has any of this got to do with the band...thyre greate...haha...
Or you could go and have a nice cold tasteless Budweiser, or is that actually a decent Czech beer?
Sit and watch TV and eat oversized fat burgers!! Live the American Dream!!
I agree with you "lahore55" they act like of wankers.
@3tangle3 rather have bad teeth than a terrible healthcare system ;)
It was a gross (mis)use of force to use genocidal military tactics against tribal peoples, for a single example.
Imperial ambitions: Manifest destiny, the Westward expansion into Mexican territories, Banana Republics, the containment policy, 'Leader's of the Free World' and the list goes on...
Fervour? Look at the Capital or Mt Rushmore.
Bonaparte was at least honest and naked in his ambitions, American politicians hid behind Liberty's skirts. Rhetoric aside the ambitions were similar.
atfatw,
Please take your hate and vitriol to another site. I don't like it, and I will remove your posts if you continue.
But that what folk music is all about,hate and vitriol,plus lies
Why are you nuts discussing all this madness during Misty Moisty Morning? Have you no sense of decency?
Well, at lest the rest of us on this page can spell and use punctuation properly. If I take your meaning correctly, it seems you despise the USA almost as much as you do the UK. So, trying to sell yourself as an American patriot falls kind of flat, ATF.
Again, your arguments make no sense and are contradictory. Why not take this idea of yours onto Yahoo or Paltalk? you'd fit right in ;)