In fact, Bajie's story has some beautiful morals that cannot be conveyed in the English dub. Among them, pig and spider have the same pronunciation in Chinese. Therefore, when Bajie was punished as a pig, the maid mistook the pig for a spider and was willing to be punished as a spider to find Bajie. Bajie's rake and spider's silk represent the beautiful pastoral love life of "men farming and women weaving" in ancient China.
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
Everyone feels bad about Bajie (Pig guy), but the spider demon girl literally abandoned her godhood to find Bajie in the mortal realm, and even after she found out that he got cursed into a pig, she still loves him. Bajie also intentionally being mean to spider demon because he know he's cursed and she will only suffer if she's with him, its a love story that just wasn't meant to be.
If you know the lyrics it's heartbreaking. The male expresses how he is ready to give up and beg her to reject him in the next life, while the female keeps hopeful until the very end.. it's beautifully written
In China, there is a word "male plowing and female weaving", meaning that men work in agriculture and women weave, describing that men and women in the countryside each have their own responsibilities, and work together in harmony. bajie holding a nail harrow, spiders spitting silk and weaving cloth, this kind of happy days is unique to the romance of the Chinese people.
I don't mean to say anything negative, but only if the western world we live in would adopt such pure and simplistic mindset.....I admire how Asians are so diversified yet united.
it's literally the same as the conservative West, honestly nowadays women in China or Asia in general isnt housewives anymore. Both partners needs to be hard working to earn respect from other people.
@@YoonJintae98 as a chinese, we have a book from 2000 yrs ago dsecribing a lord's stroy who was gay, and it had been talked on a positive way. In now days, the chinese city Chengdu is the 'gay capital' from everyone's view, we also have a very famous tran-sex dancer named Jinxing holds some tv shows, so LGBTQ+ has never been a problem within our society, but since its 'different' from what we called 'normal' we just dont encourage these, but never look them down or strange.
It can be understood that, because of her love for Bajie, the palace maid is becoming more and more like a monster, and because of her love for the palace maid, Bajie is becoming more and more like a human being. Both parties are trying hard to become the image that the other likes.😢
@@WU-LianKnot like that，Violet Spider is trapped in love with Bajie but can’t not live felicity with him. Under the influence of Hundred Eyed daoist master, she went to a darker road. Bajie slowly found herself on the journey to the west and finally became a Buddha. This shows that they are doomed to be unable to be together. After seeing all this in memory, he shed tears.
It a hint, bajie learn to let go and accept their fate that they can never be together while she can't, she hold on to the hope that can never come true and it lead her into a darker path, it like a timelapse
Interesting interpretation 😮 I thought that’s them going through different lifetimes and they all ended in tragedy and finally he accepts that they can’t be together. The last bit of harmony, male voice says don’t look back while the female says please look back.
@@anonymousentity5106Honetsly, don’t really see it happening if Buddha’s there 😢, there’s no way for Wukong to defeat Buddha if he isn’t buddha himself. It will probably end in a bittersweet ending.
Bajie, formerly Admiral of the Celestial Fleet, was setup, cast down, and turned into a grotesque monster so he can be a pawn in the Journey to the West. In his long life, he came across his lady love many times through a multitude of her incarnations, just to see that love frustrated.
He wasn't set up. He was always lecherous and kind of sloppy in his duties. So his transformation (it wasn't part of his punishment and was a pure accident) and him going on the journey for atonement was apt.
@@junli6065 then explain why wujing only broke a vase then was banished? explain why wukong do things like gobbling up immortal pills and wreck up the celestial court yet the court was still be patient with him? everything was set up. they're all pawns for the court and buddha to suck up mantra from the humans.
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
@@natn41r in original story he was drunk and chased the chang'an at the banquet once. That's the reason he was sent down. I understand he's not good along the journey but also the heavenly emperor is not a good guy either. Along the way there are plenty of people punished for unreasonable suffering just due to small mistakes like spilling the wine or accidentally bump into the jade emperor. If you look from the Taoist way people from heavenly court are basically an immortal who lost the way and enjoyed the mortal pleasure and drunk on power. Wukone is more like the force of nature and Tribulation for them.
Maybe you don't understand the details. The youngest daughter of the female spider boss is actually the biological daughter of Zhu Bajie and the female spider boss. The detail is the daughter’s ears are the big ears of a pig.
@@Dora8197Bajie realized that it was his child and was afraid that heaven would hurt her because Bajie and Wukong were enemies of heaven, so he had to hide his love.
@@Dora8197 When you see the story of the Bull Demon King in the next chapter, you’ll understand why Pigsy says that. If he admits that the child is his, the child’s fate would be death.
Zhu Bajie was literally a disgusting pig in the original novel tho, he transformed himself into a human trying to live among humans as a pig but his lies was found out…deep down he’s a cool dude and a reincarnated heavenly immortal…
The original author of journey to the west, Wu Chengen, was a scholar that had an unfortunate political career in the imperial court. The celestial court serves as a metaphor for the corrupt imperial court that he had to deal with in real life.
@@user-tr1zjnearly is understatement nobody stop Wukong until Buddha arrived the celestial palace is so dire that Buddha himself need to clear their sht
That scene in which Zhu Bajie wakes up from his dream and joins his fellows on the hill, is an homage to the ending scene of Stephen Chow's Journey to the West. The main point is to feel how deeply saddened and broke he is--Wukong with his staff on his shoulder, pretending as if he is okay, whistling, moving, and all of them, Tang Sanjuang, Wukong, Bajie and Oneung (in Korean pronunciation, for I do not know his Chinese name) leaving their most precious love behind.
I feel on that Chow's movie is, while he sad, he's happy/glad that his counterpart get his happy ending. Bittersweet Yeah, I didn't expect Chow comedy got that sad too
Male: The moonlight is at the bridgehead of our first encounter. Female: The moonlight is at the tower of farewell. Male: Longing is the itch between the eyebrows. Female: The moon looks similar year after year. Ordinary is the longest. Male: Surging like a river. Female: Uneasy like a light boat. With you by my side, Both: This journey is so so free. Female: Clouds gathering. Male: Clouds spreading. Female: Wind clear. Male: Rain sudden. Both: From the beginning of spring to the autumn. At that moment, I fall in love with all of you. Forgetting is the newly added stain. Female: Remembering is the old cliché. Male: A bosom friend is embracing in silence. Female: May the night last until dawn. There's always not enough to say. Male: Noisy like a river. Female: Tranquil like a light boat. With you by my side, Both: This journey is so so carefree. Female: Sunset glow. Male: Morning dew. Female: Epiphyllum. Male: Fleeting clouds. Both: Night is just day. If you mishear the wind, how can there be a future? Male: Misty like a light boat. Female: Lonely like a river. Both: (Male) If you don't let go. (Female) If you let go. Both: When will this journey be saved? Female: Joy. Male: Or sorrow. Both: Blooming or immortal. If there's no fate this life, don't look back in the next life. Female: True feelings. Male: Hard to stay. Female: False intentions. Male: Not enough. Female: Staying together. Male: There's a request in this life. Female: Meeting in the next life. Both: (Male) Please don't look back again. (Female) Please remember to look back.
For those looking for some clarification for the chapter 4 ending cutscene, Zhu Bajie was originally a Grand Marshall of the celestial court. He admired the white-haired lady (goddess of the moon) and chased after her. He bumps into a maid-in-waiting (Chang'e) and she falls in love with Zhu Bajie. Zhu Bajie finds out that the Jade Emperor is having an affair with the goddess of the moon and the Jade Emperor, in order to hide his affair, banishes Zhu Bajie into the mortal realm. Seeing this, Chang'e willingly gives up her godhood to be with her lover and gets sent to the mortal realm and transformed as a yaogai (spider). After Zhu Bajie was banished to the mortal realm, he wakes up in Gao Village and sees Gao Cuilan (a different person; she is not Chang’e). He chases after her thinking that she is his lover (Chang'e) but after seeing his true form as a pig, Gao Cuilan gets freaked out and he runs away in tears. This is not Chang'e as she would recognize Zhu Bajie immediately. Fast forward a bit, to the cave/hot spring scene (this is during the Journey to the West). He comes across some spider yaoguais taking a bath. He turns into a catfish so he can get a better look at the ladies (yes, in the novel he is kind of a pervert). He swims towards the spider lady (Chang'e) who immediately recognizes the catfish as Zhu Bajie. The two reunite as lovers, however the Jade Emperor has decreed that their love always be destined to end in heartbreak (Zhu Bajie was sentenced to 1,000 lifetimes of love tragedies). An extra sad bit I found online: The last lines of the song in the cutscene: The female singer: "Please remember to look back when we meet in the next life." The male singer: "Please don’t look back when we meet in the next life" cre: @louieedward5713
Where are you getting this info from? Certainly not from the game...? Many inaccuracies, at least from standard Chinese folklore. For one, Chang E is the goddess on the moon, not a waiting maid. Zhu Bajie was punished because he literally molested Chang E.
that maid is not Chang'e, in the original novel, she is a maid in purple dress who pours wine for Bajie, but Bajie has not noticed her because he is focusing on Chang'e.
@@natn41r there many lunar deities in Chinese mythology. Chang e can be seen as the godess of the moon and as a title for immortal maids who serve Taiyin Xingjun on the moon
Bajie turned out to be the marshal of heaven. He was sentimental and loved Chang 'e, and he met a maid-in-waiting who also loved Bajie in the process of chasing him. However, he found out that the jade emperor was cheating, and he was banished to the mortal world in order not to leak the news, and turned him into an ugly pig demon. The maid-in-waiting of heaven came to earth in pursuit of Bajie and became a spider essence. They recognized each other at a glance, and they could have lived happily together, but heaven. Bajie had to send Tang Priest to the Western Heaven for Buddhist scriptures, and the monsters along the way were demonized by heaven and had to be eradicated. Bajie had to face his former lover until the maid-in-waiting died, and he didn't dare to love the maid-in-waiting or recognize his children. This is a sad story that two people are doomed to have no fate. To love someone is not to care about him when he is good, but to love you when he is most embarrassed. This is a fairy among women, thinking of worldly pleasures. Be trapped in a cocoon, year after year
What is in great contrats with the mythology, as he was banished because of himself only. I getting tired of stories that paints the gods as evil, and the other creatures as victims.
@@Alex-pj8nz yes, that's the true history. But they decided to go God of War route, were the gods are the evil ones and all other beings are innocent and victim, ugh!
歌词不准确。重新翻译了下： 月光 在初见的桥头 Moonlight at the bridge of our first meeting 月光 在惜别的城楼 Moonlight on the tower where we parted 思念 是眉间的痒 Longing is the itch between my brows 月年年望相似 寻常最长久 Year after year, the moon remains the same; the ordinary lasts the longest 汹涌如江流 Surging like a river 忐忑似轻舟 Trembling like a light boat 有你相伴 With you by my side 这一路多么多么自由 This journey feels so free 云卷 Clouds unfurl 云舒 Clouds stretch out 风清 The wind is clear 雨骤 The rain is sudden 从立春到立秋 From the beginning of spring to the start of autumn 在那一刻我爱上你的所有 In that moment, I fell in love with all of you 忘了 是新添的垢 Forgetting is the stain newly added 记得 是老套的旧 Remembering is the old, worn cliché 知音 是相拥无言 A soulmate is one you embrace in silence 愿天黑话到明 总归说不够 May we speak through the night, but it's never enough 喧闹如江流 As noisy as a rushing river 宁静似轻舟 As serene as a drifting boat 有你相伴 With you by my side 这一路多么多么无忧 This journey is so carefree 晚霞 The evening glow 朝露 The morning dew 昙花 The fleeting bloom 苍狗 The ever-changing clouds 黑夜不过白昼 The night is merely a part of day 听错了风 又怎么会有以后 If you mishear the wind, how can there be a future? 飘渺似轻舟 Drifting like a light boat 寂寥如江流 Lonely like the river's flow 你不放手/你若放手 If you don't let go / If you let go 这一路何年何月得救 When will this journey find its end? 欢喜 Joy 或者哀愁 Or sorrow 绽放或者不朽 To bloom or to wither 有缘无分 下一世莫回眸 If fate brings us close but not together, don't look back in the next life 真情 True love 难留 Hard to keep 假意 False intentions 未够 Never enough 相守 To stay together 今生有求 There’s a desire in this life 下一世相遇 If we meet in the next life 请别再回眸/请记得回眸 Please don't look back / Please remember to look back
"If we meet in the next life" "Please don't look back / Please remember to look back" Damn... I wonder if it's Zhu Bajie who asks to not look back, or if he's asking for another chance while it's the Spider Lady that's asking him to move on.
@@frenkhorsky7633 Zhubajie's fate is that every reincarnation is a tragic love. In the original work, he often said that he wanted to go back to Gao Laozhuang to live an ordinary life with a wife and children, but he couldn't... Their love is complicated. It is painful to be apart, and even more painful to be together.
I haven't played the game, yet i've spoiled myself with its story. Everywhere i see, there always be this post regarding it will be GOTY and never i care about it. But after watching this scene, I want this game to be the GOTY! It deserves it.
The story was so big, even the novel was so long so even if you got spoiled it's just a fraction of the whole thing knowing this game had multiple endings so far I saw 2 endings.
@@王奕博-e5m there I already fixed it, the day I made that comment was when I just finished the "Normal" ending where Destined One accept the Circlet. Then I saw from comments that it had Normal, Good, & Secret Ending so I thought it had 3 endings. Then after I finished NG+ yesterday it really only had 2 Endings. Sorry for misinformation of 3 endings, I only repeated what other said.
No, what the animation expressed was that Bajie has not changed at all, he is very determined. Unfortunately, Spider has changed, but love allows her to retain her humanity.
Here's the real lore: The first beautiful lady Bajie was chasing is not Chang'e. She's the Daoist godess Tai Yin Star (similar to the loong boss Kang Jin Star, but in charge of a different star of course). In Chinese mythology Tai Yin represents moon, so she's the Daoist moon godess, mistress of Guang Han - the moon palace. The guy stood beside Tai Yin is Jade Emperor himself. Unlike Kang Jin, Tai Yin Star has a very high up place in celestial court, also a secret lover of Jade Emperor, that's why they both have holy light circle behind their heads. Bajie stumbled into their secret date, that's why emperor got so mad (scared too) he not only cast him out of heaven, but also turned him into a pig. The second girl Bajie ran into is A Chang'e. Originally Chang'e is not a person, nor god, but a title for moon palace maid, servants of Tai Yin. Later myth stories often mistake Chang'e as a person, as "godess of Guang Han". But the real mistress of Guang Han has always been Tai Yin Star, Chang'e are her maid. In the novel Journey to The West, Tai Yin Star once helped Wukong defeated a specific powerful yaoguai, when she descended to the mortal realm, she brought a Chang'e with her. The fate of that Chang'e was never told by any story, but obviously Game Science now made their own version of explaination: she was cast out too and turned into a spider yaoguai. In the novel JTTW, 7 spiders and a centipede guai tried to kidnap Wukong's master, Wukong defeated them all. In the Game Science version one of the spiders is that Chang'e, she recognized Bajie and had a wonderful relation with him before everything turned into chaos. Bajie spared her life but he had to continue his journey. Since then she's been waiting for Bajie's return from the west.
@@boliu3540 so Chang'e and heng'e are the same person or different? If they are, then isn't she still the wife to Hou yi? If she is the wife of Hou yi, then doesn't that mean she cheated on Hou yi with the jade emperor ?
@@somachung4214 The story has a lot of versions, the original one only said that Heng'e stole her husband's immortal medicine and flew to the moon, the rest are people's imaginations, after all it's a story been told for 2000 years. Now almost everyone accept the version that she is The Chang'e, but like I said, some have doubts because Chang'e is just a title for moon palace maid. Maybe she then became one of the Chang'e, but who knows, there's no official explaination yet, and probably never will be :)
I want the actual Journey to the West being made by this devs. Imagine if you can switch character between Wukong, Bajoe, and Wunjing to protect Tang Sanzang (the master/monk).
I think this is the best portrayal of Bajie and Marshal Tian Peng. It's really beatiful. I grew up with 1996 TV drama version of Journey to the West. In that version, Tian Peng/Bajie once trying to use the time machine, just woo Chang E at the right moments. Seeing his antics during his falls from grace just to woo Chang E was hirarious.
@@None38389it is by far the best art direction ive seen in any game ever, cannot be topped at all, its so fucking beautiful and the meanings can be felt so deep
Agreed. I'm a huge GOW fan played all 7 games psp included. But the aragoa arc was insufferable. So boring turned me off from doing another playthrough
The game's story is already enough to make me wimp, but then the animation came in delivering the kill blows, my tears shed as how cursed Bajie loves. Not only Bajie's love story is painful, but Ox Demon King's life story is tragic as well. This game is a masterpiece.
Hey who left this bowl of onions here? 😭😢 Props to Game science for making Ba jie's love story more interesting. You know in his JTTW version,his story is quite a laughingstock because women just admired his human form and chivalry. But this lady is basically his soulmate,he even followed him to the same fate
This made me cry... she saw the man in him when even when he'd been reduced to a creature. They saw the monsters in each other but couldn't let go of the people they were, even as they tore each other apart.
Mana yang bilang NO DIVERSITY & INCLUSIVITY? Sebenarnya saya sudah tahu cerita Cut Pat Kai, tapi di game ini lebih dramatic diceritakan. Ini adalah PUNCAK DIVERSITY dimana cinta butuh pengorbanan. Menurutku tak ada yang paling berkorban percintaan si babi dan laba2. Demi melindungi si laba2, si babi bersedia dihukum 1000 siksaan reinkarnasi agar langit tidak mencaritahu hubungan sibabi dengan laba2. Karena jika ketahuan bakal dihabisi, swdangkan si laba2 tetap mencintai si only one yakni sibabi sampai ribuan tahun. Sama2 berkorban...
Let me explain. there are two laws in Heavenly Court you should know first, one immortals are not allowed to fall in love with each other; and two, immortal can not come down to earth without permission.（They need to follow the Taoist rules of purity.） Bajie was originally a general in the Heavenly Court, he admired the Moon God (Taiyin) and met the Moon God's maid (ChangE), but he accidentally saw the Moon God's date with the Jade Emperor. The Jade Emperor charges Bajie molested CangE and relegates Bajie to the mortal world to be reincarnated as a pig in order to prevent his scandal from spreading. After that CangE privately descends to earth to looking for bajie. And because of that she became a demon and lost her immortality as penalty
Last line of the lyrics in the animation: If there is a cycle of rebirth, bajie: Please remember not to look back. chang'e: Please remember to look back.
Man I remember that time when I am watching JTTW Wukong realy have a hard time to take care of this pig but also realy emotion that this pig have sad trgedy in the past
A sad story indeed. Somehow it reminds me of a rumor that if a woman has to marry one of the four main characters in the Journey to the West, chances are good she would marry Bajie rather than the monkey
I’m Chinese who read the original novel when I was a 4th grader in elementary school. Piggy was trying to lure Chang’e ( The Godess of Moon, also Jade Emperor’s mistress), so Jade Emperor (Gods’ big boss) was pissed off and had him thrown into a pig’s womb to be a pig.
@@munkhtuvshinmt no he’s not a pervert in the original novel. The Jade Emperor wants to stop Buddha’s (a Buddhist king affiliated with the Jade Emperor) advance into Taoist world, so the Jade Emperor arranged for Piggy (the Heavenly Admiral General) to get caught in a scandal. Piggy agreed to the deal. Piggy’s task was to get caught and sent to the earthly world (reincarnated as a pig) to kill Wukong who was pinned under a huge mountain. That’s the plot in the original novel. In the Video Game, the whole thing was rewritten so that Chang’e fell in love with Piggy, so when Piggy get caught and sent to the earthly world to be a pig. Chang’e chose to be reincarnated as a spider cuz she mistaken “他是只猪”（now he’s a pig) for “他是蜘蛛” (now he’s a spider) cuz the two sentences sound the same in Mandarin. She chose to be a spider to continue their love in the earthly world. It’s complicated. Lol
The Heavenly Court is like the Greek gods in God of War. Wukong is a Kratos that failed at killing and wiping out the entire cast of hypocritical and cruel gods.
@@Classfied1ironic. In the books Buddha is kinda chill and only punishes Wu Kong when he threatens to destroy everyone. Also, he was more merciful and wanted Wu Kong to have a chance at redemption. Unlike the rest of the heavenly court that wanted to kill him at the first chance they got.
Agreed.A fun fact,the way Bahje tried to forsake his daughter in order to protect her from being harmed by the Celestial court had a lot of similarities to the way Kratos had to abandoned her daughter Calliope in the Elysium fields to prevent her from being destroyed by the goddess Persephone in the Gow,chains of olympus.They both had the same expression,miserable but still determined to walk away to protect their love one despite the fact they will never had the chance to see them again.
The heaven punishment is not kidding. Bajie was banished from the king of god of heaven. That is very heavy punish. He can't love because if love then the lover must be die, can't recognize owner girl. He can only see in the far place and pray in the next life please don't remember me again. this is beautiful story.
In the original story, he was one of the gods live in above. He love that white hair lady in the opening called Chang'e.Once, he got drunk, and sexually harassed Chang'e.So, he was banished to the mortal world. (The rumor is because the king of above also love Chang'e)However, when he was born in the mortal world, he passed the wrong way and became a pig. In this revised story, he love Chang'e and chasing her.The young fairy and him accidentally smacked into each other.Then, the young fairy fell in love with him, but he still wants to get Chang'e.Well, he found Chang'e and the king of above was cheating on the queen.So, he was banished to the mortal world and met an human girl.When he turned into a pig, the girl broke up with him and made him desperate.At this time, he met the young fairy came to the mortal world for him.And then, the rest part of this you guys should already understand.
Old Tru wanted her to forget him, there was only pain with him. She hopes he won't forget her, because without him she only feels miserable When translating, there are many interesting things that have to be changed to make the meaning easier to understand. There are a few responses between the two that carry a lot of meaning, but in general, Spider Tinh thinks that being with him is happiness, but Pigsy thinks that being with her will be miserable. She calls it a cool breeze, he sees it as rain. He called it noisy, she only saw peace. He is forgotten, she is longing. She called it happiness, he just feared it was sadness. The part that blooms quickly and fades quickly (not that it fades quickly) means you have to change your mind, because this answer is originally Dam Hoa - Thuong Cau. Translated directly, if you listen to it, you don't understand it, not knowing the meaning.😢 Dam Hoa here is from the phrase "Dam Hoa Nhat Ema", which refers to Vi Da (Hoa Quynh blooms only because of Vi Da). The Dam Hoa in that sentence only blooms because of Vi Da, but the comparison here is: The story tells that Dam Hoa was originally just a small, very ordinary and weak flower. One day a strong wind blew and Dam Hoa almost couldn't stand it, but at that time a young man passed by to protect him. Damn flowers from that wind. Dam Hoa was touched and fell in love with him. Dam Hoa wondered when he would return. I waited for him for a thousand years, then two thousand years, but he still didn't come back. Spider Tinh is Dam Hoa, and Ba Gioi is Vi Da. Bat Gioi replied, Thuong Cau, as in the phrase Thuong Cau White Clothes, refers to the clouds in the sky that change unpredictably, just like life changes unpredictably. (This sentence is from Du Phu's poem) There are a lot of hidden meanings, Chinese music is often mixed, but just translating without understanding the meaning won't reveal everything :(
So Bajie, from the very beginning, always chasing after the wrong ladies who never loved him for what he is, either being a "lowly" Marshal in Heaven, or a pig monster on Earth. While that fairy lady keeps following him all the way from Heaven to Earth and always accepts him for what he is? And yet, in the end, he still abandoned her for the sake of... enlightenment? Man, love her back and stay with her lah! 😢😢
Doubt its enlightenment, even the narrator states that Bajie attained Buddhahood at the end of the journey but still couldn't shake his nature (lovestruck fool) which he notes, isn't a bad thing. See Chapter 5 for what happens when you defy Heaven's punishment. See what they did to Wukong at the start for the same. Bajie is not as strong as these two people and if Heaven could ruin their lives and the lives of those they love.....he is walking away for their sake.
★ This is the story of what happened at the end of chapter 4: • Tian Peng Yuan Shuai was deeply infatuated with Tai Yin Xing Jun. While persistently pursuing her, he accidentally bumped into Tai Yin Xing Jun's maid, Chang'e. From that moment, Chang'e fell deeply in love with him at first sight. One day, while spying on Tai Yin Xing Jun, he discovered a secret affair between her and the Jade Emperor. Upon being caught, he was banished to the mortal realm. • In the mortal realm, Tian Peng found love with a noble maiden in Gao family. Their union was blissful until a celestial decree transformed him into the swine-like creature, Zhu Bajie. • Chang’e, was banished to the mortal realm and transformed into a monstrous arachnid due to her forbidden affection for the mortal, Zhu Bajie. Upon their reunion, they kindled a passionate love, enduring until Zhu Bajie embarked on a pilgrimage to the West with the monk Tang Sanzang. Despite the passage of five centuries, during which she aged into a withered crone, Chang’e persisted in her unwavering devotion, awaiting Zhu Bajie’s eventual return.
Spider demon was a beautiful maid served in heavenly court, where she fell in love with the Grant Marshel (Bajie). This maid was banished from heaven as a punishment for her failure to guard the immortality elixir from the mischievous Monkey King. She had no complain because it gave her the chance to meet her beloved Marshel again in the mortal realm. She heard the Marshel descended into mortal realm as a pig, thus she chose to become a spider, because "a pig" sounds the same as "spider" in Chinese. The Marshel became the pig, was punished to have 1000 lifetime of failure to pursue love. Thus, he said "in next life please forget about me" Thus, she said "in next life please remember me"
If they ever gonna make the second game. It gonna be Kratos all over again. In the book, most Yaoguai is a pet or family relatives with high court member in Heaven. Root to the core.
Spider doesnt mind 1000 lifetimes of sufferiing for love even if pig makes sacrifice of prentending to not know her to protect spider from heavenly court. THIS IS PEAK DIVERSITY 😅😅
But the game has a lot of different animals, can it be count diversity too? Also, what do you expect of the diversity when your main character is a literal monkey?
During their journey to fetch scriptures, Tang Sanzang and his disciples came across seven extremely beautiful spider spirits who were taking a bath. Little did they know that these seven spider spirits were actually the seven fairies in heaven. They were banished to the mortal world due to being implicated in Sun Wukong's stealing of peaches and causing a commotion in the Heavenly Palace. It was Bajie who discovered them first. At a glance, he recognized that one of the fairies was the one who had secretly admired him. As soon as their eyes met, the fairy also immediately recognized her beloved. Later, the two had a romantic encounter, and Bajie quietly saved this fairy. He knew that once Sun Wukong arrived, he would surely kill all of them. After all, that monkey Sun Wukong is naturally cruel and merciless. No monster can escape his cudgel. Moreover, if this matter is known by Tathagata, the consequences would be unimaginable. Because the journey to fetch scriptures is essentially a journey of redemption. Once they have worldly desires, Tathagata will certainly not spare them, and their lovers will also be implicated. Bajie did all this silently and buried this secret deep in his heart.
"Hurry up and find out what Marshal Tianpeng(Bajie) turned into when he was demoted to the mortal world." "I found out. He turned into a(zhi) pig(zhu)." "Okay, then I'll turn into a spider(zhi zhu) too."
Here is the complete story for those who want: Bajie was actually a high rank marshal in heaven and the young girl whom he collided was the previous form of violet spider (a normal fairy in heaven) she fell in love with the marshal at first sight. Soon Bajie was punished by Jade Emperor and sent to earth as a pig for running after and chasing his love the moon lady. The young fairy inquired in the heaven and by mistake she heard the term spider, since pig and spider have the same pronounciation in chinese so she became a spider in order to meet the marshal (now bajie) and by happenstance one day she was bathing in a pond where bajie met her In the last cutscene video after Zhu bajie falls from heaven and wakes up the girl he saw was her first wife named cuilan. After he showed his actual form by mistake (as he was drunk) she was scared and they were shortly divorced, violet spider was the only lady who loved him despite his ugly looks as a pig and that's why bajie also loved her. However bajie never kept contact with her and her family (the second sister and some other few spider who calls her mother) in order to save her from the eyes of heaven (as he and his former master son wukong were instructed from celestial court to kill all spider sisters, during journey to the west to attain buddhahood). However bajie spared the life of the violet sister killing all the others (however the second sister survived by some way as we can see her in the game). The violet spider just stayed alive throughout the years to show bajie her daughter and she wanted him to accept the relationship between them but bajie still cared for their lives and kept silent. That is why you hear violet spider saying "You haven't changed a bit, you fool..." In fact this story in China has a moral significance. Bajie's rake (the stick in his hand) and violet spider's silk represents the love between "men farming and women weaving" in ancient china. Edit: In the game it might seem like the violet spider wants to kill Bajie to take revenge for her sisters, but she was probably just playing with him as we can clearly see them joking and laughing at times. But the violet spider was instructed by the centipede (Hundred eyed daiost master) to kill the destined one as a token of gratitude for the relic that he gave her in order to live longer (as spiders have have short lifespan). Also note that this centipede wanted to kill bajie's former master son wukong as bajie said in the game. As the centipede took the relic from the violet spider it could no longer be used by her and she soon died due to very old age as in the cutscene.If not the violet spider wanted to kill his friend the destined one bajie would obviously let her live with the relic till her natural death (as it might increase her life but not grant her immortality). But bajie was conscious of what could happen next so he quickly instructed wukong "Go after her! She has the relic" (otherwise she would be killed by the centipede) However bajie did visited her grave in the meantime and he used a special preservation orb to preserve her corpse from rotting and keep it fresh for lifelong as a last token of love towards her which can be even found in the game but be sure not to take it, or you will be filled with guilt.
“Hi what happened to Bajie，havent seen him for awhile” “He was punished to the earthy world as zhi zhu（a pig）” “oh，as a zhi zhu （spider）ok，i will follow him”
This segment of the story depicts Tianpeng's admiration for the Taiyin Star Lord (not Chang'e). The maid he encountered on the way was actually Chang'e (in this context, "Chang'e" is a title, and all maids of the Taiyin Star Lord are called Chang'e). The Jade Emperor and the Taiyin Star Lord were secretly meeting when Tianpeng stumbled upon them. Fearing for his reputation, the Jade Emperor banished Tianpeng to the mortal world. This Chang'e, who never forgot about Tianpeng, descended to the mortal realm as a spider demon. When the banished Zhu Bajie saw Gao Cuilan at Gao Village, he mistook her for Chang'e and pursued her, but when Gao Cuilan saw Zhu Bajie's true form, she was terrified. Zhu Bajie continued his journey westward and reached the Pansi Cave, where the reincarnated Chang'e (as the spider demon) immediately recognized her beloved pig-headed lover. They fell in love, and Zhu Bajie released the spider demon. Because they had a daughter together, the spider demon waited for Zhu Bajie until her dying day... Due to Zhu Bajie's earlier mistake (confusing Gao Cuilan with Chang'e), the spider demon, before dying, said, "你还是像以前一样笨" ("You're still as foolish as ever"). This remark implied that Zhu Bajie dared not acknowledge them as mother and daughter, fearing retribution from the heavens. The spider demon actually knew everything. I think she deliberately absorbed one of the "six roots" just to endure long enough to see Zhu Bajie one last time. When she absorbed it, she already knew her fate was sealed, but she had a daughter with Zhu Bajie. She wanted to see Zhu Bajie, to let him see their daughter. When Zhu Bajie spoke harshly, she understood his feelings. The spider demon had long known that meeting Zhu Bajie would mark her death. Zhu Bajie also understood everything; he saw that the spider demon understood his intentions, but he had no other choice. He had to say those hurtful words, wanting to sever ties to protect their daughter and the spider demon. But since the spider demon had absorbed the root, her death was inevitable, and Zhu Bajie could do nothing. Both the spider demon and Zhu Bajie were old spirits, fully aware of everything. They both knew what the other was thinking. The story's conclusion is one of powerlessness and resignation. Although they spoke many words, it conveyed a deeper sense of "相顾无言，唯有泪千行" ("gazing at each other speechlessly, with only tears flowing"). “蜘蛛 只猪” ("Spider" and "just a pig")-in Chinese, these three words sound the same. Chang'e misheard, turning Tianpeng into a pig when she heard "spider." So Chang'e also chose to become a spider. "你知道天蓬转世成什么了吗？” (“Do you know what Tianpeng was reincarnated as?”) “你说天蓬啊，他转世成了只猪。” (“You mean Tianpeng? He was reincarnated as a pig.”) “蜘蛛啊，那我也要变成蜘蛛。” (“A spider? Then I also want to become a spider.”) Despite never having misheard anything before, she became "deaf" at the moment she decided to descend to the mortal realm, as if fate had already written a script where they were destined to be star-crossed lovers. A rake, a tool for farming; and silk, used for weaving. The ultimate fantasy of ancient Chinese life: "男耕女织" ("men plow, women weave").
I love this story and hope it helps you guys unfamiliar with the backstory with my understanding. In the original story of Journey to the West, Bajie was a leader of the Heaven army and was exiled to the world as a pig demon due to flirting with Chang 'e. At the very beginning of the film, Bajie is chasing after Chang'e, but he accidentally collides with a maidservant, who falls in love with Bajie. Then Bajie anciently finds Chang 'e and high-level immortal adultery (love is forbidden in heaven), that's why Bajie gets exiled as a pig demon. The maidservant followed him down to the world and was reborn as a spider spirit. Eventually, they meet again and have a little girl. Then, in the story from Journey to the West, the spider spirit's brother (Hundred Eyes, the final chapter boss) wants to eat Tangseng and be defeated by WuKong and Bajie. Back to the BMW, Bajie didn't kill all the monsters as Wukong said, he kept the spiders alive but had to follow Tangseng and Wukong for the further journey. That's the reason why Bajie looks at the distant dilapidated house at the end of the film, there is his love (maybe he knows nothing about his little girl). After Wukong died, for some reason, The Hundred Eyes was sent back to the Ziyun mountain (which might be due to the so-called business from heaven), The spider spirit finally met Bajie again and hoped for an unusually late wedding. I believe Bajie ignored her and their daughter at her end time because Bajie trying to protect them by keeping them away from the struggles and business in heaven. There is proof of Bajie's love, an 'Easter Egg' can be found at the end of this chapter, we can find a tomb for the spider spirit built by Bajie and an item called 'Zhuyan Zhu' in front of the tomb (I'm not sure the exact name in the English version). This item belongs to Bajie and can keep the appearance never change according to the Journey to the West. By the way, Chang 'e is often considered the moon goddess and lives on the moon with a pet rabbit in Chinese mythology. Chang 'e is often associated with rabbits, you can see Chang 'e look and hop like a rabbit in the film. These little details are fascinating. That's also the reason why China's lunar exploration program and its lunar rover are named Chang'e and Yuetu (Moon Rabbit). A little Chinese romance.
This is how you do video game story telling. American studios like Bungie, Respawn and Rocksteady should take notice. This is how its done, This is how to engage with Modern Gamers who are the actual fabled Modern Audience they keep chasing.
In fact, there are many ancient Chinese novels that are even more explosive, such as Fengshen Yanyi, where King Zhou of Shang has sex with foxes and jade stones, not to mention another novel called Liaozhai, which is full of human ghost and human demon love. Chinese people played lgbtq hundreds of years ago
I couldn't help but imagine what if they put by Lowell Lo (一生所爱)， or some modern remake to the scene. As a homage, this would be truly incredible. Haven't played the game yet but this story really drew me in.
The Taoist priest in the game told the player that she was a female immortal at the time. It was said that Marshal Tianpeng was thrown into the mortal world by the Jade Emperor and turned into a pig. In Chinese, turning into a pig and turning into a spider are pronounced the same. , she heard wrongly and was reincarnated as a spider. She kept waiting for Bajie.
In fact, Bajie's story has some beautiful morals that cannot be conveyed in the English dub. Among them, pig and spider have the same pronunciation in Chinese. Therefore, when Bajie was punished as a pig, the maid mistook the pig for a spider and was willing to be punished as a spider to find Bajie. Bajie's rake and spider's silk represent the beautiful pastoral love life of "men farming and women weaving" in ancient China.
Wow! I've been watching the 1986 JTTW since little, but now watching it again as adult, I realize there are more than just magic and great fights
Thank you for this explanation!
@@deviancepurplehaze6045 He's not right, homophone is just a meme.He is a bad boy
@@PhongÂu-l1s He's not right, homophone is just a meme.He is a bad boy
@@PhongÂu-l1sChinese stories are filled with these 👍🏻
I never expected Bajie would ever make me cry.
Finally, girls sing please turn back, boys sing don't turn back.
Now Pig Bajie sees spiders, but the spider essence is still the same as when they met.
Bajie's personality: humorous, lustful, kind-hearted, and likes to eat😂😂😂😂
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
This game is truly a masterpiece, not only does the graphic display look good, the game is good, but each ending chapter has a deep meaning.
cutscene 2
dude=USA congress
fox= tiktok ceo
reason to kill:national security
real reason : racism
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
"You haven't changed a bit...you fool..."
Damn that hit hard
Typical. They’re all pigs.
She understands and knows his reasoning
@@drive5775 Typical. They’re all pigs.
Everyone feels bad about Bajie (Pig guy), but the spider demon girl literally abandoned her godhood to find Bajie in the mortal realm, and even after she found out that he got cursed into a pig, she still loves him.
Bajie also intentionally being mean to spider demon because he know he's cursed and she will only suffer if she's with him, its a love story that just wasn't meant to be.
If you know the lyrics it's heartbreaking. The male expresses how he is ready to give up and beg her to reject him in the next life, while the female keeps hopeful until the very end.. it's beautifully written
@@MbahMu9829 they should put subtitles when the song played.. :(
@@rpamungkas13 this one has it. ua-cam.com/video/LT6ZEU6f5KQ/v-deo.html
Not only that, if he acknowledge them as family, the jade emperor will hunt them down
@@MbahMu9829
In China, there is a word "male plowing and female weaving", meaning that men work in agriculture and women weave, describing that men and women in the countryside each have their own responsibilities, and work together in harmony. bajie holding a nail harrow, spiders spitting silk and weaving cloth, this kind of happy days is unique to the romance of the Chinese people.
Hey, you remind me a bout a good point i cant see for 40 yrs.. Thx..
I don't mean to say anything negative, but only if the western world we live in would adopt such pure and simplistic mindset.....I admire how Asians are so diversified yet united.
it's literally the same as the conservative West, honestly nowadays women in China or Asia in general isnt housewives anymore. Both partners needs to be hard working to earn respect from other people.
@@YoonJintae98 as a chinese, we have a book from 2000 yrs ago dsecribing a lord's stroy who was gay, and it had been talked on a positive way. In now days, the chinese city Chengdu is the 'gay capital' from everyone's view, we also have a very famous tran-sex dancer named Jinxing holds some tv shows, so LGBTQ+ has never been a problem within our society, but since its 'different' from what we called 'normal' we just dont encourage these, but never look them down or strange.
@@jinli9087 Hope the CCP do not see you comments. lol
i watched this yesterday and crying 😭 now im crying again 😭
that scene where bajie saw spider lady into ugly but spider lady saw bajie as handsome 😢
It can be understood that, because of her love for Bajie, the palace maid is becoming more and more like a monster, and because of her love for the palace maid, Bajie is becoming more and more like a human being. Both parties are trying hard to become the image that the other likes.😢
@@WU-LianKnot like that，Violet Spider is trapped in love with Bajie but can’t not live felicity with him. Under the influence of Hundred Eyed daoist master, she went to a darker road. Bajie slowly found herself on the journey to the west and finally became a Buddha. This shows that they are doomed to be unable to be together. After seeing all this in memory, he shed tears.
It a hint, bajie learn to let go and accept their fate that they can never be together while she can't, she hold on to the hope that can never come true and it lead her into a darker path, it like a timelapse
Interesting interpretation 😮 I thought that’s them going through different lifetimes and they all ended in tragedy and finally he accepts that they can’t be together. The last bit of harmony, male voice says don’t look back while the female says please look back.
That's not why Bajie refused to recognize her, he pretended not to know her to protect her.
Man, I just want Wukong to wreck Heaven all over again just because of this story arc.
DLC😏
@@acidrain5160Wukong 2 (hopefully)
"Jade Emperor! Your monkey has returned! I bring the destruction of the Heaven"
@@anonymousentity5106Honetsly, don’t really see it happening if Buddha’s there 😢, there’s no way for Wukong to defeat Buddha if he isn’t buddha himself. It will probably end in a bittersweet ending.
@@anonymousentity5106 check the .exe file in the origin folder, it is called 'b1'. So there will be b2 or b3 inferentially. lol
@@HieuLe-fi2ri any idea why Buddha stands on side of jade emperor?
I cried. Never thought his past would be this painful 😢
Peak animation, peak soundtrack and storytelling. This scene really gives me goosebumps!
Bajie, formerly Admiral of the Celestial Fleet, was setup, cast down, and turned into a grotesque monster so he can be a pawn in the Journey to the West. In his long life, he came across his lady love many times through a multitude of her incarnations, just to see that love frustrated.
Hardly a setup. The guy had too much wine and made a drunken declaration of love to Chang’e of the moon.
He wasn't set up. He was always lecherous and kind of sloppy in his duties. So his transformation (it wasn't part of his punishment and was a pure accident) and him going on the journey for atonement was apt.
@@junli6065 then explain why wujing only broke a vase then was banished? explain why wukong do things like gobbling up immortal pills and wreck up the celestial court yet the court was still be patient with him? everything was set up. they're all pawns for the court and buddha to suck up mantra from the humans.
bajie saves his lover by using a lotus seed from his outfit. You will find that the lotus seed taken from his lover is missing a piece after giving it to you. I think that is Bajie for his lover, after all, Bajie is a very good doctor.
@@natn41r in original story he was drunk and chased the chang'an at the banquet once. That's the reason he was sent down. I understand he's not good along the journey but also the heavenly emperor is not a good guy either. Along the way there are plenty of people punished for unreasonable suffering just due to small mistakes like spilling the wine or accidentally bump into the jade emperor. If you look from the Taoist way people from heavenly court are basically an immortal who lost the way and enjoyed the mortal pleasure and drunk on power. Wukone is more like the force of nature and Tribulation for them.
Maybe you don't understand the details. The youngest daughter of the female spider boss is actually the biological daughter of Zhu Bajie and the female spider boss. The detail is the daughter’s ears are the big ears of a pig.
I want a Pig of War game with Bajie and Spider-Girl.
I figured it out when Bajie first saw the little girl and scream "Hideous! Who would fathered such a thing" 😢
@@Dora8197Bajie realized that it was his child and was afraid that heaven would hurt her because Bajie and Wukong were enemies of heaven, so he had to hide his love.
@@Dora8197 When you see the story of the Bull Demon King in the next chapter, you’ll understand why Pigsy says that. If he admits that the child is his, the child’s fate would be death.
So the other sister is not zhu bajien daughter?
Game Science made me cry. 😭
Now I need "Black Myth: Zhu Bajie" too.
Black Myth: Zhu Bajie, will be a story mixed of Horror/Romance/Mystery/Porn.
Zhu Bajie was literally a disgusting pig in the original novel tho, he transformed himself into a human trying to live among humans as a pig but his lies was found out…deep down he’s a cool dude and a reincarnated heavenly immortal…
the story telling in this game is a masterpiece
Bro got cursed to 1000 life of tragic love just because he wants to be loved. Trash ass heaven, let me have em
The original author of journey to the west, Wu Chengen, was a scholar that had an unfortunate political career in the imperial court. The celestial court serves as a metaphor for the corrupt imperial court that he had to deal with in real life.
Sun Wukong nearly destroyed heaven but Buddha stopped him and trapped him under a mountain
@@user-tr1zjat this point I was hoping that sun wulong destroyed the heavenly court
@@user-tr1zjnearly is understatement nobody stop Wukong until Buddha arrived the celestial palace is so dire that Buddha himself need to clear their sht
@@seaniwuits not suprising giving the long history how China Imperial Court is corrupt and full of plot
Real love does not care how you look on the outside, but what you are on the inside.
It's hard to play the game with these tears dropping bro...
the game is aready as hard as life😂
I also dropped my entire pc after being beaten by the scorpion lord 80th time
ahaaha
“The culmination of LOVE, if GRIEF, yet WE, love, despite the inevitable, we open our HEARTS to it.” -Faye of Jotunheim
Welp time to call up kratos and see if man down for another end of the world war
That scene in which Zhu Bajie wakes up from his dream and joins his fellows on the hill, is an homage to the ending scene of Stephen Chow's Journey to the West. The main point is to feel how deeply saddened and broke he is--Wukong with his staff on his shoulder, pretending as if he is okay, whistling, moving, and all of them, Tang Sanjuang, Wukong, Bajie and Oneung (in Korean pronunciation, for I do not know his Chinese name) leaving their most precious love behind.
I feel on that Chow's movie is, while he sad, he's happy/glad that his counterpart get his happy ending. Bittersweet
Yeah, I didn't expect Chow comedy got that sad too
Wujing
Journey to the west is a tragedy disguised as dark comedy.
Sha Wujing
Chow himself said all his film is tragedy but ppl always think of them is comedy
Pig and Spider: most diverse and inclusive couple ever
Actually in Chinese pig and spider pronound quite similar so the spider was intend to become the same kind with bajie. But she heard it wrong
Become a Pig(变成只猪）: bian cheng zhi zhu, Become a spider（变成蜘蛛）: bian cheng zhi zhu. They sound exactly the same, they're just written differently.
Still better love story and character than what DEI can cook up xD
他变成一只猪 ！ 他变成一蜘蛛！发音一摸一样，暗示女生为了追求跟随他 把自己变成一蜘蛛，只是八戒变成一只猪，她理解错了
Lol, no
Male: The moonlight is at the bridgehead of our first encounter.
Female: The moonlight is at the tower of farewell.
Male: Longing is the itch between the eyebrows.
Female: The moon looks similar year after year. Ordinary is the longest.
Male: Surging like a river.
Female: Uneasy like a light boat.
With you by my side,
Both: This journey is so so free.
Female: Clouds gathering.
Male: Clouds spreading.
Female: Wind clear.
Male: Rain sudden.
Both: From the beginning of spring to the autumn.
At that moment, I fall in love with all of you.
Forgetting is the newly added stain.
Female: Remembering is the old cliché.
Male: A bosom friend is embracing in silence.
Female: May the night last until dawn. There's always not enough to say.
Male: Noisy like a river.
Female: Tranquil like a light boat.
With you by my side,
Both: This journey is so so carefree.
Female: Sunset glow.
Male: Morning dew.
Female: Epiphyllum.
Male: Fleeting clouds.
Both: Night is just day.
If you mishear the wind, how can there be a future?
Male: Misty like a light boat.
Female: Lonely like a river.
Both: (Male) If you don't let go. (Female) If you let go.
Both: When will this journey be saved?
Female: Joy.
Male: Or sorrow.
Both: Blooming or immortal.
If there's no fate this life, don't look back in the next life.
Female: True feelings.
Male: Hard to stay.
Female: False intentions.
Male: Not enough.
Female: Staying together.
Male: There's a request in this life.
Female: Meeting in the next life.
Both: (Male) Please don't look back again. (Female) Please remember to look back.
Super. The essence is interpreted.
For those looking for some clarification for the chapter 4 ending cutscene,
Zhu Bajie was originally a Grand Marshall of the celestial court. He admired the white-haired lady (goddess of the moon) and chased after her. He bumps into a maid-in-waiting (Chang'e) and she falls in love with Zhu Bajie. Zhu Bajie finds out that the Jade Emperor is having an affair with the goddess of the moon and the Jade Emperor, in order to hide his affair, banishes Zhu Bajie into the mortal realm. Seeing this, Chang'e willingly gives up her godhood to be with her lover and gets sent to the mortal realm and transformed as a yaogai (spider).
After Zhu Bajie was banished to the mortal realm, he wakes up in Gao Village and sees Gao Cuilan (a different person; she is not Chang’e). He chases after her thinking that she is his lover (Chang'e) but after seeing his true form as a pig, Gao Cuilan gets freaked out and he runs away in tears. This is not Chang'e as she would recognize Zhu Bajie immediately.
Fast forward a bit, to the cave/hot spring scene (this is during the Journey to the West). He comes across some spider yaoguais taking a bath. He turns into a catfish so he can get a better look at the ladies (yes, in the novel he is kind of a pervert). He swims towards the spider lady (Chang'e) who immediately recognizes the catfish as Zhu Bajie. The two reunite as lovers, however the Jade Emperor has decreed that their love always be destined to end in heartbreak (Zhu Bajie was sentenced to 1,000 lifetimes of love tragedies).
An extra sad bit I found online:
The last lines of the song in the cutscene:
The female singer: "Please remember to look back when we meet in the next life."
The male singer: "Please don’t look back when we meet in the next life"
cre: @louieedward5713
Where are you getting this info from? Certainly not from the game...? Many inaccuracies, at least from standard Chinese folklore. For one, Chang E is the goddess on the moon, not a waiting maid. Zhu Bajie was punished because he literally molested Chang E.
that maid is not Chang'e, in the original novel, she is a maid in purple dress who pours wine for Bajie, but Bajie has not noticed her because he is focusing on Chang'e.
@@natn41r there many lunar deities in Chinese mythology. Chang e can be seen as the godess of the moon and as a title for immortal maids who serve Taiyin Xingjun on the moon
@@natn41rand Chinese folklore has manh variations of one story, do some research before assuming its incorrect lmao
so Baji went pervert mode in bath and met his girl. Then they killed each other???
Bajie turned out to be the marshal of heaven. He was sentimental and loved Chang 'e, and he met a maid-in-waiting who also loved Bajie in the process of chasing him. However, he found out that the jade emperor was cheating, and he was banished to the mortal world in order not to leak the news, and turned him into an ugly pig demon. The maid-in-waiting of heaven came to earth in pursuit of Bajie and became a spider essence. They recognized each other at a glance, and they could have lived happily together, but heaven. Bajie had to send Tang Priest to the Western Heaven for Buddhist scriptures, and the monsters along the way were demonized by heaven and had to be eradicated. Bajie had to face his former lover until the maid-in-waiting died, and he didn't dare to love the maid-in-waiting or recognize his children. This is a sad story that two people are doomed to have no fate. To love someone is not to care about him when he is good, but to love you when he is most embarrassed. This is a fairy among women, thinking of worldly pleasures. Be trapped in a cocoon, year after year
What is in great contrats with the mythology, as he was banished because of himself only. I getting tired of stories that paints the gods as evil, and the other creatures as victims.
Weird the story I read has him chasing a lady in a garden drunk, he was accused of attempted molesting her and they thrown him out of heaven.
@@Alex-pj8nz yes, that's the true history. But they decided to go God of War route, were the gods are the evil ones and all other beings are innocent and victim, ugh!
Isn't Zhu Bajie a pervert?
@@Maya-sv1pzwell yes but thats after the boar incident
歌词不准确。重新翻译了下：
月光 在初见的桥头
Moonlight at the bridge of our first meeting
月光 在惜别的城楼
Moonlight on the tower where we parted
思念 是眉间的痒
Longing is the itch between my brows
月年年望相似 寻常最长久
Year after year, the moon remains the same; the ordinary lasts the longest
汹涌如江流
Surging like a river
忐忑似轻舟
Trembling like a light boat
有你相伴
With you by my side
这一路多么多么自由
This journey feels so free
云卷
Clouds unfurl
云舒
Clouds stretch out
风清
The wind is clear
雨骤
The rain is sudden
从立春到立秋
From the beginning of spring to the start of autumn
在那一刻我爱上你的所有
In that moment, I fell in love with all of you
忘了 是新添的垢
Forgetting is the stain newly added
记得 是老套的旧
Remembering is the old, worn cliché
知音 是相拥无言
A soulmate is one you embrace in silence
愿天黑话到明 总归说不够
May we speak through the night, but it's never enough
喧闹如江流
As noisy as a rushing river
宁静似轻舟
As serene as a drifting boat
有你相伴
With you by my side
这一路多么多么无忧
This journey is so carefree
晚霞
The evening glow
朝露
The morning dew
昙花
The fleeting bloom
苍狗
The ever-changing clouds
黑夜不过白昼
The night is merely a part of day
听错了风 又怎么会有以后
If you mishear the wind, how can there be a future?
飘渺似轻舟
Drifting like a light boat
寂寥如江流
Lonely like the river's flow
你不放手/你若放手
If you don't let go / If you let go
这一路何年何月得救
When will this journey find its end?
欢喜
Joy
或者哀愁
Or sorrow
绽放或者不朽
To bloom or to wither
有缘无分 下一世莫回眸
If fate brings us close but not together, don't look back in the next life
真情
True love
难留
Hard to keep
假意
False intentions
未够
Never enough
相守
To stay together
今生有求
There’s a desire in this life
下一世相遇
If we meet in the next life
请别再回眸/请记得回眸
Please don't look back / Please remember to look back
"If we meet in the next life"
"Please don't look back / Please remember to look back"
Damn...
I wonder if it's Zhu Bajie who asks to not look back, or if he's asking for another chance while it's the Spider Lady that's asking him to move on.
The “remember to look back/ please don’t look back” is too good 😢
@@frenkhorsky7633it’s the other way😢 man voice : please don’t look back; woman voice: remember to look back.
@@Hyperallergenicc that's still heartbreaking T_T
@@frenkhorsky7633 Zhubajie's fate is that every reincarnation is a tragic love. In the original work, he often said that he wanted to go back to Gao Laozhuang to live an ordinary life with a wife and children, but he couldn't... Their love is complicated. It is painful to be apart, and even more painful to be together.
The lyrics “i beg you forget me, don’t remember in your next life” “ill never forget you, even in my next life”. Heart breaking
This is how love is, the suffering it bring knows no end.
😢 it hurts
“Yet WE love despite the inevitable.” -Faye of Jotunheim
yep his famous quotes after cursed to become broken hearted in thousand lifetime..
lol one of the zhu bajie quotes from 1996 ver of journey to the west series
Love doesn't hurt, but people who knows no love hurt people who have love.
"Sejak dulu begitulah cinta,deritanya tiada akhir"
--Chu Pat Kay
Nangis gw nonton cutscene nya, di tambah dengan soundtrack nya yg bagus
@@dumbestplayer9757 sama bang 😢
Jangan begitu kakak ke 2😂😭
😭😭😭😭😭
多情自古空余恨 此恨绵绵无绝期--八戒
I haven't played the game, yet i've spoiled myself with its story. Everywhere i see, there always be this post regarding it will be GOTY and never i care about it.
But after watching this scene, I want this game to be the GOTY! It deserves it.
The story was so big, even the novel was so long so even if you got spoiled it's just a fraction of the whole thing knowing this game had multiple endings so far I saw 2 endings.
@@aoihitori Don't brag about the game, okay? There's only two endings. Where's three? You wrote it?
@@王奕博-e5m there I already fixed it, the day I made that comment was when I just finished the "Normal" ending where Destined One accept the Circlet.
Then I saw from comments that it had Normal, Good, & Secret Ending so I thought it had 3 endings. Then after I finished NG+ yesterday it really only had 2 Endings. Sorry for misinformation of 3 endings, I only repeated what other said.
DAMN THIS GAME and its side ANIME parts. God damn. This game took us by storm.
No it's donghua , not anime😊
@@nazwanadwanabilah3011 Donghua = Anime. It's like Astronaut = Cosmonaut. Don't invent more vocabulary for the same thing.
“To GRIEF deeply is to have LOVED, fully.” -Faye of Jotunheim
In the Spyder's eyes, Bajie is always the modt handsome like the frist meeting
No, what the animation expressed was that Bajie has not changed at all, he is very determined. Unfortunately, Spider has changed, but love allows her to retain her humanity.
Here's the real lore:
The first beautiful lady Bajie was chasing is not Chang'e. She's the Daoist godess Tai Yin Star (similar to the loong boss Kang Jin Star, but in charge of a different star of course). In Chinese mythology Tai Yin represents moon, so she's the Daoist moon godess, mistress of Guang Han - the moon palace. The guy stood beside Tai Yin is Jade Emperor himself. Unlike Kang Jin, Tai Yin Star has a very high up place in celestial court, also a secret lover of Jade Emperor, that's why they both have holy light circle behind their heads. Bajie stumbled into their secret date, that's why emperor got so mad (scared too) he not only cast him out of heaven, but also turned him into a pig.
The second girl Bajie ran into is A Chang'e. Originally Chang'e is not a person, nor god, but a title for moon palace maid, servants of Tai Yin. Later myth stories often mistake Chang'e as a person, as "godess of Guang Han". But the real mistress of Guang Han has always been Tai Yin Star, Chang'e are her maid. In the novel Journey to The West, Tai Yin Star once helped Wukong defeated a specific powerful yaoguai, when she descended to the mortal realm, she brought a Chang'e with her.
The fate of that Chang'e was never told by any story, but obviously Game Science now made their own version of explaination: she was cast out too and turned into a spider yaoguai.
In the novel JTTW, 7 spiders and a centipede guai tried to kidnap Wukong's master, Wukong defeated them all. In the Game Science version one of the spiders is that Chang'e, she recognized Bajie and had a wonderful relation with him before everything turned into chaos. Bajie spared her life but he had to continue his journey. Since then she's been waiting for Bajie's return from the west.
妖怪hhh，翻译的好
Isn't Chang'e's husband Hou yi?
@@somachung4214 The real name of Hou Yi's wife is Heng'e (恒娥), people in Han dynasty call her Chang'e to avoid the taboo of Emperor Liu Heng.
@@boliu3540 so Chang'e and heng'e are the same person or different? If they are, then isn't she still the wife to Hou yi? If she is the wife of Hou yi, then doesn't that mean she cheated on Hou yi with the jade emperor ?
@@somachung4214 The story has a lot of versions, the original one only said that Heng'e stole her husband's immortal medicine and flew to the moon, the rest are people's imaginations, after all it's a story been told for 2000 years. Now almost everyone accept the version that she is The Chang'e, but like I said, some have doubts because Chang'e is just a title for moon palace maid. Maybe she then became one of the Chang'e, but who knows, there's no official explaination yet, and probably never will be :)
I'm not crying my soul and my heart is crying it hurts😢
With This I need a Black myth Ba Jie
I want the actual Journey to the West being made by this devs. Imagine if you can switch character between Wukong, Bajoe, and Wunjing to protect Tang Sanzang (the master/monk).
I want Bajie spin off with Spider-Girl.
@julianlim8692 I mean, after 1000 lives of tragic broken loves, they could be finally together, right? Right?
maybe they will make a DLC for Bajie!
@@ThinhLee271,000 times is punishment, and in the end, abandoning love and returning to heaven, unable to have love.
Love is truly the most twisted curse after all.
"game lacks diversity"
I wonder which game journalist have seen a love story between a spider and a pig before.
Yeah im wondering too
An Oscar worthy performance by Pigsy.
I think this is the best portrayal of Bajie and Marshal Tian Peng. It's really beatiful.
I grew up with 1996 TV drama version of Journey to the West. In that version, Tian Peng/Bajie once trying to use the time machine, just woo Chang E at the right moments. Seeing his antics during his falls from grace just to woo Chang E was hirarious.
Bajie's story is too much for me to bear
BLACK MYTH WUKONG GOTY MARK MY WORDS
Don't know about GOTY but if it didn't win best art direction then it's robbed.
@@None38389it is by far the best art direction ive seen in any game ever, cannot be topped at all, its so fucking beautiful and the meanings can be felt so deep
Not until those woke and journos got locked up in Asylum
Not do discreddit the game, cause its a fantastic game, but this year don't offer much competition.
@@digitalmoneyburgeroficial My comment got deleted wow. I said "Not until those wokeys got locked up in the Asylum."
This is better than GOW and GOT. Anyone agree?
no.
gow ragnarok was disappointing trash, i agree
Let say these games have their own charm
Agreed. I'm a huge GOW fan played all 7 games psp included. But the aragoa arc was insufferable. So boring turned me off from doing another playthrough
God of was is boring now
We want Black Myth Bajie
Bajie's story can be a book by its own.
The game's story is already enough to make me wimp, but then the animation came in delivering the kill blows, my tears shed as how cursed Bajie loves. Not only Bajie's love story is painful, but Ox Demon King's life story is tragic as well. This game is a masterpiece.
"So be it. A guileless fool may know less sorrow." what a great quote
Hey who left this bowl of onions here? 😭😢
Props to Game science for making Ba jie's love story more interesting.
You know in his JTTW version,his story is quite a laughingstock because women just admired his human form and chivalry. But this lady is basically his soulmate,he even followed him to the same fate
再看个刀的，他俩的主题曲最后词是如果下一世相遇，
猪八戒：请别再回眸（可能是怕因为再与他相遇会让她再次遭到诸多痛苦）
蜘蛛精：请记得回眸（再来一次她也不怕）
In Chinese,pig is Zhu, and spider is Zhi Zhu, Zhi means know or understand, so the name of two animals may imply “I know you”.
spider zhi is 蜘 while know or understand zhi is 知
these two have no connections at all lol
我的天啊，你的汉字是谁教你的，完全不是你说的意思😂😂😂
一只猪 and 一蜘蛛 发音相同，所以仙子 变成了蜘蛛
This made me cry... she saw the man in him when even when he'd been reduced to a creature. They saw the monsters in each other but couldn't let go of the people they were, even as they tore each other apart.
Mana yang bilang NO DIVERSITY & INCLUSIVITY? Sebenarnya saya sudah tahu cerita Cut Pat Kai, tapi di game ini lebih dramatic diceritakan. Ini adalah PUNCAK DIVERSITY dimana cinta butuh pengorbanan. Menurutku tak ada yang paling berkorban percintaan si babi dan laba2. Demi melindungi si laba2, si babi bersedia dihukum 1000 siksaan reinkarnasi agar langit tidak mencaritahu hubungan sibabi dengan laba2. Karena jika ketahuan bakal dihabisi, swdangkan si laba2 tetap mencintai si only one yakni sibabi sampai ribuan tahun. Sama2 berkorban...
Let me explain. there are two laws in Heavenly Court you should know first, one immortals are not allowed to fall in love with each other; and two, immortal can not come down to earth without permission.（They need to follow the Taoist rules of purity.）
Bajie was originally a general in the Heavenly Court, he admired the Moon God (Taiyin) and met the Moon God's maid (ChangE), but he accidentally saw the Moon God's date with the Jade Emperor.
The Jade Emperor charges Bajie molested CangE and relegates Bajie to the mortal world to be reincarnated as a pig in order to prevent his scandal from spreading.
After that CangE privately descends to earth to looking for bajie. And because of that she became a demon and lost her immortality as penalty
The love story of Zhu Bajie is very heartbreaking, it made me cry. 😭
Imagine a DLC you play through Bajie's story.
Last line of the lyrics in the animation:
If there is a cycle of rebirth,
bajie: Please remember not to look back.
chang'e: Please remember to look back.
Do you know song name
@@AMC8400 勿听
A lyric sings about the man's burden and responsibility for love, and the woman's unregret and dedication to love.
wu ting @@AMC8400
listen not@@AMC8400
Man I remember that time when I am watching JTTW Wukong realy have a hard time to take care of this pig but also realy emotion that this pig have sad trgedy in the past
I'm crying for this :((
Me too😢😭
A sad story indeed. Somehow it reminds me of a rumor that if a woman has to marry one of the four main characters in the Journey to the West, chances are good she would marry Bajie rather than the monkey
Of course... Wukong is actually a sociopath and know nothing about romance at all...
It’s not rumor, it’s truth
I’m Chinese who read the original novel when I was a 4th grader in elementary school. Piggy was trying to lure Chang’e ( The Godess of Moon, also Jade Emperor’s mistress), so Jade Emperor (Gods’ big boss) was pissed off and had him thrown into a pig’s womb to be a pig.
so he was just pervert? Then whats up with spider girl, she had crush on him and searched him or wat
@@munkhtuvshinmt no he’s not a pervert in the original novel. The Jade Emperor wants to stop Buddha’s (a Buddhist king affiliated with the Jade Emperor) advance into Taoist world, so the Jade Emperor arranged for Piggy (the Heavenly Admiral General) to get caught in a scandal. Piggy agreed to the deal. Piggy’s task was to get caught and sent to the earthly world (reincarnated as a pig) to kill Wukong who was pinned under a huge mountain. That’s the plot in the original novel.
In the Video Game, the whole thing was rewritten so that Chang’e fell in love with Piggy, so when Piggy get caught and sent to the earthly world to be a pig. Chang’e chose to be reincarnated as a spider cuz she mistaken “他是只猪”（now he’s a pig) for “他是蜘蛛” (now he’s a spider) cuz the two sentences sound the same in Mandarin. She chose to be a spider to continue their love in the earthly world. It’s complicated. Lol
The Heavenly Court is like the Greek gods in God of War. Wukong is a Kratos that failed at killing and wiping out the entire cast of hypocritical and cruel gods.
Unfortunately Buddha is too powerful for Wukong. I wonder if Kratos can help with that.
@@Classfied1中国の天庭は強権だけではなく、秩序でもあります。孫悟空のような反逆者が居るにたいし、二郎神と哪吒太子のような忠誠と孝行を象徴する神が居ます。物事は白黒両面だけではありません。天庭の存在は不可欠、同時に、それをより合理的にするためには孫悟空のような反逆者も絶えずに出てくるのです。それこそが「天命」、世界の摂理です。現実の社会も同じようなものです。
@@Classfied1ironic. In the books Buddha is kinda chill and only punishes Wu Kong when he threatens to destroy everyone. Also, he was more merciful and wanted Wu Kong to have a chance at redemption. Unlike the rest of the heavenly court that wanted to kill him at the first chance they got.
Agreed.A fun fact,the way Bahje tried to forsake his daughter in order to protect her from being harmed by the Celestial court had a lot of similarities to the way Kratos had to abandoned her daughter Calliope in the Elysium fields to prevent her from being destroyed by the goddess Persephone in the Gow,chains of olympus.They both had the same expression,miserable but still determined to walk away to protect their love one despite the fact they will never had the chance to see them again.
The heaven punishment is not kidding. Bajie was banished from the king of god of heaven. That is very heavy punish. He can't love because if love then the lover must be die, can't recognize owner girl. He can only see in the far place and pray in the next life please don't remember me again. this is beautiful story.
In the original story, he was one of the gods live in above. He love that white hair lady in the opening called Chang'e.Once, he got drunk, and sexually harassed Chang'e.So, he was banished to the mortal world. (The rumor is because the king of above also love Chang'e)However, when he was born in the mortal world, he passed the wrong way and became a pig. In this revised story, he love Chang'e and chasing her.The young fairy and him accidentally smacked into each other.Then, the young fairy fell in love with him, but he still wants to get Chang'e.Well, he found Chang'e and the king of above was cheating on the queen.So, he was banished to the mortal world and met an human girl.When he turned into a pig, the girl broke up with him and made him desperate.At this time, he met the young fairy came to the mortal world for him.And then, the rest part of this you guys should already understand.
As a chinese guy, I cant play this game without crying! 😂
Old Tru wanted her to forget him, there was only pain with him.
She hopes he won't forget her, because without him she only feels miserable
When translating, there are many interesting things that have to be changed to make the meaning easier to understand.
There are a few responses between the two that carry a lot of meaning, but in general, Spider Tinh thinks that being with him is happiness, but Pigsy thinks that being with her will be miserable.
She calls it a cool breeze, he sees it as rain.
He called it noisy, she only saw peace.
He is forgotten, she is longing.
She called it happiness, he just feared it was sadness.
The part that blooms quickly and fades quickly (not that it fades quickly) means you have to change your mind, because this answer is originally Dam Hoa - Thuong Cau. Translated directly, if you listen to it, you don't understand it, not knowing the meaning.😢
Dam Hoa here is from the phrase "Dam Hoa Nhat Ema", which refers to Vi Da (Hoa Quynh blooms only because of Vi Da).
The Dam Hoa in that sentence only blooms because of Vi Da, but the comparison here is:
The story tells that Dam Hoa was originally just a small, very ordinary and weak flower. One day a strong wind blew and Dam Hoa almost couldn't stand it, but at that time a young man passed by to protect him. Damn flowers from that wind. Dam Hoa was touched and fell in love with him. Dam Hoa wondered when he would return. I waited for him for a thousand years, then two thousand years, but he still didn't come back. Spider Tinh is Dam Hoa, and Ba Gioi is Vi Da.
Bat Gioi replied, Thuong Cau, as in the phrase Thuong Cau White Clothes, refers to the clouds in the sky that change unpredictably, just like life changes unpredictably. (This sentence is from Du Phu's poem)
There are a lot of hidden meanings, Chinese music is often mixed, but just translating without understanding the meaning won't reveal everything :(
Beginilah cinta deritanya tiada akhir
Bener-bener cerita epik yang banyak makna mendalamnya sun wu kong ini
This is cruel... Bajie are the victim of gods.. he shouldn't have this fate
To love people, animal , the world around you, you are lucky to live once and have chance to love them
Hoestly I did not expect that a role-play game would have such a touching plot ...
Best Backstories of Zhu bajie ever...
The end of this chapter is so sad and so beautiful at the same time.
So Bajie, from the very beginning, always chasing after the wrong ladies who never loved him for what he is, either being a "lowly" Marshal in Heaven, or a pig monster on Earth. While that fairy lady keeps following him all the way from Heaven to Earth and always accepts him for what he is? And yet, in the end, he still abandoned her for the sake of... enlightenment? Man, love her back and stay with her lah! 😢😢
Doubt its enlightenment, even the narrator states that Bajie attained Buddhahood at the end of the journey but still couldn't shake his nature (lovestruck fool) which he notes, isn't a bad thing. See Chapter 5 for what happens when you defy Heaven's punishment. See what they did to Wukong at the start for the same. Bajie is not as strong as these two people and if Heaven could ruin their lives and the lives of those they love.....he is walking away for their sake.
I think Bajie had to abandon her to protect her from the heavenly curse on him😢
@@northfield9529that’s exactly it see how sad he is that he had to leave
No, bajie is cursed that every love he face in life will be ended with tragedy. He knew this so he try to avoid her so she spared from his curse
你们知道八戒和蜘蛛有一个孩子吗？而且在游戏里打完百目后，在紫云山入口处有棵大树，是棵树龄极高的银杏，后头有个平整的石台，这块空地上多了一座坟墓，碑上刻着，慈母盘丝仙紫
朱儿之墓，面前案几上有一件贡品，珍宝--定颜珠，是八戒放的（转自中国玩家）游戏有很多彩蛋设计的很有意思，大家可以自己挖掘❤
Dari dulu begitulah cinta, deritanya tiada akhir.
Bajie's personality: humorous, lustful, kind-hearted, and likes to eat😂😂😂🤣😘🤣🐽🐽🐽
In Chinese, "a pig and a spider" That translates to “一只猪和一蜘蛛” are pronounced the same, which is a bad joke
Yizhizhuyizhizhu
知足常乐呀！😭
★ This is the story of what happened at the end of chapter 4:
• Tian Peng Yuan Shuai was deeply infatuated with Tai Yin Xing Jun. While persistently pursuing her, he accidentally bumped into Tai Yin Xing Jun's maid, Chang'e. From that moment, Chang'e fell deeply in love with him at first sight. One day, while spying on Tai Yin Xing Jun, he discovered a secret affair between her and the Jade Emperor. Upon being caught, he was banished to the mortal realm.
• In the mortal realm, Tian Peng found love with a noble maiden in Gao family. Their union was blissful until a celestial decree transformed him into the swine-like creature, Zhu Bajie.
• Chang’e, was banished to the mortal realm and transformed into a monstrous arachnid due to her forbidden affection for the mortal, Zhu Bajie. Upon their reunion, they kindled a passionate love, enduring until Zhu Bajie embarked on a pilgrimage to the West with the monk Tang Sanzang. Despite the passage of five centuries, during which she aged into a withered crone, Chang’e persisted in her unwavering devotion, awaiting Zhu Bajie’s eventual return.
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在那一刻我爱上你的所有。这句歌词配上婉转的音调太美了
Spider demon was a beautiful maid served in heavenly court, where she fell in love with the Grant Marshel (Bajie).
This maid was banished from heaven as a punishment for her failure to guard the immortality elixir from the mischievous Monkey King.
She had no complain because it gave her the chance to meet her beloved Marshel again in the mortal realm.
She heard the Marshel descended into mortal realm as a pig, thus she chose to become a spider, because "a pig" sounds the same as "spider" in Chinese.
The Marshel became the pig, was punished to have 1000 lifetime of failure to pursue love.
Thus, he said "in next life please forget about me"
Thus, she said "in next life please remember me"
Bajie had to leave the Spider Spirit to protect her, in order to avoid being hunted down by the Heavenly Court. It's too heartbreaking.
If they ever gonna make the second game. It gonna be Kratos all over again. In the book, most Yaoguai is a pet or family relatives with high court member in Heaven. Root to the core.
I bet they will just focus on other Mythological figures in the second game. Think Nezha or Jiyang Ziya.
And then they said there is no diversity and inclusivity 😂😂😂😂😂
This is beautiful
Spider doesnt mind 1000 lifetimes of sufferiing for love even if pig makes sacrifice of prentending to not know her to protect spider from heavenly court. THIS IS PEAK DIVERSITY 😅😅
Even men can get pregnant in that world 😂
They expect a black jew nazi who prays five times and attain buddhahood as main protagonist
But the game has a lot of different animals, can it be count diversity too?
Also, what do you expect of the diversity when your main character is a literal monkey?
First time when Pigsy finaly gets the limelight .....
Purple Spider: You havent changed a bit
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
“Did you find out? What did he reincarnate into?”
“He became so bad.”
“Spider? Okay”
Beginilah cinta, deritanya tiada akhir -patkai
Ga nyangka Patkai punya masa lalu kayak gini 😢
Sangat iconic~ patkai/cupacie bs ngomong gt krn penantian utk bersama kekasihnya yg tak kunjung dtg
0:45" 😢 i feel his pain when he look up not to let his tears drop, 2:33" 😭
I love this depiction of Baije
2:16 this is certified Chinese Ghibli
Where there is love, there is suffering.
still…. Love is love, no matter how strange it may seem, it’s still remain what it is….. precious.
During their journey to fetch scriptures, Tang Sanzang and his disciples came across seven extremely beautiful spider spirits who were taking a bath. Little did they know that these seven spider spirits were actually the seven fairies in heaven. They were banished to the mortal world due to being implicated in Sun Wukong's stealing of peaches and causing a commotion in the Heavenly Palace. It was Bajie who discovered them first. At a glance, he recognized that one of the fairies was the one who had secretly admired him. As soon as their eyes met, the fairy also immediately recognized her beloved. Later, the two had a romantic encounter, and Bajie quietly saved this fairy. He knew that once Sun Wukong arrived, he would surely kill all of them. After all, that monkey Sun Wukong is naturally cruel and merciless. No monster can escape his cudgel. Moreover, if this matter is known by Tathagata, the consequences would be unimaginable. Because the journey to fetch scriptures is essentially a journey of redemption. Once they have worldly desires, Tathagata will certainly not spare them, and their lovers will also be implicated. Bajie did all this silently and buried this secret deep in his heart.
"Hurry up and find out what Marshal Tianpeng(Bajie) turned into when he was demoted to the mortal world."
"I found out. He turned into a(zhi) pig(zhu)."
"Okay, then I'll turn into a spider(zhi zhu) too."
In fact, almost all the song lyrics in this game and many of the boss's words were written by the controversial CEO Feng Ji. He is truly a genius😂
Here is the complete story for those who want:
Bajie was actually a high rank marshal in heaven and the young girl whom he collided was the previous form of violet spider (a normal fairy in heaven) she fell in love with the marshal at first sight. Soon Bajie was punished by Jade Emperor and sent to earth as a pig for running after and chasing his love the moon lady. The young fairy inquired in the heaven and by mistake she heard the term spider, since pig and spider have the same pronounciation in chinese so she became a spider in order to meet the marshal (now bajie) and by happenstance one day she was bathing in a pond where bajie met her
In the last cutscene video after Zhu bajie falls from heaven and wakes up the girl he saw was her first wife named cuilan. After he showed his actual form by mistake (as he was drunk) she was scared and they were shortly divorced, violet spider was the only lady who loved him despite his ugly looks as a pig and that's why bajie also loved her.
However bajie never kept contact with her and her family (the second sister and some other few spider who calls her mother) in order to save her from the eyes of heaven (as he and his former master son wukong were instructed from celestial court to kill all spider sisters, during journey to the west to attain buddhahood). However bajie spared the life of the violet sister killing all the others (however the second sister survived by some way as we can see her in the game).
The violet spider just stayed alive throughout the years to show bajie her daughter and she wanted him to accept the relationship between them but bajie still cared for their lives and kept silent. That is why you hear violet spider saying "You haven't changed a bit, you fool..."
In fact this story in China has a moral significance. Bajie's rake (the stick in his hand) and violet spider's silk represents the love between "men farming and women weaving" in ancient china.
Edit: In the game it might seem like the violet spider wants to kill Bajie to take revenge for her sisters, but she was probably just playing with him as we can clearly see them joking and laughing at times. But the violet spider was instructed by the centipede (Hundred eyed daiost master) to kill the destined one as a token of gratitude for the relic that he gave her in order to live longer (as spiders have have short lifespan). Also note that this centipede wanted to kill bajie's former master son wukong as bajie said in the game. As the centipede took the relic from the violet spider it could no longer be used by her and she soon died due to very old age as in the cutscene.If not the violet spider wanted to kill his friend the destined one bajie would obviously let her live with the relic till her natural death (as it might increase her life but not grant her immortality). But bajie was conscious of what could happen next so he quickly instructed wukong "Go after her! She has the relic" (otherwise she would be killed by the centipede)
However bajie did visited her grave in the meantime and he used a special preservation orb to preserve her corpse from rotting and keep it fresh for lifelong as a last token of love towards her which can be even found in the game but be sure not to take it, or you will be filled with guilt.
“Hi what happened to Bajie，havent seen him for awhile”
“He was punished to the earthy world as zhi zhu（a pig）”
“oh，as a zhi zhu （spider）ok，i will follow him”
This segment of the story depicts Tianpeng's admiration for the Taiyin Star Lord (not Chang'e). The maid he encountered on the way was actually Chang'e (in this context, "Chang'e" is a title, and all maids of the Taiyin Star Lord are called Chang'e). The Jade Emperor and the Taiyin Star Lord were secretly meeting when Tianpeng stumbled upon them. Fearing for his reputation, the Jade Emperor banished Tianpeng to the mortal world. This Chang'e, who never forgot about Tianpeng, descended to the mortal realm as a spider demon. When the banished Zhu Bajie saw Gao Cuilan at Gao Village, he mistook her for Chang'e and pursued her, but when Gao Cuilan saw Zhu Bajie's true form, she was terrified. Zhu Bajie continued his journey westward and reached the Pansi Cave, where the reincarnated Chang'e (as the spider demon) immediately recognized her beloved pig-headed lover. They fell in love, and Zhu Bajie released the spider demon. Because they had a daughter together, the spider demon waited for Zhu Bajie until her dying day... Due to Zhu Bajie's earlier mistake (confusing Gao Cuilan with Chang'e), the spider demon, before dying, said, "你还是像以前一样笨" ("You're still as foolish as ever"). This remark implied that Zhu Bajie dared not acknowledge them as mother and daughter, fearing retribution from the heavens.
The spider demon actually knew everything. I think she deliberately absorbed one of the "six roots" just to endure long enough to see Zhu Bajie one last time. When she absorbed it, she already knew her fate was sealed, but she had a daughter with Zhu Bajie. She wanted to see Zhu Bajie, to let him see their daughter. When Zhu Bajie spoke harshly, she understood his feelings. The spider demon had long known that meeting Zhu Bajie would mark her death. Zhu Bajie also understood everything; he saw that the spider demon understood his intentions, but he had no other choice. He had to say those hurtful words, wanting to sever ties to protect their daughter and the spider demon. But since the spider demon had absorbed the root, her death was inevitable, and Zhu Bajie could do nothing. Both the spider demon and Zhu Bajie were old spirits, fully aware of everything. They both knew what the other was thinking. The story's conclusion is one of powerlessness and resignation. Although they spoke many words, it conveyed a deeper sense of "相顾无言，唯有泪千行" ("gazing at each other speechlessly, with only tears flowing").
“蜘蛛 只猪” ("Spider" and "just a pig")-in Chinese, these three words sound the same. Chang'e misheard, turning Tianpeng into a pig when she heard "spider." So Chang'e also chose to become a spider.
"你知道天蓬转世成什么了吗？” (“Do you know what Tianpeng was reincarnated as?”)
“你说天蓬啊，他转世成了只猪。” (“You mean Tianpeng? He was reincarnated as a pig.”)
“蜘蛛啊，那我也要变成蜘蛛。” (“A spider? Then I also want to become a spider.”)
Despite never having misheard anything before, she became "deaf" at the moment she decided to descend to the mortal realm, as if fate had already written a script where they were destined to be star-crossed lovers.
A rake, a tool for farming; and silk, used for weaving. The ultimate fantasy of ancient Chinese life: "男耕女织" ("men plow, women weave").
I love this story and hope it helps you guys unfamiliar with the backstory with my understanding.
In the original story of Journey to the West, Bajie was a leader of the Heaven army and was exiled to the world as a pig demon due to flirting with Chang 'e.
At the very beginning of the film, Bajie is chasing after Chang'e, but he accidentally collides with a maidservant, who falls in love with Bajie. Then Bajie anciently finds Chang 'e and high-level immortal adultery (love is forbidden in heaven), that's why Bajie gets exiled as a pig demon. The maidservant followed him down to the world and was reborn as a spider spirit. Eventually, they meet again and have a little girl.
Then, in the story from Journey to the West, the spider spirit's brother (Hundred Eyes, the final chapter boss) wants to eat Tangseng and be defeated by WuKong and Bajie.
Back to the BMW, Bajie didn't kill all the monsters as Wukong said, he kept the spiders alive but had to follow Tangseng and Wukong for the further journey. That's the reason why Bajie looks at the distant dilapidated house at the end of the film, there is his love (maybe he knows nothing about his little girl).
After Wukong died, for some reason, The Hundred Eyes was sent back to the Ziyun mountain (which might be due to the so-called business from heaven), The spider spirit finally met Bajie again and hoped for an unusually late wedding.
I believe Bajie ignored her and their daughter at her end time because Bajie trying to protect them by keeping them away from the struggles and business in heaven.
There is proof of Bajie's love, an 'Easter Egg' can be found at the end of this chapter, we can find a tomb for the spider spirit built by Bajie and an item called 'Zhuyan Zhu' in front of the tomb (I'm not sure the exact name in the English version). This item belongs to Bajie and can keep the appearance never change according to the Journey to the West.
By the way, Chang 'e is often considered the moon goddess and lives on the moon with a pet rabbit in Chinese mythology. Chang 'e is often associated with rabbits, you can see Chang 'e look and hop like a rabbit in the film. These little details are fascinating.
That's also the reason why China's lunar exploration program and its lunar rover are named Chang'e and Yuetu (Moon Rabbit). A little Chinese romance.
This is how you do video game story telling. American studios like Bungie, Respawn and Rocksteady should take notice. This is how its done, This is how to engage with Modern Gamers who are the actual fabled Modern Audience they keep chasing.
Welcome to the dark side of the journey of the west
In fact, there are many ancient Chinese novels that are even more explosive, such as Fengshen Yanyi, where King Zhou of Shang has sex with foxes and jade stones, not to mention another novel called Liaozhai, which is full of human ghost and human demon love. Chinese people played lgbtq hundreds of years ago
I couldn't help but imagine what if they put by Lowell Lo (一生所爱)， or some modern remake to the scene. As a homage, this would be truly incredible. Haven't played the game yet but this story really drew me in.
The Taoist priest in the game told the player that she was a female immortal at the time. It was said that Marshal Tianpeng was thrown into the mortal world by the Jade Emperor and turned into a pig. In Chinese, turning into a pig and turning into a spider are pronounced the same. , she heard wrongly and was reincarnated as a spider. She kept waiting for Bajie.
给大家解释一下，天蓬元帅被贬成八戒成为一只猪，被他的爱人听成了蜘蛛“（蜘蛛）和（只猪）发音一样”所以她放弃百年修行得来的位置自愿转世成为蜘蛛精只为再见八戒一眼，再见的时候也用着初见的妆容怕八戒忘记
太感人了