THIS operator is the best I've seen on this channel of misfits and questionable machines. He actually knows his stuff and it shows in the little things he does.
@@codprawnI noticed that as well. Using a scrap piece on top of the tool shank is what we were taught in tech college many years ago to preserve the tool shank and prevent swaging damage. I still do it that way to this day.
You are absolutely right. But, having made literally thousands of pounds of steel chips in my 60 year career as a machinist. Even most steels will break chips with the right tool, speeds and feeds. Cast iron isn’t steel. It always breaks. It is inherent in its properties. Steel must be bent to break. This is done with a chip breaker ground into the cutting tool. A thicker chip will break easier than thin chips, making higher feeds more useful when hogging. There are always trade offs, but there is rarely no good excuse for such long and stingy chips.
You stole my words however, the type of steel is unknown. The operator's talent is knowing how to input numeric values on the calculator for the proper change gears to use for the gear pitch and major gear diameter.
You have to factor in that in a culture where people have little,little goes to waste. That long stringy swarf is far easier to collect and sell on too!
@@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 It's much easier to collect small chips, long stringy chips take up far more space and are more difficult to handle. If you have chips 1/2 to 1 inch long you can fill a 50 gallon drum with far less unused space Vs chips in the 12 inch length range. His access to tooling is less then in western countries where you could just tell you tooling supplier what you want and he'll have to you next day. I'd imagine he has to make comprises with tooling, and likely having a tool that does many jobs is more important then chip uniformity. The fact that you can just walk down a street hand him your old part and he'll make you a new one for I'm sure extremely reasonable price is pretty damn cool.
Thanks hydroman99 ! I don't want to watch the video but wanted to make sure someone pointed out that "Mechanical Skills" is a UA-cam "influencer" who is miseducating our youth with his lack of due diligence and self education on his subject matter. I think it is awesome that anyone can make a good living with hard work, by posting on UA-cam. I just wish those who choose to do so would have enough self respect to teach the correct science (metallurgy in this case).
@@kevinsellsit5584 Look up the definition of metallurgy and you’ll see that it has NOTHING to do with this video. I guess you need some more education now…
I HATE it when the videos have “inserts” promoting the next video that obscures the results of all the work, why why why?? The skill here is undeniable. Overcoming the worn machines’ limitations is very impressive as well as the carefully planned order of work. But I submit there is no need no matter the place or poverty to settle for a dirty and cluttered work space. They don’t have to be as show-boat clean or well-maintained as Japan, Germany, UK, or US but there is no excuse for the level of dirt and debris shown in the video. It is a matter of attitude and culture that allows it.
This is not Geniuses it’s a trade. It’s called Fitter and Turner or Fitter Machinist. Would you call a plumber or mechanic a genius if you had never seen one at work? Watching these guys work is quite scary. They put their fingers where they should never be put and they don’t wear safety glasses. By the way that is not cast iron. :)
@@Usmanthemecano I stand by my comment. It’s not genius and if my boss had of seen me put my fingers where those guys did he would have kicked me in the arse and said don’t come back. Other people should not watch this and think that clearing the swarf out of a keyway with your bare fingers while the machine is still running is a safe thing to do. Most people who do that are nick named Stumpy.
Thank you Davo, All this ingeniousness and expertise in trades is mostly rubbish because it all generally happens unseen and people with non type background have not a clue. Its why trades have 5 year apprenticeships and a certain level of education. Its what we are trained to do. There are many trades and skills that I admire their level of skill and expertise , but in the end its whats involved and expected in various trades. And as far as safety goes "whats that ?? " Unfortunately life is cheap in those countries and profits are marginal at best, so safety gear and training come down on the list of priorities. Sad but true
@@ScatManAust I’m an old Machinist and I still have 10 fingers but I know one false move and I could have them off. Safty boils down to not being lazy or not being trained. One skill i have learned over the years if you ever hear the little voice in your head say “I should be careful doing this” stop right there! You are about to stab your self with a screwdriver (for example) Maybe I should look up the definition on Genius 🤠
This guys got some very creative way of thinking but man does his house keeping skills leave one to question weather his laziness is not worth the talent !
Eerst de machine schoonmaken, voordat je aan een nieuwe klus begint. Minder grote aanzet en grotere voeding voorkomt lintspanen. Deze man is handig, maar ook gevaarlijk bezig. Jammer.
The Material is never a Cast Iron Bar it looks a good quality Steel, check the swarf or chips. A Measuring Instrument ( Vernier Calliper) should have not been used as a Marking Tool. Hard Work appreciable.
If they had all new machines but didn't remove the waste or sweep the floor, or clean the equipment, and kept tightening chucks like there's no tomorrow, it would be like it is now in a year, but look newer.
Doubt that it is a cast iron bar. Cuts more like steel which is a better choice. No-one in their right mind would do this much work to produce a cast iron pinion.
I find these videos interesting. Could these guys do it safer? Sure. But bad habits are hard to break. People still smoke cigarettes while pumping gas. People are on cellphones too. Subtracting the unsafe practice and steps missing(like heat treatment), this work is decent. Some of this skill is a lost art. 3d printing and CNC mills and lathes can crank out parts quickly. But can someone make these parts like these guys without a computer? Bravo to these guys who make a living doing dangerous work without safety glasses/goggles/face shields. Leather gloves to remove the steel(not iron) shrapnel/ razor wire. No safety shoes. No temperature control. No hearing protection. No safety stops(or bypassed) etc.
Firstly that's not cast iron round bar, secondly I would not want to work anywhere that machinist, with those dangerous conditions, one day he will get himself ripped to shreds, with all those shavings, and also removing them while the machine is running, no genius here!!!
I'm astounded, have watched a number of these, noting along the way the state of the ark equipment they work with But this workshop is the first I've seen using a computer, o.k it was a calculator, these guys are going places It's rumoured they have an electrical kettle, I doubt that
@@38911bytefree I've seen some of those vids, nothing complicated about using a furnace What I want to know is where they buy their safety gear from, the polyester loose fitting shirt and trousers combination as well as the safety sandals ?
Things I've learned in this video: Cast iron machines as steel, chipbreakers in your lathe tool are evil, stop the lathe chuck by hand when the jaws produte, check first with a micrometer, then attack the part ferociously with a file, clean the milling chips with a finger close to the endmill, never ever attemp to clean a machine: The chips add mass and rigidity, and very important: Machining is a force and speed contest, the fastest and strongest machinist win...be sure to tight everything with all of your force.
Dude, when you don't have a cutter with a replaceable plate and you need to keep a soldered tool, a chip breaker is a real evil. This halves the possibility of a new sharpening, and for a real master this is tangible money. As for cleaning the machine, this turner plows in a day so that the word "meow" is pronounced at the end of the day by letters, and I understand it perfectly, it's not about the CNC sitting on a chair and removing finished parts.
One of my main concerns is the type of chips he makes. When I was a youngster I learned how to grind a chip breaker in high speed steel tools. I did see a coworker get tangled-up in such stringy chips. He nearly lost his arm. BE SAFE.
This "genius" doesn't understand that making continues blue chip is incorrect. He is overloading the motor with too heavy a cut and no lubricant. He'll wear out the tool it and motor. Also those "chips" pose cutting danger to the worker. I'm a metalwork teacher and teach the correct use of lathes. This guy is an amateur at best
@@paulfredriksteiner Singlets and thongs are attire for beach going, not working in a metal workshop. How would you like one of those shafts fall on your toes.You'd be a cripple for life. The whole place is a joke.
Life in Pakistan is cheap, if a guy winds up missing a hand he essentially starves and they find a new machinist. Safety guards? Who needs em? When I was there they really didn’t have it together to have clean water and sanitation, much less picking up the he dead.
@@Slick1G3 You've obviously never been in a machine shop before, these machines are fine. There is nothing "Genius" happening in this video, they are using the correct tools for the parts they are making , albeit in an incredibly unsafe manner.
Older machines are preferable to modern ones in small shops like this, unless you've got big bucks to spend on state of the art CNC, you simply can't beat the reliabilty and rigidity of old school cast iron. I have a small workshop in my garage, my mill is a Centec 2B date stamped 1958, my lathe is a Longbed Myford Super 7 from around the 60's - 70's. For manual machines they'll outperfrom anything you can currently get brand new and at a fraction of the cost.
Remember those days well, that's how my engineering days started. So 57 years ago. No fancy computer tech. That's a special gear cutting machine designed for the job. Not cast iron, no proper chip break on the tool. Will require surface hardening and tempering for long term use. Pretty basic stuff.
Never heard of chipbreaker tooling I guess. That hay could be a death sentence. Typical pajama floppy sandal sweatshop. Painful to watch, expect an accident any second. Love the bastard file finish to size. Don't even have a lathe file
Indeed they are. Idiots that probably couldn't use a CNC machine, let alone a lathe from the 1940s or 50s or 60s... "Oh noes!! I can't read these confusing knobs!!!!!"
So true Neil ,they make me Piss ,what they are saying !!Thats proper Old School Machining ,been there for many years ,no CNC ,s job on job off ,small Machine Shop ,Clean out at the end of the day ,Gear Cutting Too,Great Job Boys !👍👍👍👍👏👏👏
Indeed so. I bet most of the people leaving comments have never owned a lathe. I have 11 I think now. I am just an amateur. I can do very precise work but I take forever. I could never make a living at it.
When roughing a part like this you need to slow the rpms and increase the feed rate. This also helps break chips instead of the dangerous razor sharp strands. It's also faster and puts the heat into the chips and off of the part. Genius? Not quite.
moi j'aurais dégrossi toute la pièce a 1 mm de la cote finale ensuite j'aurais vidé mon bac a copeaux pour être en sécurité pour pas que les copeaux s'enroulent autour du mandrin et les gorges de circlips je les auraient fait a la fin en mettant le modèle sur la machine a chaque fois pour faciliter le travail conseil dun tourneur et fraiseur depuis 41 ans , bon courage a vous
I use these videos as exercises for new fitter/machinist students to watch and identify dangerous workshop practices that can become dangerous accepted habits - keeping the workplace clean is a very important part of the job - I used to visit many machine shops and could tell the professionalism of the work team by the cleanliness and order of the equipment . when I was pricing a job I would include cleaning the machine and work area as part of the cost of the job - as an apprentice that was the first task to learn - cleanliness and safety of the work area - second lesson was to cultivate a safe attitude and respect for the machine - third lesson was to identify a dangerous situation and be compelled to act to minimise or eliminate the danger -
@@juju-rt8ek … don’t look like who? Still nothing wrong with how they look, it’s the way they behave. The fact is some cultures are better than others.
@@andyxox4168 they are genius to accomplish what they do with what they have. They are desperate to make money, poor infrastructure. They are leaders in tech and medicine. They are the major contributors in our big companies in America. Americans made fun of the Japanese, now Chinese manufacturing.
@@andyxox4168 How does culture tie into proper workshop protocol or safety? It seems you just wanted to drop a snarky comment about this culture and took the opportunity. I've seen old Germans in workshops handle bench drills like a toy. Clearly its not a matter of culture here then, but more about a person having enough confidence and experience working with a machine to avoid injury without taking safety precautions.
yeah genius isnt the word i would have used. dangerous and slack more like it. jesus, resting your hand on a spinning chuck, bearing fits with vernier tolerance, hammering your gear change in place with a spanner...
Jaki z niego geniusz jak nie potrafi naostrzyć noża żeby łamał wióry.Sam kiedyś zginie od wstążkowego wióra.Pół wieku temu w Rosji była stosowana w obróbce tokarskiej metoda szybkościowej obróbki zwana metodą Stachanowa , ale skończyła się kilkoma trupami i rozwaleniem tokarek. Myślałem , że to już się skonczyło , ale widzę , że jeszcze niedouczeni tokarze to próbują i walczą z wiórami. Do tego materiał jest z zupełnie innej bajki.Kawałek złomu z niskiej jakości stali.
неплохо,а у меня ума не хватает косозубку рассчитать в уме. гитара дифференциала сложновато считается,зато сыну объяснил зачем синусы учить надо и дроби 😊
India steel is not expensive, I wish I had a few tonnes of stock laying around, sure his workplace is a real HAZARD in the making, but hey they are free to do whatever, without some inspector from OSH, Work safety telling them what to do,
The tooth profiles do not look anything alike. The teeth are going to grind and slide and heat up and wear out quite quickly. That is, even if the part is heat treated, which is unlikely.
It's useless if not heat treated, so why not just anneal & weld up the old one? Gotta be quicker & better then a probably unknown steel and you've got the old tooth profile to follow.
I've had to operate my own Machine Shop to First World standards for 50 years and I probably should be angry at myself for not moving to one of these countries where I could have taken so many short cuts if I wanted to take advantage of really cheap labour, non existent health and safety laws and customers' lack of interest in demanding high standards from their suppliers. No wonder manufacturing industries in the West are dying - how can we possibly compete?
Congratulations to the inventor of the Renania milling machine, and thanks be to God for the fact that the mechanic has the milling spool exactly the same as the part. Without the milling machine and without the exact milling snail, he wouldn't do the copy even with 1000 priests praying around him! Please stop calling a mechanic a genius just because he did his job.
this is not genius nor cast iron. great click bait! I do enjoy watching the old machines still work. the video was worth watching but the idiot who wrote the title shouldn't be misleading people especially the young people who seam to take everything they learn online as fact and turn around and regurgitate it to others. props to the guy running the machine.
As soon as he removed the workpiece from the chuck and turned it around he lost all concentricity (didn’t even check with a dial gauge! …. 3 jaw chucks aren’t that good when new and I’m sure that one is worse than most.
When I see those flow chips, I get goosebumps all over. When I see him pulling on those with pliers while the machine is still running, it gets even worse. He uses up all his luck all day long.
Great job. I wouldn't say 'genius' however. Gear making has been done for 2500 plus years. And most modern countries began using helical gear machines like this 90 years ago. Of course everyone else has moved on but Pakistan is still using technology the British gave them 60 years ago.........
These work is done on street like shops not in modern factories, when rhe part not available, people or mechanic goes to this shops and these people do their work and let the wheel run in pakistan, they are not wealthy people to replace their machines with modern one
I used to work in a machine shop a nice clean area always had a clean workstation I don't see how they can work in filth and when you're doing your calipers you don't throw your calipers down on the machine you don't hit them on things micrometers you don't tighten up on the micrometers when you're measuring something you use your finger to turn it and lay it really soft on the thing that you're cutting you don't tighten up on the micrometers
Lol in the usa with big machines and all the digital tools and cnc's on the planet this takes 2 days and 5 guys walking around debating what to do next lololol.
The real heroes here are the poor Japanese machines that have to toil away under heavy handed machine operators year after year with no maintenance or cleaning. LOL
I understand that there are many cost prohibitive constraints and some cultural differences when it comes to the prioritization of safety. But guys, you've got to include a chip breaker on that tooling (it only requires more labor, which if I understand correctly is not the limitation there). You can't be running a lathe if you don't have any fingers.
Yes we can all criticise but the job got done with the resources available. Another machine kept working & a can do attitude. Well done! These are the sort of positive people the world needs more of, getting the job done without a hundred excuses!
@@ypaulbrown They guy shooting the video has no clue what material is being used, it's obviously some grade of steel. I hope he's sharing any profits from You Tube/Google although I doubt it In the USA that would probably be a $2000.00 machine job and take 3 months (unless it was a defense contractor, then it would over un by 6 months and cost $20,000)
Must be in Pakistan as they have very good metal workers there..But not cast iron just steel so is the part going to work or even be able to last ???????
THIS operator is the best I've seen on this channel of misfits and questionable machines. He actually knows his stuff and it shows in the little things he does.
Yes indeed. Taught me one thing. Use a packing piece on top of the tool stop the screws digging into the tool.
@@codprawnI noticed that as well. Using a scrap piece on top of the tool shank is what we were taught in tech college many years ago to preserve the tool shank and prevent swaging damage. I still do it that way to this day.
This material is not cast iron, it is steel. Cast iron does not form long, continuous chips.
You are absolutely right. But, having made literally thousands of pounds of steel chips in my 60 year career as a machinist. Even most steels will break chips with the right tool, speeds and feeds. Cast iron isn’t steel. It always breaks. It is inherent in its properties. Steel must be bent to break. This is done with a chip breaker ground into the cutting tool. A thicker chip will break easier than thin chips, making higher feeds more useful when hogging. There are always trade offs, but there is rarely no good excuse for such long and stingy chips.
You stole my words however, the type of steel is unknown. The operator's talent is knowing how to input numeric values on the calculator for the proper change gears to use for the gear pitch and major gear diameter.
You have to factor in that in a culture where people have little,little goes to waste. That long stringy swarf is far easier to collect and sell on too!
@@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 It's much easier to collect small chips, long stringy chips take up far more space and are more difficult to handle.
If you have chips 1/2 to 1 inch long you can fill a 50 gallon drum with far less unused space Vs chips in the 12 inch length range.
His access to tooling is less then in western countries where you could just tell you tooling supplier what you want and he'll have to you next day.
I'd imagine he has to make comprises with tooling, and likely having a tool that does many jobs is more important then chip uniformity.
The fact that you can just walk down a street hand him your old part and he'll make you a new one for I'm sure extremely reasonable price is pretty damn cool.
yep i.ts forged steel thats for sure
Totally not "cast iron" as stated in the title. Thank the gods, steel will be much stronger.
Knew someone would’ve beat me to it. Obv not cast iron!
Thanks hydroman99 ! I don't want to watch the video but wanted to make sure someone pointed out that "Mechanical Skills" is a UA-cam "influencer" who is miseducating our youth with his lack of due diligence and self education on his subject matter. I think it is awesome that anyone can make a good living with hard work, by posting on UA-cam. I just wish those who choose to do so would have enough self respect to teach the correct science (metallurgy in this case).
My thoughts entirely.
What about the hardening process 🤔
@@kevinsellsit5584 Look up the definition of metallurgy and you’ll see that it has NOTHING to do with this video. I guess you need some more education now…
I HATE it when the videos have “inserts” promoting the next video that obscures the results of all the work, why why why?? The skill here is undeniable. Overcoming the worn machines’ limitations is very impressive as well as the carefully planned order of work. But I submit there is no need no matter the place or poverty to settle for a dirty and cluttered work space. They don’t have to be as show-boat clean or well-maintained as Japan, Germany, UK, or US but there is no excuse for the level of dirt and debris shown in the video. It is a matter of attitude and culture that allows it.
This is not Geniuses it’s a trade. It’s called Fitter and Turner or Fitter Machinist.
Would you call a plumber or mechanic a genius if you had never seen one at work?
Watching these guys work is quite scary. They put their fingers where they should never be put and they don’t wear safety glasses.
By the way that is not cast iron. :)
You're very salty for no reason
@@Usmanthemecano
I stand by my comment. It’s not genius and if my boss had of seen me put my fingers where those guys did he would have kicked me in the arse and said don’t come back. Other people should not watch this and think that clearing the swarf out of a keyway with your bare fingers while the machine is still running is a safe thing to do. Most people who do that are nick named Stumpy.
Thank you Davo,
All this ingeniousness and expertise in trades is mostly rubbish because it all generally happens unseen and people with non type background have not a clue.
Its why trades have 5 year apprenticeships and a certain level of education.
Its what we are trained to do.
There are many trades and skills that I admire their level of skill and expertise , but in the end its whats involved and expected in various trades.
And as far as safety goes "whats that ?? " Unfortunately life is cheap in those countries and profits are marginal at best, so safety gear and training come down on the list of priorities.
Sad but true
@@ScatManAust I’m an old Machinist and I still have 10 fingers but I know one false move and I could have them off.
Safty boils down to not being lazy or not being trained. One skill i have learned over the years if you ever hear the little voice in your head say “I should be careful doing this” stop right there! You are about to stab your self with a screwdriver (for example)
Maybe I should look up the definition on Genius 🤠
И ведь где-то их обучают такой сложной работе
thank you
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This guys got some very creative way of thinking but man does his house keeping skills leave one to question weather his laziness is not worth the talent !
Even the video title is wrong. That's not a piece of cast iron. Cast iron chips are fine back dust, not stringy bits
The first video where work was done with the correct tools...and then they dump the finished part in the dirt.
Eerst de machine schoonmaken, voordat je aan een nieuwe klus begint. Minder grote aanzet en grotere voeding voorkomt lintspanen. Deze man is handig, maar ook gevaarlijk bezig. Jammer.
A masterpiece, perfect work and that with such old machines.
not so perfect when he has to run a file on it but the easiest thing to do to compensate for the sloppiness of the machine i guess
Ok, but where is second part of production process? I mean thermal treatment like hardening, tempering...? What kind of steel was used?
extraordinario.... estas personas de la nada fabrican verdaderas obras de arte con desechos impresionante ... felicitaciones...........
The Material is never a Cast Iron Bar it looks a good quality Steel, check the swarf or chips. A Measuring Instrument ( Vernier Calliper) should have not been used as a Marking Tool. Hard Work appreciable.
It would be great to send them machining jobs. Machining is expensive in the US.
I can’t believe he’s wearing flip flops! That’s hilarious!
Just think about what work these guys could do if they had the tools like Kurtis of CEE
If they had all new machines but didn't remove the waste or sweep the floor, or clean the equipment, and kept tightening chucks like there's no tomorrow, it would be like it is now in a year, but look newer.
Yeah, no that’s not cast iron.
If it isn't hardened it will shrewd!
Feed rate is too slow,get it chip breaking and increase your feed.
"Genius" is one hell of a stretch.
Not CAST IRON The chips are Steel.
Every lathe worker knows safety like his 3 fingers
nothing cast iron about it
This round bar is NOT cast iron. It is steel.
Well were the hell did you think they came from the gear ferry!
The voices in the back ground are sped up but it looks like he’s moving at normal speed is he really super slow and it’s sped up
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Doubt that it is a cast iron bar. Cuts more like steel which is a better choice. No-one in their right mind would do this much work to produce a cast iron pinion.
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Most people: this is neat!
People that have interacted with OSHA: is that guy really wearing sandals?
I find these videos interesting. Could these guys do it safer? Sure. But bad habits are hard to break. People still smoke cigarettes while pumping gas. People are on cellphones too. Subtracting the unsafe practice and steps missing(like heat treatment), this work is decent. Some of this skill is a lost art. 3d printing and CNC mills and lathes can crank out parts quickly. But can someone make these parts like these guys without a computer? Bravo to these guys who make a living doing dangerous work without safety glasses/goggles/face shields. Leather gloves to remove the steel(not iron) shrapnel/ razor wire. No safety shoes. No temperature control. No hearing protection. No safety stops(or bypassed) etc.
Firstly that's not cast iron round bar, secondly I would not want to work anywhere that machinist, with those dangerous conditions, one day he will get himself ripped to shreds, with all those shavings, and also removing them while the machine is running, no genius here!!!
I'm astounded, have watched a number of these, noting along the way the state of the ark equipment they work with
But this workshop is the first I've seen using a computer, o.k it was a calculator, these guys are going places
It's rumoured they have an electrical kettle, I doubt that
Не переживай! Скоро ты выкинешь свой айфон на помойку!
I bet he can do the job far better than you ever will.
I have seen dozens of vids of castng and they use induction furnaces which are a bit more complex than a calculator.
@@38911bytefree I've seen some of those vids, nothing complicated about using a furnace
What I want to know is where they buy their safety gear from, the polyester loose fitting shirt and trousers combination
as well as the safety sandals ?
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I made one of these as an apprentice at British Steel back in the 80's. Does that make me a genius?
Thats why india many enginier... Good job
I think the guy on the spline cutter has done that before.... 🤔🤣😀😎
NOT CAST IRON ! Would just break apart in use! Please put only correct titles !? Cheers
That's not cast iron. It's steel.
What a comments, I just love to see them make something out of nothing. Great job gentlemen
Ballin" toolpost lol
They know how to turn metal. But that's swarf build up is safety hazard. Can someone please pass this message to that's guy.
Lathe changed the world..
Excelente trabajo impresionante nivel experto mis respetos maestro
That is a forging not cast iron
Eso está recalentado ,más aceite más aceite para enfriar
No dejen los videos a medias o sin un final
Where is thermal hardning?)) Or customer come back within one week?))
if it can be done in cast iron it can be done in steel !
Things I've learned in this video: Cast iron machines as steel, chipbreakers in your lathe tool are evil, stop the lathe chuck by hand when the jaws produte, check first with a micrometer, then attack the part ferociously with a file, clean the milling chips with a finger close to the endmill, never ever attemp to clean a machine: The chips add mass and rigidity, and very important: Machining is a force and speed contest, the fastest and strongest machinist win...be sure to tight everything with all of your force.
20 bucks says you can't even grind a HSS tool bit and wear gloves around rotating machinery.
@@mathewmolk2089 ，，，，
Thats the way they do it. No wonder so many die in workshop accidents.
And yet, it still came out fine ….
Dude, when you don't have a cutter with a replaceable plate and you need to keep a soldered tool, a chip breaker is a real evil. This halves the possibility of a new sharpening, and for a real master this is tangible money. As for cleaning the machine, this turner plows in a day so that the word "meow" is pronounced at the end of the day by letters, and I understand it perfectly, it's not about the CNC sitting on a chair and removing finished parts.
The material he is cutting is, NOT, cast iron Cast iron does makes powdery, flakey , small chips
One of my main concerns is the type of chips he makes. When I was a youngster I learned how to grind a chip breaker in high speed steel tools. I did see a coworker get tangled-up in such stringy chips. He nearly lost his arm. BE SAFE.
lol be safe is not an option there they smelt steel and move it around wearing sandals:) but they do a exelent job tho
You're worried about his safety when he doesn't even wear shoes or safety glasses?
He might make rubbish chips but his chicken biryani is top notch!
This "genius" doesn't understand that making continues blue chip is incorrect. He is overloading the motor with too heavy a cut and no lubricant. He'll wear out the tool it and motor. Also those "chips" pose cutting danger to the worker. I'm a metalwork teacher and teach the correct use of lathes. This guy is an amateur at best
@@paulfredriksteiner Singlets and thongs are attire for beach going, not working in a metal workshop. How would you like one of those shafts fall on your toes.You'd be a cripple for life. The whole place is a joke.
You have to give these guys credit for a great job done on some very old machines. The safety matter is another issue.
Life in Pakistan is cheap, if a guy winds up missing a hand he essentially starves and they find a new machinist. Safety guards? Who needs em? When I was there they really didn’t have it together to have clean water and sanitation, much less picking up the he dead.
you can hear it in these old machines how wore out they are
@@Slick1G3 You've obviously never been in a machine shop before, these machines are fine. There is nothing "Genius" happening in this video, they are using the correct tools for the parts they are making , albeit in an incredibly unsafe manner.
Older machines are preferable to modern ones in small shops like this, unless you've got big bucks to spend on state of the art CNC, you simply can't beat the reliabilty and rigidity of old school cast iron. I have a small workshop in my garage, my mill is a Centec 2B date stamped 1958, my lathe is a Longbed Myford Super 7 from around the 60's - 70's. For manual machines they'll outperfrom anything you can currently get brand new and at a fraction of the cost.
Wobble, wobble wobble. Amazing how people have to make do with less and make it work.
Remember those days well, that's how my engineering days started. So 57 years ago. No fancy computer tech. That's a special gear cutting machine designed for the job. Not cast iron, no proper chip break on the tool. Will require surface hardening and tempering for long term use.
Pretty basic stuff.
Я уже начал переживать, что не бросит готовое изделие на земли. Но все обошлось, бросил.
Интересно, они вообще закалку и отпуск шестеренок делают.
Ну тут зачет - а то обычно электродом зубья наварят и правят болгаркой ... Это прям инновации ужо
Never heard of chipbreaker tooling I guess. That hay could be a death sentence. Typical pajama floppy sandal sweatshop. Painful to watch, expect an accident any second. Love the bastard file finish to size. Don't even have a lathe file
Smartarse aren't you. He's done well considering the poor facilities he has to work with. Couldn't see you doing it.
it's not genius, it's common way of making gears
He is genius because still using a 100 years old machine.
@@raufjaleel8317 Probably easier to use that a modern one with electronics and computers all over the show.
No way that’s cast iron….that is steel for sure…those stringy chips are killers!
Ha! I came here to say this. I was suspicious but as soon as I saw the chips I knew. Iron smh
Yeah buddy, get the apprentice to clear those finger removers out.
Nice work
I was surprised that he didn't use some cutting fluid, I actually felt sorry for the cutting tool that was taking such deep cuts.
@@potrzebieneuman4702 it was invisible cutting fluid I saw it lol
I see the keyboard master machinists are out in force today.
Indeed they are. Idiots that probably couldn't use a CNC machine, let alone a lathe from the 1940s or 50s or 60s... "Oh noes!! I can't read these confusing knobs!!!!!"
So true Neil ,they make me Piss ,what they are saying !!Thats proper Old School Machining ,been there for many years ,no CNC ,s job on job off ,small Machine Shop ,Clean out at the end of the day ,Gear Cutting Too,Great Job Boys !👍👍👍👍👏👏👏
Indeed so. I bet most of the people leaving comments have never owned a lathe. I have 11 I think now. I am just an amateur. I can do very precise work but I take forever. I could never make a living at it.
When roughing a part like this you need to slow the rpms and increase the feed rate. This also helps break chips instead of the dangerous razor sharp strands. It's also faster and puts the heat into the chips and off of the part. Genius? Not quite.
We do same thing and We far from a geniuses .If We were own the company.There is a lot more to cutting gears and it’s a trade of its own.
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No job is complete there until its rolled into the dirt and oil to make sure it fails in 6 months for repeat business.
Job security....
moi j'aurais dégrossi toute la pièce a 1 mm de la cote finale ensuite j'aurais vidé mon bac a copeaux pour être en sécurité pour pas que les copeaux s'enroulent autour du mandrin et les gorges de circlips je les auraient fait a la fin en mettant le modèle sur la machine a chaque fois pour faciliter le travail conseil dun tourneur et fraiseur depuis 41 ans , bon courage a vous
The upkeep and cleanliness of the equipment and area is second to none...😳🍻
Never understood why the last stage is always just chuck it on the floor and roll it around in the dirt
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I use these videos as exercises for new fitter/machinist students to watch and identify dangerous workshop practices that can become dangerous accepted habits - keeping the workplace clean is a very important part of the job - I used to visit many machine shops and could tell the professionalism of the work team by the cleanliness and order of the equipment . when I was pricing a job I would include cleaning the machine and work area as part of the cost of the job - as an apprentice that was the first task to learn - cleanliness and safety of the work area - second lesson was to cultivate a safe attitude and respect for the machine - third lesson was to identify a dangerous situation and be compelled to act to minimise or eliminate the danger -
It’s the 3rd world, living and working in sh1t is second nature!
Because they don't look like you ?
@@juju-rt8ek … don’t look like who?
Still nothing wrong with how they look, it’s the way they behave. The fact is some cultures are better than others.
@@andyxox4168 they are genius to accomplish what they do with what they have. They are desperate to make money, poor infrastructure. They are leaders in tech and medicine. They are the major contributors in our big companies in America.
Americans made fun of the Japanese, now Chinese manufacturing.
@@andyxox4168 How does culture tie into proper workshop protocol or safety? It seems you just wanted to drop a snarky comment about this culture and took the opportunity. I've seen old Germans in workshops handle bench drills like a toy. Clearly its not a matter of culture here then, but more about a person having enough confidence and experience working with a machine to avoid injury without taking safety precautions.
yeah genius isnt the word i would have used. dangerous and slack more like it. jesus, resting your hand on a spinning chuck, bearing fits with vernier tolerance, hammering your gear change in place with a spanner...
Genius! That’s laying it on a bit thick mate, time to recalibrate your understanding of genius dude!
Jaki z niego geniusz jak nie potrafi naostrzyć noża żeby łamał wióry.Sam kiedyś zginie od wstążkowego wióra.Pół wieku temu w Rosji była stosowana w obróbce tokarskiej metoda szybkościowej obróbki zwana metodą Stachanowa , ale skończyła się kilkoma trupami i rozwaleniem tokarek. Myślałem , że to już się skonczyło , ale widzę , że jeszcze niedouczeni tokarze to próbują i walczą z wiórami.
Do tego materiał jest z zupełnie innej bajki.Kawałek złomu z niskiej jakości stali.
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неплохо,а у меня ума не хватает косозубку рассчитать в уме.
гитара дифференциала сложновато считается,зато сыну объяснил зачем синусы учить надо и дроби 😊
Еще бы научились резцы точить и режимы резания подбирать,вообще бы шикарно было.А калить будут или сыромятину поставят?
Оооооо, у них штангель появился и ещё микрометр, а как он лапу магнитную поставил и ИЧ я вааще выпал. 😂😂😂
@@Alex_N_Nov а когда посадочное фрезы тряпочкой протер 😎то стало видно что не всё так плохо с культурой производства.
Hobbing machin for more than 100 years
Unbelievable.
And still working perfectly.
@@raufjaleel8317 YES It's been made in Japan for about 50 years.probably
India steel is not expensive, I wish I had a few tonnes of stock laying around, sure his workplace is a real HAZARD in the making, but hey they are free to do whatever, without some inspector from OSH, Work safety telling them what to do,
That’s a steel bar. Cast iron would produce powdery black chips.
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The tooth profiles do not look anything alike. The teeth are going to grind and slide and heat up and wear out quite quickly. That is, even if the part is heat treated, which is unlikely.
It's useless if not heat treated, so why not just anneal & weld up the old one? Gotta be quicker & better then a probably unknown steel and you've got the old tooth profile to follow.
I've had to operate my own Machine Shop to First World standards for 50 years and I probably should be angry at myself for not moving to one of these countries where I could have taken so many short cuts if I wanted to take advantage of really cheap labour, non existent health and safety laws and customers' lack of interest in demanding high standards from their suppliers. No wonder manufacturing industries in the West are dying - how can we possibly compete?
Congratulations to the inventor of the Renania milling machine, and thanks be to God for the fact that the mechanic has the milling spool exactly the same as the part. Without the milling machine and without the exact milling snail, he wouldn't do the copy even with 1000 priests praying around him! Please stop calling a mechanic a genius just because he did his job.
this is not genius nor cast iron. great click bait! I do enjoy watching the old machines still work. the video was worth watching but the idiot who wrote the title shouldn't be misleading people especially the young people who seam to take everything they learn online as fact and turn around and regurgitate it to others. props to the guy running the machine.
As soon as he removed the workpiece from the chuck and turned it around he lost all concentricity (didn’t even check with a dial gauge! …. 3 jaw chucks aren’t that good when new and I’m sure that one is worse than most.
Amazing.. no eye protection… no cleanliness at all…I’m sure there’s an OSHA inspector in the US somewhere who’s head is exploding right now
Not sure how making a gear on a gear cutting machine is genius!!
When I see those flow chips, I get goosebumps all over.
When I see him pulling on those with pliers while the machine is still running, it gets even worse.
He uses up all his luck all day long.
At least he isn't using his hands. He knows what he is doing trust me.
Ok who sent them the dial indicator??
These boys are old school, dial indicators all the way....
Great job. I wouldn't say 'genius' however. Gear making has been done for 2500 plus years. And most modern countries began using helical gear machines like this 90 years ago. Of course everyone else has moved on but Pakistan is still using technology the British gave them 60 years ago.........
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These work is done on street like shops not in modern factories, when rhe part not available, people or mechanic goes to this shops and these people do their work and let the wheel run in pakistan, they are not wealthy people to replace their machines with modern one
Wow I am impressed. So many negative comments probably from people who have never owned a lathe never mind a gear hobber/shaper.
So rebar is now cast iron? Even though rebar is actually steel.
I used to work in a machine shop a nice clean area always had a clean workstation I don't see how they can work in filth and when you're doing your calipers you don't throw your calipers down on the machine you don't hit them on things micrometers you don't tighten up on the micrometers when you're measuring something you use your finger to turn it and lay it really soft on the thing that you're cutting you don't tighten up on the micrometers
Lol in the usa with big machines and all the digital tools and cnc's on the planet this takes 2 days and 5 guys walking around debating what to do next lololol.
this can not be 100% precisely eye cant see is it parallel with the other ones and on high speed it will scream like a hungry old pig 😁😁😁
gotta love the used motor oil as a coolant. this shop is truly barbaric. I'm surprised these cave men have fingers left
This has nothing to do with a genius machinist. They have a helical gear cutting machine. Genius would be making this on an engine lathe.😄😊
Видимо тут суеверие, что если перед установкой новой детали сделать приборку станка, то молнией с небес убъет
Genius? No way. Capable is the word. 2nd year apprentice could do that
The real heroes here are the poor Japanese machines that have to toil away under heavy handed machine operators year after year with no maintenance or cleaning. LOL
I understand that there are many cost prohibitive constraints and some cultural differences when it comes to the prioritization of safety. But guys, you've got to include a chip breaker on that tooling (it only requires more labor, which if I understand correctly is not the limitation there). You can't be running a lathe if you don't have any fingers.
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Lubricating oil at the end just come out of a Hino with its 20k mile oil change.
Yes we can all criticise but the job got done with the resources available. Another machine kept working & a can do attitude. Well done! These are the sort of positive people the world needs more of, getting the job done without a hundred excuses!
well said Gary, , I do not think it was cast iron bar though......amazing what some are capable of with so little equipment.....
@@ypaulbrown They guy shooting the video has no clue what material is being used, it's obviously some grade of steel. I hope he's sharing any profits from You Tube/Google although I doubt it
In the USA that would probably be a $2000.00 machine job and take 3 months (unless it was a defense contractor, then it would over un by 6 months and cost $20,000)
Why bother getting the job done if the components produced are rubbish and will fail.
@@adybarker4733 Hey yeah you're right. Why bother trying to do anything!
Yes, they got it done. They could lose a limb or even die because of their carefree attitude
Must be in Pakistan as they have very good metal workers there..But not cast iron just steel so is the part going to work or even be able to last ???????
During the sped-up sections I swear I heard Jawas and Ewoks.