Picking the best TURBO & INJECTORS for your Diesel
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Thoughts on the best way to find the perfect set-up for your truck.
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“If its a 12 valve, all you need is a screwdriver.” lol
Bryan Hauschild no you need the injectors to allow more fuel and of youre rockin a Ppump you need DVs too
@Anders Scott fake
I personally believe the first mod that should be done is the Transmission. Trans is the weakest link. Then start on the motor mods
I agree 100%
Holy shit! You answered my question 3 years ago!
I have a 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab. It’s my first diesel, bought it 14 yrs ago with 110K now had 225K. Trucks been good to me motor wise. I would also recommend, getting a built trans. I added a airdog and a Bully dog PMT tuner and I smoked my trans, had it rebuilt that didn’t last. Ended up with a DB Performance Plus wasn’t cheap but no issues since.
great vids man!! it would be cool if you made a video bring more specific like this is best for a xxxhp towing, racing, daily driving. and what the best set up would be for a truck that can do it all. let's say a 700hp build. and what trans upgrades would be best too or the best place to get a built trans
Spend big money on the transmission first.
493john that’s what I did.
I put a lot of highway miles since I work for the railroad and I tow 10k Ibs easily 6/8 times a year when we go camping. So reliability and mileage are paramount to me but more power never hurt anyone
Thanks Greg, that really kinda helped me. Now it’s just deciding on my goals with the truck. I know it’s going to be a daily driver and used for towing but I also want some extra power
That sounds like some pretty good advice. It's like every other mechanical system, you need to size your parts to match your end goal.
Also a VERY important thing to note is, too many guys focus on only the engine and never touch the brakes or transmission. All three should be kept in mind throughout a build, or you'll be regretting it significantly.
very helpful sir thank you. I know what you're saying by those are your thoughts and opinions, however we've all seen what those thoughts and opinions put on the track, the dirt, and towing. so that gives a respective bar or example if you will for myself or others possibly to build to. your 08 is exactly what I want or be usable for me, 1000 horse would would be fun as hell but not reasonable for me. the tow ram would give me all I need for towing and then some, daily driver manners, plus plenty left under the hood just to jack with people
Great video. Also for anyone adding additional hp on a cummins especially with larger injectors and higher boost pressures should invest in head studs and some kind of Trans upgrades. Love the videos. Keep them coming
Erin Oliver and oring the block!
Another great video, I had commented in one of the other videos that I wished parts websites would let you put in what your power/activity goals are and give you options of what mods to do that would supports it best. Step in the right direction.
Bamafire Do you have a link to that website? That sounds cool...
Look up how to get the right injectors and some vids will have a link to a calculation website
I want say around 400 or 450 in my 2nd gen 24v. I want it to be able to get out of its own way I don’t need a race truck. I would like it to smoke a little bit too
These videos are very educational
another thing I think a lot of people forget when they order dual cp3's is not getting a spare belt cause a big down fall is that. no napa or autozone or who ever is gonna have a serp belt for dual cp3's when you shread a belt 1000 miles from home
I carry I variety of direct replacement upgrade turbochargers.
Always appreciate your advice/input man. Also, did I somehow miss the what you do for a living video??😬
Not yet, throwing it in a Q&A video when I get to making the video, soon hopefully lol
GREG_ALBERALLA hey Greg how do you feel about buying a setup like how BD diesel makes a twin turbo kit for about $5000 supports to 1400hp or you better off having diesel tech make one up?
BD Diesel makes some great stuff that will produce some good power, awesome thing about all there turbo kits is you know 100% your getting everything you'll need start to finish and wont be running around looking for odds and ends.
I'm building a 1st gen right now. Keeping a mild build. It's getting intake, fuel pin, exhaust, probably some elbows for the intercooler. Down the road we'll just have to see what it gets.
on my 93 i put on a hx35 off a 98, a powerstroke intercooler and cranked up the fuel. The EGTs were never to 950, ran hard and cool
McJammy how much of a power difference?
the hx35 alone will spool WAY quicker and make it feel like a different truck. Doing this i got 30psi and made it pretty quick for not a lot of $
also some super detailed how to videos would be cool to see there's a few how to videos from other ppl but it's either not complete or the quality is really bad. u seem to make great quality vids!
Very informative and helpful vid. Thanks
Good stuff right here man. You've probably got the best channel truck wise I've found. Every other one is some kid with a tuner and wheels thinking they got a build lol. Keep it up !! But by any chance do you know where I can get drop shackles for a 05 2500 ? I feel like I've looked everywhere, I've heard you mention them before but not sure if you said where to get them.
Thanks I appreciate that, ill be going over all that in a video very soon and show ya exactly where.
Very educational. Thank you
Hey Greg I need new injectors for my 2003 I’m at sea level, I already have a built trans. What size injectors should I go with? Need it to be able to tow.
On my old 2001 24valve I was running 150 edge nozzles and able to tow still.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Hey Grag, I have a cummins 5.9 2007, I did my BD gearbox, I have a bully dog tunner and an intercooler. I would like to know what I need to reach 800HP, I'm from Brazil and I follow you always, very good work!
Thank you, really helped me out a lot! Greats Videos :D
Very Good info! Thanks!
2007 cummins 5.9 150 fass, cold air, cfm intake manifold, edge but going hp tuner or efi curious what other mods would be good to do thanks for the video man just ready to take the power to next level for my current setup also my goal is between 600-700
One of your most informative videos, thank you very much!
Sir I have a 2001 dodge 3500. I do alot of traveling for my job so I'm pulling my fifth wheel every month to 3 months. Plus I use my truck for my job so it's a daily drive. What do you recommend as far as injectors and turbo
Bro u look so young and sound young 😂😂😂
Hey Greg on this topic. (or anybody in the comments) last week I bought a 90 4wd cummins. It's 100% bonestock. I would like to wake it up a little. I daily drive it and I sometimes will tow with it. It's non intercooled and I've considered intercooling it. But I dont think it needs it. I would like to do a small fuel pin and a 3200 gov spring. As well as stage one 50hp POD injectors. (the stock ones have a small leak so I thought of I'm going to pull them to fix the leak that would be the time to upgrade) Ive got 4in exhaust on its way and Im going to put a better air cleaner on it. I also want to do a EGT, boost and trans temp gauges. Is this a good start for my truck to get more power and still keep fuel mileage, as well as not over power the transmission.
I have a 99 dodge. I've put 75hp duckys injectors and a fass lift pump. I just want more towing power. Except for a cold air filter it's basically stock. What do you recommend I do next?
Hey GREG.
so I have a question for you. I have a 1992 fire truck with an 8.3 L Cummins with the Jake break as well. My problem is I have tons of white smoke at idle. I suspect at least one leaking injector. Would you be able to show how to get to the injectors and also what injector would be good to replace all of them with to get more horsepower. I’m not looking for a ton of power or high price injectors I just want to wake it up a little bit.
@GREG_ALBERALLA What would be a good set up for my 2nd gen 24 valve I dd and tow but looking for better mpg and better throttle response and power. new to the cummins world and been watching your vids for bout a min now and love yalls rigs keep up the great work.
Hey Greg great videos. Your really up on all this stuff. I have a 2006 that I’m currently looking at upgrading turbo and 2nd gen swap. I’m stock cp3 and plan on 50 hp injectors. I’ve installed the fleece power flow lift pump. I’m looking for 550 hp or so. I want the truck to keep egt down and tow better than stock. I have the edge tuner but plan on efi. I also need to keep my exhaust brake (the old Jacobs that dodge offered back in the day). So any thoughts on the turbo? Fleece told me the 463 2nd gen was too laggy. Should or even a cheeta. What downpipe will I need on 2nd gen to keep my exhaust brake. Thanks again
One of my favorite channels on UA-cam. Love your trucks. Just out of curiosity, I'm trying to get my 06 5.9 to 700hp. I was thinking about doing a s369 with a 10 or 12mm pump and other supporting mods (tuning,springs and trans, I already have studs and hardened 12v rods). Now my problem is that I just put in 50hp injectors (I know this will be my limiting factor). Could 700 still be achieved with the 50's? I'm kind of starting to look at 100% overs. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
50HP injectors or 50% over injectors? The new SXE Borg 369 i believe I have seen some common rails do 700, the new SXE line really has some impressive flow #s, to hit 700 a 10MM pump will do that and 100% will be quite a bit of fuel for a S300 charger, I might try and push your current injectors see where your max is and then use that to judge how much more fuel you need for that goal.
GREG_ALBERALLA awesome, and yeah I put 50hp injectors in. I've heard the SXE line is really good and that's the turbo I was thinking about running. Thanks for the quick reply! Really appreciate the feedback.
I have a question. maybe someone can help me out with a suggestion. 04 dodge 5.9 24v- truck needs injectors. stock with bolt On's with exhaust and intake. I'm just wondering if while I'm in should I go with a little bigger injector? I'm looking at bd 30hp injectors or 90hp. good idea? bad idea? go back with stock? I do plan to tune the truck. I use the truck tow my toyHauler and boat and that's about it.
I have a 12 valve with compounds what sort of injectors should I go for ?
I love you videos man keep it up ... I got a question I have a 4 1/2 inch lift on my Dodge Ram 3500 03 .. my guessing is that when the lift was done they didn't put new extended shocks or idk I really don't know about lift .my question is how can I make my suspension better what do you recommend me doing
With a 4.5 in lift there is no way stock shocks would work so they are most likely aftermarket, now you could possibly look at some better shocks for it, like fox or king shocks, even bilstein would be a great upgrade, after that I would make sure your front coils are "progressive" coils, they are known to have a much better ride.
Thanks for your opinion Greg I will get to looking that up quick
Love the video man
had to get the cat fuel filter kit. wanted a airdog but 200 Vs 700 (including sump)
love the videos man!! Whens the video on Andrew's mega cab coming out?
Soon as its nice out and we can spend some time doing a edit and some burnouts lol
On another note what traction bars do you guys use??
Greg im going to look at a 03 dodge Cummings and i wonder how i can tell if injectors are getting ready to go out…the truck has 216,000 ….is that a bad mileage when everything needs to be done
Got a quick question guys or greg I got a 2000 24 v running edge comp box 4 inch exhaust system got a good lift pump on it with 3 stage built transmission I'm wanting to do injectors next thinking about 100 but I do use it as a tow pig what sizes would y'all run
Blake Hatfield that’s a good question wish Someone could answer
Excuse myself for asking what is probably a really noob question, but what is a CP3? And also, if I install an aftermarket intake and exhaust on my 5.9, are bigger injectors possible to add at this point as well? Or do I need to upgrade my turbo if I want to have slightly bigger injectors? Love your vids man keep it up, slowly making my way thru all your vids in order lol.
You can go a little over with the stock turbo but will need time and supporting mods like lift pump
GREG_ALBERALLA Hey man whats your opinion on smarty tuning. i have had 2 different EFI live tuners try to tune my truck with no luck. I have tried both stock turbo setup and and a sxe s363 (s363/68/.91 t4 2nd gen swap),(2007 5.9 stock injectors, 48re fully built, fass150, 5' exhaust). with egt problems on both and massive amounts of lag with the s363. i have had the injectors tested and they passed. would i have to upgrade injectors? All I'm looking for in power is just a better power curve, good spool up and a nice top end without high egts and good fuel milage. I tow vehicles sometimes and haul sleds to the mountains occasionally.
24 valve gen 2 vp 44 whats a good 800 hp plus mod?
2003 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9 Cummins. loss of power and MPG what would you recommend totally stock truck 135,000 miles. general maintenance over the years. do tow a RV occasionally. Thank You
Anyone else interested on the difference between 100% over injectors vs 100 horse injectors?
This question was already answered on a previous video here. Basically, 100 hp Injectors are like 25% injectors.
Max Power so are you saying 150% over are 600 horsepower
Lol! Skippy I believed you are a little confused, check the previous video
@@Motherfunded 150%=300hp.
have 100% injectors with a 77mm turbo currently. alot of white smoke but im working with the tuner to turn down the duty cycles. I have compound kit chillin in my garage. ive been contiplating putting her on. im not reaching boost till like 2.6k. you think itll help big time? goal is 700hp
New to the diesel world... what's the difference between when someone says 100 horse injectors and 100% over injectors? Also what kind of injector/turbo/tune setup would you recommend for someone wanting about 450hp out of their CR 5.9L? Awesome videos man👍🏼
450hp can be achieved with only a intake, exhaust and tuning, prob more in the 500s
GREG_ALBERALLA but what’s the difference between 100 horse and 100% over?
So in your opinion. I have a 98.5 vp44 with an nv4500. Already did the 5th gear fix, bought my upgraded clutch but havent installed yet, and have a fass 165 I put on yesterday. I have about 10k to spend as of right now on it. My plan is a daily driveable 550 horse give or take, i wouldn't be opposed to 600 or more if possible with the ability to tow light still, like 7k, very very rare anything above. Already have a 5" exhaust and 4" down pipe installed too. Was wondering is if 150, 175, or 200 hp Injectors will be best. And I want to try and stay single turbo but dont know what size, I've heard of anything from 62-66, plus what's a good cam still? 188/220? Or is that a bit much?
Hi Greg, i have a 12.7 detroit s60 1999, that is giving me some hard times, it was overhauled twice by detroit dealer in wa state, is running very bad, no power on hills, mpg is between 5.5-6 , pulling a reefer . Will you be able to give some advises ? Thanks!
Are you going to go over everything done engine wise on Andrews truck? I saw how burnout video on his Instagram and it looks sick
yes sir
What should I do for my Cummins 12v. I want around 250hp but dont want that huge blk smoke many ppl find cool. What size injectors is recommended?
Where's my screwdriver posse at?
I love your video.. but I need some help I have a 98 12v that I'm starting to build and my goal 400hp I've already most of the supporting mods Trans etc. but I'm kinda stuck on witch turbo and injectors can you help me I daily drive the truck and do tow with it
This might be a dumb question but I’m new to this. My truck has 150 injectors how much horsepower do you gain from them thanks for the help
well said....but I noticed u didn't say anything about port and polish...so my question is to u what is your opinion about port and polish on the exhaust manifold and the turbine housing?
I've honestly never spent the time or money on porting stock manifolds or turbine housings, aftermarket stuff is really the way to go to gain flow, never hurts but just not really worth the time and effort for the what it gains you IMO
So I'll probably get slughtered for leaving this comment but I have a 96 mm turbski I'm getting a bt6 5.9 to put in a very small truck just to do like burnouts and fun shit so yes more power than need but that's the point but my question is the engine has 100 k on it well taken care of will the stock turbo /head and piston hold up to the 96 mm turboon a compound setup with the stock hx35
I have a 98.5 Cummins and it has power then no power and a lot of codes for low circuit Any suggestions where to start just bought had 12 valve and think I should have went back to 12 valve.
I have a 2011 deleted running the race me 120hp tune it's a tow rig probably won't do much else with it what is the best trans upgrades 130k on the clock so I figure it's coming
I use Muldoons Diesel for all my transmission stuff, I would recommend getting with him, He has a great social media pages for contact info
GREG_ALBERALLA thanks I'll check them out
I’ve got an 03 250hp 5.9 and I drive it like a car when I daily the thing but only drive it once or twice a week but pull my 12k 5th wheel. I have a built trans already but I’m needing injectors soon. Looking to get close to 450hp from it. Single turbo for simplicity and budget. What’s your thoughts on this?
@Tyler Harris what’s the bag of parts for the injection pump? Part numbers?
Looking for reliability .. fuel pump a must. What about studs ? If anyone has an opinion wouldn’t mind hearing it
Good info 👍
Curious what your thoughts on diesel power source 3rd gen swap vs let’s say fleece second gen swap? I’m just looking to get rid of my vgt and be able tow my boats and get better fuel economy. My 2012 6.7 cummins is currently deleted, efi live, snow performances water meth and 5” from the turbo back. I’m looking for suggestions. I’m not looking to race the truck. It works every day.
I forgot it has an aftermarket air intake as well.
I'm doing a s366 with a airdog 165 and stock injectors for my dmax. Should work out alright
I'm wanting to get a second Gen Cummins and wondered what the general max output without smoke and daily driver I would be able to get out of it. Both 12v and 24v
Connor Milroy both are hard to reach higher horse power levels with out any smoke. 24v while it is an electronically controlled injection pump the injectors are fully mechanical and like the 12 valve only offer one injection and the fuel atomization is lower because the injection system on older diesel are 4000-5000psi compared to common rail at 10000psi-30000psi depending on the generation of common rail system.
With s port and helix (p-pump) there is a lot of fine tuning one can do with the pump to dial it in for cleaner running while having added hp, but it's something that one needs to ether have experience and know what your doing with or have it done by an injection shop.
Keifer Janz I would just need it to pass e test and in the case of the 24v would I be able to adjust it so it would pass then still be able to get it back easily with like a tuner and if so how much power would I be looking at just general estimate without smoking too too much
Connor Milroy for a daily driver a 24v with a aftermarket lift pump to keep the vp44 injection pump well feed, 4inch exhaust and a cold air intake with a programmer like a smarty would be good for added power but good drivability and all you do is place the truck back to factory tuning with the programmer before the smog test and I would think it would pass.
Do you know anyone in texas that you could recommend? To take my truck to?
Hey Greg I don't want to bug you too much but I've got an 05 Cummins that has bully dog tuning, an intake horn, 5in straight pipe, and cold air intake. I was considering going for the second gen swap kit from fleece performance with the 67mm turbo and I was wondering first of all if you would recommend a different turbo setup and second if I were to get that turbo would I have trouble spooling it?
And also when I get the turbo other than headstuds do you think any other modifications would be necessary?
Id prob recommend a lift pump as well, and it might be a little lazy without some fueling upgrades but shouldn't be terrible.
GREG_ALBERALLA thanks for the reply! And yeah I'm trying to do this on the limited budget of a 17 year old haha so I'm definitely not looking into injectors quite yet. I'm just looking for something a little more than stock seeing as with my boost fooler and tuning in only seeing about 31psi of boost and I do daily drive the truck so I'm not looking for ridiculous amounts of power either, but I will definitely look into a fuel sump and lift pump
45% over injectors, 10mm pump, s362 over s475 compounds and efi live good for 650-700?
Ya I would think, you should hit your mark with that setup.
great stuff. i got a first gen 12v. its all stock and could use a rebuild. when i rebuild it i want to get it around 600. it would be a daily and tow truck (i work on a farm) but i also want to be able to hit the skinny pedal and have that instant power like my 5.3 chevy has. i want to go single turbo if i can. not sure your opinions. help? thanks man
Jacob Hyde if u want 600hp out of ur truck ur going to have to put the p7100 injector pump on it.
Around 400 is a good stoping point. I seen one do 500hp but at that level u take a risk of the ve running away
I would put a 3rd gen turbo on it. If thats all the hp ur looking for
Should unless u step up to a sxe 62/68/12 but would not go any bigger than that or it will be laggy
Jacob Hyde you will never make more than 500(and thats with nitrous) out of a first gen if you keep it VE powered...to do 600 on a 12 valve that would be a lighting fast responsive and great towing rig would be a 215 ppump with all the standard upgrades along with something along the lines of a 363/475 compound kit and some 6x13 or 6x14 injectors...just my opinion but im a die hard 12 valve guy and currently trying to hit the 450+ VE club with my 91
THANKS AGAIN! Lol
Would you recommend a 95 or 150/165 gph lift pump for a basically stock truck with intake,exhaust and economy tune. 2006 cummins. Thank you
95 for sure unless you plan on more fuel mods in the future. Then go bigger now.
T K I have a 03 and run a air dog 165 just because it is adjustable
I see no harm in doing a 150/165 right off the bat, check out airdogs 4g, theres a complete video on it for some pointers
Is a compound turbo set up different from twin? or the same?
The technical correct wording for a diesel twin setup is "compound" Twins in the entire automotive sense refers more to a V8 with twin turbos, 1 per side of the motor if that makes sense
What's ur outlook on the 3.5" pusher intake intercooler piping?
Thats what Im running on the competition truck but there are plenty of 1k+ hp trucks still using the stock intake horn, its not as big as a restriction as everyone thinks, but cosmetically they look good.
GREG_ALBERALLA I just bought a gloss black setup last night. should be here by Tuesday!
Choose me a right Turbo for my 2.7liter 3-cylender diesel engine
who would you go to for a automatic transmission
Big Murph Suncoast..Goerend
Big Murph Suncoast..Goerend
I always use muldoons diesel performance, look him up on social media, top quality service with personal customer service
I prefer HP tuners
just did 62/68 turbo and 150hp injectors head studs intake valve spring pushrods egts ar going hi was building for towing but not shore i did the right thing would compound it to help
Compounds will help, I run He 351 hybrid 62 mm over larger hot housing and. BorgWarner 475 atmospheric. I’m running 100s and edge juice attitude,towing 14 k . It’s strong. 03 5.9 cr
I believe I've seen 150% overs support 1100-1200HP, I could be wrong.
im getting a s467.7 for 5.9 Cummins what size injectors should I get
Are you still going to do a Q&A?
Yes
i love the video man but please fix your beard
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Honestly too much rambling to get to the points but good info.
I just got a diamond eye 5 inch turbo and back with resonater, but no black smoke. Any help why because I would live to throw black smoke
Jose Olmos exhaust wont cause smoke. if u have a 12 valve turn the fuel up on your fuel pump. thats the easiest. but be careful. you wont get black smoke from just an exhaust. it has to do with the fuel system
Jacob Hyde thanks but I've a 24v, any difference?
should've got the full straight pipe without a resonator lol, but if you don't have a tuner it's not about to smoke a lot.
C Bell24v oh alright, thanks and I'll be taking that resonator off soon and adding a 5 inch.
Life isn't about making your truck smoke... It's about having an equal balance of fuel to air to achieve maximum efficiency and power, unless you're trying to be a douche and make the diesel community look even worse... which, in that case, get a gas vehicle, because you obviously can't keep yourself from acting like a kid.
Lol all u need is a screw driver
never heard so much talk to say nothing