Still doesn't come close to justifying that. It doesn't have a disc drive and offers nothing other than minor image quality and ray tracing improvements. Microsoft was right not to waste their time with a pro version of the Xbox.
When they up the price for the ps5 in regions to offset the discounted price they took the hit for consoles when they first released. They were and still are great for the price point but a pro would obviously be more expensive and i actually think this is fairly reasonable if people want it to be an actual upgrade
Both companies to be competition for each other, that's why I never understood the fanboying trying to get one to leave the market. It's not going to make gaming better for them
@@SKOTxFREE Lol according to who? In all of Digital foundry's videos they are comparable. Aldo third party titles are consistently at a higher fidelity on XSX. Careful what you parrot from twitter
@@SKOTxFREE The Ps5 was advertised as a 120 fps 4K console, I did listen & they've reduced the framerates by HALF on the pro because they failed to hold their promises on base Ps5.
@@TheGenioInformatico-ju1hs That make you one of the dumbest PC gamer I've ever come across. No one put a gun to your head and force to spend $1,100 for a GPU. Do you also spend $1,100 for a plate of spaghetti at a 3 stare restaurant, you did didn't you ?
They are angry because they lost 200 Million dollars they invested on a game only to be flopped, blame us and make their consumers suffer from the failure they're responsible. That's honestly insane.
I abandoned the Playstation ecosystem early in the PS4 lifecycle. No regrets. Now in 2024 i'm playing God of War, Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima on PC anyway.
I made the same decision except a little bit later after I bought my PS5 which don’t get me wrong. I love the system always have liked PlayStation, but now I’m done I’ve switched to PC especially with these prices might as well just save a couple extra hundred get a good PC. at least I can actually play old games now and games for other consoles modded games and emulated games
Still have my PS5, but just built a PC with a 4080 Super. At this point, where the price stands, people may as well build a PC for the price of the PS5 Pro. Next gen will be even more expensive. For $700+, people should just spend a bit extra and build a good PC with performance that exceeds these upcoming consoles. As years press on, there's less justification to own a console, especially when PC enjoys both sides of console exclusivity.
I picked up a new series x at target a month ago , it was on sale for 450$ with my target red card it was 427.50 $ , that’s reasonable, 700$ without a disc drive or stand is nuts 🤦♂️
800€ in Europe is even more crazier. The region Sony is the King without any rival and they spit on it! Time for Microsoft to get their shit together, bring the next gen console asap and put some effort winning Europe back!
@@waynewayne8419 i have a series x, i buy most of my games from xbox store and the rest from steam and i have gpu sub. Who is not supporting them again? Do you know that i cant even find physical copies of xbox games in my local stores? I have to order them online and even then they are not always available. I couldn't even find a console without ordering it online lol! Microsoft just dont give a fk about European customers its not like they will start buying xboxes without seeing products at the stores and without commercials.
@@waynewayne8419 i have a series x, i have gamepass, i buy almost all my games from xbox and the rest from steam. Who exactly isn't supporting them? In my local stores you cant find physical games for xbox, you can hardly find some consoles available when there are piles of ps5 and physical ps games. No advertising either. Who's fault is that?
Can't wait to see MAGG cap for this thing hard on your next show. Also I want to see if this is going to play Jedi Survivor at a native 4k at 120fps with RT like he predicted a few months back.
The fact is Series X & PS5 should be both at a 299$ USD after being 4 years on the market both corporation have no tangible reasons to keep it at that 499$ price Tag
@@ToeMcTaggins really?! 600 for 2tb series X 200 for a year of Gamepass 0 is the number of graphic upgrades to graphics on series X And after that $200 for Gamepass you don’t even own the games you play.
@@ChrisL-d4ca 4090 is for extreme enthusiasts. There are GPU's far more powerful than the PS5 Pro for less than half the price of a 4090. If anyone is willing to buy a PS5 Pro, they may as well spend a little extra and build a PC capable of running circles around it, with room for future upgrades and customization.
@@SKOTxFREE exactly lol, remember all the people saying like who is gonna buy that PlayStation VR?? Then it sold out. There will be LOTS of people who are going to buy the Ps5 Pro, whatever new $1000+ graphics card is out, the new iPhone and the hardcore Xbox people will get that 2TB Xbox X. Enough people will buy this stuff, no matter how many people on social media and UA-cam act like this is the worst thing ever. Welcome to gaming in the mid-2020's, it is what it is, don't like it, just don't buy it but also let's be realistic, there will be many people who will buy this thing by the time November comes around.
there is no way I would pay 700 bucks for a mid consul refresh when literally the only upgrade is supposedly 60 frames per second, which they promised us at the beginning of this generation, and they didn’t deliver
@@generationwolves Do you have an 8K TV/monitor? If so, I have good news for you. The GT7 runs at 8K 60fps, just to shut you down. Now what is your next compaint?
@@generationwolves I picked? 😂 No, that's just confirmed from the hands on video Cnet did. Just the first of games... You expect me to list for you the games that can run 8K after not even 24h of reveal? Either way, it's pointless, because not many people have 8K TVs. It just shows the capability, that's all. Now let's discuss.. If it can run 8K 60fps GT7, you think any other games wouldn't be able to run as well? 😂 GT7 is pretty demanding, lol.
A $1400 PC will get you an AMD 7800 xt with 16 gigs of VRAM a Ryzen 7 7700x CPU that clocks between 4.5 and 5.4 GHz, 32 gigs of Ram and an SSD... That will beat anything that remains of "this gen" plus anything "next gen" as well which will equal to about 10 years.
Wait a sec, Sony basically upgraded the Memory Bandwidth and GPU, but left the CPU pretty much the same? Si, we are still going to be struggling to get a locked 60FPS on high demanding games I see. Really Sony?
Builds core and upper body with the GPU upgrade, but skips leg day by keeping the outdated Zen 2 CPU and strains itself by upping the clock speed. If there are games not currently running at a stable 60fps on base PS5 due to CPU limitations, this Pro variant is going to be a complete waste.
@@dctrbrass At least the One X was a lot more affordable. LOL.... Crazy how the One X literally had more games running at native 4K than the Series X and PS5 does. That's nuts! The One X was a damn good system, just had that garbage Jaguar CPU which wasn't really capable of running games at 60FPS.
Can't even come close to justifying the purchase of one, just for the lack of disc drive alone. Almost all my games are hardcopy. I honestly don't see how the numbers add up for Sony on this, because the number of consumers that play games that need the specs and are willing to pony up the cash can't be more than a fraction of the total customer base. How do they expect to get ROI on spinning up a whole new product line?
Easy answer... You shouldn't upgrade to the Pro at this price. No one should buy this thing. If you add in the cost of the vertical stand and the disk drive (both of which came with the launch PS5) you're looking at a 65% price increase over the now 4yr old launch console. Sorry, but that's ridiculous and completely uncalled for. They're doing it because they can. Quite simply there's no competition anymore... So if you don't want a $1,000 PS6, avoid this like the plague.
lol $700 for a console that dont have a disc drive and that would drive the cost up to $800. Thats a big L, not to mention the entire presentation showed games that already looked good on a base PS5 so the differences arent even that noticeable lol.
@@dctrbrass Now tell me you sold Series X, bought PS5 and waited to buy PS5 Pro. If so, congrats. You made me laugh... Now let's keep the overpriced comments going and what's not worth over what. 😂
You mean add disk drive and vertical stand, you will run around 800 bucks man. Way too much. In Europe it is like 925 Euro, expensive console. I will wait till next year because I played these games which they showed already, why replay them in slightly better graphics and fps. If they want my money show me new games running on it.
Be careful of what you Sony fans wish. Sony is like we have little competition in console sales, so we can sell it for premium and they will pay it. And you can pay another $80 for the drive. Microsoft should drop the price on all Series consoles today.
I don't see that happening with Microsoft releasing the "special edition" 2TB Series X next month at $600 plus what price point drop would make the best sense for them? $450? $400? And then where does the price for the S go? It's all tricky stuff.
Won’t see Xbox do that ever. History shows that. Highest they went ever was $600 and that was limited edition consoles with memory upgrades (averagely)
@@kgrass976 never said I was ok with it, I love how you did not read between the lines, and dumb dumb Xbox just released a new Xbox series X edition with 2TB memory, refreshed vapor chamber. But hey Sony hater gonna hate even though their charging $700 for a “Pro” PS5 and it’s still a “ONE TB MEMORY” 😂😂😂😂
So glad I built my PC this year, Radeon 7900 XTX GPU with a Ryzen 7 7800 X3D processor. People, listen to me and make the jump to PC. These console companies are pushing you more towards it anyway. Sony barely has any software titles for you and you're playing games that are multiplatform anyway.
And the thing is. It’s on the developers if you can even use that extra boost this condole has unlike pc. With PC the moment you put in that new GPU with a driver update you can use that extra power. For every game. Better graphics or higher fps. Or both
I got a lot of flack for saying that when they raised the price of the PS5 in Japan that the pro wouldn't be $500 at release. I also got a lot of flack when I said that I thought the PS5 pro would be an all digital system. And guess what, it ended up being $700 (more depending on where you live based on conversion rates) and also ended up being all digital (with the option to purchase a detachable disc drive which will cost an additional $100).
@@Donald_Allan Not really. It was very obvous it wasn't going to launch at $500 making sony sell the ps5 at $350. I would have guessed $600 wtihout a disc drive if I had to gamble on the price... i bet you would have predicted this too. You're not special
@@kaireng Yeah... you can't build a PC with the same specs for the same money... so you beat what? 😂 What kind of an argument is this... 😂 150 bucks more... That's exactly what others are crying here about... They expected it to be priced 100 bucks less.
No one mentions that our favourite pony Magg said its confirmed 599$ 😂. Magg you fraud, you better be also wrong about halo, forza and starfield going to ps too! 😂
Paystation, this is for the payers!! 🤣🤣🤣 cannot believe it’s £700, plus £80 for disc drive that’s insane. The PS4 Pro/X1X sold okay but nowhere near main console sales and the PS4 Pro was cheaper than X1X which had native 4k resolution! This isn’t even going to sell similar to PS4 Pro.
People need to take a hint from now that the Series X2 is most likely to be £700 and the handheld could be £400 to £500 in 2026. I already have £600 saved so far. I have a PS5 but i won't purchase the Pro because we are half through the gen and if the rumours are true that the new next gen Xbox releasing 2026, i rather wait until Xbox releases it.
Very redundant announcement since with the “original” PS5, Sony promised that their console was able to do all those things. I rather upgrade my pc instead.
Not sure if anyone else is talking about it but if the PS5 Pro is $699. Then the next Xbox/PS6 will be right there as well. If not maybe another $100-$200 more. This needs to be the Gen that bridges the gap between Console and PC!
A single $ over 600 is wasted on this and that is with a disc drive. Ps6 and next gen is round the corner in 3-4 years. No point in spending so much. I can spend 70-80$ to get a gen 4 ssd for the og ps5.
I thought to myself "maybe.... maybe it's gonna be about $600 which seems about normal for a PS five pro when you consider the fact that the PS3 launched at that exact price over a decade ago!?" I almost passed out laughing so hard when you said $700 😂😂 They just keep separating us don't they?
I see no reason to upgrade to a PS5 PRO. I can see maybe getting one if you don’t mind spending a ton of money on one if you already do not have a PS5. But still $699 is actually insane
They dont have a choice. If Microspft stopped making Xbox consoles...they would still have a thrivng 97% share of the PC market and the biggest mobile games market and a soon to be dominant share of the streaming gamws market. If Sony stops making Playstations...then they will just be a 3rd party on Micrsofts PC platform.
@@biscuitinetrisket5309 they do have a choice if come next year the price of the console falls due to lack of sales. Either that or they keep the price the same and chuck in the stand and drive free to keep consumers happy.
PS5 pro 2tb 699.99 it comes with no stand, and disk drive worst mistake PlayStation can make, want the stand $29.99, disk drive $79.99. this reminds me of the PlayStation 3 original price... This already has backlash
I was looking at picking up a PS5 Pro to compliment my Xbox and Nintendo Switch. However Sony just did me a favor. At $800 plus for the complete system, I’m just gonna throw that money into some investments. However if they sold it at $600 with disc drive I would have been sold.
I’m sorry it’s not an upgrade. All they did was tweak 6-7 year old technology to actually be able to produce 60fps with higher resolution like the ps5 was originally supposed to do. Sony pulled an apple and did this shit on purpose and the sheep just bahhh all the way to the pen to buy anything with a ps logo on it.
Great presentation Colt 👏🏽, For that price. There has to be some hardware that will take full advantage of upscaling tech and it is full RDNA 2, but it still limited to same CPU. Interesting to see the full specs of Ps5 Pro and see how this plays out, Stay Safe.
The PS5 pro doesn't have a disk drive!? LMFAO disk drive sold separately... That's like buying a fancy new sports car...with NO WHEELS. Like why the fuck would you?
Ps5 pro is so freaking expensive they need to lower the price xbox series s is only 300 dollars and the ps5 slim is only 478.84 the ps5 consoles are getting more and more expensive
CORRECTION: The PS5 Pro includes a 2tb SSD
Still doesn't come close to justifying that. It doesn't have a disc drive and offers nothing other than minor image quality and ray tracing improvements. Microsoft was right not to waste their time with a pro version of the Xbox.
Lol I was about to tell you about it.
When they up the price for the ps5 in regions to offset the discounted price they took the hit for consoles when they first released. They were and still are great for the price point but a pro would obviously be more expensive and i actually think this is fairly reasonable if people want it to be an actual upgrade
Fuk NO 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SlodsworthIm sorry but what does that even mean?
This is why Xbox needs to be in the Console market because without competition Sony turns into Apple
Both companies to be competition for each other, that's why I never understood the fanboying trying to get one to leave the market. It's not going to make gaming better for them
Sony did this with the PS3 that was the end for me. XBOX ever since never turning back ….gamepass ultimate of course 😬😎✌🏽
And look what happened with Apple. Android is taking an ever increasing share of the market.
only one problem. (xbox player here) Microsoft is run by MORONS.
@@Mcfigg same for me i was done with sony after that.
The worst part about this, is that they're only promising what they had already promised with the base PS5.
Ps5 box says "8K 4K/120fps HDR"
@@Cody.Tafoya you mean the same base ps5 that plays Xbox games better than series X? Balls in your court champ
@@wolfrayet0042 8K movie playback, but if you listened to the presentation Cerny said multiple times 4K 60 FPS. Do you guys actually listen?
@@SKOTxFREE Lol according to who? In all of Digital foundry's videos they are comparable. Aldo third party titles are consistently at a higher fidelity on XSX. Careful what you parrot from twitter
@@SKOTxFREE The Ps5 was advertised as a 120 fps 4K console, I did listen & they've reduced the framerates by HALF on the pro because they failed to hold their promises on base Ps5.
It would only be worth it if they tossed in a free copy of Concord
🤣
Forspoken Game of the year definitive edition
To late. Already buried all copies in a new Mexico desert.
😂😂😂
@greenEYEDdj A digital New Mexico desert. This time no one will be able to dig it up.
The price is insane. R.I.P PS5 Pro.
sony just released hardware CONCORD
@@tarekmohamed9230 I swear you guys are on meth or crack or some kind of hard drugs
Sony PlayStation 5 more like PASS
bet it will sell out for months
This is 100% Sony trying to tell people they should start building a PC
Sony think they are Apple of gaming. And can charge as much as their fanboys.
@@TheGenioInformatico-ju1hs That make you one of the dumbest PC gamer I've ever come across.
No one put a gun to your head and force to spend $1,100 for a GPU.
Do you also spend $1,100 for a plate of spaghetti at a 3 stare restaurant, you did didn't you ?
I don't think gamers realize that the deep learning revolution has permanently screwed them over 😂
I just built one this year, initial cost for the PC is very expensive but it's well worth it in the end. I'll never go back to console.
I disagree. PC has a lot of cool options, but even at $700 it’s still cheaper than a pc.
Sony is taking L after L in 2024. Coping and seething from ponies inbound
L-Station 5...
They are angry because they lost 200 Million dollars they invested on a game only to be flopped, blame us and make their consumers suffer from the failure they're responsible. That's honestly insane.
It is a rather strange business model.
There making up for the couple billion they wasted on bungie
What game is that?
@@maestro4086
Concord
I abandoned the Playstation ecosystem early in the PS4 lifecycle. No regrets. Now in 2024 i'm playing God of War, Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima on PC anyway.
I made the same decision except a little bit later after I bought my PS5 which don’t get me wrong. I love the system always have liked PlayStation, but now I’m done I’ve switched to PC especially with these prices might as well just save a couple extra hundred get a good PC. at least I can actually play old games now and games for other consoles modded games and emulated games
I guess I am quite a bit younger than you two, as I didn’t get a PS4 until late 2015.
Still have my PS5, but just built a PC with a 4080 Super. At this point, where the price stands, people may as well build a PC for the price of the PS5 Pro. Next gen will be even more expensive. For $700+, people should just spend a bit extra and build a good PC with performance that exceeds these upcoming consoles. As years press on, there's less justification to own a console, especially when PC enjoys both sides of console exclusivity.
Me either in 2018 and never look back again
How’s Spider-Man 2 on Pc?
I’ve seen rumours that here in Canada it’s coming out at 959.99?? WTF?
Yep,don't forget taxes and eco fee!!$1130.another 50 bucks for a stand and another 120 for didc drive!what a joke
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@@cdnreddevil9895 Yep can’t forget to pay our psychotic prime minister!
I picked up a new series x at target a month ago , it was on sale for 450$ with my target red card it was 427.50 $ , that’s reasonable, 700$ without a disc drive or stand is nuts 🤦♂️
800€ in Europe is even more crazier. The region Sony is the King without any rival and they spit on it! Time for Microsoft to get their shit together, bring the next gen console asap and put some effort winning Europe back!
Microsoft are done, you guys refused to support them and gave more market to PS. You only have yourselves to blame
@@waynewayne8419 i have a series x, i buy most of my games from xbox store and the rest from steam and i have gpu sub. Who is not supporting them again? Do you know that i cant even find physical copies of xbox games in my local stores? I have to order them online and even then they are not always available. I couldn't even find a console without ordering it online lol! Microsoft just dont give a fk about European customers its not like they will start buying xboxes without seeing products at the stores and without commercials.
@@waynewayne8419cant support hot garbage tho 😂
@@waynewayne8419 i have a series x, i have gamepass, i buy almost all my games from xbox and the rest from steam. Who exactly isn't supporting them? In my local stores you cant find physical games for xbox, you can hardly find some consoles available when there are piles of ps5 and physical ps games. No advertising either. Who's fault is that?
No backwards compatible,no disk drive, no stand,,,it's gone too far.
PS5 Pro is not backwards compatible? Not even with PS4 games like the base PS5?
Can't wait to see MAGG cap for this thing hard on your next show. Also I want to see if this is going to play Jedi Survivor at a native 4k at 120fps with RT like he predicted a few months back.
@jubei2011 The pro will definitely not play jedi Survivor at 120fps but maybe 4K 40fps.
@@kendalekyle7527 Its funny too because he said that developers told him thats what the console did with zero optimization.
I was correct after all. $700 with no disc. I am not buying!
Here in Europe, it's the equivalent of 881 usd without disc.
You don't wanna know it's price in Brazil :)
And the disc drive is the equivalent of 134USD!
Man, In Ukraine it's the equivalent of 1000$, when people have an average salary 400$
@cpm2k probably at least $1,500 US dollars equivalent...good thing Brazilian gamers are perfectly content with Master System and Mega Drive! As am I!
You have to add taxes to the US price as well. The European price already includes the tax.
My wife would kill me if I spent that on an upgrade
I'm with you on this Facts🔥🔥🔥.
It's OK trade in your current ps5 and the pro will probably cost as much as a new ps5 currently lol
just divorce
Just say it's for her son
My wife asked me if i want PS5 pro as a gift this Xmas 😂. I said : suuuuure❤
The fact is Series X & PS5 should be both at a 299$ USD after being 4 years on the market both corporation have no tangible reasons to keep it at that 499$ price Tag
RIP off £700.00 in uk I'll stay with xbox thanks.
For the price of a series x and a year of gamepass ultimate... Nah I'm good! Sony you drunk off that lil Astrobot buzz?
Flexing a series x is hilarious but keep going lol
@@ToeMcTaggins really?!
600 for 2tb series X
200 for a year of Gamepass
0 is the number of graphic upgrades to graphics on series X
And after that $200 for Gamepass you don’t even own the games you play.
A series x is not a flex my guy 😂. And after your subscription is over you own nothing on the console lmao.
@@SKOTxFREEI got my series X for $350 and I own all of my games physically. Yeh, I’ll take the series X
Who the hell in the right mind would pay ps5 pro for 700 too 800 dollars, Sony to be stopped by doing this
Probably the same people who would pay $600 for a series X with 2TB drive 😂
Brand loyalty.
@@ChrisL-d4ca 4090 is for extreme enthusiasts. There are GPU's far more powerful than the PS5 Pro for less than half the price of a 4090. If anyone is willing to buy a PS5 Pro, they may as well spend a little extra and build a PC capable of running circles around it, with room for future upgrades and customization.
@@SKOTxFREE exactly lol, remember all the people saying like who is gonna buy that PlayStation VR?? Then it sold out. There will be LOTS of people who are going to buy the Ps5 Pro, whatever new $1000+ graphics card is out, the new iPhone and the hardcore Xbox people will get that 2TB Xbox X. Enough people will buy this stuff, no matter how many people on social media and UA-cam act like this is the worst thing ever. Welcome to gaming in the mid-2020's, it is what it is, don't like it, just don't buy it but also let's be realistic, there will be many people who will buy this thing by the time November comes around.
@@SKOTxFREEI mean 2TB ssd is a very good selling point so not really the same
Ps5 pro Digital, Sony is hiding the real price with a Disc Drive which is $780 plus tax, stands sold $30
@@BTMaverick707 They aren’t hiding anything. If you don’t want a drive Sony made it so you don’t have to get it, if you do you can buy one.
Yep, reality is most have physical disc so have to cough up an extra $100
@@SKOTxFREE can it lay without the stand?
@@SKOTxFREE insane argument. People are sheep lmao
@@SKOTxFREE They're hiding it by not calling it a PS5 pro Digital for $700
If MS is on the ball, they should consider a price drop on the Series S and X base models right about now.
They did that last holiday and still no one bought that 💩
Your absolutely right bro Xbox bring down the price for the Holidays🔥🔥👍🏼.
I agree
Consoles don't make any sense anymore. Building a PC is a significantly better option and investment at this point.
Not to mention you have a lot of options too at cheaper prices
I’ll wait for the PS6 Pro. Oh wait… #NoPS6
The new PS6... Disk drive and Controller sticks sold separately.
there is no way I would pay 700 bucks for a mid consul refresh when literally the only upgrade is supposedly 60 frames per second, which they promised us at the beginning of this generation, and they didn’t deliver
@@generationwolves Do you have an 8K TV/monitor? If so, I have good news for you. The GT7 runs at 8K 60fps, just to shut you down. Now what is your next compaint?
@@generationwolves I picked? 😂 No, that's just confirmed from the hands on video Cnet did. Just the first of games... You expect me to list for you the games that can run 8K after not even 24h of reveal? Either way, it's pointless, because not many people have 8K TVs. It just shows the capability, that's all.
Now let's discuss.. If it can run 8K 60fps GT7, you think any other games wouldn't be able to run as well? 😂 GT7 is pretty demanding, lol.
$700, no disk drive (costs $80), no stand ($30), only 13-50 enhanced games... yeah... that's an extremely easy pass. Just get a PC people.
Pc costs way more money than this ps5 pro to match
A $1400 PC will get you an AMD 7800 xt with 16 gigs of VRAM a Ryzen 7 7700x
CPU that clocks between 4.5 and 5.4
GHz, 32 gigs of Ram and an SSD... That will beat anything that remains of "this gen" plus anything "next gen" as well which will equal to about 10 years.
Yeah even my budget rtx 3060 laptop is pretty nice at the time for $1400 a couple years ago. Awesome machine.
Huge L PlayStation time to switch to Xbox.
This is the dumbest comment I've seen reg PS5 pro yet.
@@bharathsankaranarayananthats the dumbest response to that comment Ive seen.
😂 Sony fans did this. They kept on pushing the narrative that they will pay more and more. Sony said "say less"! 💅
Yes they did and now they're having to eat the whole bird with no drink
They just lost $200M from Concord. They need to recoup it from the sheep now.
Actually Sony will lose several hundred Million dollars more with their PS5 Pro. Simple Math ...Sony PS5 Pro = "Epic Fail"🖕
This is legit crazy. It doesn’t even come with the stand. If I didn’t already own a PC, I’d just go buy a PC and build into an awesome rig.
People can save $30 on the stand by just duct taping it to the table. lol ....All hail PC and cheap game prices and free games every week.
@@illuminotme825 It was a horrible design flaw imo and any stands they make should be included in the price, not extra charge
@@c4caffeen134 absolutely...especially if the photo on the box shows it vertical implying that it comes with the stand.
Wait a sec, Sony basically upgraded the Memory Bandwidth and GPU, but left the CPU pretty much the same? Si, we are still going to be struggling to get a locked 60FPS on high demanding games I see. Really Sony?
Builds core and upper body with the GPU upgrade, but skips leg day by keeping the outdated Zen 2 CPU and strains itself by upping the clock speed. If there are games not currently running at a stable 60fps on base PS5 due to CPU limitations, this Pro variant is going to be a complete waste.
Reminds me of my disappointment with the One X. Imo midgen upgrades are a waste, unless they upgrade the cpu. Some exclusive games would be nice too.
@@dctrbrass At least the One X was a lot more affordable. LOL.... Crazy how the One X literally had more games running at native 4K than the Series X and PS5 does. That's nuts! The One X was a damn good system, just had that garbage Jaguar CPU which wasn't really capable of running games at 60FPS.
Damn are you serious Sony wtf.
$700 WITH NO DISC DRIVE. INSANITY!!!
Can't even come close to justifying the purchase of one, just for the lack of disc drive alone. Almost all my games are hardcopy.
I honestly don't see how the numbers add up for Sony on this, because the number of consumers that play games that need the specs and are willing to pony up the cash can't be more than a fraction of the total customer base. How do they expect to get ROI on spinning up a whole new product line?
Weren't Sony having trouble even selling PS5's? Who the hells going to spend this much on a system with no backwards compatibility and no disk drive?
No disc drive, stand is extra. Will be $850 with tax. Hell no
Just like Concord … PlayStation NOT reading the room … disaster immanent.
The price conversion from dollars to pounds is a joke. $700 = £916 rip off.
Easy answer... You shouldn't upgrade to the Pro at this price. No one should buy this thing. If you add in the cost of the vertical stand and the disk drive (both of which came with the launch PS5) you're looking at a 65% price increase over the now 4yr old launch console. Sorry, but that's ridiculous and completely uncalled for. They're doing it because they can. Quite simply there's no competition anymore... So if you don't want a $1,000 PS6, avoid this like the plague.
lol $700 for a console that dont have a disc drive and that would drive the cost up to $800. Thats a big L, not to mention the entire presentation showed games that already looked good on a base PS5 so the differences arent even that noticeable lol.
This makes me regret selling my series x lol
@@dctrbrass Now tell me you sold Series X, bought PS5 and waited to buy PS5 Pro. If so, congrats. You made me laugh... Now let's keep the overpriced comments going and what's not worth over what. 😂
@@Southpaw22 :)
It's the equivalent of $914 in the UK for the digital PS5 Pro. You guys in the US got off lightly.
For 700, I'm turning into Randy Jackson. "It's a no for me, dawg."
If I needed a new console I'd wait for next gen. I wouldn't be spending on an early upgrade I'll have to replace in a few years
You mean add disk drive and vertical stand, you will run around 800 bucks man. Way too much. In Europe it is like 925 Euro, expensive console. I will wait till next year because I played these games which they showed already, why replay them in slightly better graphics and fps. If they want my money show me new games running on it.
I won't buy a console for less than $300...I'm cheap AF like Mr Krabs! 😂
@@PaperBanjo64 I know that shits right IDGAF!🤣
Gonna be about 1,000 here in Canada. That's crazy numbers
£800+ in GBP, over 900€ for the EU, madness.
This will do PSVR2 numbers.
Ps5 pro will flop like concord
See this what happens when you do not have any competition from Microsoft you get a $700 ps5 pro 😂
4yr old XBOX tech + 2TB = £600
4yr old 1TB XBOX tech + Spongebob wrap = £700
New PlayStation tech + 2TB = £700.
I miss when playstation HQ still in Japan
PS4 the last console games before move to Switch or PC
Be careful of what you Sony fans wish. Sony is like we have little competition in console sales, so we can sell it for premium and they will pay it. And you can pay another $80 for the drive. Microsoft should drop the price on all Series consoles today.
Microsoft have zero exclusives, no one is buying them
dont forget the stand as well 😮
I don't see that happening with Microsoft releasing the "special edition" 2TB Series X next month at $600 plus what price point drop would make the best sense for them? $450? $400? And then where does the price for the S go? It's all tricky stuff.
@@deangibb6542 Ahh yes. The design flaw. What happened to the paper clips?
They really think people will buy a $700 for GTAVI... I mean, I just don't see. They charged an extra $100 per line on the console.
Gta VI Will not Run at 60 FPS watch digital Foundry video About it.
The PS6 won't be out for a long time now.
Thanks PS5 Pro!
Well technically the PS5 pro is ps5/ps6 for another 3-5 years until then bro.
Probably in 2026 but it’ll probably be $1000 if this one 700 I’ll guarantee the other one’s gonna be 1000 bucks at least😂😂
2Tb makes the price understandable, just not 4+ years in.
Won’t see Xbox do that ever. History shows that.
Highest they went ever was $600 and that was limited edition consoles with memory upgrades (averagely)
And you’re okay with them charging $600 for a limited edition console that has nothing more added other than a skin? 😂😂 y’all are dumb😂
@@kgrass976 Limited editions are more than skins, lol; they are for collectors, not casual gamers.
@@kgrass976 never said I was ok with it, I love how you did not read between the lines, and dumb dumb Xbox just released a new Xbox series X edition with 2TB memory, refreshed vapor chamber.
But hey Sony hater gonna hate even though their charging $700 for a “Pro” PS5 and it’s still a “ONE TB MEMORY” 😂😂😂😂
@@AridBloom1 literally, like it’s common sense lol
@@AridBloom1 And this could also be for collectors. If people got the money for it, they'll buy it
1 TB with a disc drive for $700 would be more attractive.
So glad I built my PC this year, Radeon 7900 XTX GPU with a Ryzen 7 7800 X3D processor. People, listen to me and make the jump to PC. These console companies are pushing you more towards it anyway. Sony barely has any software titles for you and you're playing games that are multiplatform anyway.
In Eu if you want the full system you have to pay €950, because €800 the console + €120 the bluray drive + €30 the stand. Sony wth!?
And the thing is. It’s on the developers if you can even use that extra boost this condole has unlike pc. With PC the moment you put in that new GPU with a driver update you can use that extra power. For every game. Better graphics or higher fps. Or both
They should have put a 7800 xt or a 7900 gre in the PS5 Pro for that price.
Vote with your wallets! DON'T buy it!
800euro in EU
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It's 950 with stand and discdrive 💀
@@ROLOSMOKESridiculous
@@ROLOSMOKES Holy shit!
I got a lot of flack for saying that when they raised the price of the PS5 in Japan that the pro wouldn't be $500 at release. I also got a lot of flack when I said that I thought the PS5 pro would be an all digital system. And guess what, it ended up being $700 (more depending on where you live based on conversion rates) and also ended up being all digital (with the option to purchase a detachable disc drive which will cost an additional $100).
Cool story bro.. Predicting the future only matters if you're able to do it when money is on the line like with sports gambling, stocks etc....
@@michaelangst6078 You jealous? 🤣
@@Donald_Allan Not really. It was very obvous it wasn't going to launch at $500 making sony sell the ps5 at $350. I would have guessed $600 wtihout a disc drive if I had to gamble on the price... i bet you would have predicted this too. You're not special
@@michaelangst6078 Well you seem a bit hot and bothered by my comment 🤣 Maybe some fresh air will do you good 🤣
You can beat the PS5Pro specks with a 850$ - r5 5600x, 7800XT 16GB, 16GB DDR4, 2TBSSD
I'd rather wait for a next gen console or better PC in 3 yrs when new consoles come out
Better get used rx 6950 xt it's more powerful and cheaper than 7800xt
You dudes need to chill with that misinformation. That "build" is missing a lot of parts and wouldn't amount to 850$ at all.
Nah I'd Pass
@@kaireng Yeah... you can't build a PC with the same specs for the same money... so you beat what? 😂 What kind of an argument is this... 😂 150 bucks more... That's exactly what others are crying here about... They expected it to be priced 100 bucks less.
No one mentions that our favourite pony Magg said its confirmed 599$ 😂. Magg you fraud, you better be also wrong about halo, forza and starfield going to ps too! 😂
Totally not worth it. It's a hard pass for me...
Hell handheld PC's are that price. With probably better performance. Buy a dock and your on the big screen
Paystation, this is for the payers!! 🤣🤣🤣 cannot believe it’s £700, plus £80 for disc drive that’s insane. The PS4 Pro/X1X sold okay but nowhere near main console sales and the PS4 Pro was cheaper than X1X which had native 4k resolution! This isn’t even going to sell similar to PS4 Pro.
$700 scares you? try 800€…
It's more like 900 plus
@@svenmanning how?
People need to take a hint from now that the Series X2 is most likely to be £700 and the handheld could be £400 to £500 in 2026. I already have £600 saved so far.
I have a PS5 but i won't purchase the Pro because we are half through the gen and if the rumours are true that the new next gen Xbox releasing 2026, i rather wait until Xbox releases it.
Very redundant announcement since with the “original” PS5, Sony promised that their console was able to do all those things. I rather upgrade my pc instead.
It's actually $800 in the EU.
Damn thats so lame.
Not sure if anyone else is talking about it but if the PS5 Pro is $699. Then the next Xbox/PS6 will be right there as well. If not maybe another $100-$200 more.
This needs to be the Gen that bridges the gap between Console and PC!
$600 or $700 for a next gen system is understandable but not for a mid gen
A single $ over 600 is wasted on this and that is with a disc drive. Ps6 and next gen is round the corner in 3-4 years. No point in spending so much. I can spend 70-80$ to get a gen 4 ssd for the og ps5.
I thought to myself "maybe.... maybe it's gonna be about $600 which seems about normal for a PS five pro when you consider the fact that the PS3 launched at that exact price over a decade ago!?"
I almost passed out laughing so hard when you said $700 😂😂
They just keep separating us don't they?
Ps5 Pro Digital $700
Disc drive $80
PSplus premium $160
$940 before taxes…
Wtf
PS6 will start from $1k just like Iphone
@@Dregomz02 shit maybe Sony should offer a payment plan at this point
Must be that 200 million plus dollars lost from Concord lol
You have to be careful not using physical media… I buy alot of disk for birthdays, Christmas etc…
Digital stuff is too risky honestly, anything could happen to it. About as safe as a live surface game that only last a year or so...
$700 for a Radeon RX-7700XT.
I see no reason to upgrade to a PS5 PRO. I can see maybe getting one if you don’t mind spending a ton of money on one if you already do not have a PS5. But still $699 is actually insane
Did Sony not learn from the PS3 launch pricing? I'd expect sales be underwhelming and low. Disgusting price points for a lack of disc drive and stand.
They dont have a choice. If Microspft stopped making Xbox consoles...they would still have a thrivng 97% share of the PC market and the biggest mobile games market and a soon to be dominant share of the streaming gamws market. If Sony stops making Playstations...then they will just be a 3rd party on Micrsofts PC platform.
@@biscuitinetrisket5309 they do have a choice if come next year the price of the console falls due to lack of sales. Either that or they keep the price the same and chuck in the stand and drive free to keep consumers happy.
£699 crosses over to $917 why do we always get screws in the UK man what a joke
PS5 pro 2tb 699.99 it comes with no stand, and disk drive worst mistake PlayStation can make, want the stand $29.99, disk drive $79.99. this reminds me of the PlayStation 3 original price... This already has backlash
I was looking at picking up a PS5 Pro to compliment my Xbox and Nintendo Switch. However Sony just did me a favor. At $800 plus for the complete system, I’m just gonna throw that money into some investments.
However if they sold it at $600 with disc drive I would have been sold.
I'm really looking forward to your PS5 Pro vs 700buck PC vs 600buck Series X game comparisons and analysis.
It can't be done. Did you watch this video? I already showed it
Sony right back to their arrogance and greed. I’m not surprised
I’m sorry it’s not an upgrade. All they did was tweak 6-7 year old technology to actually be able to produce 60fps with higher resolution like the ps5 was originally supposed to do. Sony pulled an apple and did this shit on purpose and the sheep just bahhh all the way to the pen to buy anything with a ps logo on it.
XSX 2 TB vs PS5 Pro 2 TB $160 difference in Canada will have to see if there is ultimately much of a difference
History is repeating itself. PS3, then the Xbox One. Now this. But this wont kill Sony like it did with the PS3 since its mid gen console.
Nope.
Man I am so looking forward for next week’s podcast already!
I'm not even a Playstation fan and I'm angry!
Great presentation Colt 👏🏽, For that price. There has to be some hardware that will take full advantage of upscaling tech and it is full RDNA 2, but it still limited to same CPU. Interesting to see the full specs of Ps5 Pro and see how this plays out, Stay Safe.
I'm having flashbacks to 2006's "599 US Dollars" and "RIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACER!". Giant Enemy Crab sold separately.
The PS5 pro doesn't have a disk drive!? LMFAO disk drive sold separately...
That's like buying a fancy new sports car...with NO WHEELS. Like why the fuck would you?
I’m disappointed hasn’t made a “pro” version of XSX just going to stay radio silent it seems smh
The PS5 Remake increase of $250
It does have 2tb of storage. $700 is still nuts though.
Ps5 pro is so freaking expensive they need to lower the price xbox series s is only 300 dollars and the ps5 slim is only 478.84 the ps5 consoles are getting more and more expensive
800€ is insane 😂