The problem is the Air Force is letting her play Fashion model! She’s setting women officers back 40 years. All the issues we have been fighting for. What nonsense. If she wants to be a pretty model than resign the commission and go walk a runway. Whoever approved this should get fired! This is not recruitment! I’m sure the other services are laughing at the Air Force now!
@zoharab22 - In some cases, that statement may have multiple deep meanings, such as describing a night on the toilet, after eating a taco and burrito. It also was an unforgetable experience, in a way full of G-force, and "after burners" and "living the dream" is also applicable to this situation. Sorry, I couldn't resist ;) - good episode as always!
She learned to fly at 16, is an Air Force Academy graduate, has a degree in astrophysics, and now working on a Master's in Public Policy. She's also a beautiful blonde. The other ladies must've felt like they were competing for 2nd place from the get go.
And she's a fucking BLACK BELT in Taekwondo. I mean, come ON! I will say, I'm glad that this is becoming the norm. I feel like Mallory Hagan and Nina Davuluri were one of the first ones to be this kind of modern all-rounder that a pageant winner SHOULD be, and not just an airhead with a pretty face.
She is exactly who should be Miss America. Not just pretty, but smart, intelligent, with solid goals in life. She's done a lot and has a lot of experience. The Academy is tough. Learning to pilot isn't easy. Harvard is a top tier school. Masters Degree is not easy. She has put in work.
I’m the Station SgtMaj at MCAS Beaufort and I got to ride in the back of #4 the slot, with the blue angels last year for the Friday practice demo for our air show. It was amazing and by the end I had to give everything I had to not puke. In my head I was saying “The station SgtMaj can’t puke on this ride. This is so cool but is it over yet” I did pass out and I didn’t puke. The base CO, a UH-1 pilot passed out when he got a ride the year before, I reminded him of that all the time.
F-16 FAM flight in 2001 at Luke (310 FS). Two bagger with Lantirn pod. Low level to the range, dropped 6 BDU-33s and 2 strafing runs. Over G'd the jet at 7.8. Didn't get sick, but wasn't feeling 100% near the end. Great experience and will never forget the amount of work the pilots do put into a mission.
I came so close to getting an incitive flight in an F16 for winning airman of the quarter back in 2002 at Cannon AFB. Was in the 3 finalists but got beat out. That was pretty disappointing. edit - I completely forgot about this. I got to do a ride along in the U2 chase car at Al Dhafra for getting squadron airman of the month. I helped with a bunch of airfield improvements. I thought it was a bit weird as that was my job - airfield management. That was a cool experience though!
Love the mover and Gonky show every Monday night. I’m a recently retired captain on the triple seven at American having float all the Boeings and also log 1000 hours in the A1 E and the TA 4J. Listen to you guys it’s just like hanging around the ready room back in the 80s really enjoy it.
14:05 I've seen TOP GUN MAVERICK and I've seen all the internet chatter, so based on this footage and those "conversations," she's 100% for sure flying this plane all by herself and with no assistance whatsoever.
Great video/commentary. Former Eagle Driver and AT-38 Smurf IP w/ lots of fam & incentive rides. The most memorable was a mx troop who I reenlisted during the flight. He handled everything I could throw at him. His last request was for a tail slide. The tail slide was too good, as we slide backwards almost 1000 ft before the F-15D flipped over and went into some wild gyrations with the departure warning tone going off. I was able to recover the jet and continue the mission, but never did another tail slide for the remainder of my over 2000 hours of Eagle time.
18 years in the RAAF and a ground tech (Engines/Airframe) always wanted to fly where the earth is round and the sky is black, busting mach1 was The dream. Never happened....thank goodness for DCS :) Great video guys. Wombat, I always fly on an empty stomach or it is bag time
After 14 years as a Crew Chief on F-15C's I got a Orientation ride in a pair of D models (another Crew Chief was in the other one) while at Tyndal AFB. We did some ACM doing offensive-defensive set-ups. We Pulled 8.5 during the point we were doing the defensive side. Got queasy as we got into the pattern on the way home after the ACM was finished. Realized that I'd put my puke-bag in the flightsuit and not the G-suit. I found a strength I didn't think I had in muscling-back-down the small amount of food in my stomach. We even got to go to the altitude chamber prior because we were going up over 10k (or whatever the threshold is for not going to the altitude chamber). Great times and one of the highlights in my 22 year USAF career.
Nice. Got my Incentive ride in a F-15D back in 96'. My 8th year in. I was already flying Ultralights and Paragliders by then myself. The G's is what got me. Didn't completely blackout(greyed out). But 8 G's was all I could take. My pilot asked if I wanted to try higher than 8... I said: "Nope, I'm good." He let me have the Aircraft for a bit since he knew I was a light A/C flyer. That was pretty cool getting actual stick time in an F-15.
@andrewt.5567 Hahaha exactly. Boggles my mind that people would be surprised that. "Can you believe that the Public Relations department are trying to relate to the public!?"
In my almost 4 years as a flight instructor, I'm happy to say I've never had anyone throw up in the plane. I can't say the same for myself when I was in training though 😂
Love watching this video and then again with you guys! My Fam ride was in 2019 at Luke AFB…we did a 4 v 4 and it was the ride of my life! Life changing experience for sure and I’m so grateful to the maintainers and pilots on our mission. So much work and planning go into every flight….amazing professionals. Thank you Mover,Gonky and Wombat for your service! Also I was privileged to fly in Tail#778…the Mighty Killer,shot down a Mig 25 in Iraq in 91,and the first Aim120 air to air kill by then Lt. Col North….great history!
I was a racing driver - son of a Phantom pilot - and one of my absolute favorite things was giving rides. No matter how big a fan someone is, and how many races they go to, they still relate what we do to what they do when they drive to the shops. We just push the gas pedal a bit harder. So to have the opportunity to get them in the car and actually have them experience what it is that we do, and give them that experience, is a lot of fun. Strokes our ego, and blows their minds. Their conception of the limits and the actual limits are miles apart. We’d have the occasional puker too. My favorite was the gentleman who was thoughtful enough to catch his spew in his sweater and spent the rest of the lap balancing it so as not to spill any. A gentleman indeed! Sadly, at the school where I instructed in the UK, we did have a participant die after a demo lap. Told the instructor “I don’t feel very well”, got out, walked into the garage and collapsed with a heart attack. Thankfully the vast majority had the time of their lives, and we got some great stories!
Yeah, we all think we're race car drivers when we take a fast turn of follow "the line" around a curve. lol. But at the speed you drive... it's a whole other game. You don't have time to make decisions unless you've trained a whole lot of muscle memory. Mad respect to anyone doing anything high performance. Plane, car, boat, skiing, anything.
When I went through AFROTC Field Encampment (ROTC Basic Training-ish) in June '94 they had us do Jet Orientation (JET-O). I did JET-O at Laughlin AFB in Del Rio, TX, in a T-37 Tweet. It was 115 in the shade that day on the flight line. By the time we took off I had sweat through my BDUs completely, and the parachute was already wet. We left the canopy up until we were at the hold-short, then took off quick. 500 ft off the ground, the IP shakes the stick and says "copilot has the stick"... We did loops, clovers, barrels, ran down the border, getting shadowed by Mexican F-16s. Most fun I've had in my life. Not a bit of air/motion sickness (never have) but when we dropped back down and slowed to get into the pattern the heat came back so fast that I couldn't take it. I didn't puke, but I almost passed out, had to gang-load and it was amazing how quickly that helped me feel better. What a great experience, that IP was a great dude. Too bad they don't do that anymore.
@KellySmith-kw2cl was your Field Training at Dyess? I had my Jet-O at Laughlin in 78. I drew the T-38 and had a similar experience on my flight. Didn’t get sick but I was soaked when it was over.
Holy crap this looks familiar. Flew on a cold day so takeoff and max climb performance was outstanding even with two bags. I made it about 45 minutes before letting go of what little food and nasty Gatorade I had consumed before. I did go 100% O2 after about 15 minutes which may have bought me some time. I went in the lounge afterward and just laid there while the Wing Commander and Deputies complemented my endurance. Amazing ride!
My experience 1992 Incentive ride in an F-15E over North Carolina. Too long ago to be able to say how the jet was configured. It was a 2 ship with another Incentive rider in the other backseat. The plan was to have a "mock" dogfight with the other jet, but the other back seater got too sick. So, my Pilot had the second jet hang out nearby, and we did what he called "Cloud chasing". It jsut so happened to be a nice sunny day with the high "puffy" clouds around. We dove down between gaps, in between laterally weaving through the gaps and climbing up in between the gaps in the clouds. At one point I was allowed to roll & loop the jet as well. Suprisingly I did not get sick during the 1.5 ride, got really darn close a few times though. The best experience in my life, that is for sure.
My brother was a private pilot with many hours of experience. I used to fly with him and enjoyed when he practiced various types of Stalls and other Emergency procedures. And never got sick at all.
I knew someone who had to eject from an f16 on an incentive flight when they lost the engine. Happened at Cannon AFB back in 1999. The pilot was our 27th OSS squadron commander. Airman on the incentive flight broke his ankle but everyone was ok otherwise.
Dude. That dude was so lucky (getting the flight), ejecting and breaking ankle (unlucky) but got to experience something only a few get to (lucky). 2 lucky versus 1 unlucky. That's a win.
In the intro you tagged Wombat with the possible cancellation notice. In the meantime Gonky is planning a much more insidious attack: "I'd like to get a ride!" 🤣🤣🤣
My late father was a career Air Force officer and flew F-4 in Vietnam (210 missions). Dad said that his back seater would throw up a bit from time to time.
Even if you don't get sick often, there is a difference in "preparing" for what the jet was going to do over "reacting" to what the jet was doing. Unfortunately the back seater is often in the "reacting" stage and the tummy will get the best of em on occasion.
Funny show again gentlemen. I had a near miss with his kind of flight in the mid 1980's . Bear in mind I live and work in the UK. A colleague who worked for Microsoft UK was in the US at McDill AFB doing some work with the USAF - He called me up and said how quickly can you get over here as I have the chance for us both to get rides in F-16B's (he knew I was a big aircraft nut) - I couldn't get off work for 3 days - he had a wonderful flight!
Man, I love this channel. I found it with the Maverick reaction videos, which are absolutely hilarious. I love learning about the life and work of a fighter pilot, and I love the jokes as well. It's a great channel, and I am glad I subscribed. Thank you for your service, Mover, Gonky, and Wombat.
Same here. I liked learning what’s different in real life than the movie. I think that was almost a year ago we’re I first watched them. Time really flies.
We called our PLF the feet-ass-head. He's not lying about getting your straps situated right. At airborne school I got a strap-testicle malfunction in the swing landing trainer. Met in agony as I hung there and my blackhat not giving a shit. ROFL!
These guys are funny. Wombat is me at work pointing out the humor of the absurdity in the current events, while Mover is my exasperated coworker trying to be serious to not get the meeting derailed, and Gonky was my coworker trying prevent HR to visit me and keeping the peace. LOL. I can relate to Wombat's sense of humor.
I worked as a DoD employee and a military contractor for 7 years, never had the chance to ride in an aircraft I maintained, F-106B, RA-5C, A7D or A4L, etc.. But as a crew chief on commercial Sikorsky helicopters, I have over 2000 hours. We had one pilot who loved to do hammerhead stalls, the mechanic(me) sitting at the open cargo door looking down. Never got sick. Miss America fam flight is a great recruiting PR stunt for now. Will she go to flight school after Harvard, we will see.
If I ever had the chance to choose between an incentive or a FAM flight I'm sure I'd choose the FAM. Not only you do get the ride but you get to see the mission as it is! Don't get me wrong, I'd sell my mother and yours for a chance to sit in a Viper, let alone fly in one... but doing something with it gotta be next level cool. I've got acro hours under my belt (mainly gliders and some Su-29) and I'm sure a Viper would blow my brains out. I might even be puking my guts out and begging for more with a grin large enogh to split my head. Great work, the three of you.
The problem is she segregated herself in the military. Any military member that glorifies themself in the spotlight immediately separates them from the rest. Back to basic training, everyone is broken down to the point where literally everyone is on the same level. That's not the same when someone has a spotlight of media on them. Everyone in a platoon is gonna look at that person with the preferential treatment like, "What makes him/her so godd*mned special"? The more I watch you guys talk about her (Miss America), the more I see that basic training mentality I'm talking about, all while trying to be diplomatic about it like officers do. I believe what she's doing is a publicity stunt. With recruiting numbers so low, I think this is more of a recruitment tool than anything. "HEY, join the Air Force, join the Navy, join the Marines, look who you will be fighting alongside with." Or, "Look BOYS, there's a literal angel in the skies watching over you." Don't get me wrong, her story, which sounds somewhat legit, is great and full of fluff, but I doubt she would be accepted into any squadron because of the media attention. And by accepted I mean by peers, because if they were peers then either all of them (in a squadron or platoon or whatever) would get the same attention or none at all. What I'm trying to say is, if we're all E-5's, we're all E-5's. If we're all O-1's, we're all O-1's, not O-1+Miss America. We're either all equal within or respective ranks/jobs, or were not.
Hey Mover. I'm now the proud owner of a Wiley X Aries G312LA (in Foliage Green). I saw them being worn in several air combat movies but I never knew the name of the brand until you you were "Ruining Top Gun Maverick" and you said "...hey, Wiley X". So, thanks! I'm not like you guys and I only fly General Aviation but still, it's perfect to dial nobs, flick switches and press buttons.
She has a degree from the Air Force Academy and she is now getting her masters. She is a very smart lady. She has a pilot slot for her when she is done with her masters. She is already a civilian pilot and the Miss America thing is just good PR for the Air Force. I am sure the guys in the pilot fitting room were very happy to work with her. She won the Miss America contest so now she has to do all the PR for that for a year. She has a bright future. I wonder if she will take that pilot slot in a year or two?
14:15 the back of the seat is angled so far away from her head , she went to rest her head back and realized it was so far reclined. You can see it again at 9:53 how far away her head is
Air Force takes care of their planes. My unit took F-16s from other squadrons in '82 and won Gunsmoke in '87. Same planes in Desert Storm had a 92% FMC rate.
I was an F-16 crew chief at Edwards for an enlistment and never got a ride. Early 2000s. They just didn’t do incentive flights at Edwards then, even though we had plenty of B and D models. Right before I got out, they started giving some people rides. At the 416th FLTS, only our expediter got a ride (for the first time in his career). A 2nd Lt that that worked at the Flight Test Center that was in the honor guard with me got a ride. I was a little mad. Me as super airman doing all the things you’re supposed to be a shit hot airman, got nothing. I wanted to be a pilot and A LOT of the other crew chief hated pilots. They made it feel like I was betraying them by wanting to do that. Never would let me drop my commission program package, even though it was a sure thing if I submitted it. But hey, I did get a combat descent and takeoff on a C-130 into and out of Iraq that was pretty intense! Attacks on the base had picked up when we left, and they had been trying to target aircraft taking off and landing (luckily they were pretty shitty at targeting, and no one got hit while I was there). I did feel the most concerned the entire time one that flight out like that would be the time it happens-spent months there, survived everything and that’s when it would happen on the way home. At least later on in the Guard I’ve gotten a couple hundred hours in a 135 and seen some cool stuff. Got to experience some negative Gs and such when I was on board documenting some other mission stuff before they did some adversarial treat contact. Impressive what a 135 can do compared to an airliners. Having an MEP letter is the only way to fly😎
IROK (year 2000 version) Inflate LPU (flotation device) Raft (deploy / inflate) Options: Visor: up or down Mask: off Gloves: off Koch (fittings) find / locate with hands, fingers ready to release parachute upon water entry or after surviving PLF upon ground contact.
@@av8rgrip Copy that, Good catch. Inspect canopy to ensure condition, help deciding to use the 4 line release to steering mod. I knew my 68 year old brain had forgotten a step. East or West Harriers? Did a tour at Aviation Physiology (Survival) Training at MCAS Cherry Point.
I’m not far behind you. This was just some of the now useless data still stored in my brain along with T-34 impending engine failure procedures and A-4 OCF procedures.
No F-16 flight but within 3 weeks, first had an O-2 FAC flight and an F-4 flight, what a treat! I did get sick on the O-2 flight ( Cpt..Kent was trying to get me...), but I know I only got a bit queasy on my F-4 flight, even on AB climb-out!! I loved both flights for the incredible experiences back in my AAC(aka Alaskan Air Circus) days!!
You know, going to the Academy, then Harvard for public policy, then winning Miss America... that's legit an impressive run. This would be so incredibly fun to get to do. Having played more hours of flight simulators and combat sims than I could ever count, it would be fun to feel the real thing.
I remember my Incentive ride back in the 90's. F-15 though. Didn't toss my cookies at all. My pilot tried to make me ill. I told him I don't get motion sickness, yet he still tired. :) I did have a nice grey out though. I wasn't ready for 8 G's. I'd done lots of 4 and 5 G wing-overs on my Paraglider, but that's nothing compared to a sustained 8.
She's also a kick ass member of the USAF and a grad from the academy. But yes, it is BS because they fly jets every day and many have a backseat. It's nothing to make sure everyone in the service who works directly with the jets gets a ride. Maybe not in years 1-4 but for re-enlistment bonus or something.
Nothing better than getting a 15 ride and giggling/laughing your ass off as the world view rapidly dwindles to a pinprick of light and then getting to do it again and again :)
They may have updated the helmet fitting procedure for smaller/lighter folks after the research into the heavy F-35 helmets and skinnier necks during ejection. Easier to do it with everyone regardless of the actual helmet weight as a new standard procedure.
I still remember how to steer a parachute using toggles from the MC-1 parachute and do a dynamic PLF from going through the US Army Airborne School because I enlisted to be an Airborne Infantryman in the Army. I always say "Air Force and Navy pilots always land, Paratroopers always crash to land.". She is an OUTSTANDING woman in my opinion!!! Oh doing a PLF is what we call "Feet, Ass, and Head".
Great episode, really enjoyed! Fitted helmets? Not in the 60's - 80's. You got issued and told to like it. G-suit and torso harness same. Flight boots at least were shoe size....Still have my flight helmet from VA-212 circa '73. Rubber and plastic a little decayed, but the colorful logos are still OK. Minor dings from walking into a/c wings on the flight deck, tho. LOL Pete
You might want to check out Urszula Brzezińska-Hołownia, quite similar to the lady from the video, who is a wife of the Polish parliament speaker Szymon Hołownia, and a lieutentant in the Polish Air Force. She flies Polish NATO-ized MiG-29. There was a famous meme right after the recent elections in Poland with a picture showing her inside her MiG in full combat outfit, signed: "They said they'd end the nepotism, but look, just a few days after the elections the parliament speaker's wife flies around for free in a state-funded aircraft!"
For my first incentive ride I was told to have "weak tea and dry toast" for breakfast, no puking. On my second it was "have a banana, because they taste the same coming up as they do going down". Words of wisdom.
@@donttouchthis56 First was a Tweet (T-37) ride for Airman of the Quarter, second was a T-38 for making Below-the-Zone promotion to E-4 (Senior Airman).
Long ago, and far away (1986) they used to pour your helmet for a custom fit. That involved molten foam poured into a mold that was clamped to your skull. It was like your head was being crushed by lava.
Hey guys thanks for sharing your thougts on this it was good. I’m French and I would love to hear what you tkink about the French Navy. There is a YT channel called " chasse embarqué". It’s active French navy fighter pilot sharing their OP on board of the carrier. That will give you some contents to review. Keep up the good mood !
Fun fact - She was supposed to drive the pace car for the NASCAR race at Dover back in May - but it was a stick shift and she told me she can't drive a stick. And, sidebar, country music star Luke Combs was supposed to drive the pace car at Nashville this past weekend, but like Miss America, he can't drive a stick.
Naves Jamali’s interview of her for Unconventional is up. Mostly she in the Newsweek office in Manhattan in her sash and tiara. About three minutes longer than his episode on the Mover/Gonky fini flight.
Something my 20 year military experience taught me is that your job demands 100% focus and dedication, if not you endanger yourself or your teammates. Hopefully this story doesn’t end the same way Maybelline’s did.
With all the distractions she must be facing, I gotta believe UPT is gonna be a special challenge for this lady. Hopefully she can concentrate on the task at hand and that there aren't any internal/external pressures to "get her through". We don't need another Kara Hultgreen - especially one this visible and endeared by the public. I truly wish her the very best.
Wow! I was totally amazed that you said every “incentive” flight you did you would pull nine Gs with the ride along. So what percentage of people just passed out? Wouldn’t the vast majority of average non-pilot people pass out every time at nine Gs? Love the show!!!
I can't pick... both the F-16 and the F-18 are gorgeous planes. Hard to believe sometimes how old the F-16 is. Kind of surprised how much they had loaded on it. Were they expecting to have to fight their way back to base?
Beats another boring day in the office... Q: How did Wombat get his call sign? Here in Aussie, 'Wombat' is used to describe someone who gets around a bit, e.g. "eats, roots, shoots and leaves"... 🤣🤣
Pops flew F-4Js in Hawai'i out of Kaneohe (USMC) in the 80s. Giving a "friendly" hop to ROTC or Midshipmen was always, "how much until they puke" 😂 then go easy
She is not going to be a pilot, she has a total other path now she is Miss America, my opinion, she is going to work for media, or other high profile jobs. Don't forget being a Miss, is a lot going on. Or being a diplomatic, not this, what is she thinking?
Have either of you guys ever done the low level flight path over 36.618468, -117.992860 or 36.613189, -118.007344? If so, what do pilots call the area? I go out almost everyday to watch planes fly. I have seen C-17's, a F-117, several F-22's, F-35's, F-16's, and mostly F-18's, even a test 747 for GE. Just so you know, there are many fan boys watching flights and we just can't get enough.
Those mountains look like Colorado Springs. Probably AF Academy or Peterson. Can't say im 100% sure. But miss Nevada would more likely fly out of Nellis.
She is a USAFA graduate if I understand correctly. They're going crazy at the Academy right now because they graduated a celebrity. :) 22:45 And there you have it. She's not Miss America on that fam ride---she's 2LT Marsh. And friendly ribbing from senior pilots down to the newbies is one of the most time-honored traditions in the military aviation community. That said...I do wonder how the USAF is going to manage the split in duties between flight school/other advanced officer training, and Miss America. MA is mainly ceremonial stuff, but there are opportunities for motivational speaking, etc. The Air Force is going to require her to really buckle down if she's going to compete for a pilot slot.
She already has a pilot slot when she graduated from the AFA. She is currently in a grad school working on a Masters degree totally unrelated to a pilot career path. I highly doubt she will ever go to UPT.
she got her pilot's license in her early teens - got into USAFA [acceptance rate of 10%] - graduated with a technical degree - got a pilot slot - got into Harvard for postgrad - proby would excel at a fighter pilot had she chosen to - dudes be jealous - how many of those boxes do you check?
Mover and Gonky trying so hard to keep this respectful…
Would hope so as she is an officer in the military. Hopefully you’re being respectful of that too…
The problem is the Air Force is letting her play Fashion model! She’s setting women officers back 40 years. All the issues we have been fighting for. What nonsense. If she wants to be a pretty model than resign the commission and go walk a runway. Whoever approved this should get fired!
This is not recruitment! I’m sure the other services are laughing at the Air Force now!
@@Dogwalkingmom22 while I do believe a woman should be pretty and modest in this case it just doesn't feel right and I agree
@@Dogwalkingmom22nah it's fine.
@@Dogwalkingmom22 What a load of crap.
"Throwing up and living his dream at the same time" perfectly describes every aerobatic flight I've ever had. What a fantastic episode.
@zoharab22 - In some cases, that statement may have multiple deep meanings, such as describing a night on the toilet, after eating a taco and burrito.
It also was an unforgetable experience, in a way full of G-force, and "after burners" and "living the dream" is also applicable to this situation.
Sorry, I couldn't resist ;) - good episode as always!
I finally got an explanation of the difference between an incentive ride and a fam ride. Thanks, Mover.
I went and asked ChatGPT before they explained it, so I was already in the know when Mover explained it.
Made me feel like I was in the club.
She learned to fly at 16, is an Air Force Academy graduate, has a degree in astrophysics, and now working on a Master's in Public Policy. She's also a beautiful blonde. The other ladies must've felt like they were competing for 2nd place from the get go.
I'm glad we have people like her representing Miss America nowadays instead of the "is Iraq a US state" morons in the 2000's
^ 😂
It was sooo bad back then.
Wonder if she has an interest in running for office if she's interested in public policy?
And she's a fucking BLACK BELT in Taekwondo. I mean, come ON!
I will say, I'm glad that this is becoming the norm. I feel like Mallory Hagan and Nina Davuluri were one of the first ones to be this kind of modern all-rounder that a pageant winner SHOULD be, and not just an airhead with a pretty face.
She is exactly who should be Miss America. Not just pretty, but smart, intelligent, with solid goals in life. She's done a lot and has a lot of experience. The Academy is tough. Learning to pilot isn't easy. Harvard is a top tier school. Masters Degree is not easy. She has put in work.
I’m the Station SgtMaj at MCAS Beaufort and I got to ride in the back of #4 the slot, with the blue angels last year for the Friday practice demo for our air show. It was amazing and by the end I had to give everything I had to not puke. In my head I was saying “The station SgtMaj can’t puke on this ride. This is so cool but is it over yet” I did pass out and I didn’t puke. The base CO, a UH-1 pilot passed out when he got a ride the year before, I reminded him of that all the time.
Semper Fi SgtMaj 🫡
F-16 FAM flight in 2001 at Luke (310 FS). Two bagger with Lantirn pod. Low level to the range, dropped 6 BDU-33s and 2 strafing runs. Over G'd the jet at 7.8. Didn't get sick, but wasn't feeling 100% near the end. Great experience and will never forget the amount of work the pilots do put into a mission.
I came so close to getting an incitive flight in an F16 for winning airman of the quarter back in 2002 at Cannon AFB. Was in the 3 finalists but got beat out. That was pretty disappointing.
edit - I completely forgot about this. I got to do a ride along in the U2 chase car at Al Dhafra for getting squadron airman of the month. I helped with a bunch of airfield improvements. I thought it was a bit weird as that was my job - airfield management. That was a cool experience though!
Ms America flys LEFT stick..........lol.
Tophats Rule!
Made it half way through the comments and there's no "She could pull my stick anytime"
Well done fellas. 😎
Until you... xD
And now its the third comment, Well done Casey
Love the mover and Gonky show every Monday night. I’m a recently retired captain on the triple seven at American having float all the Boeings and also log 1000 hours in the A1 E and the TA 4J. Listen to you guys it’s just like hanging around the ready room back in the 80s really enjoy it.
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VA-46 the Clansmen 🎉
14:05 I've seen TOP GUN MAVERICK and I've seen all the internet chatter, so based on this footage and those "conversations," she's 100% for sure flying this plane all by herself and with no assistance whatsoever.
Great video/commentary. Former Eagle Driver and AT-38 Smurf IP w/ lots of fam & incentive rides. The most memorable was a mx troop who I reenlisted during the flight. He handled everything I could throw at him. His last request was for a tail slide. The tail slide was too good, as we slide backwards almost 1000 ft before the F-15D flipped over and went into some wild gyrations with the departure warning tone going off. I was able to recover the jet and continue the mission, but never did another tail slide for the remainder of my over 2000 hours of Eagle time.
Sounds like you had a great life flying !!!
18 years in the RAAF and a ground tech (Engines/Airframe) always wanted to fly where the earth is round and the sky is black, busting mach1 was The dream. Never happened....thank goodness for DCS :) Great video guys. Wombat, I always fly on an empty stomach or it is bag time
the look on wombats face at times at the cringe jokes was priceless, keep up the good work mover!
After 14 years as a Crew Chief on F-15C's I got a Orientation ride in a pair of D models (another Crew Chief was in the other one) while at Tyndal AFB. We did some ACM doing offensive-defensive set-ups. We Pulled 8.5 during the point we were doing the defensive side. Got queasy as we got into the pattern on the way home after the ACM was finished. Realized that I'd put my puke-bag in the flightsuit and not the G-suit. I found a strength I didn't think I had in muscling-back-down the small amount of food in my stomach. We even got to go to the altitude chamber prior because we were going up over 10k (or whatever the threshold is for not going to the altitude chamber). Great times and one of the highlights in my 22 year USAF career.
Nice. Got my Incentive ride in a F-15D back in 96'. My 8th year in. I was already flying Ultralights and Paragliders by then myself. The G's is what got me. Didn't completely blackout(greyed out). But 8 G's was all I could take. My pilot asked if I wanted to try higher than 8... I said: "Nope, I'm good." He let me have the Aircraft for a bit since he knew I was a light A/C flyer. That was pretty cool getting actual stick time in an F-15.
"He's just puking and living his dream," I believe these are words to live by!
Gotta love the Airforce public affairs making a mini doc out of this.
Air Force is two words.
That is literally their job. At least they are doing it and seizing the opportunity.
@andrewt.5567 Hahaha exactly. Boggles my mind that people would be surprised that.
"Can you believe that the Public Relations department are trying to relate to the public!?"
In my almost 4 years as a flight instructor, I'm happy to say I've never had anyone throw up in the plane. I can't say the same for myself when I was in training though 😂
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Love watching this video and then again with you guys! My Fam ride was in 2019 at Luke AFB…we did a 4 v 4 and it was the ride of my life! Life changing experience for sure and I’m so grateful to the maintainers and pilots on our mission. So much work and planning go into every flight….amazing professionals. Thank you Mover,Gonky and Wombat for your service! Also I was privileged to fly in Tail#778…the Mighty Killer,shot down a Mig 25 in Iraq in 91,and the first Aim120 air to air kill by then Lt. Col North….great history!
You should get her on the podcast
I was a racing driver - son of a Phantom pilot - and one of my absolute favorite things was giving rides. No matter how big a fan someone is, and how many races they go to, they still relate what we do to what they do when they drive to the shops. We just push the gas pedal a bit harder. So to have the opportunity to get them in the car and actually have them experience what it is that we do, and give them that experience, is a lot of fun. Strokes our ego, and blows their minds. Their conception of the limits and the actual limits are miles apart. We’d have the occasional puker too. My favorite was the gentleman who was thoughtful enough to catch his spew in his sweater and spent the rest of the lap balancing it so as not to spill any. A gentleman indeed! Sadly, at the school where I instructed in the UK, we did have a participant die after a demo lap. Told the instructor “I don’t feel very well”, got out, walked into the garage and collapsed with a heart attack. Thankfully the vast majority had the time of their lives, and we got some great stories!
Yeah, we all think we're race car drivers when we take a fast turn of follow "the line" around a curve. lol. But at the speed you drive... it's a whole other game. You don't have time to make decisions unless you've trained a whole lot of muscle memory. Mad respect to anyone doing anything high performance. Plane, car, boat, skiing, anything.
When I went through AFROTC Field Encampment (ROTC Basic Training-ish) in June '94 they had us do Jet Orientation (JET-O). I did JET-O at Laughlin AFB in Del Rio, TX, in a T-37 Tweet. It was 115 in the shade that day on the flight line. By the time we took off I had sweat through my BDUs completely, and the parachute was already wet. We left the canopy up until we were at the hold-short, then took off quick. 500 ft off the ground, the IP shakes the stick and says "copilot has the stick"... We did loops, clovers, barrels, ran down the border, getting shadowed by Mexican F-16s. Most fun I've had in my life. Not a bit of air/motion sickness (never have) but when we dropped back down and slowed to get into the pattern the heat came back so fast that I couldn't take it. I didn't puke, but I almost passed out, had to gang-load and it was amazing how quickly that helped me feel better. What a great experience, that IP was a great dude. Too bad they don't do that anymore.
@KellySmith-kw2cl was your Field Training at Dyess? I had my Jet-O at Laughlin in 78. I drew the T-38 and had a similar experience on my flight. Didn’t get sick but I was soaked when it was over.
@@hammer3921 No, I was at Lackland, in San Antonio.
Funnily enough, they actually brought it back! At this last field training they offered A-27 and TH-1 incentive flights. It was super cool
Holy crap this looks familiar. Flew on a cold day so takeoff and max climb performance was outstanding even with two bags. I made it about 45 minutes before letting go of what little food and nasty Gatorade I had consumed before. I did go 100% O2 after about 15 minutes which may have bought me some time. I went in the lounge afterward and just laid there while the Wing Commander and Deputies complemented my endurance. Amazing ride!
My experience
1992 Incentive ride in an F-15E over North Carolina. Too long ago to be able to say how the jet was configured.
It was a 2 ship with another Incentive rider in the other backseat. The plan was to have a "mock" dogfight with the other jet, but the other back seater got too sick.
So, my Pilot had the second jet hang out nearby, and we did what he called "Cloud chasing". It jsut so happened to be a nice sunny day with the high "puffy" clouds around.
We dove down between gaps, in between laterally weaving through the gaps and climbing up in between the gaps in the clouds.
At one point I was allowed to roll & loop the jet as well.
Suprisingly I did not get sick during the 1.5 ride, got really darn close a few times though.
The best experience in my life, that is for sure.
Shady J! That’s awesome. I grew up up on SJAFB. I would have been a senior in HS at Eastern Wayne in ‘92.
My brother was a private pilot with many hours of experience. I used to fly with him and enjoyed when he practiced various types of Stalls and other Emergency procedures. And never got sick at all.
I knew someone who had to eject from an f16 on an incentive flight when they lost the engine. Happened at Cannon AFB back in 1999. The pilot was our 27th OSS squadron commander. Airman on the incentive flight broke his ankle but everyone was ok otherwise.
like to see how Ms America handles a COTS takeoff on a C-2........lol.
That spiced things up !
It would be terrifying at the time but that has to be the coolest incentive flight story.
Worth it.
Dude. That dude was so lucky (getting the flight), ejecting and breaking ankle (unlucky) but got to experience something only a few get to (lucky).
2 lucky versus 1 unlucky. That's a win.
In the intro you tagged Wombat with the possible cancellation notice. In the meantime Gonky is planning a much more insidious attack: "I'd like to get a ride!" 🤣🤣🤣
My late father was a career Air Force officer and flew F-4 in Vietnam (210 missions). Dad said that his back seater would throw up a bit from time to time.
Even if you don't get sick often, there is a difference in "preparing" for what the jet was going to do over "reacting" to what the jet was doing. Unfortunately the back seater is often in the "reacting" stage and the tummy will get the best of em on occasion.
Mae West came from 1928. She was an actress around that time.
Oh I got a heart from C.W.!!
Anyone can be Mae West now. Any One. Total Cost: $5,000
Mae West had an ample bosom… contemporary beauties tend to be thin & have less “figure”.
15:42 love the ‘arm in the window’ vibe here;)
Looks like Wombat was having a hard time keeping a straight face! 😆
Fr 😂😂😂
Funny show again gentlemen. I had a near miss with his kind of flight in the mid 1980's . Bear in mind I live and work in the UK. A colleague who worked for Microsoft UK was in the US at McDill AFB doing some work with the USAF - He called me up and said how quickly can you get over here as I have the chance for us both to get rides in F-16B's (he knew I was a big aircraft nut) - I couldn't get off work for 3 days - he had a wonderful flight!
Man, I love this channel. I found it with the Maverick reaction videos, which are absolutely hilarious. I love learning about the life and work of a fighter pilot, and I love the jokes as well. It's a great channel, and I am glad I subscribed. Thank you for your service, Mover, Gonky, and Wombat.
I found the channel the same way. Loved it since.
Same here. I liked learning what’s different in real life than the movie. I think that was almost a year ago we’re I first watched them. Time really flies.
Thank god Wombats there for his excellent commentary..............
Wombat doesn't need words to be awesome!
As a former A-6 Intruder plane captain in the U S Navy I remember a few new BNs coming back with a used barf bag in hand after their flight !
Thats why they went NFO!
We called our PLF the feet-ass-head. He's not lying about getting your straps situated right. At airborne school I got a strap-testicle malfunction in the swing landing trainer. Met in agony as I hung there and my blackhat not giving a shit. ROFL!
These guys are funny. Wombat is me at work pointing out the humor of the absurdity in the current events, while Mover is my exasperated coworker trying to be serious to not get the meeting derailed, and Gonky was my coworker trying prevent HR to visit me and keeping the peace. LOL. I can relate to Wombat's sense of humor.
Thanks for breaking down this fam flight! Really enjoyed the commentary
I worked as a DoD employee and a military contractor for 7 years, never had the chance to ride in an aircraft I maintained, F-106B, RA-5C, A7D or A4L, etc.. But as a crew chief on commercial Sikorsky helicopters, I have over 2000 hours. We had one pilot who loved to do hammerhead stalls, the mechanic(me) sitting at the open cargo door looking down. Never got sick. Miss America fam flight is a great recruiting PR stunt for now. Will she go to flight school after Harvard, we will see.
If I ever had the chance to choose between an incentive or a FAM flight I'm sure I'd choose the FAM. Not only you do get the ride but you get to see the mission as it is!
Don't get me wrong, I'd sell my mother and yours for a chance to sit in a Viper, let alone fly in one... but doing something with it gotta be next level cool.
I've got acro hours under my belt (mainly gliders and some Su-29) and I'm sure a Viper would blow my brains out.
I might even be puking my guts out and begging for more with a grin large enogh to split my head.
Great work, the three of you.
The problem is she segregated herself in the military. Any military member that glorifies themself in the spotlight immediately separates them from the rest. Back to basic training, everyone is broken down to the point where literally everyone is on the same level. That's not the same when someone has a spotlight of media on them. Everyone in a platoon is gonna look at that person with the preferential treatment like, "What makes him/her so godd*mned special"? The more I watch you guys talk about her (Miss America), the more I see that basic training mentality I'm talking about, all while trying to be diplomatic about it like officers do. I believe what she's doing is a publicity stunt. With recruiting numbers so low, I think this is more of a recruitment tool than anything. "HEY, join the Air Force, join the Navy, join the Marines, look who you will be fighting alongside with." Or, "Look BOYS, there's a literal angel in the skies watching over you."
Don't get me wrong, her story, which sounds somewhat legit, is great and full of fluff, but I doubt she would be accepted into any squadron because of the media attention. And by accepted I mean by peers, because if they were peers then either all of them (in a squadron or platoon or whatever) would get the same attention or none at all.
What I'm trying to say is, if we're all E-5's, we're all E-5's. If we're all O-1's, we're all O-1's, not O-1+Miss America. We're either all equal within or respective ranks/jobs, or were not.
Thanks Wombat, I was thinking exactly the same thing. The inner ear can really mess your life up.
Hey Mover. I'm now the proud owner of a Wiley X Aries G312LA (in Foliage Green). I saw them being worn in several air combat movies but I never knew the name of the brand until you you were "Ruining Top Gun Maverick" and you said "...hey, Wiley X". So, thanks!
I'm not like you guys and I only fly General Aviation but still, it's perfect to dial nobs, flick switches and press buttons.
She has a degree from the Air Force Academy and she is now getting her masters. She is a very smart lady. She has a pilot slot for her when she is done with her masters. She is already a civilian pilot and the Miss America thing is just good PR for the Air Force. I am sure the guys in the pilot fitting room were very happy to work with her. She won the Miss America contest so now she has to do all the PR for that for a year. She has a bright future. I wonder if she will take that pilot slot in a year or two?
Wombat keeping the guys honest, I like it. If I saw this video and didn't know who she was, I'd think she was any other person.
14:15 the back of the seat is angled so far away from her head , she went to rest her head back and realized it was so far reclined. You can see it again at 9:53 how far away her head is
Air Force takes care of their planes. My unit took F-16s from other squadrons in '82 and won Gunsmoke in '87. Same planes in Desert Storm had a 92% FMC rate.
Mae West also works as rhyming slang for vest, so it's perfect on multiple levels.
I was an F-16 crew chief at Edwards for an enlistment and never got a ride. Early 2000s. They just didn’t do incentive flights at Edwards then, even though we had plenty of B and D models. Right before I got out, they started giving some people rides. At the 416th FLTS, only our expediter got a ride (for the first time in his career). A 2nd Lt that that worked at the Flight Test Center that was in the honor guard with me got a ride. I was a little mad. Me as super airman doing all the things you’re supposed to be a shit hot airman, got nothing. I wanted to be a pilot and A LOT of the other crew chief hated pilots. They made it feel like I was betraying them by wanting to do that. Never would let me drop my commission program package, even though it was a sure thing if I submitted it. But hey, I did get a combat descent and takeoff on a C-130 into and out of Iraq that was pretty intense! Attacks on the base had picked up when we left, and they had been trying to target aircraft taking off and landing (luckily they were pretty shitty at targeting, and no one got hit while I was there). I did feel the most concerned the entire time one that flight out like that would be the time it happens-spent months there, survived everything and that’s when it would happen on the way home. At least later on in the Guard I’ve gotten a couple hundred hours in a 135 and seen some cool stuff. Got to experience some negative Gs and such when I was on board documenting some other mission stuff before they did some adversarial treat contact. Impressive what a 135 can do compared to an airliners. Having an MEP letter is the only way to fly😎
@AdamKeele, when was your 130 ride in Iraq? I was in the FE seat for hundreds of those from 2003 to 2008.
1975: I puked in my ROTC summer camp T-38 fam ride at Randolph AFB. They didn’t give me a barf bag so my pilot told me to use my glove.
I mean… not a bad idea, you will just walk out the jet Micheal Jackson style with one glove🤣
IROK (year 2000 version)
Inflate LPU (flotation device)
Raft (deploy / inflate)
Options: Visor: up or down
Mask: off
Gloves: off
Koch (fittings) find / locate with hands, fingers ready to release parachute upon water entry or after surviving PLF upon ground contact.
Inspect (chute) and inflate
@@av8rgrip Copy that, Good catch. Inspect canopy to ensure condition, help deciding to use the 4 line release to steering mod. I knew my 68 year old brain had forgotten a step. East or West Harriers? Did a tour at Aviation Physiology (Survival) Training at MCAS Cherry Point.
I’m not far behind you. This was just some of the now useless data still stored in my brain along with T-34 impending engine failure procedures and A-4 OCF procedures.
This one was really, really funny. You guys are hilarious.
No F-16 flight but within 3 weeks, first had an O-2 FAC flight and an F-4 flight, what a treat! I did get sick on the O-2 flight ( Cpt..Kent was trying to get me...), but I know I only got a bit queasy on my F-4 flight, even on AB climb-out!! I loved both flights for the incredible experiences back in my AAC(aka Alaskan Air Circus) days!!
0:55 - "Snuffy isn't here... I'll just sign for him."
You know, going to the Academy, then Harvard for public policy, then winning Miss America... that's legit an impressive run.
This would be so incredibly fun to get to do. Having played more hours of flight simulators and combat sims than I could ever count, it would be fun to feel the real thing.
Love the blue Dimond mug retired from there 2021 flew off the the TR to get home.
I remember my Incentive ride back in the 90's. F-15 though. Didn't toss my cookies at all. My pilot tried to make me ill. I told him I don't get motion sickness, yet he still tired. :) I did have a nice grey out though. I wasn't ready for 8 G's. I'd done lots of 4 and 5 G wing-overs on my Paraglider, but that's nothing compared to a sustained 8.
as a former F-15 maintainer we just love it when we don't get rides but someone like her can get one because she's pretty
She's also a kick ass member of the USAF and a grad from the academy.
But yes, it is BS because they fly jets every day and many have a backseat. It's nothing to make sure everyone in the service who works directly with the jets gets a ride. Maybe not in years 1-4 but for re-enlistment bonus or something.
Do a reaction video of Martin Garrix riding along in an F-16
Nothing better than getting a 15 ride and giggling/laughing your ass off as the world view rapidly dwindles to a pinprick of light and then getting to do it again and again :)
They may have updated the helmet fitting procedure for smaller/lighter folks after the research into the heavy F-35 helmets and skinnier necks during ejection. Easier to do it with everyone regardless of the actual helmet weight as a new standard procedure.
I still remember how to steer a parachute using toggles from the MC-1 parachute and do a dynamic PLF from going through the US Army Airborne School because I enlisted to be an Airborne Infantryman in the Army. I always say "Air Force and Navy pilots always land, Paratroopers always crash to land.". She is an OUTSTANDING woman in my opinion!!! Oh doing a PLF is what we call "Feet, Ass, and Head".
Great episode, really enjoyed! Fitted helmets? Not in the 60's - 80's. You got issued and told to like it. G-suit and torso harness same. Flight boots at least were shoe size....Still have my flight helmet from VA-212 circa '73. Rubber and plastic a little decayed, but the colorful logos are still OK. Minor dings from walking into a/c wings on the flight deck, tho. LOL Pete
You might want to check out Urszula Brzezińska-Hołownia, quite similar to the lady from the video, who is a wife of the Polish parliament speaker Szymon Hołownia, and a lieutentant in the Polish Air Force. She flies Polish NATO-ized MiG-29. There was a famous meme right after the recent elections in Poland with a picture showing her inside her MiG in full combat outfit, signed: "They said they'd end the nepotism, but look, just a few days after the elections the parliament speaker's wife flies around for free in a state-funded aircraft!"
For my first incentive ride I was told to have "weak tea and dry toast" for breakfast, no puking. On my second it was "have a banana, because they taste the same coming up as they do going down". Words of wisdom.
Now I have to ask…. What did you bestow to the government that was grand to qualify for 2 incentive flights?
@@donttouchthis56 First was a Tweet (T-37) ride for Airman of the Quarter, second was a T-38 for making Below-the-Zone promotion to E-4 (Senior Airman).
I once got an incentive flight on a UH-1. I was a Comm guy and did a favor for the Helicopter Flight CC.
But not THAT kind of favor
Long ago, and far away (1986) they used to pour your helmet for a custom fit. That involved molten foam poured into a mold that was clamped to your skull. It was like your head was being crushed by lava.
Mover the Moderator looks on edge.😂😂
Hey guys thanks for sharing your thougts on this it was good. I’m French and I would love to hear what you tkink about the French Navy. There is a YT channel called " chasse embarqué". It’s active French navy fighter pilot sharing their OP on board of the carrier. That will give you some contents to review. Keep up the good mood !
Fun fact - She was supposed to drive the pace car for the NASCAR race at Dover back in May - but it was a stick shift and she told me she can't drive a stick. And, sidebar, country music star Luke Combs was supposed to drive the pace car at Nashville this past weekend, but like Miss America, he can't drive a stick.
Oof. I’ll drive it!
Naves Jamali’s interview of her for Unconventional is up. Mostly she in the Newsweek office in Manhattan in her sash and tiara. About three minutes longer than his episode on the Mover/Gonky fini flight.
Something my 20 year military experience taught me is that your job demands 100% focus and dedication, if not you endanger yourself or your teammates. Hopefully this story doesn’t end the same way Maybelline’s did.
With all the distractions she must be facing, I gotta believe UPT is gonna be a special challenge for this lady. Hopefully she can concentrate on the task at hand and that there aren't any internal/external pressures to "get her through". We don't need another Kara Hultgreen - especially one this visible and endeared by the public. I truly wish her the very best.
@mikefinch4878 She’s in grad school working on a degree that puts her on a totally different career path. I doubt she’ll ever go to UPT.
Wow! I was totally amazed that you said every “incentive” flight you did you would pull nine Gs with the ride along. So what percentage of people just passed out? Wouldn’t the vast majority of average non-pilot people pass out every time at nine Gs? Love the show!!!
I can't pick... both the F-16 and the F-18 are gorgeous planes. Hard to believe sometimes how old the F-16 is. Kind of surprised how much they had loaded on it. Were they expecting to have to fight their way back to base?
Y’all are great! Love this channel. But you forgot to say at the end. “Do some of that pilot shit.”
22:20 Gonky: "I'd like to get a ride." Mover: "In the jet the get you mean." Gonky: 😅 Wombat: 😑 Me: 😂😂😂
You're pilots! You poke fun at everything!
Smart beautiful lady. Hope she goes far in her career of choice.
IROK
Inspect
Inflate (LPU)
Release (Raft)
Options (gloves and visor)
Koch (fittings release when feet hit water)
Beats another boring day in the office... Q: How did Wombat get his call sign? Here in Aussie, 'Wombat' is used to describe someone who gets around a bit, e.g. "eats, roots, shoots and leaves"... 🤣🤣
Great content boys 👍🏼
Im just impressed that Miss America is an actual woman this day & age.
Pops flew F-4Js in Hawai'i out of Kaneohe (USMC) in the 80s. Giving a "friendly" hop to ROTC or Midshipmen was always, "how much until they puke" 😂 then go easy
She is not going to be a pilot, she has a total other path now she is Miss America, my opinion, she is going to work for media, or other high profile jobs. Don't forget being a Miss, is a lot going on. Or being a diplomatic, not this, what is she thinking?
I’ve been hopping into planes wrong my whole life 9:20 😂
I've always heard you want to eat peanut butter before one of these incentive rides. The lore is it tastes the same going down as it does coming up.
Oooof let me get some popcorn and jr mints …. this one is going to be good!
Best line ever. "We're doing this mission, Just so happened we had an empty seat."
She’s super obviously on track to become a NASA astronaut
Have either of you guys ever done the low level flight path over 36.618468, -117.992860 or 36.613189, -118.007344? If so, what do pilots call the area? I go out almost everyday to watch planes fly. I have seen C-17's, a F-117, several F-22's, F-35's, F-16's, and mostly F-18's, even a test 747 for GE. Just so you know, there are many fan boys watching flights and we just can't get enough.
Loved the F-5 in the intro ^^
Naveed Jamali apparently has interviewed her and it looks like the next episode of Unconventional will be on her.
Those mountains look like Colorado Springs. Probably AF Academy or Peterson. Can't say im 100% sure. But miss Nevada would more likely fly out of Nellis.
“I’d like a ride” I’m dead
Did she bring her Walkman?
Chappy would be proud.
Any chance we could get the guy from the growler jams youtube channel on the show?
We got ourselves the Captain Carter of SG1
She is a USAFA graduate if I understand correctly. They're going crazy at the Academy right now because they graduated a celebrity. :)
22:45 And there you have it. She's not Miss America on that fam ride---she's 2LT Marsh. And friendly ribbing from senior pilots down to the newbies is one of the most time-honored traditions in the military aviation community.
That said...I do wonder how the USAF is going to manage the split in duties between flight school/other advanced officer training, and Miss America. MA is mainly ceremonial stuff, but there are opportunities for motivational speaking, etc. The Air Force is going to require her to really buckle down if she's going to compete for a pilot slot.
She already has a pilot slot when she graduated from the AFA. She is currently in a grad school working on a Masters degree totally unrelated to a pilot career path. I highly doubt she will ever go to UPT.
she got her pilot's license in her early teens - got into USAFA [acceptance rate of 10%] - graduated with a technical degree - got a pilot slot - got into Harvard for postgrad - proby would excel at a fighter pilot had she chosen to - dudes be jealous - how many of those boxes do you check?
Who are you talking to?
Wombat's face says it all!!!
I said it last time and I’m gonna say it again Mr #WOMBAT deserves this title.