I had Dr. Guy-Sheftall as a professor at Spelman. She really challenged my thinking of the role of women in relationships within the household. I can honestly say, that our class discussions have really shaped my views and allowed me to appreciate my marriage, my role as mother, and made me more cognizant of my interactions in life. More importantly, it has tremendously opened the dialogue on the roles of women in the world, now that we have two little girls.
Jamie Owns Bell Hooks is a woman who talks about the problems of both men and women, things that feminism have neglected etc. She says that the mistake feminism has made is failing to understand the negative impact patriarchal standards have on men too. This seems to me not only rational but very important. Yet I see a lot of people (men in particular) flying off the handle saying that patriarchy is completely made up because men have problems too...which if anything THAT is what is fucking insane. lol. I agree some feminists are nut jobs, and I don't always agree with everything other feminists say but maybe understand what Bell is talking about then make a judgement
Its not all about the law though, its about structure and roles people play. You can change the law that doesn't mean patriarchal sexist ideas don't exist anymore, they do, and they effect both men and women. There are laws in place to punish people for discriminating, that doesn't mean people don't still do it, and that you don't still see reflections of it in our culture
Jamie Owns well I guess people equate having a mens day with the idea of something like a 'white history month'. Depends on the purpose of 'mens day' ...if its a day to pay attention to male accomplishment, then maybe I would laugh at that because male accomplishment is often acknowledged anyway. However I do think more attention needs to be paid to mens issues. I think people have a limited view of what success means and therefore think men have everything...thats another thing bell talks about ;)
Jamie Owns Well this is the thing, do you not think sexism is extremely harmful?? Whether against men or women? Laws and practical advantages are all well and good, but thats not necessarily the be all and end all. Just because women have been taken care of in certain ways doesn't mean theres nothing else to talk about. What about the way we view each other? Look at sexual abuse. What about how many women are raped and abused? On the flipside how about the fact that its so hard for men to speak out if THEY have been victims of sexual abuse...why is that??
I, too, don't want to see another movie where a black woman or man is brutalized. I wish they would just stop. I appreciate the statement "stay home". It's my haven, bell hooks.
45:49 BGS: Rarely meet young people addicted to books as we were. hooks: I have a solitary life. Solitude and the ability to be alone with myself. Students aren't interested. They are lying in bed with social media.
ROLAND MARTIN UNFILTERED HAD A BLACK COMEDIAN ACTIVIST ON TWO DAYS AGO WHO WHILE IN PRISON HE FOUND A NEW HIM THAT TRANSFORMED PRISON CONSCIOUSNESS OF PRISONERS BECAUSE ON THE STREETS HE HUSTLED BUT IN PRISON HE HAD BEEN SAT DOWN WITH TIME TO THINK WHILE BEING SCHOOLED BY OLDER INMATES IF REPUBLICANS GET THEIR WAY LIFE WILL BECOME A SURVIVAL AND HUSTLING TURMOIL
Okay, but what was that older white man's problem? It's so disrespectful and entitled of him to throw a book at bell hooks. I'm glad that she ignored his demand. Disgusting.
+Dennis Deem It is a discussion of a bell hooks stream of consciousness because it is led by bell hooks. I understand what you're seeing but it is hard divert the discussion except from the perspective of bell hooks, when she's leading the discussion. And none the less, she and Dr. Beverly Guy-Sheftall are marvelous. But, no it is not just you.
What about a radical feminist scholar at the Bartlett School of Architecture telling her female PhD student to shut up. True story. Why haven't we spent more time thinking about how women have learned to abuse other women in retribution for their own abuse. Abuse is not gendered. Overall, professional men have treated me in a much fairer ways in both academics and the office.
+Mancheeze is it to say that by simply being "masculine" that you MUST dominate others? Both men and women have masculine and feminine sides, it's not about doing away with masculinity or emasculating men, it's about being a good person and not brutalizing each other (plus, a lot of women through their hard work are ALSO in halls of power in just about ever institution, ESPECIALLY white middle-class females). Women aren't the only ones that must unite against oppression, WE ALL must untie against oppression.
I like your comment. I would add, I think it's more about patriarchy as a system of domination, than it is about "masculine" men or women as such. I would like to think there is such a thing as "healthy masculinity" - which is decolonized patriarchy. What do you think?
I am not sure what you are entirely on about Manuel. Here in the realm of this discussion we are not just talking about brown as a random color, but a color that is synonymous with ugliness and being deficient or "less than" in some way. I hope for a world where a little children of any ethnic background can look at each other objectively and see beauty reflected in the differences of color and ethnicity and have that reinforced by a diverse and truly tolerant and multicultural society that is not a homogenized, "color blind" society, but one that begins to embrace difference and organically build tolerance between people. It is a devastating bi- product of white supremacy, that the color spectrum has been racialized. And I am not advocating here a homogenized vision of a color blind society, but a society in which all colors are noticed and valued for their unique qualities . And for women that have an open disgust for and/or feel threatened, or sensitive to male domination of any sot it is a contextual reflexive response to an historicized inequality,misogyny, that is institutionalized that continues to get propagated in an age of liberal individualism masquerading as equality and shallow pluralism- thankfully we have the work of feminists of all genders working to eradicate this hateful practice in concrete ways. And I would just like to reiterate that there are many men that feel this way too, and feel the constraints of patriarchy and other practices of domination on and in their lives on their journey to becoming more loving and self actualized. Words without action are empty and undermine and devalue their meaning. Feminism is not just an ideology it is a political form of resistance to institutionalized patriarchy(supported, aided and abetted by the white supremacist capitalist hegemony) and requires action and agency not just on the part of women but anyone that has claimed that title for themselves otherwise it just becomes diluted in the marketplace of ideas and loses its power- not because it is not relevant but because it is hollow, specious and lacks the revolutionary spirit in which we can re-imagine relations between the sexes, and races and re-imagine what the words feminine and masculine are prescriptive of... And the appeal of a black character Doc McStuffins as cool- just not her skin color is preposterous, "cool" is not synonymous with white supremacism- and never should be. And the premium of "cool" is very overrated and overvalued in Western culture. bell hooks you are an inspiration and your books make me feel a little less alone in this world. Thanks! Also I believe that by defining racism and sexism she gives us the very tools to bust through its hold on your consciousness she breaks out of the box and hides every lock (yes I paraphrased kendrick's lyric):) Phew! Peace and love to everyone- One.
+Storm Bey He/She didn't know that bell hooks (sic) is a pen name and she chooses to use all lower case letters. They weren't complaining, they asked a genuine question. Why not just give a simple reply rather than an arrogant snide?
+Storm Bey I'm sorry for not researching. I was ignorantly just relying on hundreds of years of language precedence. My bad for not bowing to one person's preference of not following the norm. I sincerely apologize for offending you.
Is coming home late abusive or is it the freedom to come home, whenever you want? Who has the right to define, what is TOO late. This ladies have never been in Africa where they would find the most dominant and rassist men on earth.
1:10 Hooks saying to the young women struggling to ask her question, 'you've gone on a little too long.' when it is she who kept interrupting. Feminists are not able to act in a way that is consistent with what they ask from men. Let's ask feminists what they claim to achieve through their own sense of superiority towards other women.
applied communism as a group of failed states is limiting statement about the multiple systems, cultures and ideological frameworks which each of them operated/s under...
american democratic republic works so well, too. right to citizenship is based on ability to accumulate wealth and assimilate towards mythical hetero patriarchal whiteness
there are other intersectional factors that manipulate how rights operate. like being rich, or not. like being a permanent resident former refugee, or not. wtf is the news.
I had Dr. Guy-Sheftall as a professor at Spelman. She really challenged my thinking of the role of women in relationships within the household. I can honestly say, that our class discussions have really shaped my views and allowed me to appreciate my marriage, my role as mother, and made me more cognizant of my interactions in life. More importantly, it has tremendously opened the dialogue on the roles of women in the world, now that we have two little girls.
51:40 hooks wrote her first book when she was 19 as an undergrad not as an assignment.
Bell Hooks is a legend. 😌
+Jamie Owns 'rofl' ..she's only not a legend n YOUR head..rofl rofl rofl
Jamie Owns Bell Hooks is a woman who talks about the problems of both men and women, things that feminism have neglected etc. She says that the mistake feminism has made is failing to understand the negative impact patriarchal standards have on men too. This seems to me not only rational but very important. Yet I see a lot of people (men in particular) flying off the handle saying that patriarchy is completely made up because men have problems too...which if anything THAT is what is fucking insane. lol. I agree some feminists are nut jobs, and I don't always agree with everything other feminists say but maybe understand what Bell is talking about then make a judgement
Its not all about the law though, its about structure and roles people play. You can change the law that doesn't mean patriarchal sexist ideas don't exist anymore, they do, and they effect both men and women. There are laws in place to punish people for discriminating, that doesn't mean people don't still do it, and that you don't still see reflections of it in our culture
Jamie Owns well I guess people equate having a mens day with the idea of something like a 'white history month'. Depends on the purpose of 'mens day' ...if its a day to pay attention to male accomplishment, then maybe I would laugh at that because male accomplishment is often acknowledged anyway. However I do think more attention needs to be paid to mens issues. I think people have a limited view of what success means and therefore think men have everything...thats another thing bell talks about ;)
Jamie Owns Well this is the thing, do you not think sexism is extremely harmful?? Whether against men or women? Laws and practical advantages are all well and good, but thats not necessarily the be all and end all. Just because women have been taken care of in certain ways doesn't mean theres nothing else to talk about. What about the way we view each other? Look at sexual abuse. What about how many women are raped and abused? On the flipside how about the fact that its so hard for men to speak out if THEY have been victims of sexual abuse...why is that??
I, too, don't want to see another movie where a black woman or man is brutalized. I wish they would just stop.
I appreciate the statement "stay home". It's my haven, bell hooks.
45:49 BGS: Rarely meet young people addicted to books as we were. hooks: I have a solitary life. Solitude and the ability to be alone with myself. Students aren't interested. They are lying in bed with social media.
ROLAND MARTIN UNFILTERED HAD A BLACK COMEDIAN ACTIVIST ON TWO DAYS AGO WHO WHILE IN PRISON HE FOUND A NEW HIM THAT TRANSFORMED PRISON CONSCIOUSNESS OF PRISONERS BECAUSE ON THE STREETS HE HUSTLED BUT IN PRISON HE HAD BEEN SAT DOWN WITH TIME TO THINK WHILE BEING SCHOOLED BY OLDER INMATES IF REPUBLICANS GET THEIR WAY LIFE WILL BECOME A SURVIVAL AND HUSTLING TURMOIL
31:59 - 32:39 Critical exchange about freedom
I love their brutal honestly.
this was just an amazing conversation as always with Bell Hooks and her guest!
Okay, but what was that older white man's problem? It's so disrespectful and entitled of him to throw a book at bell hooks. I'm glad that she ignored his demand. Disgusting.
I'll watch all your youtube videos and I am reading all your books. Logic and honesty personified.
I love bell hooks I enjoy and voraciously read all her books.
great discussion! thank you, new school, for these uploads.
is it me or is this more of a stream of consciousness bell hooks lecture than a discussion?
+Dennis Deem It is a discussion of a bell hooks stream of consciousness because it is led by bell hooks. I understand what you're seeing but it is hard divert the discussion except from the perspective of bell hooks, when she's leading the discussion. And none the less, she and Dr. Beverly Guy-Sheftall are marvelous. But, no it is not just you.
I am so glad I found the discussion.
What about a radical feminist scholar at the Bartlett School of Architecture telling her female PhD student to shut up. True story. Why haven't we spent more time thinking about how women have learned to abuse other women in retribution for their own abuse. Abuse is not gendered. Overall, professional men have treated me in a much fairer ways in both academics and the office.
+Mancheeze is it to say that by simply being "masculine" that you MUST dominate others? Both men and women have masculine and feminine sides, it's not about doing away with masculinity or emasculating men, it's about being a good person and not brutalizing each other (plus, a lot of women through their hard work are ALSO in halls of power in just about ever institution, ESPECIALLY white middle-class females).
Women aren't the only ones that must unite against oppression, WE ALL must untie against oppression.
I like your comment. I would add, I think it's more about patriarchy as a system of domination, than it is about "masculine" men or women as such. I would like to think there is such a thing as "healthy masculinity" - which is decolonized patriarchy. What do you think?
56:00 there isn't a lot of money in writing dissident speech
I would like to share this conversation with my social media, but would like to share with Closed Captioning. If possible, please add it.
"If a woman was careless enough to find herself with an unwanted pregnancy?" 31:12 As true as that statement may be, that's harsh. Whew!
love this.
omg the white dude at the end :|
Such an important discussion. Thank you!
what do you mean?
Awesome!! really enjoyed the discussion :D
very insightful and moving
I am not sure what you are entirely on about Manuel. Here in the realm of this discussion we are not just talking about brown as a random color, but a color that is synonymous with ugliness and being deficient or "less than" in some way. I hope for a world where a little children of any ethnic background can look at each other objectively and see beauty reflected in the differences of color and ethnicity and have that reinforced by a diverse and truly tolerant and multicultural society that is not a homogenized, "color blind" society, but one that begins to embrace difference and organically build tolerance between people. It is a devastating bi- product of white supremacy, that the color spectrum has been racialized. And I am not advocating here a homogenized vision of a color blind society, but a society in which all colors are noticed and valued for their unique qualities
.
And for women that have an open disgust for and/or feel threatened, or sensitive to male domination of any sot it is a contextual reflexive response to an historicized inequality,misogyny, that is institutionalized that continues to get propagated in an age of liberal individualism masquerading as equality and shallow pluralism- thankfully we have the work of feminists of all genders working to eradicate this hateful practice in concrete ways. And I would just like to reiterate that there are many men that feel this way too, and feel the constraints of patriarchy and other practices of domination on and in their lives on their journey to becoming more loving and self actualized.
Words without action are empty and undermine and devalue their meaning. Feminism is not just an ideology it is a political form of resistance to institutionalized patriarchy(supported, aided and abetted by the white supremacist capitalist hegemony) and requires action and agency not just on the part of women but anyone that has claimed that title for themselves otherwise it just becomes diluted in the marketplace of ideas and loses its power- not because it is not relevant but because it is hollow, specious and lacks the revolutionary spirit in which we can re-imagine relations between the sexes, and races and re-imagine what the words feminine and masculine are prescriptive of... And the appeal of a black character Doc McStuffins as cool- just not her skin color is preposterous, "cool" is not synonymous with white supremacism- and never should be. And the premium of "cool" is very overrated and overvalued in Western culture. bell hooks you are an inspiration and your books make me feel a little less alone in this world. Thanks! Also I believe that by defining racism and sexism she gives us the very tools to bust through its hold on your consciousness she breaks out of the box and hides every lock (yes I paraphrased kendrick's lyric):) Phew! Peace and love to everyone- One.
amazing talk!
YAAAS BELL!!1
She does not capitalize her name. e. e. cummings.
I KNOW!!!!!11
1:01:00 Critique of Mom-in-chief representations of Michelle Obama
EXCELLENT!!!! 😄
Why not capitalize her name?
Internalised misogyny! OFC.
+dozer1642 Are you serious lol you not know who bell hooks is? She purposely chooses to lowercase her name. Do your research before complaining!
+Storm Bey
He/She didn't know that bell hooks (sic) is a pen name and she chooses to use all lower case letters. They weren't complaining, they asked a genuine question. Why not just give a simple reply rather than an
arrogant snide?
+Storm Bey I'm sorry for not researching. I was ignorantly just relying on hundreds of years of language precedence. My bad for not bowing to one person's preference of not following the norm. I sincerely apologize for offending you.
Storm Bey Triggered?
Is coming home late abusive or is it the freedom to come home, whenever you want? Who has the right to define, what is TOO late. This ladies have never been in Africa where they would find the most dominant and rassist men on earth.
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1:10 Hooks saying to the young women struggling to ask her question, 'you've gone on a little too long.' when it is she who kept interrupting. Feminists are not able to act in a way that is consistent with what they ask from men. Let's ask feminists what they claim to achieve through their own sense of superiority towards other women.
How does bell hooks telling a student not to go on too long have ANYTHING to do with feminism? Hahahahahahahahahaha!
In regard to 31:30 pro - abortion does not equal feminism.
Bell hooks said you can't be feminist and be against choice and women's freedom to control their own bodies in another video on here
Isn't she a communist? what does she think about all the failed communist states? Did she ever visit any of them? And if not, why?
applied communism as a group of failed states is limiting statement about the multiple systems, cultures and ideological frameworks which each of them operated/s under...
american democratic republic works so well, too. right to citizenship is based on ability to accumulate wealth and assimilate towards mythical hetero patriarchal whiteness
there are other intersectional factors that manipulate how rights operate. like being rich, or not. like being a permanent resident former refugee, or not. wtf is the news.
She's not communist enough, if you ask me, but she is certainly a Marxist-Feminist, as much as she doesn't stick to any one philosophy, I think.
She's also insanely religious. Basically a nutjob.
I like learning. But I cannot stomach stupid as huge as displayed in this video.
Bell Crooks.
stop
***** Exactly. The charlatan should just quit.
how are these people not classified as a hate group? or a religion?
+Dumb Philosopher ...because only a small group of people are familiar with youtube anti-feminist rhetoric.
What did she say that was hateful?
A radical feminist AND a religious bigot??? I think I will pass....