i remember absolutely LOVING the entire beginning of the piece---in fact, this whole thing really shows just how underrated Liszt was as an orchestral composer
This piece alone should put to rest the accusation that Liszt is a second-rate composer. Brilliantly orchestrated, exciting and top-notch as programmatic music. A masterpiece.
00:00 La cavalcata disperata 01:05 Tema di Mazeppa (tragico) 03:35 Tema di Mazeppa (sofferente) 08:03 La caduta da cavallo e l'episodio dello stupore 10:26 I soldati trovano Mazeppa 15:35 Mazeppa in trionfo
This is stupendous, and even better than the piano version IMO. I don't really understand why people think that Liszt wasn't a good orchestrator! Maybe because his orchestral compositions aren't famous?
I agree, but I don't think this is the best example of his orchestral music. IMO Hamlet is his best symphonic poem, it's masterfully orchestrated and really compactly built, and doesn't suffer from being bombastic like Mazeppa does a bit
Scriabin is my dog: Who told you that Liszt wasn't a good orchestrator? His orchestrations are considered as prime examples of clean, effective with novel effects. Liszt had a tremendous influence on Wagner and many others. The acc. figures in the strings in Mazeppa are astoundingly creative and unique.
@@bartjebartmans In a lot of comment sections I saw a lot of people comparing composers with Liszt, saying that he was a master of the piano but he didn't know very much about other instruments etc. I lisztened to the Dante Symphony, and he proved me Liszt ability to work with orchestral ensembles, but most of the people recognize him only as a pianist, not a Composer.
What Liszt is doing here is great - the idea of describing a story with music all the way through as a pure format is groundbreaking and wonderfully written here by the great composer. But there's no doubt that this is only the beginning of a genre that is to be taken to a level scale degrees beyond Liszt's own orchestral capabilities: most notably by Richard Strauss. This is a classic case of invented vs. perfected, both equally historically important, visionary and astonishing in their execution.
Reading this, the following thought comes to mind... filmscores are written to go with the movies. Wouldn't it be great if someone made a short film to go with this piece? This music would work perfectly as the score to film.
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z Indeed! But the movie doesn't even need to exactly match the original poem/story of the music. For example in Mazeppa's case... the first time I heard this music the image that came to mind was this: instead of a guy helplessly strapped to the back of a wild horse like in the original poem, I rather pictured a horse carrying a badly wounded soldier to safety amidst a raging battle (especially at the point where the main theme kicks in at 1:08 )
Hetman Ivan Mazepa (1639-1709) - leader of Cossack Ukraine (1687-1709), His rivalry with Pedro the Great gave him fame in Europe. He was depicted as a hero in numerous works of art. Lord Byron, Victor Hugo and Juliusz Slowacki wrote poems about Mazepa, and Piotr Tchaikovsky and Franz Liszt dedicated musical works to him. However, in the 19th century, their success as the creators of a semi-independent state in the early modern period made them an inspiration for Ukrainian national sentiment.
1:13 Основная тема 2:12 Второе проведение основной темы 3:39 Тема страдающего Мазепы 4:25 Связка 4:50 Второе проведение темы страдающего Мазепы 8:22 Andante 9:11 лирическая тема 10:34 Марш Allegro 12:06 скерцо-марш
0:00 вступление (свист бича) 0:55 1РАЗДЕЛ 1:08 1 проведение темы 1:40 2:10 2 проведение темы 3:03 связка??? 2 РАЗДЕЛ 3:253:39 (тема страдающего Мазепы???) 4:25 связка (секунды) (4:50 второе проведение темы страдающего Мазепы) 3 РАЗДЕЛ (7:15 еще одно проведение основной темы ) 8:20 4 РАЗДЕЛ 10:30 фанфарный призыв 11:10 победный марш 11:4512:02 марш-танец 14:20 15:36 марш+тема Мазепы (кода)
Several musicologists claim that Raff and others did most of Liszt's orchestrating in these symphonic poems. I don't think so. I just believe that Liszt had the ability to cram about 36 hours of work into 24 hours, discounting a few hours for sleep
I basically like this recording, but there is a serious flaw. The trumpets who carry the main theme marked triple forte at 15:06 to 15:38 literally drop out as though there is a technical recording glitz. It leaves a glaring hole in the music and the performance suffers because of it.
Perfection is a nice goal but non-existent in the Universe. Things happen, maybe that's where the perfection lies, in the unpredictable unfathomable machinations of fractals, waves, particles, quarks and UA-cam.
@@ruramikael The strings do not have the melody or the important part in that section. There is no way that the trumpets should fade into the background. BTW, I heard him conduct Mazeppa live with the Philadelphia Orchestra and he did it the same way with subdued trumpets. So it was not a recording engineer's misstep. For the life of me, I don't know why a conductor would do that.
@@rawvision6701 The strings play the begnning of the Arbeiterchor then, The main theme of that work is used in the beginning of the march section of Mazeppa.
I’m not a big orchestra guy but once in a while if I hear one I like I look it up and this one is great my only problem is it gets a little boring in the middle it’s amazing in the beginning and the end
Much better than the piano version indeed. Some parts are absolutely magnificent in orchestration and some parts are quite disappointing. A good work nonetheless.
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Liszt's orchestral works are criminally underrated. They are masterpieces and extremely exciting. He was a genius!
Ouh yes
I know right xD
I completely agree
Most of geniuses and great Masters through history are underestimated. Ignored. Sooner or later gold shines all over the places.
Claro que fue un GENIO!!! Pero por qué subestimado y x quién? Me responderias por favor? Gracias!!!
Liszt sure knows how to use the brass
What about the trumpet tremolos at the end of Festklänge💀
i remember absolutely LOVING the entire beginning of the piece---in fact, this whole thing really shows just how underrated Liszt was as an orchestral composer
This piece alone should put to rest the accusation that Liszt is a second-rate composer. Brilliantly orchestrated, exciting and top-notch as programmatic music. A masterpiece.
00:00 La cavalcata disperata
01:05 Tema di Mazeppa (tragico)
03:35 Tema di Mazeppa (sofferente)
08:03 La caduta da cavallo e l'episodio dello stupore
10:26 I soldati trovano Mazeppa
15:35 Mazeppa in trionfo
The pizz+col legno texture at 5:10 is so unique and cool
This is stupendous, and even better than the piano version IMO.
I don't really understand why people think that Liszt wasn't a good orchestrator! Maybe because his orchestral compositions aren't famous?
Too true
I agree, but I don't think this is the best example of his orchestral music. IMO Hamlet is his best symphonic poem, it's masterfully orchestrated and really compactly built, and doesn't suffer from being bombastic like Mazeppa does a bit
DJ coolhead les preludes probably the best
Scriabin is my dog: Who told you that Liszt wasn't a good orchestrator? His orchestrations are considered as prime examples of clean, effective with novel effects. Liszt had a tremendous influence on Wagner and many others. The acc. figures in the strings in Mazeppa are astoundingly creative and unique.
@@bartjebartmans In a lot of comment sections I saw a lot of people comparing composers with Liszt, saying that he was a master of the piano but he didn't know very much about other instruments etc. I lisztened to the Dante Symphony, and he proved me Liszt ability to work with orchestral ensembles, but most of the people recognize him only as a pianist, not a Composer.
This is one of the Transcendenal Etudes and is very effective on the piano as well.
What Liszt is doing here is great - the idea of describing a story with music all the way through as a pure format is groundbreaking and wonderfully written here by the great composer. But there's no doubt that this is only the beginning of a genre that is to be taken to a level scale degrees beyond Liszt's own orchestral capabilities: most notably by Richard Strauss. This is a classic case of invented vs. perfected, both equally historically important, visionary and astonishing in their execution.
Reading this, the following thought comes to mind... filmscores are written to go with the movies. Wouldn't it be great if someone made a short film to go with this piece? This music would work perfectly as the score to film.
@@BarnieSnyman You're on to something here. someone really should do that. Imagine a short movie to Liszt's prometheus
@@user-fu7zf4ck9z Indeed! But the movie doesn't even need to exactly match the original poem/story of the music. For example in Mazeppa's case... the first time I heard this music the image that came to mind was this: instead of a guy helplessly strapped to the back of a wild horse like in the original poem, I rather pictured a horse carrying a badly wounded soldier to safety amidst a raging battle (especially at the point where the main theme kicks in at 1:08 )
@@BarnieSnyman - I've been wanting this ever since I first heard this piece... all I could find was an old film from like 1930s that used part of it
Hetman Ivan Mazepa (1639-1709) - leader of Cossack Ukraine (1687-1709),
His rivalry with Pedro the Great gave him fame in Europe. He was depicted as a hero in numerous works of art. Lord Byron, Victor Hugo and Juliusz Slowacki wrote poems about
Mazepa, and Piotr Tchaikovsky and Franz Liszt dedicated musical works to him. However, in the 19th century, their success as the creators of a semi-independent state in the early modern period made them an inspiration for Ukrainian national sentiment.
1:13 Основная тема
2:12 Второе проведение основной темы
3:39 Тема страдающего Мазепы
4:25 Связка
4:50 Второе проведение темы страдающего Мазепы
8:22 Andante
9:11 лирическая тема
10:34 Марш Allegro
12:06 скерцо-марш
Ох, боже, спасибо!!!!!!!!!!
очень большое человеческое спасибо!
@@foxhoundduo3210 привет, двгии
Very clever use of the col legno at 3:40.
Liszt saw movies before there were movies !
Hehe, his composition method was very much supported by imagery (be it mental in his case). He really did want to tell stories in his music.
WOW!! I think I've found my new favourite orchestral piece!!!!
0:00 вступление (свист бича)
0:55
1РАЗДЕЛ
1:08 1 проведение темы
1:40
2:10 2 проведение темы
3:03 связка???
2 РАЗДЕЛ
3:25 3:39 (тема страдающего Мазепы???)
4:25 связка (секунды)
(4:50 второе проведение темы страдающего Мазепы)
3 РАЗДЕЛ
(7:15 еще одно проведение основной темы )
8:20
4 РАЗДЕЛ
10:30 фанфарный призыв
11:10 победный марш
11:45 12:02 марш-танец
14:20
15:36 марш+тема Мазепы (кода)
I should have KNOWN it was Noseda conducting. That guy shreds every time.
The best performance of this amazing music👏👏👏
Rousing interpretation. Thanks
Several musicologists claim that Raff and others did most of Liszt's orchestrating in these symphonic poems. I don't think so. I just believe that Liszt had the ability to cram about 36 hours of work into 24 hours, discounting a few hours for sleep
100% fav piece
RIP violins and violas
They died of boredom.
They also need to feel pianist's hands after play Liszt's pieces.
Rip to all orchestra
@@gogbordpro765 Yes, yes, yes.
AWESOME!!
Who needs tchaik when you got ma boi liszt :)
I know he has orchestration I mean I can make a whole Liszt of these
@@adrianapartida5888 st0p
Chalk
Tchaik and Liszt are both my favorite composers... so yeah I need them both lol
Lol your taste sucks@@Boccaccio1811
that part at 1:09 is just- 😍😍 wow
Wow, I had no idea he composed this for orchestra way before piano.
Sounds like a mixture of Moussorgski's Night on a Bald Mountain and Wagner's Flying Dutchman...
Interesting comment!
Thank you so so so much!!
@Gottschalk was my uncle omg xDDD
@Schoenberg is my daddy hey!
Nice
@@ValzainLumivix hey
@@that1guy910 hey
15:06 / 15:24 m.Where the trumpets ?? But, incredibly interpretacion !!
Фантастическое произведение.
Yes
11:10 liszt marche heroique. S.510
I basically like this recording, but there is a serious flaw. The trumpets who carry the main theme marked triple forte at 15:06 to 15:38 literally drop out as though there is a technical recording glitz. It leaves a glaring hole in the music and the performance suffers because of it.
Perfection is a nice goal but non-existent in the Universe. Things happen, maybe that's where the perfection lies, in the unpredictable unfathomable machinations of fractals, waves, particles, quarks and UA-cam.
Noseda wants to highlight the strings, the trumpets were less noisy 170 years ago. But the trumpets could still have played fortissimo.
@@ruramikael The strings do not have the melody or the important part in that section. There is no way that the trumpets should fade into the background. BTW, I heard him conduct Mazeppa live with the Philadelphia Orchestra and he did it the same way with subdued trumpets. So it was not a recording engineer's misstep. For the life of me, I don't know why a conductor would do that.
@@rawvision6701 The strings play the begnning of the Arbeiterchor then, The main theme of that work is used in the beginning of the march section of Mazeppa.
Why does this sound like something you’d here in the background of Darth Vader walking into a room 1:05-1:21
Because John Williams knew where to steal from. Star Wars has also a lot of influences of the Planets by Holst. Some almost literally quoted.
I can hear Mozart's Don Giovanni, Schubert, and Gluck's dance of Furies. Very futuristic music.
The first part sounds like it would play as the villain unveils their new superwea- oh wait
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i imagine a sandman theme lol, it just sounds so BIG and so GREAT, u know?
Liszt invented movie and radio music before the inventions of said mediums. Super genius much?
💀💀
the time signature is an equation
Conduct in two beats per bar.
It looks terrifying
Impressive
Cool
I like this
What are the instruments playing the main melody at 1:08
Trombones
There are also cellos and basses added in there too... they don't pop out as much as the trombones but it gives the overall sound a little extra power
Oral :
07:44 ~ 10:36
Liszt writing hard core metal before it was cool.
cool
I smell S.510 vibes in the coda
❤️
I’m not a big orchestra guy but once in a while if I hear one I like I look it up and this one is great my only problem is it gets a little boring in the middle it’s amazing in the beginning and the end
I wonder what you'd think about Strauss' Don Juan - I think it's as exciting of a musical story telling but it remains very interesting throughout
10:38 (personal use)
10:24 ALLEGRO
LISZT 💖💖😌❤❤❤❤
10:26 😄👍
Much better than the piano version indeed. Some parts are absolutely magnificent in orchestration and some parts are quite disappointing. A good work nonetheless.
Disappointing?
Which parts arr dissapointing?
Floris being controversial 😳
@@musik350 🧐📸
Before Mazeppa S.139 is created.
Reminds me of German World War II Heavy guns, cannons and artilleries pulverizing Sevastopol in one of German NewsReels
It Reminds me of the Praying mantis vs Krasshopper fight I saw in my backyard last year, that mf grasshopper fought for his life. I kid you not.
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Anyone come here with S138 Mazeppa Etude for piano xDDDD??
;) ua-cam.com/video/Y5PvGoAzagg/v-deo.html
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리스트 - [마제파] [교향시]
바이마르 시절에 [음악적인 시]라는 뜻을 지닌 [교향시]를 창안했다.
This piece would be so much better if it was like 50% shorter. It just goes too long and diminishes its own ideas' power.
hey Lionel
No
Is that what they told you in the conservatory?
bruh
I disagree
리스트_교향시 마제파
Какая же это имба
¿Cuanto ayudaría Liszt a Wagner?
Pues Cosima Liszt, hija de Franz Liszt, se casó con Wagner. Ya imaginarás la cercanía entre ambos.
grade 9 student attendance 👋👋👋
😘🔥
Now i know why nazi propaganda liked this theme so much.
Too bad, liszt had Gypsy ancestors....
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