Kirby, you have spoiled my department store shopping experience. I cannot look at RTW clothes or shoes the same way now. Really enjoying your videos - thanks for putting so much effort and time into them.
Budd is great! But it's not only about the shirts. I used to patronise another well known Jermyn Street shirtmaker. One day I got an invitation to a black tie event and needed an appropriate shirt quickly. However, I was in a rush and was not my usual well dressed self, so I walk in and I'm totally ignored. I ask to see evening shirts and they wouldn't eve let me see them! Not the kind of customer they wanted, so - I went to Budd instead. Greeted as a long lost relative, even though it was my first visit. I have stayed loyal ever since. The shirts are top notch, but it's really the people that make the difference. A lovely bunch of people, bending over backwards to help, and very helpful in all maters sartorial.
Casual Wednesday by the way Darren was dressed. I'm amazed at how small and pokey the shop really is. You'd think they would have moved to bigger premises ages ago, but then we wouldn't have the Budd tradition of being at that site for all these many years. Your shirt was actually working well with the suit and tie you had on.
This has been an issue for me. My made to measure clothing seems to keep fitting different the more I eat. 😅 I keep trying to blame the suit maker. Lol
I believe Kirby with his slim silhouette wouldn't have much issue picking up the shirt or a suit from the rack and eventually altering it a bit. 999 out of 1000 ppl wouldn't be able to tell the difference. His London Vintage Shopping Extravaganza experience and a cream suit that he bought in a thrift shop proves just that. I understand the bespoke is about the experience as well, but I just can't justify the 10x the price of a quality suit if you are a similar body type as Kirby.
M2m fits most people exceedingly well, too, and I bet that even pros won't be able to tell the difference between bespoke and m2m most of the time. I think that is the best of both worlds.
Also I gotta say I'm surprised they didn't get the collar right straight away. Seems like a very easy thing to measure and produce. No clue about bespoke shirts though. While this one looks great I could never see the difference between this one and a nice fitting one off the rack.
@@federanger On the contrary: he is probably wearing that resort shirt to show that they make all kinds of shirts - not just dress shirts or pyjamas. They make everything from robes to club shirts. What coulor of shirts you like is so subjective. Bright green might have been a bit bold, not my personal favourite of colors for any clothing, but he probably loves it - and so he chose to have it made, and wears it like he should. Nothing wrong with any of it. I'd love a wardrobe full of bespoke shirts in my personal favourite colors and patterns. You would too. Head on over to Budd and have them made!
Thank you, Kirby. Very cool. The part I'm confused about is that Mr. Tiernan said to take the sample shirt home, wear it, launder it, and live with it for a while. How does that feedback get looped back into the pattern if he's going to adjust the pattern and create the final shirt based off of this first fitting?
If I understood correctly, the "final" shirt that he was making based on the adjustments would be shipped to Kirby and he would wear and wash before deciding on any final adjustments. Not the shirt he had on here.
Hilditch & Key use to make beautiful shirts all with pre shrunk shirting material that was well over 20 years ago. I amazed they don't use pre shrunk cotton for their shirts.
A couple of sartorial tips with the best of intentions :) Suited British gentlemen do not wear their trousers above the ankle. A properly cut trouser leg rests, at the back, just above the heel. At the front, it rests with one crease on the throat of the shoe. Neither do suited British gentlemen put their hands in their trouser pockets - ever. Should the need arise, one places a single hand (and only ever a single hand) in the coat pocket. King Charles III is a particular exponent of this gesture.
King Charles is a terrible example of the perfect gentleman. He often has his hands in his trouser pockets and as you mention, even more often in his jacket. Even Prince Phillip had his hands in his trouser pockets. If you know the rules you're free to break them, KC and PP are perfect examples of that. I'd encourage anyone to break some of the traditional rules - it makes everything a lot more fun. I'd wager you, Russe France, have used a spoon for ice cream? Traditionally you only eat desserts with a dessert fork. So you've, per definiton, broken the rules already yourself. Relax, enjoy life. Eat ice cream with a spoon with one hand in your pocket - don't overthink it. Have a good one!
@@russefrance4869 I think the absurd statement, if anything is at all, belongs to you. I'd be happy to make another argument for this being the truth. Although it would be wasting time since you and I both know I am right - and already won the argument. Happy hunting!
As an English professional fashion designer, bespoke tailor, educator and shirt tailor, making and teaching Couture designs and bespoke suits from my shop in England,that fit is not good . First of all ,I do a unique method of Draping shirts on all of my clients, including bespoke tailored Waistcoats.. Draping pretty much is far superior to flat pattern cutting and end result is more balanced than flat pattern cutting.. You should never have a bespoke tailored shirt made totally finished on any fittings.. You should make a mock up shirt and only have first fitting without sleeves and collars to get balance perfect of the front and back. Once happy with fit ,then you should put collar and sleeves on after ... Kirby's front balance is too long ,all diagonal creases on front area- it needs passing up . Also the front chest width too wide . Also the shoukders are pulling,so needs dropping down.. The armhole looks too tight under armhole ,needs slightly scooping out ... I will be uploading lots of my draped shirts and shirt Making on my tube channel.. Look forward to seeing you all there ..
Sorry Kirby didn`t think it fitted perfectly on your right shoulder, ( couldnt see the left shoulder ). i thought it was a little short from your kneck to the crown of your shoulder and it was a little full at the back of your right shoulder. i`m being a little picky because of the price you`re paying for that bespoke shirt.
Hi Kirby, how would you say this fitting process with Darren at Budd compared to Wil Whiting' process? Similarities, differences etc. Would be interesting to hear how the experience between different British shirt makers compare and contrast.
gotta ask, is having the inside / thin part of the tie extend an inch or two below the front of the tie a thing people do, or is Kirby just messing with us? it's almost always longer in the back / inside piece
What an amazing bespoke experience. The Kent and Haste series I can not stop watching. What is the deal with the dress code for this Budd Shirtmakers. The lead cutter he is? He shows up looking like a popcycle stick in an outfit for the carnival. Not a good look. I would get my besopoke somewhere else with more pride in the setting. Seriously if I was well off enough to be buying a Budd and showed up for my first fitting with the man dressed like that I would walk right out the door and take my business elsewhere. The episode is difficult to watch. It just strikes me as unprofessional and not wanting to spend big money here at all.
Yeah I can fully understand why someone would want a bespoke suit jacket or shoes, but seems like an enormous amount of fuss for a shirt, unless you have some weird dimensions something off the peg would probably do just fine with alot less expense.
The shirt maker is badly dressed. He knows he is being filmed. He should put more effort into dressing. It is summer . Do something like a linen overshirt or sport coat.
Just overused, with no justification. Very little of what's called bespoke nowdays actually is. Almost all MTM is passed off as bespoke, without even being near. I have even seen off the rack suits with labels stating "bespoke".
Kirby, you have spoiled my department store shopping experience. I cannot look at RTW clothes or shoes the same way now. Really enjoying your videos - thanks for putting so much effort and time into them.
Budd is great! But it's not only about the shirts.
I used to patronise another well known Jermyn Street shirtmaker. One day I got an invitation to a black tie event and needed an appropriate shirt quickly. However, I was in a rush and was not my usual well dressed self, so I walk in and I'm totally ignored. I ask to see evening shirts and they wouldn't eve let me see them! Not the kind of customer they wanted, so - I went to Budd instead.
Greeted as a long lost relative, even though it was my first visit. I have stayed loyal ever since.
The shirts are top notch, but it's really the people that make the difference. A lovely bunch of people, bending over backwards to help, and very helpful in all maters sartorial.
Casual Wednesday by the way Darren was dressed. I'm amazed at how small and pokey the shop really is. You'd think they would have moved to bigger premises ages ago, but then we wouldn't have the Budd tradition of being at that site for all these many years. Your shirt was actually working well with the suit and tie you had on.
You're throwing out some great videos right now Kirby!
Excellent! I'm also very happy with my Budd shirts.
If only Kirby had as much influence as the Kardashians.
How right you are, sir.
Thankyou kirby an amazing episode thankyou 👏
The key thing with bespoke clothes, especially shirts, is that one does not put on any weight.
Thanks for the heads up Mr obvious lol
My weight fluctuates every week ...will have to be on IV phentermine if I got bespoke lol
means you can't just let yourself go, which is good. last thing you want is to be addicted to tolberlone.
It is certainly an incentive to avoid it!
This has been an issue for me. My made to measure clothing seems to keep fitting different the more I eat. 😅 I keep trying to blame the suit maker. Lol
I believe Kirby with his slim silhouette wouldn't have much issue picking up the shirt or a suit from the rack and eventually altering it a bit. 999 out of 1000 ppl wouldn't be able to tell the difference. His London Vintage Shopping Extravaganza experience and a cream suit that he bought in a thrift shop proves just that. I understand the bespoke is about the experience as well, but I just can't justify the 10x the price of a quality suit if you are a similar body type as Kirby.
M2m fits most people exceedingly well, too, and I bet that even pros won't be able to tell the difference between bespoke and m2m most of the time. I think that is the best of both worlds.
Also I gotta say I'm surprised they didn't get the collar right straight away. Seems like a very easy thing to measure and produce. No clue about bespoke shirts though. While this one looks great I could never see the difference between this one and a nice fitting one off the rack.
As much as I hate saying it, it's also an ego thing.
Well we can also buy shoes at Walmart that are a quarter of the price as Nike shoes and are just as good. But we dont
Unless you’re shaped like a bag of milk a shirt off the peg should be just fine.
Kirby Allison: Dressed as he believes how Englishmen should be dressed. Shirtbloke: Dressed as Englishmen actually are dressed.
Exactly! Kudos to Kirby for putting in the effort, but people simply don't dress like that anymore, except if they have to.. Thankfully I'm not!
could not agree more . its a bitt odd going to buy a proper shirt and the sales consultant dressing the opposite image of what they are selling
@@federanger On the contrary: he is probably wearing that resort shirt to show that they make all kinds of shirts - not just dress shirts or pyjamas. They make everything from robes to club shirts. What coulor of shirts you like is so subjective. Bright green might have been a bit bold, not my personal favourite of colors for any clothing, but he probably loves it - and so he chose to have it made, and wears it like he should. Nothing wrong with any of it. I'd love a wardrobe full of bespoke shirts in my personal favourite colors and patterns. You would too. Head on over to Budd and have them made!
@@federanger especially as the buttons are all plastic... should be horn bone , metal etc
I love watching the videos and I've learned a lot. But in the back of my mind, the question whirls: Has Kirby ever done a days work in his life ?
Would like to see you buy an off the rack shirt and wear it to compare vs just comparing the details off
Thank you, Kirby. Very cool. The part I'm confused about is that Mr. Tiernan said to take the sample shirt home, wear it, launder it, and live with it for a while. How does that feedback get looped back into the pattern if he's going to adjust the pattern and create the final shirt based off of this first fitting?
If I understood correctly, the "final" shirt that he was making based on the adjustments would be shipped to Kirby and he would wear and wash before deciding on any final adjustments. Not the shirt he had on here.
Amazing ASMR
Hilditch & Key use to make beautiful shirts all with pre shrunk shirting material that was well over 20 years ago. I amazed they don't use pre shrunk cotton for their shirts.
they got factory second shirts on their ebay page for 10 quid each. got about 15. loads of winchester styles too. fantastic bargain.
Vibing off of Darren’s shirt. Nice!
A couple of sartorial tips with the best of intentions :) Suited British gentlemen do not wear their trousers above the ankle. A properly cut trouser leg rests, at the back, just above the heel. At the front, it rests with one crease on the throat of the shoe. Neither do suited British gentlemen put their hands in their trouser pockets - ever. Should the need arise, one places a single hand (and only ever a single hand) in the coat pocket. King Charles III is a particular exponent of this gesture.
King Charles is a terrible example of the perfect gentleman. He often has his hands in his trouser pockets and as you mention, even more often in his jacket. Even Prince Phillip had his hands in his trouser pockets. If you know the rules you're free to break them, KC and PP are perfect examples of that. I'd encourage anyone to break some of the traditional rules - it makes everything a lot more fun. I'd wager you, Russe France, have used a spoon for ice cream? Traditionally you only eat desserts with a dessert fork. So you've, per definiton, broken the rules already yourself. Relax, enjoy life. Eat ice cream with a spoon with one hand in your pocket - don't overthink it. Have a good one!
@@wisdomseekertv 'King Charles is a terrible example of the perfect gentleman.' What a truly absurd statement.
@@russefrance4869 I think the absurd statement, if anything is at all, belongs to you. I'd be happy to make another argument for this being the truth. Although it would be wasting time since you and I both know I am right - and already won the argument. Happy hunting!
@@wisdomseekertv No one would wear the trousers above the ankle thu...
As an English professional fashion designer, bespoke tailor, educator and shirt tailor, making and teaching Couture designs and bespoke suits from my shop in England,that fit is not good .
First of all ,I do a unique method of Draping shirts on all of my clients, including bespoke tailored Waistcoats..
Draping pretty much is far superior to flat pattern cutting and end result is more balanced than flat pattern cutting..
You should never have a bespoke tailored shirt made totally finished on any fittings..
You should make a mock up shirt and only have first fitting without sleeves and collars to get balance perfect of the front and back.
Once happy with fit ,then you should put collar and sleeves on after ...
Kirby's front balance is too long ,all diagonal creases on front area- it needs passing up .
Also the front chest width too wide .
Also the shoukders are pulling,so needs dropping down..
The armhole looks too tight under armhole ,needs slightly scooping out ...
I will be uploading lots of my draped shirts and shirt Making on my tube channel..
Look forward to seeing you all there ..
Am I missing a trend or something with the back portion of the tie being visible dangling at the bottom? I’ve seen that a few times now from Kirby.
I agree. such an odd look, make the ties shorter
Sorry Kirby didn`t think it fitted perfectly on your right shoulder, ( couldnt see the left shoulder ). i thought it was a little short from your kneck to the crown of your shoulder and it was a little full at the back of your right shoulder. i`m being a little picky because of the price you`re paying for that bespoke shirt.
I felt the same, the under arm looks uncomfortable , looks more off rack cut.
Hi Kirby, how would you say this fitting process with Darren at Budd compared to Wil Whiting' process? Similarities, differences etc. Would be interesting to hear how the experience between different British shirt makers compare and contrast.
The biggest argument for a custom shirt for me is to get an extra 3" in the tails.
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Kirby, are you rocking a pocket watch in the breast pocket? Like the original Robert McCall? I occasionally brandish one the same way!!
F.R.I.E.N.D.S "He loves the British Chippy" carbs gonna get you Kirby®
When is the Goodwood video coming online.
This is the shortest I have seen Kirby's jacket sleeve...
too short for sure
@@guitar911rock not necessarily. Depends on one's body proportions and whether he can pull it off
@@qarhsi no he looks like a baby boy growing out of his suit
gotta ask, is having the inside / thin part of the tie extend an inch or two below the front of the tie a thing people do, or is Kirby just messing with us? it's almost always longer in the back / inside piece
It's a stylistic statement.
I think he's just bad at tying a a tie. It surprises me every time, his outfits are so put together, and then the tie isn't even correct.
All the bespoke suits yet still has ankle swingers
Not the typical tailor outfit at all
To be fair, if I had the collection of beautiful footwear Mr Allison has, I'd be getting my trousers hemmed a little higher to show them off too.
Kirby, when will we see Wil, the shirthmaker again?
Other European classic tailors etc be good on videos
Would that be the fame Budd collar, we wonder. . .
How much for a bespoke shirt like that, Kirby ?
What is that gold item hanging out of your lapel? I've seen it before but don't know what it is or its utility?
I think it's part of a pocket watch chain
It might be a cigar cutter on the end of the chain.
You should start lifting, Kirby. Fill those shoulders out nicely, add some bulk to the back
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HI Kirby from watching many of your videos around London . I have to ask do you ever fancy a Kebab and is there one you can recommend?
How more English could you get? A couple of pints and a kebab on the way home. However, I don't think that quite fits the Cosplay profile.
what is the ballpark price for a bespoke shirt from Budd ?
£400 I think
No one with actual business to deal with all day will wear clothes that tight and pay that amount of time and energy to uniform which called suits
that shirt doesn't look right at the front. pulling and looks awkward
Make videos on cigars
What an amazing bespoke experience. The Kent and Haste series I can not stop watching. What is the deal with the dress code for this Budd Shirtmakers. The lead cutter he is? He shows up looking like a popcycle stick in an outfit for the carnival. Not a good look. I would get my besopoke somewhere else with more pride in the setting. Seriously if I was well off enough to be buying a Budd and showed up for my first fitting with the man dressed like that I would walk right out the door and take my business elsewhere. The episode is difficult to watch. It just strikes me as unprofessional and not wanting to spend big money here at all.
Seems a lot of hassle just for a shirt which is covered up 90 percent of the time
It would be too long for a 18 year old tik toker
Yeah I can fully understand why someone would want a bespoke suit jacket or shoes, but seems like an enormous amount of fuss for a shirt, unless you have some weird dimensions something off the peg would probably do just fine with alot less expense.
@@holeefuk413 understand he wears braces but all of his trousers look short on him it’s odd
Content is getting too repetitive, Kirby.
The shirt maker is badly dressed. He knows he is being filmed. He should put more effort into dressing. It is summer . Do something like a linen overshirt or sport coat.
akward and cringe moment at the begining
watch overpaid dudes with bloated salaries..see how they get away with it...
“Bespoke” is the most pretentious word in our language.
Not when something is *actually* bespoke.
Just overused, with no justification. Very little of what's called bespoke nowdays actually is. Almost all MTM is passed off as bespoke, without even being near. I have even seen off the rack suits with labels stating "bespoke".
Hi Mr. Allison, if I may ask, what watch do you wear? thanks in advance
He's done a video exactly on this.
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How much is a shirt there