बेंगलुरु में Saurabh Dwivedi से Reservation को लेकर लड़की ने क्या बहस कर ली?। Karnataka Elections
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2023
- The team of Lallantop reached Bengaluru, Karnataka along with Saurabh Dwivedi. Saurabh spoke to students on reservation, same sex marriage at law school in Bangalore. Many students also shared their views regarding the election, apart from this, watch this video to know what happened.
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जाति से मिला आरक्षण सब को दिखता है लेकिन जाति से मिला भेदभाव और गाली किसी को नही दिखता 😢
I as upper caste support reservation but bro think about reservation in promotion, do you think it's right ? Reservation in promotion means that even after being empowered, they have less intelligence.
I don't think it's right. If those people will give up reservation then those benefits will be given to remaining dalits who actually need it
We are not against reservation, but reservation must be given to needed people only , government aid must be given to the needed people only , there is lots of poor in general also ..... I support reservation and government aid in favour to needed people only
Salute Bro... 👍
@@yaten_sharma.007 bs yi Rona rote rho free ka ladoo khte rho 😂😂 jb glt hua TB hua ar usko shi Kia gya ab kis bat ka reservation
भाई जाति खतम कर दो उसके बाद आरक्षण भी खत्म कर देना बात खतम,।।।।
और बात रहा आरक्षण का तो इसका फायदा नही मिल रहा है में भी मानता हूं जो दलित में अमीर है वो इसका फायदा उठा के और अमीर बनते जा रहा है 😡😡
मुझे तो लगता था कि अंग्रेज गलत कहते थे कि इनमें न्यायिक चरित्र बिल्कुल भी नहीं होता,
ये लोग अंग्रेजो को सही सिद्ध कर दिए 😂
Aaysa nhi hai bhai
@@VandnaSahu-vb6up
क्या कैसा नहीं है पूरी बात तो बोलो 🤔
Ye angreji bhut Acha bol rhi Hai...... But Enko upper caste aur lower caste bhi bnakr rhna Hai...... Aur reservation se bhi dikt Hai...... Phile caste system htaeye..... Reservation apne aap ht jayega.....
BSDK. IAS SC/ST ka beta itna besharam hai ki reservation le rha hai
The guys who are getting reservation never want to leave it idiots.
Just tell me weather u are discrimnated on the basis of caste.
I don't think that u might have been.
कुछ भी कहो लेकिन रिजर्वेशन के मजे तो राजस्थान में मीणा समाज ले रहा है,रिजर्वेशन भी ,जमीन भी,इज्जत भी,राजनीतिक प्रतिनिधित्व भी। एक मात्र जाति मीणा को 12% है। मौज ही कर रखी है😊😊😊
Everybody talks about caste reservation nobody talks about caste system/casteism 😂😂
Bcs of only reservation casteism exists remove all reservation and consider all them in general automatically castism would be removed...but apko reservation bhi chahiye aur bologe ki casteism na ho vo nahi hoga
@@nkj9683 JB reservation nhi tha tb to caste system bhi tha or casteism bhi tbhi reservation ki hi galti thi hai na 🤣🤣 reservation pe chilla rhe ho kabhi caste system hatane ke baare me socha lekin tumhe bs kaisi bhi reservation hatana caste system bana rhe desh me ☠️
@@nkj9683 nhi chahiye reservation sabko general me krlo q nhi krti sarkar 75 saal baad bhi sab bate hue hai q
@@user-wj2vk1up8n bhai ek bar bolo government ko nikal de reservation nahi kar sakti vote nahi denge koi...sabko chahiye reservation agr nikal Diya to next time goverment nahi ayegi pakka...majburi hai
@@user-wj2vk1up8n are bhai vo 50 years pahele ka time aur aj ka time bahut change ho gaya hai pahele bahut kharab halat thi isliye hi reservation laya gaya tha lekin ab Aisa nahi hai OBC me to 80% Scst me 50% people bahut happy wealthy hai...hamare bhi friends hai koi partiality nahi hoti ab generation change ho gayi hai lekin reservation rahega tab Tak thoda to partially rahegi hi
Father is working as IAS/IRS/IFS/PSU and child is taking advantages of reservation.
not all ST/SC are IAS,IPS,IRS,IFS.Now a day untouchibility exist in villages.Watch the videoua-cam.com/video/BnKjjj-pESI/v-deo.htmlsi=5uL4KrrlOVDE5O7g
Sahi kaha bhai......par koi politician ki himmat nahi ki is topic pe baat kare......sabko pata he galat he.....par vote bank naa chale jaye......
aapko pata hai na President banne ke baad bhi Dalit bola jata hai
Humko pata hai kitne promotr hote wo. Check ksr lijiye kitne cabinet secretary aur senior positions pe sc/st aur obc hai. Wo promotr hi nai kiye jate. Wo chodiye aap check kar lijiye kitnr HOD, VC sarkari sansthano mein obc, sc/st hai.
@mahindersinghgothwal1878 aree mere bhai, vo president proud se bol rhi hai dalit, people are not disrespecting her for that.
Ans second, now the equality should be have proud of what ever caste you have and all treat each-other equal. There are poor people in general cast category as well, they don't have any reservation.
Thank you saurabh dwivedi ji , for making journalism 100 % not biased....
That's why lallantop news viewers are increasing day by day....
SC,St , OBC की मेरिट विभिन्न एग्जाम में कम इस लिए जाती है क्योंकि इन वर्गों में अभी भी बहुत कम साक्षरता का प्रतिशत है।खासकर मेडिकल और इंजीनियरिंग में।और इन दोनो परीक्षाओ फीस इतनी ज्यादा है की गरीब घरों के बच्चे एडमिशन नहीं ले पाते हैं।दूसरी महत्व पूर्ण बात obc,sc,St, की मेरिट कम जाने से ,जनरल केटेगरी,की मेरिट ऊपर जाने का कोई तर्क नहीं है।जनरल केटेगरी की मेरिट इस लिए ऊपर जाती है क्योंकि इस केटेगरी में पढ़े लिखे लोग ज्यादा हैं इनके पास सारी सुविधाएं भी हैं।तो बेवजह समाज को गुमराह करने की जरूरत नहीं है।5000सालो से कुछ वर्ग विशेष के लोगो को पढ़ने का अधिकार रहा है।obc,sc,St के लोगों को भी मुख्य धारा में आने दीजिए।obc,sc,St को यदि इतना ही आरक्षण का लाभ मिला है तो भारत सरकार में,मुख्य सचिव,2,3 ही क्यों है भाई?????????
Kyoki age relaxation ki vajah se unko itna promotion mil hi nhi pata
Ki sachiv bane
It's 💯%true
Har koi ammer na hota mari site tho SC st OBC ammer hw
@@nihitagarwal-sn4dk Baki Bharat me General ameer hai
Nhi bhi dekhna chiya jhon gareeb ha unko
The girl is having a valid point. Invest in human development rather than giving reservation.
Khet ki muli nhi hai ki ek din me ug jayegi, it'll take time, her point doesn't have any real time logic
@@jaykaranpalkaran7597 Haan bilkul sahi kaha. Time to lagega. Jo mooli 75 yrs me nahi ugi wo time to legi.
@@user-yx6sf2ul1s3500 सालों तक 100% reservations लिया सभी जगह पर 10% उच्च वर्ग ने,
बाकी के लोग को सिर्फ 75 year's मिला government की 1% जॉब्स मैं तो इतना हल्ला क्यूँ??
और जब देश आजाद हुआ था तब ना जाने कितनी समस्या थी देश मैं! तो क्या उस समय reservations का सही से implement किया गया होगा क्या??
आजकी हमारी generation के माता-पिता ज्यादा से ज्यादा 10 या 12 तक पढ़ाई कर पाते थे....बाकी छोटी सी उम्र से ही बालमजदूरी करते थे
अब कहीं जाके आज reservations का फायदा दिख रहा है वो भी बहुत ही धीमी गति से तो 18%GST EDUCATION पर डाल दिया
Behen bohot sahi boli. 🎉
Hmm bhai sarkaro ko toh sirf vote bank ka dar laga rehta hai agar government badalna chahe toh opposition logo ko bhadka kar bheed ekattha kar virodh karenge aur sarkar ko peeche Jana padega
Give reservation:
1. Examination fee/ College Fee all should be do zero for them.
2. Develop educational infrastructure for them so that they can prepare themselves to fight with them on same level
Agar kisi ko reservation se IIT mil bhi Gaya toh kya uske pass abhi bhi knowledge hai Jo knowledge chahiye fir engineer, doctor kharab milenge😅
आरक्षण कोई गरीबी उन्मूलन कार्यक्रम नहीं है, यह समाज के सभी वर्गों का देश के संसाधन पर हिस्सेदारी है।
सारे मामले अंततः आर्थिक स्थितियाँ से हीं जुड़ी हुई है।
चाहे कोई ST हीं क्यों ना हो अगर आर्थिक स्थिति अच्छी है तो अब उसे कोई समस्या वर्ग आधारित नहीं होगी।
@@RAJEEVKUMAR-bt9kskripya aap batayenge ki aap kis categary se hai
Well said bhai❤
क्या सोचे है रे तेरी 😂😂
हराम का सब को चाहिए 😡😡
Ager reservation sbhi vergo ka sansadhano pr hissedari se tatparya h to hr bar sc st me bhi kyu whi log fayda uthaye jo phle se hi financial stable h, reservation sc st me bhi kuch logo ko hi fayda pahucha rhi h baki to aaj bhi jhugi jhopdiyo me rh rhe h
इस लड़की को constitution से पहले महिला का क्या अधिकार था ये बताना चाहिए।
Mahila ko kha reservation mil rha hai. Resveration to SC ST ko mil rha hai.
अंग्रेजो का बनाया संविधान, भारत शासन अधिनियम 1935😂😂😂
@@viralnagar9947 thora or knowledge kahi se prapt karo sc, st, obs, ebc, ews sabko milta hai.
Or reseevation ka virodh karne wale ko itna hi kahna chahte hai ki wo chahate hi ki dusre ke bap ko apna bap banakar uski hissa bhi khud kha jaye.
Reservation hisedari ki ladai hi jo sabhi jagah barabar hogi.
@@SandeepAcademy0301 bol Constitution ke wajah se hi raha hai
@@MunnaKumar-re5eb nhi bina constitution ke bhi bol lete aur isi constitution ki vajah se 15 15 sal case chalta hai gawah mar jata hi saza nhi hoti nyay nhi milta
Really dalit don't want a reservation, they want equality & freedom. The only solution is all dalits leave Hinduism and adopt Buddhism like baba saheb.
Ok,, then tell me one name from 3 buddh who belong to the shudr or vaishya caste...
The reason babasaheb chose Buddhism was not for people to do mastery in Buddhism. Most buddhists primarily don't believe in god for us gautama buddha was a teacher, they dont have any scriptures that had been misused. Please dont try to imitate sambit patra here@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dk
@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dkI always used to believe that retrogression wasn't possible in humans. But today, you my friend, have proved me wrong.
@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dkThe Buddhists recognized the varna system though they did not base it on birth. Unlike you people.
@@ott-dw9sf who say buddist doesn't believe in varn system since birth... What is your source? (Don't say trust me bro)..
I am from gaya Bihar and many buddist who were following Buddhism since thousands of years follow caste, gotra and varn system...
Everybody talks about caste reservation but not caste system
govt sh remove caste system and strict punishment on discrimination after that
ये बात तो बिलकुल सही है,की देश मैं 99% जमींदार,जिनके पास संपत्ति है पुरखो की वो
General caste से belong करते है । बाकी बचे लोगों को ऊपर उठाने के लिए सरकार ने EWS कोटा भी लागू करवा दिया ,पर अब भी General caste के बचे लोग जब OBc,Sc,ST को अपने साथ पढ़ते देखते है,खुद से आगे बढ़ते देखते है तो इन्हे अपने पूर्वजों की बात याद आती है की किस तरह इन्हे वो अपनी पैर की धूल समझते थे,और उनका शोषण करते थे,महिलाओं पर स्तन टैक्स,रेप, नरसंहार करते थे,और फिर भी इनको कोई कुछ नही कर पता था ,तो ये सब चीज अब तो मुमकिन नहीं है यही बात इन बच्चो को अखरती है, और जब भी एक गरीब OBC,sc,st को आगे बढ़ता देखते है तो इनकी गांड़ जलती है और रिजर्वेशन का दुहाई देकर छाती पीटने लगते है । #from_OBC_BC2_creamy_layer
Any proof 🧾
@@utkarshpandey135anapd hai kya
General me Rajput bhi aate he jinhone muglo se apan balidaan dekar war ladi agar esa nahi karte toh sab ke sab converted ho chukhe hote
@@rahul23177abe oo woh hindu beaharm 40 rajput ladki di hai akhbar ko, wikipedia me padh jake,
Prashant Bhai ekdm right 👌👌👌👌🙏🙏
The way sourabh sir takes initiative to clarify things and explain actual reasons behind reservation 🙌
Lallantop is spreading misleading news on reservation system of Ind as they cleverly don't talk about 10% reservations given to so called upper caste population. These will only spread hatred in the society and also divide the society even more. They should also know the fact if they want to discuss any topic. Immature reporting!
TRP k liye y Sab topic laate hai Jo facts k opposite hai but janta unaware hai to Sach maan lete hai..
Do 10% Ews reservations is not enough as per their population?
But u fortunately those reasons are invalid as explained by the second student in the video
reservation is not for generation after generation, after getting benefitted by the reservation advantage they must consider general or creamy layer.
🪔🚩🇮🇳 👌🙏🙏🙏✊ 🇮🇳🚩🪔
......Kuch bhi ho 🤣🤣🤣
.....Kahin bhi ho 👏👏👏
"Propaganda nahi chodenge".
> Le jao apne bimar Mata_Pita ko 50% waale Doctor k paas,
> Banwa lo apne saare road or bridge 50% engineer se,
AUR
> Padhao apne bachhon ko sarkari schoolo me 50% waale Shikshak se .......
Lage Raho .... irresponsible Paisa kamaane me aur Aiyyashi me .......
🪔🚩🇮🇳
agr us bande ko jiske liye aapne kaha ki uske dada ji ke paas jameen nhi rhi hogi,,abhi humne us bande ko reservation de diya,, ab us reservation ka fayda utha kr wo Banda main stream me aa chuka hai ,, ab us band eke paas Ghar bhi hai aur jameen bhi hai,, ab kya us bande ke bachcho ko reservation milna chahiye,, to wo ladki jo kah rhi hai ki cast basis PE reservation galat hai ,,wo sahi to kah rhi hai na,,, kya aap agree krte hain,, asha hai aap jawab denge
Girl raised the correct point.
2nd one I guess not the 1st one
@@PriyanshuBhagatDII 60 percent reservation hai behen....mtlb 40 percent hi merit based hai...desh ki efficiency ka kya hoga dono ne hi correct point uthaya....
@@A.V.I.S.H.I. sare reservation wale bina merit ke nahi hote, and everything is not black and white there is a grey area, reservation is a strong topic and reservation based on economical conditions is necessary. Cast-based reservation is unnecessary this is based on my understanding.
@@PriyanshuBhagatDII Agr saare reservation waale bina merit ke nhi hote toh toh unka general se hi ho jaana chahiye, reservation kyu lete hai. And I support reservation but only for EWS because I think people of SC/ST/OBC category who lack resources will be definitely included in EWS. It ensure that no creamy layer is formed. Don't you think ki 60% reservation might affect the efficiency
@@A.V.I.S.H.I. OBC ke liye bhe reservation ka same criteria ha as it is of EWS 8lpa se kam family income. similar sc st ke liye bhe hona chaia.
@saurabh, I am a bit surprised to read the caption of the new item. Instead of 'ladki', could have used 'chhatra'. I would appreciate a more polished language.
This 4 minute debate on reservation is greater than any debate in past.
Two points put forward by these students is really thoughtful
1. Government should coordinate preparation of backward students instead of reservation of seats.
2. There should be a creamy and a non creamy layer in sc and st caste as well.
Dominant castes knows very well how to chop off them.
They're apt in such skills.
Over the decades news stories are pretty evident to show images.
@@dklf697 I guess ews category represent the same .
Bhikshawanshi 10% mila hai ews
@@utsavsingh1081 haan bhai har samridh parivar ka vyakti apne aap ko bhikshawanshi hi bata kar ews banwata hai
@@vishalchaudhary9864 vo toh hai
Trust me. if SC / ST/OBC are given excellent coaching for exams and do well, these upper castes will start crying about “unfair advantage “
I think these girls need to know about how their ancestors restricted us from saving money, imposed mulakarma tax, casteism, discrimination, raped our sisters and mothers, restricted us from education and temples, we are the who fought for water can u imagine this thing, you have to apologise for your ancestors but the truth is that you don't even want to accept it. I clearly want to say one thing if reservation is stopped then caste should also be removed if you agree on this then we happily throw this reservation on your mouth. I know every caste have poor people but they don't face the discrimination that we are facing on our daily basis, so it is better for you if you clear your thoughts on this topic. #Peace
Zaat ke baal...aza..mera zuta saad kar paise dunga....what did you barked....will start crying...mfk.... passing with 15-20 number & getting at good place, think who got 85-90 made to some IIT or PSU will always be your father in knowledge...got it
@@bhupeshkansay2767 apologise for our ancestors ....why we need to apologise just becoz you are saying this ....seems quite funny...
@@TusarMisra-xd3on If you don't want to apologise no problem at all brother. But stop crying because of reservation. Quite interesting right ?😂
bro , first of all , in present time its not always true that sc/st are poor and they don't have resources ......many of my friends are sc/st and they are so rich but despite of that they are taking benefit of this reservation system ......and on the other side worthy general candidates don't get selected in higher institutions............i am not denying that reservation is important but it should be given to those who deserve it not just everyone belonging to lower caste ...............and trust me it will be good for country as well because nowadays candidates that are not worthy are getting selected at higher positions coz of this system........and the sharp and bright minds are not selected
It’s great to see that young students are having such a clarity of thought on such a sensitive topic
Plus they have solutions as well
Salute
Ask her about woman reservation and she will shut her mouth....agar reservation milna galat hai based on caste... upper caste lower caste v bolna galat hai based on caste...ask her if she will marry a lower caste person....she talks about reservation but she doesn't talks about the caste system. Problem is no matter what u do u will be tag as a lower caste person based on your caste....
I also ask a sc category boy to Marry to St category girl..
He immediately rejected..😢😢😢
Equality left the chat..
@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dk you proved my point.. by accepting casteism exist..and reservation is totally needed and it's fair...lol
@@debasishtanty9312 yes casteism exit and most castiest people belong mainly to sc st obc, community
@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dk you haven't asked shit you just yapping as an argument and stating an result he was just asking you are stating that's what generals do😂
@@SaurabhMishra-rv4dk😂😂😂 man you are too funny
Now my respect for Ambedkar ji has gone to infinity level after this.❤
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN bro if you have so much of problem from reservation then y dont you change your caste and become st/sc...by that you can also benefit from reservation...but i know you wont do it because you know how badly society treats a backward caste.
मुझे बताओगे जनरल कैटेगरी वाले तुम्हारे बच्चे जो वीवीआईपी स्कूल जिंकी फीस 2 लाख सालाना होती है उनसे एससी वाला बच्चा कासे टक्कर लेगा और उनसे केसे टक्कर लेगा जो बदाम एसी क्लासमेट कॉपी...वगैरह सुख सुविधा ला भोग कर रहे हैं जिन्को सिर्फ पढ़ने की टेंशन है किसी से टकराएगा और क्या अपराधी 8 लाख से ऊपरी कामने से अस्पृश्यता खत्म होती है जाति है क्या दिमाग हममें भी होता है पर जो तुमको मौका मिलता है वो शायद एससी के बच्चों को कभी कास्ट को उठाने के लिए पहल कुए नहीं करते
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN 😂jo 2lakh ki per year fees bharte hai school mein vo ssc ,banking ,army ,pcs ke exam nhi dete vo canada ,usa jate hai 75 yrs se muft lekar to bahut sc st vale ias ips sarkari naukri pe lage hai ,khub corrruption kiya hai ab unke bacche foreign mein hai
@@rdx706 bs 75 year me hi aag lg gyi 😂🤪😂wo bhi 1%sarkari job ke 14% reservation se aur bhai jo phle se 100% reservation lete chale aa rhe the unka kya or tum ek sc wala ambedkar ji ko achi education kya mil gyi wo tumgare l lga ke chala gya ab tum chikhte rho hoga kuch bhi nhi 😂🤪😂🤪
सौरभ भाई, इन लड़कियों से पूछो कि इसमें कितनी लड़कियां SC ST कैटेगरी के हैं? शायद नही हीं होगी। क्योंकि उनका बैकग्राउंड उनको इतनी सुविधाएं उपलब्ध नही करा पाती है कि ओ यहां तक सोच भी सके। पहुंचना तो बाद की बात है। यहीं कारण है रिजर्वेशन देने का। भले धीरे हीं सही लेकीन रिजर्वेशन का उसका फ़ायदा हो रहा है।
बात तो सही है
sc st valo ko itne no par orissa ke nlu me mil gya hoga vo ghar chodkar banglore kyu ayenge ye to gen hai jinke parents ne jamin beckar padne bheja ha😢😢
@@rdx706 अरे मूर्ख। तो आरक्षण का जड़ जाति है न तो जाति खतम करने के लिए आवाज़ क्यों नही उठाते तुमलोग। ना रहेगा जाति ना मिलेगा आरक्षण। लेकीन नही बड़े जाति का कहलाना भी है और आरक्षण से दिक्कत भी है। ऐसे कैसे चलेगा।🤣
@@rdx706 jamin hai to bech ke bheja lekin jinke paas nhi hai wo kya karega Bhai patao
@@rdx706 Reservatioon is all about adding extra seats for the ceratin class of peoples,it doesnt mean the institutions are stealing seats from the general peoples. lets assume if the total number of seats are 100 then extra 10 seats are added and kept reserved for the sc/st and obc candidates. If a person belongs to sc/st also scores a general category marks then the reserved seat is not alloted to him/her. lets say pass marks for gen category is 180 and for st/sc is 150 then it doesnt mean seats from gen category will be alloted to tthe st/sc candidate who scores 150 , only the seats from the reserved category will be alloted to them. peoples have misconceptions that st/sc cadidates are stealing seats from gen category.
There are two students.. poor general kid and rich SC.. (because the father also got reservation and came out of poverty) Who should get reservations..
Sir jo issues aapne narrate kiye regarding landholding, untouchability, kya current scenario m ye hota h students k sath???
अगर सब हिंदू है तो हिंदुओं को आरक्षण मिलने से हिंदुओं को ही तकलीफ क्यों होती है।
Sirf vote ke time Hindu hai sir
hame to hamara rishtedar jyada paise kamne lage usse bhi taklif hai kisi ko muft me milne se to bahut taklf hai
@@rdx706 sawal paisa ka nahi hai sahab sawal hak adhikar ka hai swarn log 3000 sal se jo aghoshit arkshan mila usse unka vikas nahi huya to 70sal se jo thik se lagu nahi huya us arkshan se sc st obc ka kaise vikas ho sakta hai
agar sab hindu h to kisi dusre hindu ka seat khaane mai kaunsa justice
Hindu ko aarakchan milna Se hindu ko takleef nhi h bt Kisi k 500 no aae par usko job ya addmisson na mile or 300 no wale ko mil jae Iss baat ka dukh h
SC ST आरक्षण से दिक्कत नही है।
लेकिन जो लोग B group या A ग्रुप की जॉब ले चुके है आगे उनके परिवार को वही आरक्षण ना मिले, बस इस कानून को लाने की जरूरत है।
भाई आरक्षण कोई गरीबी उन्मूलन के लिए थोड़ी है।
आरक्षण हमारा हक है कौन कितना आरक्षण लेंगा वो हमारा आपसी मामला है
Jankari ke liye bta du janab Jo SC , ST Wale h agr unke father ki income jyada h to govt college me bhi fee Puri lgti h , bina kuch Jane kuch bhi bol dete ho , mere college me mere friend ko fee lgti thi whi general, obc Wale ke father ki income km hoti thi to unko fee nii lgti thi , kya bat krte h
@@reenarav184 aur ha agar wo puri fees deta bhi hoga to scholarship me puri fees wapis aati hai har semester ki
tumhe ye bat pata nhi hogi.
@@tharuboys aapke hisab se kis liye hai. SC ST को मुख्य धारा में लाने के लिए??
या और कुछ??
Ek student hone ke naate Mai apni story share karta hu Jo Maine feel kiya, Mai aur mera dost Jo bachpan se hi ek hi school me padhe mtlb bahut hi close the Mai phir se kehna chahta hu ki hum dono same school me padhe, lekin Mera no. Usse hamesha achha tha aur hum dono ek dusre se hamesha competition rakhte the ki iss baar kaun jyada marks layega, phir issi tarah hum dono ki padhai poori ho gyi, phir up lekhpal ka form bhi sath me fill kiye , lekin Mera jyada no. Hokar bhi nhi hua uska mere se 9 no. Kam hokar bhi ho gya, uske baad mujhe thoda sa bura lga ki yaar ye student ke sath marks me nhi honi chahiye, government ko chahiye ki jiski sthiti thik nhi usko paise se help kare uska education level achha kare taki wo bhi achhe no. Gain kre. Baaki ye toh political matter hai mujhe isme padna nhi , kuch logo ko bura lag sakta hai uske liye sorry Bhai log , but ye Mera personal experience hai .
Why on earth do you keep interrupting her? Let her speak her heart out and then you speak.
This is the example of a healthy debate. First address the problem. Then Saurabh clarifies the actual need of reservation. Then students clarify the problem with today's reservation system and Saurabh also agrees. 👏👏
Bro sc st reservation is not on economical basis . Obc reservation is . The girl don't have damn knowledge about affirmative actions in India.
@@abhishekchaudhary666 😂🤣😂🤣mera lund economic basis jav cm pm candidate aur president tak ko ias ips officer tak ko caste oppression jhelna 😂🤣😂pade is desh main 😂 reservation gareeb kalyan neeti nahi representation deti hain bakchodi band kr
@@abhishekchaudhary666the only way to end reservation is too remove people who have become successful using that reservation... or else people who really need them will remain the same even after a 1000 years... and bro today even people from sc/st who hold good positions are looking down to people of there own caste.
@@kushagrashah4160 pehle casteism Khatam Karo . Reservation apne aap khatm ho jayga . Tumhe toh garv hai apni jaati pe . 3500 Saal jab uppercaste hone ka faida tab Reservation nhi Dikha ... jab pandit ka beta pandit aur sainik ka beta sainik bana. Ab bohat pet mein dard ho raha hai.
@@abhishekchaudhary666 lage raho beta reservation ke chakkar tum IAS banjao fir tumhare bacho ko bhi usi reservation bana dena or tumhara padosi SC/ST ka gareeb baccha gareeb hi rahega. Or fir tum chilate rahoge pragati nai ho rahi.. bako humko to ghanta faraq nai padta he.. tu meri jaati pe ja raha he to beta hum to business me believe karte he.🙏🏼🙏🏼
बेशक रिजर्वेशन पर तार्किक बहस होनी चाइये ,लेकिंन ये बहस मंदिर वाले रिजर्वेशन पर भी होनी चाइये,शादी में एक खास जाति se hi मंत्र बोलने vale रिजर्वेशन पर भी होनी चाइये ।
Sc/St cast wale bhi मंत्र pandit se hi karwate hai ab un Sc/St walo ko bol wo Aisa na kare phir general walo ko Gyan diyo😂
@@AnuvSharma_ 🤣🤣🤣मुह् se paida hue ho naa
@@AnuvSharma_ 🤣🤣बात् kya ho rahi aur kya kh rhe ho aaj gobar khaye ho na sahi batana
Mahabharat me v Arjun to reservation se hi jita tha
USS time ye log gaa**nd mra rhe the kya 😅😂
@@AnuvSharma_ bt ko smj fir bol
First girl giving best argument regarding reservation
Healthy debate and disciplined personality of students.
Sir kashh esi debates hamare TV channels pe bhi hoti.
Sir thanks to all your team for providing us every type of real facts and news.
Hogi jab tumhare bhosad ko jisne saare general category bache in 8 saalon mein naukfi nikaal ke overage kar diye aur jab unkey muu mein botti feinkni hogi tav hogidebate 2024 se pehle hogijust pehle
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
मुझे बताओगे जनरल कैटेगरी वाले तुम्हारे बच्चे जो वीवीआईपी स्कूल जिंकी फीस 2 लाख सालाना होती है उनसे एससी वाला बच्चा कासे टक्कर लेगा और उनसे केसे टक्कर लेगा जो बदाम एसी क्लासमेट कॉपी...वगैरह सुख सुविधा ला भोग कर रहे हैं जिन्को सिर्फ पढ़ने की टेंशन है किसी से टकराएगा और क्या अपराधी 8 लाख से ऊपरी कामने से अस्पृश्यता खत्म होती है जाति है क्या दिमाग हममें भी होता है पर जो तुमको मौका मिलता है वो शायद एससी के बच्चों को कभी कास्ट को उठाने के लिए पहल कुए नहीं करते
sc st ke votes khone ka darr hai ,jisne bhi reservation ko kam karne ki baat ki uski sarkar nhi ayegi
कभी ews का cutoff देखे हो,देख लेना SSC, UPSC BPSC एग्जाम का।sc st के बराबर cutoff जाता है
OBC ke cutt of to bata do yar
So that means if the cutoff almost similar, then the cutoff should be same for everyone? Right?
Or now the double standards come into the picture.
koi same nhi hai
That's type of debates we want
The first girl awesome!! Everyone should have courage to talk like her
Kaise koi hazaro saal se education pe ektarfa kabja karne ke baad equality ka baat karta hai? 😂😂
I am obc-ncl....then also I agree with the girl.
I am not against reservation but it needs some modification
Kab Tak past main rahoge . Present main rehna sikho
Na hamne tumhe padhne se roka na hi tumhe untouchables bola
Toh bhai kiss baat ka reservation tumhari generation le Rahi hai ?
😂😂
Lol
Hazar sal bhai proof kaha he?
75 saal me kya kr liya free ka khaya h kha re ho bs
2000 सालो तक शिक्षा को उच्च जाति के लिए रिजर्व नहीं किया गया होता तो आज भारत सोने की चिड़िया होता ✅🙏
अगर शिक्षा रिजर्व थी तो चंद्रगुप्त और अन्य कई नीची जाति के कैसे राजा बने?
@@Bhatti_Saab_7773 चाणक्य ने चंद्रगुप्त को ढूंढा था और उच्च प्रशिक्षण दिया था, अगर चाणक्य का अपमान नहीं हुआ होता और कठिन हालत ना होते तो चंद्रगुप्त भी नहीं होता🙏✅
पहले मुगलों और फिर अंग्रेजो ने जाति बाती देखे बीना सबकी पेलना शुरू किया तो जाति बाती के नाटक को साइड में रख दिया गया और बोलते हैं साथ में मिलकर अंग्रेजो को भगाना है। खुद पर आयेगी तो यूनिटी की बाते करेगें वरना तो सबको पता ही है क्या होता है 🙏🙏
Jaise ambedkar class se bahar baith kr padhe
@@Bhatti_Saab_7773बाजूओ की ताकत और वीरता के दम पर
@@spyadavstudy2298 बस वही तो बात है ऐसे अनगिनत राजा राजवंश हुए है जो नीची जाति से थे ये बस प्रोपगेंडा यानी झुठा प्रचार है कि निम्न वर्ग को दबाया गया
There must be some economic criteria
Right described by sourabh Sir❤
Superb explaining sir we proud of you sir
Superb explaining ananya we proud of you ananya
Ponga Bh@kts don't want to take B@ba's education , they don't want to Western education and 🇬🇧 like English style.
@@indian19992 *Irony is to remove caste discrimination, reservations is being given on caste basis. Reservation is itself discrimination*
@@Ritika_Yadav_Bharti 👍
@@indian19992mere laudey pe
One thing I would like to point out is that whenever we discuss reservation, why we only consider SC, ST and OBC..if we are standing against reservation then we should also conclude women and EWS reservation...then any form of reservation should be wrong...but it seems like we always give biased opinions about reservation
One more thing bro if u wanna remove reservation then directly remove caste then no one will get reservation all will be equal nd only poor whether SC st obs general will get benefits
bruh they dont come in caste based reservation
Abe thats coz reservation based on caste is bs, and india will never grow from that…ews is flr poor generals…and reservation shud only be given to poor….the whole definition of reservation needs to be changed
To hata do ews v... 2-3saal phle ye v nhi tha.. or tb v hm exist krr rhe the.....
@@monuja5074honge hi 70+ years of reservation in age in jobs ieven while form filling scholership s land holding rations etc. SC st get that EWS and women reservation is new compared to them but they don't get age relaxation and other facilities
Education and health should be made free. And government educators should be paid well so that we get good teachers all across.
TQ so much sir ❤
He needs to go to every law college of India and have these discussions. I've learned so much from this.
Lallantop is spreading misleading news on reservation system of Ind as they cleverly don't talk about 10% reservations given to so called upper caste population. These will only spread hatred in the society and also divide the society even more. They should also know the fact if they want to discuss any topic. Immature reporting!
TRP k liye y Sab topic laate hai Jo facts k opposite hai but janta unaware hai to Sach maan lete hai..
Do 10% Ews reservations is not enough as per their population?
Don’t get fooled he didn’t talk at length and explained nothing in depth. Do ur homework by reading Sociology class 12th book ncert
@@AmitSingh-vi8jk😂😂😊
Such type of logical debates must be prevail
Lalan ji
Is reservation permanent process or it has some time limit in constitution
Rereservation finish karna h toh gerenal category ki girl ki shadi sc category mei karna suru karo.
I used to have similar mentality as the girl but then i realised
Reservation isnt all about for uplifment of people from backward category...see example of any nation where revolt took place...always some section of society felt discriminated for eg bangladesh...so if reservation is removed there will be soo many riots now and then that the rate at which india is developing couldhave been even less
You are absolutely right brother 👍
People have completely miss understood the concept of reservation.
Reservation is representation
Bh@kts don't want to take B@ba's education , they want to Western education
@@sartu44 not representation but appeasement. Just to avoid riots out of selfishness of people govt is not taking action. Reservation is more harm to SC/STs then benefits. Some of harms are:-
1. Depressed SCs are not getting benefits of reservations
2. There is developing an general discrimination among people that SC people are incapable or less knowledged and that’s why SCs face discrimination in private sector even if they qualify through General quota.
3. It develops inferiority & Irresponsibility in SC students towards education
Ek ladka jo reservation sai doctor ban gaya hai to usko PG mai reservation kyu hai Kyu ek IAS Kai bacche ko reservation hai bhai uske Papa doctor ya ias hai ab kis baat ka reservation.
@@abhaychauhan7130 they want representation😂😂😂😂 by that logics illiterates should be awarded too with IAS ranks and Doctors degree to represent their community😂😂😂😂
No wonder politicians are exploiting them.
Reservation is to Pull out forcefully people from each Caste to know that how system works for them.. If someone get 45 out of 100 please check their educational background.. Well it's not Rich Or Poor people.. Reservation said that system should have one representative from each caste in Politics, In Beaurocasy, In Education System.. By this we Can change a massive number of People and get the full of Confidence....
You got it right
@@AmitKumarsays *Irony is to remove caste discrimination, reservations is being given on caste basis. Reservation is itself discrimination*
There is lot of disadvantages without reservation
@@Ritika_Yadav_Bharti jb caste discrimination caste ka basis h toh reservation caste based kyu nhi? No irony .. stop discrimination first.. redistribute social cultural political economic capital then talk about merit.
@@Ritika_Yadav_Bharti अगर आपकी ज़मीन, जायदाद आपके ही पड़ोसी/रिश्तेदारों ने १० साल से अवैध रूप से हड़प ली है। तो आप कोर्ट से अपील करोगे की मुझे अपनी जमीन वापसी के साथ साथ १० साल के फसल का उचित मुआवजा/कम्पनसेशन भी अदा किया जाएं। उसी हिसाब से जिन निचली जातियों के पूर्वजों को जमीन तो छोड़ो, उस गांव दहलीज से हजारों साल तक दूर रखा गया, उस सामाजिक छल कपट और बहिष्कार का मुआवजा हम किस प्रकार तय करेंगे ? क्या समाज बहिष्कृत जैसी घिनौनी हरकत का कोई भी सामाजिक हल नहीं है? और इसलिए संविधान निर्माताओं ने Affirmative Action viz. Representation जैसी व्यवस्था का सृजन किया। 🙏
One person
Who raise his voice for sc/st category problem facing..
❤Thank you sir❤
The first student's suggestion should be taken very seriously and second student hit the nail! No Politician is addressing this issue! We should thank Saurabh for allowing the students to highlight these issues.
क्या बोले भैया आपके लिए, इस अंधकार मे डूबे समाज को सत्य का दीपक दिखाते है। सौरभ भैया आप बहुत अच्छा कार्य करते है।
Lag ra arkshan se jee re ho
😂😂😂
Arakshan jeeve itne he intelligent ho to private sector m kyu grow ni kar pa reh kuki waha ni h reservation. Army m kyu ni kr pa reh waha bhi ni h
@@AnujAnuj-tx8tzMandir ke aarakshan pe sudama kota dhonachary kota pe😂😂😂
Abe ews m utna pese lgta jitni tum aukat ni hoti 1500 lgta be to ysa to tum logo ko bhi jiski job ho usko n mile aarakshan tum log ki aukat n ki khud se kr pao hmlog bina arkashn tum lete hi kholkr
Sir aap karte hai kaam real muddo par.... Always respect for you❤
Debate. Civilized. Well-informed. That's the new generation!! :)
Totally agree with the 2nd girl...every sc/st family should get benefits of reservation so that one day no ones left behind.. but currently i have seen many many cases where members of same family were benefitted from reservation over generations from job to promotion that too for each family individual...now these families become certainly more financially stabl, their children go to top convent schools get tutions and coaching and got selected upon less numbers..this created a creamy layer in sc/st itself and only they will get reservation benefits for years to come according to current reservation system. This must change now ...Thoughts?
*Kitne % Hai Answer De Tu*
Aree e vediya sidha bolna caste hatao reservation automatic hat jayega na or Jo garib hoge SC st OBC general sn ek jaise ho jayege
@@Strugglingboy615 ye sahi kaha
Isliye creamy non creamy ka system lana pdega
@@Strugglingboy615ari jhantu caste kse hataye…😂tum hi bhikmange sale caste certificate leke ghumte ho na….certificate nhi rhega to reservation kse milegi😂
I agree reservation should be there but not at the cost of talented minds give sc st obs scholarships for school or coachings but discriminating at marks obtained in exam will surely discourage talented minds🇮🇳🇮🇳
Voices has to raise. Both the ladies reprsents voices of million students in these regard. Give equal oppurtunity to earn the fruit but never fruit itself.
If law student have such thoughts,I don't know how to feel about it
Proud of the girls.....The way they handled themselves after the counter questions of Sourav was really commendable.....👏👏👏👏
I think these girls need to know about how their ancestors restricted us from saving money, imposed mulakarma tax, casteism, discrimination, raped our sisters and mothers, restricted us from education and temples, we are the who fought for water can u imagine this thing, you have to apologise for your ancestors but the truth is that you don't even want to accept it. I clearly want to say one thing if reservation is stopped then caste should also be removed if you agree on this then we happily throw this reservation on your mouth. I know every caste have poor people but they don't face the discrimination that we are facing on our daily basis, so it is better for you if you clear your thoughts on this topic. #Peace
@@bhupeshkansay2767 True.
@@bhupeshkansay2767 right....yh log to proud krte hai caste pe
@@bhupeshkansay2767 so u r living in past. you should blame muslims afgans. ha.
as a general we know what we face in entrances and jobs results.
@@bhupeshkansay2767 I agree with u but the creamy layer point was right so that needy can get his due
One of the greatest mathematicians Mr Ramanujan was born in a extremely poor family in 19th century but he proved his mettle with his ability, hard work and struggle. He didn't cry for poverty, he didn't curse others, he didn't play blame game, he did never play victim card and focused on his work .
So reservation should be ban?
Tumne unse jaa kar pucha tha kya unhone koi discrimination face kiya ya nhi?
जो तोता स्वतंत्र है चाहें गरीब का तोता हो या अमीर का तोता उससे उसकी उड़ान में कोई फर्क नहीं पड़ता,
लेकिन जो हजारों सालों तक पिंजरे में बंद रहा, चाहें वो अमीर के घर पिंजरे में बंद रहे या गरीब के घर पिंजरे में बंद हो, दोनों ही परिस्थितियों में वो उड़ना भूल जाता है।
समझा कुछ 😢
@@JisneshMauryaहो सकता है तोता उड़ने की काबिलियत ही नही रखता हो उसके पंख खराब हो अब तुम जबरदस्ती तोते को उड़ाओगे तो नुकसान ही होगा ना !!
@@TusarMisra-xd3on pehele kya likha h ye samajh lo fir comment kro😁
खुद महिला Reservation लेकर यहां पर खड़ी है नहीं तो कहीं चूल्हा चौका कर रही होती और रिजर्वेशन को कोश रही है😂😂😂
Ye bhi shi hai
Haan teri maa ki tarah
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धन्यवाद।
Rightly said sister
happy to see that our upcoming generation thinks rationally.... they did not deny the exsistence of caste based discrimination in our country and also realized that reservation is not the solution to this problem.
Apne aap khatam ho jayega jab baat roti aur beti pe hogi... Caste pe ni
@@TheAryan1287 beti saman h koi ??
Dono ladkiya galat hai. Pahli ne to fir bhi ant me thikthak baat par pahuchi ki preparation par jor Dena chahiye, par education hi to preparation he. Education system me bhrastachar felaya huwa he education dene wali posts me nalayak nikkamne jaatiwadi varnwadi logo ko bharti Kiya huwa he Varna wayawastha wale bhrastachar ki madat se. Education system ko corrupt tumhare hi Brahminwadi log kar rahe he aaj bhi. Aur ye koi past ke baat nahi he, aaj ki baat hai, aaj bhi yahi ho raha hai. Dusro ka jayaz hissa khana agar jaatiwad he, to usme tumhare Brahminwadi hi sabse aage he aaj ke time par bhi.
Dusri ladki Puri tarah se suru se lekar ant tak galat he, creamy layer terko Brahminwadiyo me nazar nahi aati, pahle unki seats ban kar. Ye mahamurkh ladki kah rahi he ko reservation wale hi reservation walo khaa rahe he. 85% logo ko 50% par simit Kiya huwa he wo bhi kewal kuchek jagah par, 15% log 50% khaa rahe he kuch jagah par aur baaki jagah par 100% bhi kha rahe he, fir lalchi jaatiwadi log Jo dusro ka haq adhikaar hissa hadap rahe he, wo creamy layer ki bakwas kahkar chhaati Peet rahe he dhyaan bhatka rahe he. Brahminwadiyo ne hi education system ko bhrast Kiya, pese sampatti sansadhan business ko bhrastachar felakar kabje me kiya he. Fir bahana lagate he reserve category ka ki wo dusro ka hissa kha rahe he, jabki kha khud hi rahe he.
Inn mahamurkh jaatiwadi lalchi logo ko itna nahi pata ki reservation koi gareebi hatane ke liye nahi he, balki ye kabiliyat ko surukshit rakhne ke liye he bhrastachari Brahminwadiyo se, jaatiwad varnwad ki wajah se he.
Brahminwadi unke bachho ko bachpan se hi Varna wayawastha naam ka bhrastachar karna sikha dete he insaniyat ko vibhajit karte he, fir jhoot bolna bhi sikhate he ki Varna wayawastha aur jaatiwad alag he, jhoote makkar log. Fir ye bhrastachari Brahminwadi log pure desh bhrastachar felakar aur farzi merit ke bahane ye nalayak log dusro ka hissa hadapate he. Reservation yaani hisedaari adhikar me koi gareebi hatane ke liye nahi he, anyaay ke khilaaf he.
Jab tak Varna wayawastha naam ka bhrastachar he yaani insaniyat ka vibhajan he bhrast logo dwara, tab Tak Kam se kam 85% reservation har jagah lagoo karo imandari se. Sudhar jaao, abhi kewal jayaz hisedaari lene ki baat ho rahi he tum insaniyat ko vibhajit karne wale bhrastachari Brahminwadiyo se, nahi to wo wakt door nahi he jab iss sabka bhuktaan bhi liya jaa sakta he.
@@ashutoshgautam3293 bhuktan liya jas sakta hai ?? Open threat to a specific group of society call for violence? Under section 503 it's a crime just a one complain nd u will behind the bars ... Bolne se phle dhyan do ky bol rhe aur kiske aganist bol rhe ye desh constitution se chlta hai kisi k khokli batto se nhi ...ar jo yogya hoga uske pass sb hoga that's all !! Ar jiske jitne sankhiya utna hak .. India k population sbse jada h tu ky India puree earth pr kabja kar lega? Have some logic in ur talks ...nd be in limit when u are saying something on public Platform
He is conducting the interview in a tier 1 city to an educated group of kids .
He has no idea about the TG he is engaging with .
The girl is absolutely right .. reservation should be made for economically weaker sections of the society who don't get access to primary and secondary education at school level.
They could be from any caste ,creed or religion.
The system itself is becoming the enabler for discrimination when you ask people to write their religion and caste on documents and certificates .
Young gen should not be burdened with the sins of the past . They live in a different time and era . The solutions should also be such.
I belong to SC category.. A few month ago, railway group D published the result. I got 62 marks marks out of hundred. And my friend who belongs to general category he got 53 marks. He is selected for PT. But I am not. Because of he have EWS category. And one important thing is that in my friend's family two person are already in government job. In every railway zone EWS cut off mark is less than SC category about 10 marks. Ye log arkshan ka mza v lenge aur seena chauda karke apne aap ko pdhaku v btayenge. Hypocrisy Ki Bhi Koi Sima hoti hai
Give details of your friends
EWS reservation sidhe caste based reservation hai. Sc/st/obc ko reservation social backwardness ke liye milta hai.
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Nonsense saying anything
Most Educated Lower Caste lmao EWS means Economic Weaker Section. They have many People who are not listed as OBC SC and ST but it does not mean upper caste because there are many Tribes or People who are backward yet they don't come in any category and It also Includes people of Different religion. Thank you for showing your Intelligence and Proving How a scheme of 75 years which couldn't even uplift it's benefactor is still praised in a constitution (SC/ST are still the poorest).
So heartbreaking that these young students are faced with reality how unfair the life and world is at such early age. Don’t worry kid, work hard and work towards leaving the country and go to some place nice where there is no discrimination. You will do just fine 😊
by obtaining 150 marks got admission in private medical colleges,these students are definitely from upper class.then there is no problem.
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
मुझे बताओगे जनरल कैटेगरी वाले तुम्हारे बच्चे जो वीवीआईपी स्कूल जिंकी फीस 2 लाख सालाना होती है उनसे एससी वाला बच्चा कासे टक्कर लेगा और उनसे केसे टक्कर लेगा जो बदाम एसी क्लासमेट कॉपी...वगैरह सुख सुविधा ला भोग कर रहे हैं जिन्को सिर्फ पढ़ने की टेंशन है किसी से टकराएगा और क्या अपराधी 8 लाख से ऊपरी कामने से अस्पृश्यता खत्म होती है जाति है क्या दिमाग हममें भी होता है पर जो तुमको मौका मिलता है वो शायद एससी के बच्चों को कभी कास्ट को उठाने के लिए पहल कुए नहीं करते
tujhase kisne kaha ,150 vale low caste hai sabke paresnts ias ,dr hai aur sab 1cr dekar mbbs karenge
That's why Ananya told that the preference or reservation or whatsoever should be given during preparation....don't think that this reservation ends when exam ends it remains in college during studies...bcz the level which had been put in by general students is more rather than those guyzz(rare cases do exist) but I am talking generally...At last reservation create discrimination
ऐसे कॉलेजों में भारतीय संविधान को भी एक्स्ट्रा सब्जेक्ट के रूप में पढ़ाया जाना चाहिए ताकि ऐसे स्टूडेंट्स को अपने एंबीशन के अलावा भारत की स्थिति भी समझ में आए।
जाति की वजह से जो आरक्षण मिलता है वो सबों को दिखता है लेकिन उसी जाति की वजह से जो अपमान होता है वो किसी को नहीं दिखता।
आरक्षण खत्म करने वाले पहले जाति खत्म करने की बात करें।
Yes ..apne sahi kaha .
So u mean selecting student who scored 400 is better than student who scored 600😮😮
@@Rahulshukla91833 Yes, because the one who scored 600 has got far more resources to achieve whatever he/she aspires in their life. The one who got 400 may not have such facilities right from their childhood.
@@Rahulshukla91833 absolutely yes
@@BodhiGyanThen... ain't it better if those from backward caste who have those resources must not enjoy the benefits JUST because they were born backward and giving the chances to those who ACTUALLY do not have resources in the backward classes??!!
the way she said BACKWARD tells everything 🌝
I want to ask a question to the girls in this video. How many sc or st are there in your college comparing to uc. You can get the answer by itself 😊. Jahatak creamy layer ki bat hai to how many sc or st candidates are mp or mla in our system. I think it's hardly 2 percent. To jabtak empowerment iss level tak nahi hoga tabtak intejar karo 😅
If the reservation system is not helping sc/st according to this lady, why not bring more better option including reservation?
And what would this girl say about EWC category? And OBC? Afterall It's not the sc/st only.
And for her kind knowledge the reservation is not poverty alleviating scheme or any discrimination against her kinds(generals).
The main aim of reservation is of equal opportunities for all groups it's not a favour on us anyway?
Remember the separate electorate demand by Baba Sahab ?
If you don't know, go read and know how democratic reservation came into existence.
One more thing what about the historical reservation of 3000 years on everything whether its education, wealth or land ownership etc etc.
To all my lovely ambedkarite brethren ask them these questions and see how they go crackers💥😂..
Election me seats reserved h sc/ St k liye ..aur mp..mla to public representatives hai ek trf khte ho hm sbse jada hai fr sbse jada vote bhi tu tumhara howa fr bhi ro rhe mp Mla nhi hai gjb ho
bhai ek salah du? Jaat Jhaat na karke, thora sa thora dimag se khela karo dekhna tumhe koi nhi puchega kis jaat ke ho... Tumhari aukaat jab padhne ki nhi hai toh isme General category ke merit ki kya galti? Abna agar tum OBC/SC/ST se ho toh ek kaam karo, ussko use karo aur fir tum jis exam ke liye padhe aur pass kiye, uski garima ko samajh ke UA-cam ya fir free ka apne OBC/Sc/ST ke liye coaching khol lo aur unko bhi liberate karo phehle apna card use na karne dena tumhare 2nd gen ko. Yadi na kar sako toh yaad rakhna, tum bhi mauke ka faida uthaye aur haath dho lia ganga ke paani se par yadi tum hi muhim lo aur apne castes waalo ko padhao toh yeh RESERVATION ka rona band karwa sakte ho...
ये सवाल आप लोगों को अपने बाप दादाओं se भी पूछना चाइये कि ek विशेष जाति को युद्ध कौशल,व्यापार कौशल,और ज्ञान कौशल se दूर क्यों रखा गया। दर्द हो रहा हैं ना कभी उस समुदाय ke बारे में सोच कर देखिये जिन्हे दिंन में बस्ती se बाहर निकलने तक का अधिकार नही था।
Unke ancestors aaj nahi he jinda to unse kaise puchhe vo . I think you have done something wrong then you should be punished not for what your forefathers have done in past
@@castelessaastik4655 तो फिर अंग्रेज़ो se kyo khte ho ki wo apne atit ki glti k liye maafi mange ।
@@castelessaastik4655 बेशक़ वर्तमान pidi ko saza nhi deni chayiye lekin kmskem unke sath to raho lekin ye log to virodh krte hain kevl virodh nhi krte maar pit p utaru ho jate hain
@@dineshprajapati3111 Angrej indians ko reservation nahi de raha.
Me reservation ke khilaf nahi hun bhai, mera kahna he ki jo dalit bhai padh likh kar bahut amir ban jate he unko to kam se kam reservation chhor dena chahiye aur iska fayda direct un daliton ko milega jo dalit bhi he aur garib bhi.
Abhi jo situation he isme agar 30 seat reserve he sc/st ke liye to usme se 90% job vahi dalit le lete he jo amir he ya unke gha me pahle se koi job me he.
Garib dalit ko reservation ka fayda aaj bhi nahi mil raha he.
@@castelessaastik4655 nhi mil raha hai to milega bhai dhire dhire jay bhim
Sir can you please come to dtu we want some good debates
Knowledge of that girl is awesome….raised right points
very well presented . Reservation helped me to come out of poverty as my father had no land ,but a 4th grade job at an industry and only a house. I had to face taunts from other students , but I never minded their words as they never visited a village .If they would have seen the village I was from , they would have seen a world apart in 80's-90's. A world where 95% land is occupied by general category and 5% by the population who are serving them. Now I have already made my mind that my children would not use reservation . I wanted to grow them without a caste identity , only religion Hindu. There was a funny incident . My kid got admitted in class 1 in a private school and I left caste option in admission form nil . But when I wanted to change his school in class 3rd , I got his TC from the school , and surprisingly caste in TC was filled Brahmin by school authority, as it was mandatory to specify caste in that certificate issued by state government. So caste will never leave a person in India and caste supremacy is going to be there for next 100 years. Government should not make compulsory to write caste name in various documents. caste option should be made optional.
To tackle creamy layer case in reserved category,government should reassess population and it is easier to track income tax and earning using aadhar. Caste certificate should be linked to aadhar.
And how will government deal with soft caste discrimination still existing in educated society ?
For example , My family and one of my colleague's family had a great fun in Goa tour. But my colleague's wife was curious to know my caste and we revealed them that we are xxx caste from SC category. Since then, that family behaved like a stranger to us :). Since I have faced this situation before , I also assume we never knew each other, and I am adapted to it.
Truth is that large portion of corporate jobs is with MNC's and compared to it government jobs are meagre. And what should be %age of reserved category professionals in MNCs? And what is %age of general category professionals? may be 70%-80% . What is solution ?
yes you were deserving reservation ...but most of land loard caste are getting reservation because of politics....
But right now its all have sc st have lol bcz general were sold for there child study bcz they have no reservation to get discount on all where 😂
blank वाही छोड़ते हे ,नो दलित होते हे
It's not Not reservation, It's about who is getting them,
My friend is rich and made a EWS certificate
My one SC friend is very rich than me(General), No one knows his caste Untill he brings his Caste certificate of Buddhist SC
In reality SC ST reservation are mostly taken by middle class or Rich SC ST, And most of the SC ST are still living in that condition
If that person who deserves Reservation gets that then there is No problem with reservations
And yes Reservation should not be more than 25 30%
Total 65% reservation(including General EWS, Female) is there in India
In states like Tamil Nadu 69%(without any General EWS or Gender)
This creates a problem that In a exam were people studies for years and they don't get anything after scoring more than 60% students who are giving with you
It's Not Just About Caste Reservation
Religious Minoritiy, Linguistic Minoritiy, Regional reservation, Home state, female, EWS, SC, ST, OBC, etc.
(There are many like J and K, Army but they didn't affects the most)
@@aayushjha5004 here I like to add something. How we can remove reservation? If someone is taking reservation and got the service or job. Then that persons family now onwards should not get the reservation. They will be treated as general. Why because BR Ambedkar clear that reservation is for uplifting the backward class. Now if a class got a job by taking the reservation then that person is uplifted then no need of reservation now onwards to that persons dependents.
एक आप ही ऐसे रिपोर्टर हो जो कही भी रेजर्वेशन पर बहस होती है और कोई अतार्किक बात पर विरोध करता है तो उसको उसके सही मायने समझाते हो जिससे उसके मन मे रीजर्वेशन के प्रति बैठी नकारात्मक धारणा में सुधार हो और जो सुन रहे है उनको भी ।आपके इस निष्पक्ष काम के लिए दिल से आभार ऐसे ही भाव एवं विचार से हमरा देश समृद्ध होगा ।
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN
See, if you say that your your forefathers were oppressed, it means they were inefficient,
And if you are getting the benefits of reservation and your 45 marks of 100 is being compared with 85 marks of general, it means you still are inefficient...
This is harsh reality that I know you won't accept, but it is what it is...
@@EklavyaSingh98247 konsi esi naukari wali exam hai jisame itna anter rhta hai batayega mujhe 😂🤪😂 aur kisane kha tujhe ki marks se efficient hote hai or esa bhi nhi hai sc walo ko sirf 45% course padhna pdta ho suvidhao ka anter hai babu kisi ko environments guidance suvidhae jyda milti hai kuki unke baap kisi ko neecha bnakar 100% reservation khud le rhe the
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN kisi ke neecha bnane se kisi ka baap neecha bn gya toh wo nikamma or kaamchor tha...
Tum apne baap dada ki kushalta pe sawal utha rhe ho kya??
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN maine sayad kahi ye mention nhi kiya ki naukri waale exam mein cutoff 45 hote hain tumhare..
Maine generalised way mein bola or agr dekhna hai to JEE ki last 10 year ki cutoff dekhlo..
Mai aise kayi examples de skta hoon..
Or agr job ki hi baat karun toh tumhare or UR categories mein 10-15 marks ki difference hoti hai or open exam mein 1 marks ki difference mein hazaron candidates aa jaate hain...
Give reservation to the poor people not according to caste system.
That's the things.... Right❤❤
Very good and knowledgeable debate saurabh sir
Government should make a nation wide survey to know how much each caste holds how much resources (education, government employment, land, private earning etc.) So that these so called people can get proper data to see how previledged they are. I totally agree with 2nd Girl's POV.
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
मुझे बताओगे जनरल कैटेगरी वाले तुम्हारे बच्चे जो वीवीआईपी स्कूल जिंकी फीस 2 लाख सालाना होती है उनसे एससी वाला बच्चा कासे टक्कर लेगा और उनसे केसे टक्कर लेगा जो बदाम एसी क्लासमेट कॉपी...वगैरह सुख सुविधा ला भोग कर रहे हैं जिन्को सिर्फ पढ़ने की टेंशन है किसी से टकराएगा और क्या अपराधी 8 लाख से ऊपरी कामने से अस्पृश्यता खत्म होती है जाति है क्या दिमाग हममें भी होता है पर जो तुमको मौका मिलता है वो शायद एससी के बच्चों को कभी कास्ट को उठाने के लिए पहल कुए नहीं करते
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN general ka matlab ye nahi hai ki har koi ka financial situations Accha ho.. Almost 90% general madhyam varg ya nimn madhyam varg se taaluk rakhte hai aur Challenges Unke liye Reserved Class Itna hi hard hai..
@@ChadErenYeager9392 bhaii data dekha hai? 90% of generals are rich over income of 5-6 lac per annum.. Also they have their caste pride jisse unke liye samaj mai harr ek chiz easy ho jati hai? Also 70% of 90% have caste capital.. Mtlb baap dada ki zamin jo ki oppressed class se chini gai thi during zamindari system(British rule) sab kuch toh hai bhaii tumhare paas bss adhe zano ke paas dimag nahi hai 😂
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN Jaisa ki ess vdo me uss ladki nn jikr Kiya ki preparation k time pp reservation do, naki result k time . That the main issue which the general caste students facing right now . Sabhi k paas ek dimaag , the thing which is needed is to explore your body , mind not through the reservation.
Sir ek suggestion hai
Jiske maa baap SC/ST hai aur unki govt naukri hai unke bacho ko SC/ST certificate nahi dena chahiye. Kyuki unke maa baap are capable of providing quality education to their kids
for the solution i think that all education will free for every one and pay scale should be equal in government and private sector. and introduce one nation one pension for all citizens this will change the situation in future.
Saurabh Ji respectfully disagrees with the girl and explained to everyone his point. huge respect for him. The country needs this kind of journalist.
आप तो अशरफ सवर्ण मुस्लिम हो, जो पसमन्दा के हक़ खाकर आगे बढ़ा है ।
I think these girls need to know about how their ancestors restricted us from saving money, imposed mulakarma tax, casteism, discrimination, raped our sisters and mothers, restricted us from education and temples, we are the who fought for water can u imagine this thing, you have to apologise for your ancestors but the truth is that you don't even want to accept it. I clearly want to say one thing if reservation is stopped then caste should also be removed if you agree on this then we happily throw this reservation on your mouth. I know every caste have poor people but they don't face the discrimination that we are facing on our daily basis, so it is better for you if you clear your thoughts on this topic. #Peace
@@bhupeshkansay2767 ये सवर्ण दोगले होते है।
The 2nd girl countered his argument really well
Ex hindu ka jawab do bhai
Great to see the empowered women... Can't express the happiness of seeing these videos of positive growth of my country in such directions... 🇮🇳
Thats the whole different matter
if someone is rich and can offord every resources then there is no need to provide them reservation
no matter if they are from backward class
Bhai positive growth......
Inter caste marriage k bare me kya khayal hai.
Lol what positive growth ? That we are touching the bottom in every world human development index year by year ,
@@SahilKumar-iv5yz Ambedkar ki wife, paswan ki wife brahmin hi thi, gawaaro wali batein mt kiya kro, shadi personal issue h, jisko jisse krni h vo usse krega, jabardasti nhi krega
@@ispittruth5537 only in courts....samaajh toh condemn krta hai na
Reservation in education definitely has been disadvantages
Bahut acha kha aapp ne ananya ji
This is a very good point that government in future should look upon... 👏 👍 constructive and harmless suggestions must always be welcome by all social groups
Reservation agar milna chahiye to sirf gareeb logo ko hi milna chaiya.... Kyuki discrimination gareeb backward cast walo k saath hota hai na ki ameer backward cast walo k saath
True
Me financially stable family se belong krti hu ....me bas 24 age ki hu ...14 August 2022 ..... Me indore me hi ek uncle ne meko caste se gali di thi ....tum jaise bangi chamar ki aaolad ....ham rajput hai ham me rajputana khoon hai ..me ladki hu me unki baat se hi na jane kitne dinon tk royi......aaj vo uncle sarpanch hai .....me bta nahi Sakti ye baat aaj bhi meko rone pr majbur kr deti hai .....bas aaj yehi reason hai mere liye meri caste hi sab kuch hai ....Jay bhim 💙 ham aise nahi the hame bannya gya hai ......
Reservation has not been given on
economic basis in the constitution, reservation was given so that social discrimination could be eliminated and those who impart knowledge on reservation should also tell what is EWS 10 percent because reservation on economic basis is unconstitutional but it is being given and is being taken by general and the bigger thing is that the people who are taking the reservation raise questions on ST SC reservation. I am from OBC and many times I go more than general on OBC cut off but I support SC ST reservation because we can never remember the value of what those people supported. Even today they have to see casteism in IIt and other big sectors. Yes of course those who have IAS, IPS in ST SC, their children may not get it but that reservation is for the same community Let the rest of the people meet it and those who oppose it should put themselves in their place and see why they gave it away.
#Satyamev jayte.❤
Right 👍
The point Ananya gave was great ! Don't make their bar lower but Give them preparation facilities same as general.
जिनको आरक्षण की बेसिक समझ नहीं है अगर ऐसे लोग भारत की न्यायिक व्यवस्था में जाएंगे तो न्याय की उम्मीद ही कैसे की जा सकेगी? इतना पूर्वाग्रह। सौरभ सर से भी ऐसी उम्मीद तो नही थी।
Saurabh ji pahle se hi bhagedaari ke khilaaf rhe hai.
sahi kaha. ye lawyere h, isko basic equality ka nahi pata. bas kala coat phn k aa jao court me jaban chalane.
With Sourabh Bhaiya 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Would love to see more videos like this.....
Right then what is ews reservation
Reservations ka base bhi pta hai tumko
Economics base pe nhi diya hai sc /st ko untouchability ke base pe diya hai or apki jo quality education hai un school me hmko jana bhi naseeb nhi hota uper se castlism teacher or logo ki dohari mansikta mante hai tumko kabhi castlism ya bhedbhav bilkul nhi dikhega na hi tum isko kam krne ki bat kroge 🥺🥺🥺😟😟
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN EWS is reservation to poor ppls belonging to general category..bakki castlism ky hota hai?😂 Speeling error hote ek bar likhte har jgh tha likha hai ye castlism hai kya
@@TusarMisra-xd3on kuch nhi chantan dhrm me hota hai 😂🤪😂
@@ABHAYSINGH-SANATAN jinke sahi se likhne k aukatt ab vo hme btayege😀😀🤣
@@TusarMisra-xd3on oh sorry chanatan nhi tanatan dhrm 😂🤪😂 ab shi hai
but what about seating capacities gen. and sc /st seat avalabilty is not equal..
Agree with ankita 👍
What I like about you Saurabh ji is that you accept what's right and argue against what's wrong unlike most stubborn reporters who stick to their side of argument.
Kudos to the girl!!!
Also, Saurabh Sir the way he explained and listened ❤
Brave and intelligent women totally agree
❤ very valid point by Saurav ji. No one is asking government to increase the seats
More power to such open discussions, saurabh ji and the lallantop 🎉
Bhaiya Saurabh , hum aapse katai sahmat nahi Hai, you can not support Sankari discrimination. The girl has much valid an solid thoughts.
you can not agree , because you are a brahmin...
Reservation ka baat sunte hi dimag kharab ho jata hai😊😊