And now I can't help but imagine Shadow being the one who drove the GUN truck back in SA2 during his own escape from the city while wondering "Who is this blue idiot who keep running in front of THIS?"
Goku: "Vegeta listing You need to run before Freezer's mind control take over" Vegeta: "I don't run Clown. I'm the Prince of all Saiyan. I Fight" Freezer is a TFS Reference
It's worth noted that the artist, Jack Lawrence, had to wear wrist brace from drawing more than 580 background zombots in this issue. So, give the issue some credits, will ya?
@@3mar00ss6 It doesn't matter. His speed would still be able to burn it off. Shadow also assumed that he couldn't get infected because of his disease immune body but he was wrong.
I actually beliefed he couldn't get effected either. He is probably immune to all diseases, so he assumed this was just another disease. But like MBR said, it's turning organic lifeforms metal
Things just went from bad to worse. Shadow is one of the powerhouses of this franchise and being affected was one of the things I was afraid it could happened. Damn, that ego of his was his downfall, and he paid the price for not listening his friends; we all know he wouldn't listen to Sonic, but at least Rouge he would. There's got to be a reason this issue is a 2-part'er: Zombot Shadow is on the loose (does he retain his powers?), Sonic and Omega are the only ones capable of fighting this thread and my only hope is that we finally have a breakthrough on a cure for this menace
In one of the leaked covers of the future issues, it shows Shadow in his normal form with Rouge and Omega holding on a door to prevent zombots from getting in. So my guess is that in the nest issue Sonic and Omega will find a way to cure Shadow. Mabye in their fight, Sonic starts to run and zombot Shadow chases him with high speed and that causes his infection to go away for a while
The only thing Sonic is to blame for is repairing Metal Sonic in the hope that the robot lives his life however he chooses to. Only for it to then backfire and Metal Sonic to find Mr Tinker and destroy him shortly before bringing Dr Eggman back to life.
Yeah, this is becoming a bit repetitive. Ian Flynn makes mistakes but although I don't like some of his ideas I must admit that he knows how to write good moments of tension in his stories.
@Daniel von Strangle Even for Charmy its a stretch given that he was during the prison island level in Shadow the hedgehog far less stupid and directly fallowed Vectors orders assuming he knows what he talks about. I at least can't remember charmy encouraging me to jump into the radioactive sludge for beat up more Black Arms to help gun. And Obviously its much worse for Shadow. But hey even Eggman lost his mind in the last issue because mister Ivo "after plan B do I still have Plans C and D to fall back on" Robotnik as he showed in Adventure 1,2 , battle heck even in Forces does here nothing after his robots stop obeying him. That not my Eggman to be sure. And Whats even up with them sending Sonic around the globe when he with his ability to fight it back should be under a scanner at tails workshop so that he can find a cure. Seriously the Characters here get dumber by the issues.
@Daniel von Strangle The Shadow thing is apparently because of Sega vetoing his original idea to have Shadow unleash his inhibitors and use the energy output to hold off the virus because they wanted Shadow as an overconfident Vegeta-type character.
According to Ian Flynn, when someone asked him about it, he explained that the original plan was for Shadow to unlock his inhibitor rings and instead use the energy output from those to combat the infection as an alternative to running, which is a significantly less stupid idea, but Sega vetoed it, as they wanted Shadow's characterization to be written in a specific way (aka overconfident jerk rival, ala Vegeta).
7:11-7:16 I miss Mephiles. He was one of the best Sonic villains. Shadow was like Vegeta in this story. I would like a Metal Skin Mod for him in SA2 to be honest.
Also, after thinking about it, it just occured to me: If we were to split the cast into specfic teams, a pattern emerges. Team Chaotix: Charmy gets infected due to his inability to deal with a victim being left behind. Team Rose: Companions Cheese and Chocola get infected protecting their friends. Team Dark: Shadow goes down due to his hubris and misunderstanding of Sonic's words. Team Sonic: Sonic is infected, but has so far staved off complete corruption, but that may chance considering issue 19 and 20, as well as those afterward. All things considered, I believe that after being infected, and the virus mutates beyond control, the aforementioned individuals (Sonic may fall into this catagory) will try to find someone they remeber prior to their infection, only it isn't out of worry.
@@3mar00ss6 His skating functions the same way as Sonic rolling around at the speed of whatever the fuck he decides to run at, so i don't see the point in.. pointing that out.
@@aircall2065 like Sega could just use it as an exuse to that utter joke of a situation we had there (⌐■-■) "shadow was hiding his weakness infront of sonic" is way better than "shadow is stupid arrogant and immature" don't you agree...
Anastasia Sobieski You’re not the only one getting worried for him 😥. After seeing that panel of him in his mind saying he’s starting to get tired really made me worried..
@@charfox_draws20 I just hope that he doesn't turn into a zombot and I'm also hoping that he and Omega can contain Shadow before he attacks the people in the truck along with the other zombots.
@@anastasiasobieski3500 will he almost become one on issues 18. When agrue with gemel, but least he run out the virus wash out. Thank goodness he safe😊👍
well yes but tbh he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
Shadow was an idiot at the end of the episode. "Don't let the Zombots touch you. If that happens, run at top speed to burn off the infection." And Shadow, being the Ultimate Life Form, decides to shrug off the advice and the infection and carry on fighting the horde of Zombots until it was too late to do anything to save himself. And of all the things Sonic is to blame for, letting Mr Tinker live was not one of them. It was repairing Metal Sonic and letting him go to find Dr Eggman (formerly known as Mr Tinker) that caused the Metal Virus incident to occur. At least Charmy _tried_ to escape after he made the mistake of ignoring Vector's orders to stay put. And I thought the bee had the intelligence and common sense of a breadstick. Shadow, from the very moment he got infected, had the intelligence and common sense of *mashed potatoes* in comparison. ¬_¬
I have a saying that my dad often uses that his mom made, that describes Shadow perfectly in this issue: *ARROGANT-DAFT*. Stupid hedgehog... If they do manage to beat the metal virus and cure everyone, Sonic immediately has an n-word pass for the rest of time to do whatever teasing he wants to do on Shadow, in my books!
I never imagined Shadow would act this incompetent. Shadow has long since been a humbled character, and has shown some legitimate competence. It's just hard to see him acting this way after being nearly controlled by Doom _twice,_ and getting bested by Sonic on multiple occasions. He should know well by now that he's not invincible. Even with the flanderization, it's still incredibly jarring to see. And that line "cowards run. I win." Was far more in line with something Vegeta would say than Shadow the Hedgehog. Tbh though, I don't know why I'm surprised. None of these characters really seem to have the complexity and defining traits they once did, and in some cases, have either regressed, or become complete caricatures of themselves. Why exactly is Shadow here in the first place when it was the HUMAN WORLD he promised Maria he would protect?
Seeing Shadow being turned into a Zombot is both heart breaking and infuriating. one of the coolest Sonic characters has been infected due to his own arrogance...
I feel bad for Shadow being infected but I want to read these comic now to see what happens next On 6:23 for me Shadow looks cute when he was looking at his hand being infected
so much for my theary regarding shadow being the cure. I guess the only cure now could be the boost wisps yackers our only hope we lost shadow its not fair black arms DNA failed us.
Ian could make a twist and have Shadow recover on his own from the virus and his body was just slow acting in helping him since it was completely foreign disease of artificial nature. Or he'll just get anti-bodies after being cured assuming Eggman ever tries to use something like that again.
because HE CAN'T FUCKEN RUN HE SKATES LOOOL AND HE SAID THAT TO HIDE HIS WEAKNESS .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. also he thought he couldn't get infected because of how he was made as stated in the video
Y'know, if shadow did just suck up his pride and started top-speed running to burn the infection off himself, he might've been there to help Sonic and Silver since he'd prob be in a similar condition to Sonic, though maybe slightly better since he might have a less adapted infection.
Also little detail but that map Cream drew at the beginning of the issue, that’s going to be at the beginning of every issue and updated until the virus is over. Maybe the repeats will be pushed aside next issue since it’s a two parter so things probably won’t get too repetitive. See you for your Tangle and Whisper #1 review next week.
How did they turn shadow to such an idiot hyper edge lord ??? I've seen a comment which said that the real reason shadow didn't run could be because he was surrounded and thought that if he tried to run he would get rouge and omega hurt and that they might get the virus.l,but he just used the I'm not a coward thing as a cover up. I would really like it if this was true,but i reall don't think they have put much thought into it.
if that's the case, then it's a real shame that shadow doesn't have some kind of, chaos energy teleportation to get to a safe location, or rocket shoes that let him fly up and hover in the air, or some kind of chaos energy explosion to use, yup, there's absolutely nothing he could've done to escape the zombots/s.
@@alimowla3204 ANd its not like this entire situation would have been completely avoidable in the first place by using energy or weapon based long range attacks to prevent such a thing to happen in the first place. Truly a shame that it had to come to this.
@@rynobehnke8289 well he did use his chaos spears (see? 4:24), BUT the same chaos spears that were originally strong enough to take metal sonic out of his super form, are now......doing jack and shit......okay.
@@alimowla3204 The Zombots really are only as strong as the story needs them to be really. In one panel can Amy make a massiv dent into one and in the next can all of Gemerl's fire power not make even a tiny dent. One moment can Sonic casually get rid of a horde of Zombots in just one Sonic Heavy(from Sonic Battle) and the next can shadow not even move when put into an identical situation. But yes the Zombots are really badly power scaled which is one of the big problems when it comes to the tensions of the arc (others being moronic characters, Sonic's ability to run them off despite having by comparison to Amy, Cream, Knuckles and Shadow far worse regenerative abilities (as shown in both the lore of the games as well in Sonic Battles heal skills) being not explained at all and not of the tech guy's (Tails, Wave maybe if he exist Dr. Fukurokov and if Free Riders is to be taken seriously Cream (even through the map at the start of the issue shows very much that Ian ignores Cream's in that game established technical skills) working on a cure so far The pacing that so far is a one to one copy of the previous story complete with Shadow battle in part 2 of a 2 part story like in the Neo Metal Sonic arc.(seriously even Sailor moon has better seasonal pacing) This story is just dump Also because I already mentioned it and its actually relevant for these story tension would I like to mention that Cream's map actually causes some problems by showing locations from Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic Battle on it both are supposedly happening on the human world which causes so many problems that Forces also already had with Team Darks treatment in the story (episode Shadow in particular) and really ask the questions where are the United Federations Reinforcements? Especially given that Eggman's plan this time even is to first transform this world and than have his slaves build weapons for him to conquer other worlds. Sorry for going on so long already again but it really bothers me.
I like our reviews. Ok, now I see is going repetitive, but sometimes I see other games, cartoons, movies and comics that sometimes I forget to see the problems in ever media, combined that I don't know how to make a good script. But I see many good reviews to see where you can improve the script, no reviews that they hate for no reason or that their reasons have nothing to do with media in general. But I admited that Shadow is being a jeckass in this continuity. I miss that personality in Sonic 2006.
Honestly this comic really felt rushed. It honestly felt like they were trying to get Shadow infected as fast as possible just so we could start the next comic out with a Sonic vs. Shadow fight. I will be fair in saying I’m always for seeing these two rivals duke it out but not at the cost of there established character. We know Shadow is smarter then this, this feels less like his ego hitting him in the face and more like rushed writing. This is a two part comic for heaven sakes. And I know you can only fit so much in a comic but come on surly there’s a way they can write this that doesn’t involve butchering there established character. Also good video can’t wait for you to review issue 20 when it’s out
James says, "That was a decent IDW review, yeah, things just get darker and uglier as the Metal Virus saga continues onward. I am surprised this was on the table for the Archie Sonic series just prior to the cancellation of 2017, you're getting more and more interesting and fun to watch as time goes by. I just wonder what the future has in store for the IDW comic as time passes and what other scrapped Archie Sonic concepts might make it into the IDW comic. "See you later." -James M
*Rouge the Bat:* It's... It's so unfair! Shadow's always here to defend the world! Despite that! *E-123 Omega:* Eventually, when something or someone is seen as too powerful... It is seen as a threat, (points at Shadow) and then the world becomes its enemy.
Why didn’t he just use Chaos blast? Why don’t you just can’t control all the civilians away? If you can do it to the space colony ark he can you can do it to a couple civilians.
@@comicfan1324 true, why he didn't use that power? shadow did do that chaos Blast move on gun soldiers and black aliens in shadow the hedgehog (game), he does have chaos power. Why he didn't use on civilians as zombot when they overwhelmed him in sonic comic idw issue 19. It me or It see kind force make shadow be zombot in this issuse? 😐🤨🤔
It’d be interesting to see how Sonic reacted if Tails were to get infected. Seeing how Tails faired without Sonic I think flipping the roles could be cool. It could be enough to emotionally break Sonic like Eggman seems to be trying to do.
You know? When I first read this I though Shadow is going to be cool like Leon s Kennedy from Resident Evil in this IDW comic but yeah, as we see right now.
@@oscarm1258 Just to bad that human locations already stated to pop up in the annual. (more so if we count Cream's map from the start of the issue which shows central city and Tails Adventure era workshop (and I believe also Sonic Battle's house for Tails in the previous issue))
Frost/Frostbite The Hobidon CJ Yeah but I kinda feel like Eggman, if he could control Zombot Sonic, would immediately have him promoted, probably to gloat, and Metal’s ego and hatred of Sonic would make him want to fight. Also, if he does get fully infected, Sonic will probably manage to beat it through the true superpower of teamwork.
Seeing this unfold the way it did, things are getting tense. It did well as a small shocker, hindered by repetition. Shadow's hubris and misunderstanding of Sonic's meaning behind "running it off" ultimately proved fruitless. Shadow being a casualty makes sense because he is only able to withstand biological diseases, not largely artificial ones. Sonic's resolve was really tested after getting talked down by Shadow, calling him out for his actions. Recalling the previous issues, shadow's argument has some ground. Not to mention that sonic was thinking about the game cast casualties. Speaking of which: Sonic beginning to get exhausted was inevitable. But given the impressions for the next issue, Sonic is likely to fall to the virus. He knows he can't fight it forever, and given the literal swarm of zombots, those will likely do him in.
I still wonder why he even still thinks that? I dont see how's he ultimate compared to the other characters...he needs rocket skates to almost match sonic's speed, chaos spear? Silver and Blaze have energy attacks, and whisper has a wisp gun but she doesnt claim to be ultimate sniper.
Shadow is like a sayian in a sonic character skin, he can increase his stats and base sonic type skills via chaos energy which he access more than any sonic character even remove his limiters to gain more power. Making him pretty much the strongest character, he's power multiplying version of all the characters you listed plus hes immortal.
Pissed off at Sonic for letting Eggman live and freeing Metal Sonic ? Yes, absolutely Acting like a complete moron, ignoring common sense and spewing bullshit like "Hur dur Ultimate Life Form" "I don't run, I ain't no coward".... That's just bad characterization, and I want to believe that was a Sega Mandate and not a Ian's decision to make his character behave like that
@@newdawnhorizon9879 Actually it's mostly because of Sega as they have to approve the story and art of each issue and until it satisfies them, changes have to be made.
I don’t like how Shadow acts but I guess them not explaining to him how running will help against the virus kinda jutifice this, tho him being the ultimate life from and therefore shouldn’t be able to get it infected because he was made to cure should’ve been explained better, Shads just sounds too arrogant and egotistical here imo
Fun Fact: From the Sonic wikia page on the "Metal Virus", Ian originally planned for this in the Archie Sonic comics around the 300's if it didn't ended so suddenly and abruptly.
Overaching aesop of this arc: -When trouble comes afoot, society will often attempt to find someone to put the blame on. -Even if something bad happens, it isn’t anyone’s fault since nothing is in our control.
At first i was bothered why didn't sonic just go after Eggman and quickly stop this? Then I realized, WE know eventually everyone will be okay, but for Sonic and the others, they have no idea if there even is a cure for this. This might be permanent, and they're making sure everyone is safe until they make a counter attack
Am I the only one who feels Shadow was at least SOMEWHAT out of character here? He turned his Vegeta dial up too much when, at least in my eyes, he's comparatively more level headed and not all 'The Ultimate Life Form never backs down!'.
Shadows out of character level brock my scouter here its ridicules outside of Boom was Shadow only in Team Sonic Racing being written this badly in like EVER. Even his most dickish behavior from Rivals and free Rider can't even compare to this non-sense.
It’s hurts more when you realize he was written right in the other issues he was in. How do you mess up this bad after doing it good the first few times?!
@@melodysmusicaladventures596 I don't know even before in IDW was he never written all that well. While I can get behind him wanting to Kill Eggman when we first see him (even through his aggressive behavior would suggest that he learned nothing out of Battle and Rivals 1) but by the time we reach the Metal fight things just go off the rails with Shadow without telling anyone just going of script for no reason other than to have his Movie Vegeta moment against Metal were he shows off ones than than gets merciless beaten into the ground and makes things actually worse. But this comic just brock the camels back.
I actually have an Sonic IDW oc that has an relation on Shadow becoming an Zombot Edit: I think that all those sucky things Shadow has done will catch up to him, like with IDW Grimlock. (My oc is the one that catches Shadow up on screwing up)
The ultimate life plz i know reality would get shadow and now hes infected he reminds me of vegeta a little and this is getting so good what can sonic do now when he faces infected shadow and the zombot
In any case, the gist is that Shadow is a character that requires more nuance and subtlety to write, since the entire foundation of the character is based on nuance and subtlety. It's why people (particularly older fans) have such an issue with him. He really doesn't fit in with the simplistic atmosphere of the current era. Knuckles for example doesn't require as much context because his character isn't as context heavy as Shadow. And even then he required some context given his role is meant to be a stationary one.
So since neither of their roles and nuances fit within the current simplistic and lighthearted era; they're stripped of all nuances and reduced to their most basic traits. Knuckles is the guy who punches things, and Shadow is the angry hotheaded rival.
Ok so I picked up the comic series literally yesterday, and I binged all of them, from 1-19. And I was so MCPISSED to FINALLY get into the comics only to stop reading on a cliffhanger. Oh well. I consider myself a fan now.
Everybody’s gangsta until Shadow shows up in an 18-wheeler
Shadow fast and furious style
And now I can't help but imagine Shadow being the one who drove the GUN truck back in SA2 during his own escape from the city while wondering "Who is this blue idiot who keep running in front of THIS?"
I'm just going to say this, Archie's Shadow seemed like he was smarter than this...
ian is a hack
@@newdawnhorizon9879 You a penders fanboy?
@@JessePrower don't go acussing me of being a penders fanboy just because I don't like the way Ian writes
@@newdawnhorizon9879 He's nowhere near the same league as the likes of James Goss and Robert Sheerman, but he's not bad.
@@slateoffate9812 he's a hack and a liar plain and simple
Shadows "Vegeta" was showing in full effect here
Goku: "Vegeta listing You need to run before Freezer's mind control take over"
Vegeta: "I don't run Clown. I'm the Prince of all Saiyan. I Fight"
Freezer is a TFS Reference
It's worth noted that the artist, Jack Lawrence, had to wear wrist brace from drawing more than 580 background zombots in this issue. So, give the issue some credits, will ya?
Zoe Kitty true
You slightly changed my mind about how Shadow got infected, him not knowing WHY he should run and the virus being able to affect all living lifeforms.
he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
@@3mar00ss6 It doesn't matter. His speed would still be able to burn it off. Shadow also assumed that he couldn't get infected because of his disease immune body but he was wrong.
I actually beliefed he couldn't get effected either. He is probably immune to all diseases, so he assumed this was just another disease.
But like MBR said, it's turning organic lifeforms metal
Things just went from bad to worse. Shadow is one of the powerhouses of this franchise and being affected was one of the things I was afraid it could happened. Damn, that ego of his was his downfall, and he paid the price for not listening his friends; we all know he wouldn't listen to Sonic, but at least Rouge he would.
There's got to be a reason this issue is a 2-part'er: Zombot Shadow is on the loose (does he retain his powers?), Sonic and Omega are the only ones capable of fighting this thread and my only hope is that we finally have a breakthrough on a cure for this menace
In one of the leaked covers of the future issues, it shows Shadow in his normal form with Rouge and Omega holding on a door to prevent zombots from getting in. So my guess is that in the nest issue Sonic and Omega will find a way to cure Shadow. Mabye in their fight, Sonic starts to run and zombot Shadow chases him with high speed and that causes his infection to go away for a while
@@imanobody7911 Sorry, but what you're describing is actually the RI Cover of this issue
Can i say something, i actually saw this coming once i read the solictation,so i figured shadow would be infected
The only thing Sonic is to blame for is repairing Metal Sonic in the hope that the robot lives his life however he chooses to. Only for it to then backfire and Metal Sonic to find Mr Tinker and destroy him shortly before bringing Dr Eggman back to life.
Yeah, this is becoming a bit repetitive.
Ian Flynn makes mistakes but although I don't like some of his ideas I must admit that he knows how to write good moments of tension in his stories.
MegaNinten 007 he is able to show more escalation at least
@@carlbloke8797 You are right.
Still better than anything Pontac and Graff could make for this kind of story.
@Daniel von Strangle Even for Charmy its a stretch given that he was during the prison island level in Shadow the hedgehog far less stupid and directly fallowed Vectors orders assuming he knows what he talks about.
I at least can't remember charmy encouraging me to jump into the radioactive sludge for beat up more Black Arms to help gun.
And Obviously its much worse for Shadow.
But hey even Eggman lost his mind in the last issue because mister Ivo "after plan B do I still have Plans C and D to fall back on" Robotnik as he showed in Adventure 1,2 , battle heck even in Forces does here nothing after his robots stop obeying him. That not my Eggman to be sure.
And Whats even up with them sending Sonic around the globe when he with his ability to fight it back should be under a scanner at tails workshop so that he can find a cure.
Seriously the Characters here get dumber by the issues.
@Daniel von Strangle
The Shadow thing is apparently because of Sega vetoing his original idea to have Shadow unleash his inhibitors and use the energy output to hold off the virus because they wanted Shadow as an overconfident Vegeta-type character.
According to Ian Flynn, when someone asked him about it, he explained that the original plan was for Shadow to unlock his inhibitor rings and instead use the energy output from those to combat the infection as an alternative to running, which is a significantly less stupid idea, but Sega vetoed it, as they wanted Shadow's characterization to be written in a specific way (aka overconfident jerk rival, ala Vegeta).
7:11-7:16 I miss Mephiles.
He was one of the best Sonic villains.
Shadow was like Vegeta in this story.
I would like a Metal Skin Mod for him in SA2 to be honest.
D Heine he a super sayian character from dragonball z
Shadow: The Ultimate Clown
He's not a clown... he's the entire circus
@@kingjiggle4th789- And the award for the best comment and response goes to...
@@kingjiggle4th789 🤣🤣🤣 You sir are now Valid Victorian.
Kenneth Gissel thank you
he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
Also, after thinking about it, it just occured to me: If we were to split the cast into specfic teams, a pattern emerges.
Team Chaotix: Charmy gets infected due to his inability to deal with a victim being left behind.
Team Rose: Companions Cheese and Chocola get infected protecting their friends.
Team Dark: Shadow goes down due to his hubris and misunderstanding of Sonic's words.
Team Sonic: Sonic is infected, but has so far staved off complete corruption, but that may chance considering issue 19 and 20, as well as those afterward.
All things considered, I believe that after being infected, and the virus mutates beyond control, the aforementioned individuals (Sonic may fall into this catagory) will try to find someone they remeber prior to their infection, only it isn't out of worry.
When shadow realized he could be infected why didn't he run?
He kept beating a dead horse(s?) this whole chapter
Shadow is 100% not a idiot
he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video..
@@3mar00ss6 His skating functions the same way as Sonic rolling around at the speed of whatever the fuck he decides to run at, so i don't see the point in.. pointing that out.
@@aircall2065 like Sega could just use it as an exuse to that utter joke of a situation we had there (⌐■-■)
"shadow was hiding his weakness infront of sonic" is way better than "shadow is stupid arrogant and immature" don't you agree...
Shadow thought he was invincible because as the ultimate lifeform he's immune to disease and contagion. He didn't know he could get infected.
"shadow must have driven the truck in SA2"
I'm so worried for Sonic in the entire metal virus arc.
Its the first arc, he's going to be fine.
@@anexplosion5436 I know but the virus on him is getting worse and he's getting tired from running so much.
Anastasia Sobieski You’re not the only one getting worried for him 😥. After seeing that panel of him in his mind saying he’s starting to get tired really made me worried..
@@charfox_draws20 I just hope that he doesn't turn into a zombot and I'm also hoping that he and Omega can contain Shadow before he attacks the people in the truck along with the other zombots.
@@anastasiasobieski3500 will he almost become one on issues 18. When agrue with gemel, but least he run out the virus wash out. Thank goodness he safe😊👍
Shadow's stubborn arrogents got him in trouble
well yes but tbh he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
imagine Zombot Shadow Being "Shadow but he looks like Mephiles"
Hmmmm..... Sunset City being prone to misfortunes......... so basically Station Square from Post-reboot Archie Sonic.
Shadow was an idiot at the end of the episode.
"Don't let the Zombots touch you. If that happens, run at top speed to burn off the infection."
And Shadow, being the Ultimate Life Form, decides to shrug off the advice and the infection and carry on fighting the horde of Zombots until it was too late to do anything to save himself.
And of all the things Sonic is to blame for, letting Mr Tinker live was not one of them. It was repairing Metal Sonic and letting him go to find Dr Eggman (formerly known as Mr Tinker) that caused the Metal Virus incident to occur.
At least Charmy _tried_ to escape after he made the mistake of ignoring Vector's orders to stay put. And I thought the bee had the intelligence and common sense of a breadstick. Shadow, from the very moment he got infected, had the intelligence and common sense of *mashed potatoes* in comparison. ¬_¬
I have a saying that my dad often uses that his mom made, that describes Shadow perfectly in this issue: *ARROGANT-DAFT*. Stupid hedgehog...
If they do manage to beat the metal virus and cure everyone, Sonic immediately has an n-word pass for the rest of time to do whatever teasing he wants to do on Shadow, in my books!
he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
@@fionaredfern7519 n-word pass .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. I'm fucking dying
Shadow didn't know he could get infected, he was made to be immune to stuff like this. Cut him some slack.
Shadow was SO out of character. It was probably the lamest way they could have made him a zombot
Agreed
No shadow has always been a edotrip.
I don't want my pure boy silver to fall victim to... It.
I never imagined Shadow would act this incompetent. Shadow has long since been a humbled character, and has shown some legitimate competence. It's just hard to see him acting this way after being nearly controlled by Doom _twice,_ and getting bested by Sonic on multiple occasions. He should know well by now that he's not invincible.
Even with the flanderization, it's still incredibly jarring to see. And that line "cowards run. I win." Was far more in line with something Vegeta would say than Shadow the Hedgehog. Tbh though, I don't know why I'm surprised. None of these characters really seem to have the complexity and defining traits they once did, and in some cases, have either regressed, or become complete caricatures of themselves. Why exactly is Shadow here in the first place when it was the HUMAN WORLD he promised Maria he would protect?
Seeing Shadow being turned into a Zombot is both heart breaking and infuriating. one of the coolest Sonic characters has been infected due to his own arrogance...
Did Shadow just pull out a "Vegeta act" ?
I'm not complaining or anything.
Poor Shadow, he should’ve known that just because he’s the ultimate lifeform doesn’t mean he’s invincible.
I feel bad for Shadow being infected but I want to read these comic now to see what happens next
On 6:23 for me Shadow looks cute when he was looking at his hand being infected
so much for my theary regarding shadow being the cure. I guess the only cure now could be the boost wisps yackers our only hope we lost shadow its not fair black arms DNA failed us.
Ian could make a twist and have Shadow recover on his own from the virus and his body was just slow acting in helping him since it was completely foreign disease of artificial nature. Or he'll just get anti-bodies after being cured assuming Eggman ever tries to use something like that again.
*Sonic: (to Shadow)* Here dozes the masked clown.
*Me:* Sonic, you're not helping.
Cowards run...I win
Oh boy your so skewed
because HE CAN'T FUCKEN RUN HE SKATES LOOOL AND HE SAID THAT TO HIDE HIS WEAKNESS .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. also he thought he couldn't get infected because of how he was made as stated in the video
he can't fucking run he skates .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•. and he thought he couldn't get infected because of the way he was made as stated in the video
@@3mar00ss6 Skates are NO EXCUSE for what he did. COWARDS HIDE BEHIND SKATES AS A REASON TO NOT MOVE AWAY FROM DOOM. *ZOMBOTS* WIN.
@@bubbykins4864 he was trying to help lol
Y'know, if shadow did just suck up his pride and started top-speed running to burn the infection off himself, he might've been there to help Sonic and Silver since he'd prob be in a similar condition to Sonic, though maybe slightly better since he might have a less adapted infection.
Also little detail but that map Cream drew at the beginning of the issue, that’s going to be at the beginning of every issue and updated until the virus is over. Maybe the repeats will be pushed aside next issue since it’s a two parter so things probably won’t get too repetitive. See you for your Tangle and Whisper #1 review next week.
How did they turn shadow to such an idiot hyper edge lord ???
I've seen a comment which said that the real reason shadow didn't run could be because he was surrounded and thought that if he tried to run he would get rouge and omega hurt and that they might get the virus.l,but he just used the I'm not a coward thing as a cover up.
I would really like it if this was true,but i reall don't think they have put much thought into it.
if that's the case, then it's a real shame that shadow doesn't have some kind of, chaos energy teleportation to get to a safe location, or rocket shoes that let him fly up and hover in the air, or some kind of chaos energy explosion to use, yup, there's absolutely nothing he could've done to escape the zombots/s.
Yea, the plot monster doesn't want that tho.
@@alimowla3204 ANd its not like this entire situation would have been completely avoidable in the first place by using energy or weapon based long range attacks to prevent such a thing to happen in the first place.
Truly a shame that it had to come to this.
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well he did use his chaos spears (see? 4:24), BUT the same chaos spears that were originally strong enough to take metal sonic out of his super form, are now......doing jack and shit......okay.
@@alimowla3204 The Zombots really are only as strong as the story needs them to be really.
In one panel can Amy make a massiv dent into one and in the next can all of Gemerl's fire power not make even a tiny dent.
One moment can Sonic casually get rid of a horde of Zombots in just one Sonic Heavy(from Sonic Battle) and the next can shadow not even move when put into an identical situation.
But yes the Zombots are really badly power scaled which is one of the big problems when it comes to the tensions of the arc (others being moronic characters, Sonic's ability to run them off despite having by comparison to Amy, Cream, Knuckles and Shadow far worse regenerative abilities (as shown in both the lore of the games as well in Sonic Battles heal skills) being not explained at all and not of the tech guy's (Tails, Wave maybe if he exist Dr. Fukurokov
and if Free Riders is to be taken seriously Cream (even through the map at the start of the issue shows very much that Ian ignores Cream's in that game established technical skills)
working on a cure so far
The pacing that so far is a one to one copy of the previous story complete with Shadow battle in part 2 of a 2 part story like in the Neo Metal Sonic arc.(seriously even Sailor moon has better seasonal pacing)
This story is just dump
Also because I already mentioned it and its actually relevant for these story tension would I like to mention that Cream's map actually causes some problems by showing locations from Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic Battle on it both are supposedly happening on the human world which causes so many problems that Forces also already had with Team Darks treatment in the story (episode Shadow in particular) and really ask the questions where are the United Federations Reinforcements? Especially given that Eggman's plan this time even is to first transform this world and than have his slaves build weapons for him to conquer other worlds.
Sorry for going on so long already again but it really bothers me.
Someone should totally do a What If? Video for this arc, only it takes place within the Archie Sonic universe.
wow. War of Forces really changed Shadow into Vegita 2.0 Edit:... well... maybe not Vegita but just "egdy lord"
I like our reviews. Ok, now I see is going repetitive, but sometimes I see other games, cartoons, movies and comics that sometimes I forget to see the problems in ever media, combined that I don't know how to make a good script. But I see many good reviews to see where you can improve the script, no reviews that they hate for no reason or that their reasons have nothing to do with media in general. But I admited that Shadow is being a jeckass in this continuity. I miss that personality in Sonic 2006.
I was SOOOOOOOOOOOO MAD they released that cover before the issue! JUST WAIT A WEEK DARNIT
Honestly this comic really felt rushed. It honestly felt like they were trying to get Shadow infected as fast as possible just so we could start the next comic out with a Sonic vs. Shadow fight. I will be fair in saying I’m always for seeing these two rivals duke it out but not at the cost of there established character. We know Shadow is smarter then this, this feels less like his ego hitting him in the face and more like rushed writing. This is a two part comic for heaven sakes. And I know you can only fit so much in a comic but come on surly there’s a way they can write this that doesn’t involve butchering there established character.
Also good video can’t wait for you to review issue 20 when it’s out
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Huh a zombie apocalypse in a city called sunset city? Sunset overdrive anyone?
James says, "That was a decent IDW review, yeah, things just get darker and uglier as the Metal Virus saga continues onward. I am surprised this was on the table for the Archie Sonic series just prior to the cancellation of 2017, you're getting more and more interesting and fun to watch as time goes by. I just wonder what the future has in store for the IDW comic as time passes and what other scrapped Archie Sonic concepts might make it into the IDW comic.
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*Rouge the Bat:* It's... It's so unfair! Shadow's always here to defend the world! Despite that!
*E-123 Omega:* Eventually, when something or someone is seen as too powerful... It is seen as a threat, (points at Shadow) and then the world becomes its enemy.
4:06 Yo, that's great Shadow impression there,man
Spoilers
Shadow is infected? Well, the Heroes are doomed, there’s no stopping the ultimate lifeform.
Why didn’t he just use Chaos blast? Why don’t you just can’t control all the civilians away? If you can do it to the space colony ark he can you can do it to a couple civilians.
@@comicfan1324 true, why he didn't use that power? shadow did do that chaos Blast move on gun soldiers and black aliens in shadow the hedgehog (game), he does have chaos power. Why he didn't use on civilians as zombot when they overwhelmed him in sonic comic idw issue 19. It me or It see kind force make shadow be zombot in this issuse? 😐🤨🤔
It’d be interesting to see how Sonic reacted if Tails were to get infected. Seeing how Tails faired without Sonic I think flipping the roles could be cool. It could be enough to emotionally break Sonic like Eggman seems to be trying to do.
I'm glad you didn't give shit because the way Shadow was written unlike on Twitter and Tumblr because to me it makes sense that he would act this way.
You know? When I first read this I though Shadow is going to be cool like Leon s Kennedy from Resident Evil in this IDW comic but yeah, as we see right now.
So no humans in this world? Then where did Eggman come from. I don't Human's being in the sonic world as long as they're in the background.
The comic said they were planning to have humans in 2 world collide.
@@oscarm1258 Just to bad that human locations already stated to pop up in the annual.
(more so if we count Cream's map from the start of the issue which shows central city and Tails Adventure era workshop (and I believe also Sonic Battle's house for Tails in the previous issue))
I kinda hope Sonic gets fully infected, just to see Zombot Sonic vs Metal Sonic.
true but if Sonic gets fully infected, that mean Eggman wins
Frost/Frostbite The Hobidon CJ Yeah but I kinda feel like Eggman, if he could control Zombot Sonic, would immediately have him promoted, probably to gloat, and Metal’s ego and hatred of Sonic would make him want to fight.
Also, if he does get fully infected, Sonic will probably manage to beat it through the true superpower of teamwork.
Btw, has anyone seen the second cover to this, they have a few zombots that look like rotor and elias, I got this issue twice for that cover man~
Love to see someone reviewing this comic series
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What do you mean by the two world's thing? What does it mean for the humans?
5:55 A.K.A Beeing bassicly Vegeta
Seeing this unfold the way it did, things are getting tense. It did well as a small shocker, hindered by repetition. Shadow's hubris and misunderstanding of Sonic's meaning behind "running it off" ultimately proved fruitless.
Shadow being a casualty makes sense because he is only able to withstand biological diseases, not largely artificial ones.
Sonic's resolve was really tested after getting talked down by Shadow, calling him out for his actions. Recalling the previous issues, shadow's argument has some ground. Not to mention that sonic was thinking about the game cast casualties.
Speaking of which: Sonic beginning to get exhausted was inevitable. But given the impressions for the next issue, Sonic is likely to fall to the virus. He knows he can't fight it forever, and given the literal swarm of zombots, those will likely do him in.
I have never clicked on a notification as fast as I have when this came up on my feed.
I still wonder why he even still thinks that? I dont see how's he ultimate compared to the other characters...he needs rocket skates to almost match sonic's speed, chaos spear? Silver and Blaze have energy attacks, and whisper has a wisp gun but she doesnt claim to be ultimate sniper.
I mean he was created to be the ultimate lifeform by gerald
Shadow is like a sayian in a sonic character skin, he can increase his stats and base sonic type skills via chaos energy which he access more than any sonic character even remove his limiters to gain more power. Making him pretty much the strongest character, he's power multiplying version of all the characters you listed plus hes immortal.
I hope Sonic gets infected fairly soon. I've been waiting for it to happen for a while, and honestly I'm surprised it hasn't yet.
You know, a lot of people say Sega has ruined Shadow for them. How did they not ruin him for you?
I'm so enticed for anthor IDW sonic! I haven't goten a chance to go to the comic book shop yet ( waiting to T&W 1 )
Shadow being pissed 😡 off at Sonic is very justified.
Avery Merrick a world without an Eggman is just Archie Sonic 51 - 72.
Pissed off at Sonic for letting Eggman live and freeing Metal Sonic ? Yes, absolutely
Acting like a complete moron, ignoring common sense and spewing bullshit like "Hur dur Ultimate Life Form" "I don't run, I ain't no coward".... That's just bad characterization, and I want to believe that was a Sega Mandate and not a Ian's decision to make his character behave like that
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 its ian's decision
@@newdawnhorizon9879 Actually it's mostly because of Sega as they have to approve the story and art of each issue and until it satisfies them, changes have to be made.
@@TheGstar-bz9qf Ian stated that in a bumble kast that sega has given him creative control
I don't watch Dragon Ball much, but from what I've seen, Shadow is basically Vageta in these comics
Rouge is best mom
I don’t like how Shadow acts but I guess them not explaining to him how running will help against the virus kinda jutifice this, tho him being the ultimate life from and therefore shouldn’t be able to get it infected because he was made to cure should’ve been explained better, Shads just sounds too arrogant and egotistical here imo
it's like the Mecha Sally ark. God was that dragged out, and because of it it never got resolved
The reason why it was never resolved is because of Ken Penders.
The metal virus...in the archie comics...just imagine, man...
Fun Fact: From the Sonic wikia page on the "Metal Virus", Ian originally planned for this in the Archie Sonic comics around the 300's if it didn't ended so suddenly and abruptly.
Me: *taps a zombot with metal arm
*I think he's dead.*
Infection in the city, you know you have to hide!
Sega!!! Give back Super Sonic!!! Why are you holding him back!!???
sonic does tell shadow that he should 'run it off' implying that it will slow the infections
Overaching aesop of this arc:
-When trouble comes afoot, society will often attempt to find someone to put the blame on.
-Even if something bad happens, it isn’t anyone’s fault since nothing is in our control.
Omega's train of thought:
If Robot Creator = Eggman
Then:
Eliminate
Shadow is kinda like Vegeta in this issue
First, also loving the metal virus arc
Everyone’s gangster until the horde comes
At first i was bothered why didn't sonic just go after Eggman and quickly stop this?
Then I realized, WE know eventually everyone will be okay, but for Sonic and the others, they have no idea if there even is a cure for this.
This might be permanent, and they're making sure everyone is safe until they make a counter attack
Shadow was created with the sole purpose of curing diseases but was killed off by a disease. IRON-Y.
Godamitt Shadow why you didn't listen
I seen this comic and it was intense.
Am I the only one who feels Shadow was at least SOMEWHAT out of character here? He turned his Vegeta dial up too much when, at least in my eyes, he's comparatively more level headed and not all 'The Ultimate Life Form never backs down!'.
No I fully agree with you
Shadows out of character level brock my scouter here its ridicules outside of Boom was Shadow only in Team Sonic Racing being written this badly in like EVER.
Even his most dickish behavior from Rivals and free Rider can't even compare to this non-sense.
It’s hurts more when you realize he was written right in the other issues he was in. How do you mess up this bad after doing it good the first few times?!
@@melodysmusicaladventures596 I don't know even before in IDW was he never written all that well.
While I can get behind him wanting to Kill Eggman when we first see him (even through his aggressive behavior would suggest that he learned nothing out of Battle and Rivals 1) but by the time we reach the Metal fight things just go off the rails with Shadow without telling anyone just going of script for no reason other than to have his Movie Vegeta moment against Metal were he shows off ones than than gets merciless beaten into the ground and makes things actually worse.
But this comic just brock the camels back.
The only thing I have to say about this issue is Shadows ego. He seriously prefered to play tough boy than save himself.
I actually have an Sonic IDW oc that has an relation on Shadow becoming an Zombot
Edit: I think that all those sucky things Shadow has done will catch up to him, like with IDW Grimlock.
(My oc is the one that catches Shadow up on screwing up)
I guess Ian heard my comment about Sonic getting tired,huh?😏
Huh that's interesting
No!?!?
Robin McCormack
Haha! YES!!
Ironically in a Sonic Boom ep Sonic says "I don't get tired!"
Snaaaaap
Ironically that is sonic boom throwing jokes, as usual.
If only megaman was here to help ☹
The Sonic/Mega Man crossovers never happened in IDW buddy.
@Keith Holder That would be cool but it isn't possible.
Poor Shadow, I felt bad for him.
The ultimate life plz i know reality would get shadow and now hes infected he reminds me of vegeta a little and this is getting so good what can sonic do now when he faces infected shadow and the zombot
In any case, the gist is that Shadow is a character that requires more nuance and subtlety to write, since the entire foundation of the character is based on nuance and subtlety. It's why people (particularly older fans) have such an issue with him. He really doesn't fit in with the simplistic atmosphere of the current era.
Knuckles for example doesn't require as much context because his character isn't as context heavy as Shadow. And even then he required some context given his role is meant to be a stationary one.
So since neither of their roles and nuances fit within the current simplistic and lighthearted era; they're stripped of all nuances and reduced to their most basic traits. Knuckles is the guy who punches things, and Shadow is the angry hotheaded rival.
Bravo
Hey megabeatman, wanna review my comic of mega man on deviantart? It's mega man issue 56. I'm recontinueing the Archie Mega man comics.
Oooh Shadow voice!
I hope IDW Sonic shows a bit of Archie Sonic’s power.
-w- Welp, Shadow has Pride and that somewhat cost him.
honestly, I'm not a huge fan of the whole "zombie apocalypse" arc that's being used. It's a bit too dark in my opinion
I’m honestly fine with no humans in this series
Welp, we're boned!
Nintendo is known for being repetetive and look how that turned out for them.
ZOMBOTIFIED VICTIMS (SO FAR):
ROUGH
TUMBLE
CHARMY
CHEESE
CHOCOLA
SHADOW
After sonic gets fully infected I hope Amy gets it as well.
O shadow...ffs
To be child friendly series. This storyline is kind creepy
Dammit shadow
Damn it shadow!! XD
Shadow pulled a vegeta
Ok so I picked up the comic series literally yesterday, and I binged all of them, from 1-19. And I was so MCPISSED to FINALLY get into the comics only to stop reading on a cliffhanger. Oh well. I consider myself a fan now.