AVX Mount and ASiair Pro: Settings and GoTo Demo with SkySafari6 Plus.
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2020
- 0:13 Connection
1:17 Initialization of AVX Mount
2:35 Serial Connection Settings and GoTo Demo
6:16 Ethernet Connection Settings and GoTo Demo
8:06 Dangerous Runaway by SkyPortal
Extremely useful. Thank you.
You saved me many hours of research. Thank you fellow astronomer!
Thank you for your warm comment.
Grazie, ottimo video comprensibile per tutte le lingue. Ottima tecnica, grazie anche perché cercavo la maniera di collegare la mia avx ad asiair pro e non ho trovato nulla in rete che mi aiutasse.
Sono felice di aiutarti.
It's really great video.
We will try in the order you created.
I will use AVX, AIR and Sky Portal, watch the video and try it out.
I wonder if it will work.
Thank you.
We can see that ASiair's Station mode is working on the screen near 4:08 in this video. In this screen, Celestron-866 is the SSID of Celestron WiFi module.
That's right.
Can this work without the Celestron Wifi Module?
@@fpanadero2626 You don't need Celestron WiFi module. However, SkySafari6 plus cannot be used.
@@masaschumit1502 ok, so skyfari won't work even though the mount is connected via usb/handcontroller to AsiAir?
@@fpanadero2626 SkySafari is a mobile phone app, so the Celestron WiFi module is required for SkySafari to communicate with the AVX mount.
Hi there. I recently bought an ASIAIR Pro and I have a Celestron Advanced VX mount. My problem is connecting the USB ASIAIR Pro to the tiny phone jack on the AVX hand controller. So my question is, do you need a special cable, IE RS232 to phone jack, which Celestron sells, then going from RS232 to USB which I have that cable? I also have a Star Sense hand controller which has a usb out on the bottom, but the ASIAIR Pro only recognizes it for a second then it freezes up. I have a email into their support but have not heard back yet. Also, what is the advantage of having the Celestron WiFi when the ASIAIR Pro already has a GoTo function? It is another $120 US, so before I go out and spend that was curious if there is really an advantage to having that as well. So far your video is the only one I can find on the subject of connecting these two products so thank you. I might make one just on the cable connection if I can get it to work! Any suggestions would be appreciated and thanks for the great video!!
Hi, thank you for your comment. The Hand Controller you own seems to be an old type. The current Hand Controller does not have a tiny phone jack, but is a mini USB terminal. Moreover, RS232C conversion is not required. A realistic solution might be to buy a new type of Hand Controller.
I also don't think we need a WiFi connection using Celestron WiFi. We are able to achieve our goal with a serial connection.
However, if we want to use SkySafari at the same time, we need the Celestron WiFi module.
Good luck.
@@masaschumit1502 I do have the Star Sense controller with the mini usb, however when I connect that to the ASIAIR Pro, it doesn't always recognize my mount. It might be a software issue. Funny ZWO recommended your video to watch! I am going to try a few other things to see if I can get it to work. Thank you for your quick response.
I didn't understand . Was the ASI AIR software on the phone / tablet a separate one from the one running the ASI Pro ?
Hi, dude. If I got you right. This "wifi connection" is working during the USB connected? Am I right? If yes, it just a bullshit, because the main idea is remover one more wire
Very interested in your video as I have been trying to do likewise (unsuccessfully) with my telescope kit. I am using a Celestron 9.25EdgeHd but otherwise have the same ZWO equipment. I am using a SkySafari wifi unit which I can separately operate the mount. The connectivity via ASIAIR is similar to you and can operate the main and guide cameras. Also I have got the mount (CGEM) connected via rs232 to the ASIAIR.
This is where I then falter as I cannot get Safari Pro on my IPAD to work together with the ASIAIR both on my iPad.
I have tried to follow your video but still a bit confused.
Are you using just one iPhone?
Does Safari app use (SkyPortal or other connected Wi-Fi unit) WiFi link or via ASIAIR WiFi link.
Your help would be appreciated.
Hello! I'm using Android. In the case of Android, I can connect with one or two conditions. I haven't run any iOS exams. According to my friend's information, he was able to connect to one Android and one iOS condition, but he couldn't connect to two iOS. Of course, I don't use any special software related to SkySafari.
Thanks for your reply and the information included.
Great video, but a little confused. I don’t know why do you have to set station mode in AAP and connected to celestron wifi. Seems that everything should work fine without it.
Connecting to Celestron WiFi in station mode is only for SkySafari to work. Therefore, as you pointed out, no station mode connection required. for normal operation.
@@masaschumit1502 From my understanding, Skysafari just connected to 10.0.0.1(IP of AAP) at port 4030. AAP then works as proxy to the AVX that previously connected by serial port. So no need for station mode from AAP to Celestron wifi too. And I presume that in the part that you connected AAP to itself(10.0.0.1) on port 4030, it also work with the same reason. That’s means if serial connection cannot be made or disconnected during anytime proxy is working. You should not be able to communicate to the mount anymore.
Actually, I tried to connect my AAP to my nexstar 6SE mount. Your video gave me a good concept of connection. But unfortunately, serial connection from AAP to my mount cannot be established.
What in my mind is that, Is there any method AAP can connect directly to the mount via Ethernet(wifi) without serial cable connected. From my investigation, Celestron wifi itself use port 2000 to accept remote connection not 4030 as in AAP.
And station mode is required for this method in order for the AAP to connect the mount using IP address of the celestron wifi( 1.2.3.4 is what I found on my Celestron Skyportal wifi module).
Skysari can directly connect to the mount using this IP without problem( choose telescope as Celestron Wifi). But with AAP, there is no Celestron Wifi in the telescope list. I still not successfully connect the AAP directly to the mount through Wifi module this way.
You can just use "last alignment"
When initialising the AVX mount if you are not actually doing an accurate one star alignment why not just choose 'Quick Alignment' which avoids having to select a star and slewing. Isn't this 'initialisation' just to start sidereal tracking on the mount ? Once tracking is started all the Gotos can be performed using ASIAIR's plate-solving capability
Thank you for your specific guidance.
I'm deciding to buy celestron series astro fi has wifi built in. I want to ask if this model can connect to wifi with zwo asi air pro and skysafari. If you can, how do you do it? Will it be like this video clip? Your video is the only one I can find about connecting these two products. please advise
If the celestron fi has a usb connection terminal, it will be easy to connect, but if it does not have that terminal, it will be difficult.
@@masaschumit1502 The mount includes multiple ports, including two aux ports (RJ-12), one of which can be used for an optional hand controller. Can this connector be used to connect to asiaair pro? If so, please advise how to connect.
@@rojpongmaneeroj9546 The multiple ports on the Pi mount look the same as those on the AVX mount. For AVX mounts, connect to ASIair through the mini USB port on your hand controller. If the optional hand controller on the Pi mount has a USB port, you'll be happy.
@@masaschumit1502 How about if I use RJ-12 mount to USB asiair without going through hand controller, will it work or not? Thank Masa Schumit I will continue to watch your new video clips.
@@rojpongmaneeroj9546 I think it is essential to have a USB connection through the hand controller. There should be an important function in the hand controller to control the mount.
I though you can only run the AVX with the ASI air via a mini USB cable to the remote... What is this serial connection you speak of?
As you know, there are two ways to control AVX mounts in ASiair: serial and Ethernet. Serial is a USB connection as you mentioned, and the ethernet method is a WiFi connection.
I just want to make sure I understand you AVX mount and ASIAIR startup. Unlike the Astroblender youTube in which he will power up the AVX hand mount with hand controller to the initial scrolling prompt screen, then power up the ASIAir, connect the app and then go through the fake alignment on the handset your method is to do the fake alignment so now the Advanced VX appears on the screen then turn on ASIAir. I've been using Astroblender's method but the GO TO function of my ASIAIR Plus V2.1.1 10-74 is not reliable. I use an C8 with my AVX mount. I have used my ASI585MC and Nikon D5100 in both native and with a 6.3 focal reducer. I never know after coming out of Polar Alignment mode on ASIAir (I've focused prior to polar alignment) whether the GO To feature will work. Sometimes it doesn't go in the right direction of a star or it heads in the right direction but is off but close then as it retries it will make a big correction change and head away from the target. I give up in frustration and restart the mount and ASIAir and then it will start working. I'll be able to go to 3 or 4 stars and they'll center, Jupiter, and a faint nebula. I even set up a imaging session for an hour on M77 unguided and the AVX kept the target in center the whole time. The next night ASIAir couldn't find anything. It would be nice if ZWO would publish a startup procedure for all hand control mounts. I will try your method.
The AVX equatorial mount is now a classic equatorial mount. This is because to connect to ASiair, false alignment and other initialization is required. If you turn on ASiair after the initialization, GoTo and plate solving may go well. I don't have my AVX equatorial mount with me at the moment, so I can't confirm this, but I think it will work with ASiair version 2.1 as well.
from what I understand, there's no way to completely get rid of the Hand controler by the skyportal and avoid the fake alignment before connecting to Asiair? If I want to use Asiair only , there's no use to use the skyportal from want I undersatnd?
My understanding is that skyportal and skysafari are parallel, with skysafari having better services. Perhaps skyportal is not updated enough. Nowadays, ASiair has upgraded and skysafari is no longer needed.
I'm confused about connecting asiajr to skyportal. Do you connect in direct mode or station (access) mode? It doesn't look like you ever put in your wifi network ip address but only use the default ip address of skyportal. , I can connect skyportal and skysafari, and skysafari and asiair, but not asiair to skyportal.
Sorry for the video that confuses you. The connection with SkyPortal is connected to Celestron WiFi. It's practically not connected to Asiair, so it's useless. However, since it can be easily connected to SkyPotal, I introduced the video for the purpose of calling attention to the danger of mount runaway.
@@masaschumit1502 so does that mean that you still can connect your mount to asiair using the skyportal then.? All I'm trying to do is eliminate the wired connection between mount and asiar. Great video BTW and music too,
I don't understand why your SkySafari 6+ looks like SkyPortal. My SS6+ doesn't have the Celestron logo/settings button on the scope popup, but my SkyPortal does. What am I missing here? I checked my SS 5 Pro and SS 4 Pro as well, and setting the scope as a Celestron AVX... doesn't make any difference.
Does Celestron's telescope appear in the ss6 + telescope type pop-up menu? Why isn't Celestron's telescope type? I don't understand either.
@@masaschumit1502 yes it does appear in the settings’ list of telescopes. The Celestron logo doesn’t show up on the telescope controls when the scope is selected, though. In SkyPortal, you can click the Celestron logo on the left of the scope controls to get to the specific scope settings. The logo doesn’t appear in SkySafari + (at least not mine).
I see the Celestron logo in your video when you start up SkySafari.
great tutorial but shit music .-)
thanks