Personally I don't understand why so many 125 bikes don't use the maximum permitted learner power of 15bhp a lot are only around 12bhp but with so little available I'd have thought making use of it would be a sales point 🤷🏻♂️
Moto brands are labelling 15 HP as premium models within tha A1 market, i don't think they see these bikes as learner specific but more A1 and don't forget you still need to pass the standard test for A1, whereas the lower 9-12 HP are built to a price mainly to attract new riders, if I was still a learner I wouldn't be paying 4k on a Moto, I would be looking at 2k max.
@@kevindarkstar yes many people forget that A1 is a category license in itself, yes you can ride the same bikes on CBT but you will not be doing the same type of riding where the added performance is necessary such as on motorways and quicker roads. Most 15HP bikes are aimed at the top end of this category and not learner CBT riders, who for the most part get about at city speeds, of course you are always going to get the overly confident ones who want to hit the rev limiter each ride, but learners are not really encouraged to ride like this.
@@GillyBikes A1 is a great option if you are not fussed for power, what people forget is that you can take the A1 on the same 125 if you have bought one during your CBT, so at this stage it is a matter of just passing the test rather than paying for loads of lessons on a big bike and the need to hire the bike itself which can add up to ££££. People seem to think that the biker community will look down on you, but end of the day if you are not in the biker scene who cares, and ironically my 125 gets a lot of positive attention in a line up due to its cafe racer style more than anything else.
I see the appeal to these. I know a few people that have had them and loved them for a few years before they got something bigger. Looks like a good starter bike.
Not a fan of exhaust pipes exiting high up from under seats . The bright luminous yellow wheels , remind me of the cheap tacky BMX bikes that were fitted with naff plastic wheels . I reckon the other Lexmoto LXR ( I think it’s called ) is a better option than the LXS , & it actually is the best looking 125 sports bike & not bad for the money . I wouldn’t ride any 125 at full throttle top speed for more than the odd short blast , they tend to last longer & will take you any where , if kept to more moderate cruising speeds ,such as 50 mph . 👍
Nice review again mate, If you can get hold of one can you do a test on the Royal Alloy 125 LC, I have got the Air cooled model and it is just not enough for major A roads and duel carriageways, the AC is 9.5bhp but the LC is 13bhp so I could do with one of your tests
Dont bother Mark they have extra bhp and extra weight...mate has lc version and gets blown away by my my address 125 on a road. TBF they look nice but do not presume they are rocket ships. Weight and rider size and weather conditions all effect scooters overall performance. My scoot weighs 105kg with fuel and has little wheels so its a hoot to ride.And thats it for me.
@scooterkev6978 the address is rapid thanks to that really low weight. I tried the 110 and that was as fast as a 125 so the 125 version should be better. Hopefully I will get to try one soon.
I really like your reviews and your style of presentation of tests, Could you possibly do a test on a CFmoto 300NK I'd be interested to hear your opinions as you tell it like it is, they're said to have a KTM engine and the company have got strong connections to Yamaha so it would be very interesting, cheers m8.
@@GillyBikes that's a bit odd, I saw you review on 800 and 650 I just thought it would be interesting to see if the switch gear is good quality the bike looks and sound great if not a bit bizzy or buzzy on a quick blip, they look good tho.
It's no Voges R125 is it, but at the low price and if you just want to take it easy for learning then it does the job. Still, you only need a couple of hundred more and the Voges R125 will set you up nicely for that transition from learning to riding bigger bikes after your test and you'd probably still keep the Voges as a commuter/runaround whereas you'd sell this one on.
My wife learned on a Lexmoto 125, which did the job but run the main bearings just before she passed her test. Early Lemoto 125s only had a gauze oil strainer, not a proper filter, so that coupled with Chinese bearings meant a gay life but a short one. She now has a Honda CMX Rebel 500. (On another planet lol). You pays your money..........
I meant to say the other day , i bet your glad that the HGV that did the ploughing on the grass verge doesnt make a habit of it , the cars passing you don't even seem to give a shite about your stationary postion either 🤬
RPM Police here again 🙂... Been watching back - Is that a slight incline where your changing up to top ( on most of the vids) Another one that cant pull top gear, which makes me wonder. - Top gear is more of an overdrive ? Or is there something else stopping the bike from pulling revs at that point. I reckon if you hadn't have changed there it would have done it. Although as it was clearly slower than the Yamaha - perhaps there was no point!
Personally I don't understand why so many 125 bikes don't use the maximum permitted learner power of 15bhp a lot are only around 12bhp but with so little available I'd have thought making use of it would be a sales point 🤷🏻♂️
Moto brands are labelling 15 HP as premium models within tha A1 market, i don't think they see these bikes as learner specific but more A1 and don't forget you still need to pass the standard test for A1, whereas the lower 9-12 HP are built to a price mainly to attract new riders, if I was still a learner I wouldn't be paying 4k on a Moto, I would be looking at 2k max.
@@Rogueonepigeon well I guess that would explain it 👍🏻
@@kevindarkstar yes many people forget that A1 is a category license in itself, yes you can ride the same bikes on CBT but you will not be doing the same type of riding where the added performance is necessary such as on motorways and quicker roads. Most 15HP bikes are aimed at the top end of this category and not learner CBT riders, who for the most part get about at city speeds, of course you are always going to get the overly confident ones who want to hit the rev limiter each ride, but learners are not really encouraged to ride like this.
@Rogueonepigeon for a first bike I would be the same. Spend more once you have passed your test and can get the big bike 👍
@@GillyBikes A1 is a great option if you are not fussed for power, what people forget is that you can take the A1 on the same 125 if you have bought one during your CBT, so at this stage it is a matter of just passing the test rather than paying for loads of lessons on a big bike and the need to hire the bike itself which can add up to ££££. People seem to think that the biker community will look down on you, but end of the day if you are not in the biker scene who cares, and ironically my 125 gets a lot of positive attention in a line up due to its cafe racer style more than anything else.
Had one of these for 12 months, no complaints at all. Doesn't stand up in overall quality and performance of big brands though.
That was my verdict. As a cheap alternative they are a good option. But you can’t really compare them to the more expensive bikes.
I see the appeal to these. I know a few people that have had them and loved them for a few years before they got something bigger. Looks like a good starter bike.
I agree. A great bike to start with. 👍
Not a fan of exhaust pipes exiting high up from under seats . The bright luminous yellow wheels , remind me of the cheap tacky BMX bikes that were fitted with naff plastic wheels . I reckon the other Lexmoto LXR ( I think it’s called ) is a better option than the LXS , & it actually is the best looking 125 sports bike & not bad for the money . I wouldn’t ride any 125 at full throttle top speed for more than the odd short blast , they tend to last longer & will take you any where , if kept to more moderate cruising speeds ,such as 50 mph . 👍
I think it looks nice, but I prefer that Yamaha you went on ❤
Me too 😎
They look so good but they don’t have the same power or reliability but they good if you just wanted a cheap bike
I think that’s the point with these really. If you can’t afford the top ones then these will do. Not as good, but they will do.
@@GillyBikes 100% true look the part and get you to a…b
Nice review again mate, If you can get hold of one can you do a test on the Royal Alloy 125 LC, I have got the Air cooled model and it is just not enough for major A roads and duel carriageways, the AC is 9.5bhp but the LC is 13bhp so I could do with one of your tests
As soon as I see one in In2moto I will beg for a go on it.
Dont bother Mark they have extra bhp and extra weight...mate has lc version and gets blown away by my my address 125 on a road. TBF they look nice but do not presume they are rocket ships. Weight and rider size and weather conditions all effect scooters overall performance. My scoot weighs 105kg with fuel and has little wheels so its a hoot to ride.And thats it for me.
@scooterkev6978 the address is rapid thanks to that really low weight. I tried the 110 and that was as fast as a 125 so the 125 version should be better. Hopefully I will get to try one soon.
I really like your reviews and your style of presentation of tests,
Could you possibly do a test on a CFmoto 300NK I'd be interested to hear your opinions as you tell it like it is, they're said to have a KTM engine and the company have got strong connections to Yamaha so it would be very interesting, cheers m8.
I will try my best, but I’m not to hopeful. I was using Appleyard motorcycles for my CF moto rides and they don’t even reply to my emails now. 😭
@@GillyBikes that's a bit odd, I saw you review on 800 and 650 I just thought it would be interesting to see if the switch gear is good quality the bike looks and sound great if not a bit bizzy or buzzy on a quick blip, they look good tho.
I would love to try one. Hopefully Appleyard Motorcycles will get back to me and let me try some more bikes. 🤞
It's no Voges R125 is it, but at the low price and if you just want to take it easy for learning then it does the job. Still, you only need a couple of hundred more and the Voges R125 will set you up nicely for that transition from learning to riding bigger bikes after your test and you'd probably still keep the Voges as a commuter/runaround whereas you'd sell this one on.
PS. Still a great informative video though, Kudos.
I agree. I would rather pay the bit extra and get a new Voge r125 👍
Funny thing bout these slow bikes there actually at the legal speed limit
Of course. It will get to the speed limit. Just slower than others.
But its done 10,000 miles, it's lost a few pony's, was the other bikes that high?.
From memory I think the Honda had around 9000 on the clock as well.
never understood why lexmoto have held back the lxr but sold the lxs with a more powerful engine tbh.
My wife learned on a Lexmoto 125, which did the job but run the main bearings just before she passed her test. Early Lemoto 125s only had a gauze oil strainer, not a proper filter, so that coupled with Chinese bearings meant a gay life but a short one. She now has a Honda CMX Rebel 500. (On another planet lol). You pays your money..........
The 500 Rebel is a great bike. 👍 definitely a big step up in class and price.
I meant to say the other day , i bet your glad that the HGV that did the ploughing on the grass verge doesnt make a habit of it , the cars passing you don't even seem to give a shite about your stationary postion either 🤬
RPM Police here again 🙂... Been watching back - Is that a slight incline where your changing up to top ( on most of the vids) Another one that cant pull top gear, which makes me wonder. - Top gear is more of an overdrive ? Or is there something else stopping the bike from pulling revs at that point. I reckon if you hadn't have changed there it would have done it. Although as it was clearly slower than the Yamaha - perhaps there was no point!
If your girlfriend got son it she’s probably not going to be too big at 16😂👍