Blade wasn't a black director , Black writer and notable predominantly black cast so therefore no one cares. It also didn't come out during the time of the 2nd Civil rights movement . So blade wasn't important bc society is dumb
@GRIZY28 "2nd civil rights movement" 😂😂 A movement that resulted in legislation being enacted that actually ended up being racially discriminating. The exact opposite of the intention of the first.
@GRIZY28 nobody cares?! everyone loves Blade. what kind of purple drank you been drinking? 2nd civil rights movement? you mean the commies who bought themselves mansions with the donation money? what kind of grape, obviously grape, kool aid you drank bro?
@@redkev81 the two leads are black and they're killing white vampires.... It may not completely be a black movie but it is a movie about a black guy killing a bunch white bad guys
People straight up ignoring Wesley Snipes as Blade is so disrespectful. Everyone loved Blade, he pretty much saved Marvel and they act like it never happened. Im glad Ryan pulled him into deadpool. No disrespect towards black panther, but it wasnt the first time a black guy to lead a marvel movie.
Black lead isn't the same thing. ???? did you even listen to this video? You could replace Snipes with a white guy and the Blade movie would be mostly unchanged. It's not a "black" movie, there's almost zero black culture in it. Black Panther is on a totally different level, and not to mention a lot of the crew behind the cameras were black also, so it was a big deal
@@Likwidfox well you might fall in the category of reasonable man. I know white men that claim they are not attracted to black women and would never sleep with one lol. We all have our preference but for a man to turn down sex with a beautiful woman cuz of her race shows underlying issues beyond simply a preference 🤣 you might be reasonable but there are ppl that change the channel if a black person is on screen.
@@dinodarko857it won a couple, but I'm guessing they're referring to the best picture nom, which was an absolute joke (I say having enjoyed the movie). But the academy loves fart sniffing pandering, so it tracks.
@@dinodarko857 heavy effects, production design, sound design and scores usually go to big budget blockbusters and they should. Franchises like the MCU have great production design and costumes-basically all the technical awards should go to these films. But a complete film, screenplay, acting, directing, cinematography? They are mostly garbage. BP was no exception.
@ I’m referencing one of his stand-up jokes about how being a history buff and particularly being into American history is the early stages of becoming Republican.
I think Shane was pretty reactionary before he got successful. You can see it in these old clips. He was just more bitter than he is now. Like, this is such a silly thing to be annoyed about. Now days he'd probably laugh about it more instead of venting a misplaced frustration.
I always thought the idea of wakanda was stupid. How are you the most technically gifted civilization in the marvel world but you still have a tribal system of government? And you're fucking using laser spears as a weapon and riding rhinos and shit. It's like a stereotype turned up to 11.
The best black movie is "Friday," hands down. Funny as hell. Highly quotable dialogue. Coherent story with mainstream appeal. Whitey is neither shown nor mentioned, let alone disparaged. The negative stereotypes are rightfully mocked and not glorified. Positive actions are rewarded. I could go on. It's brilliant!
No knock on the film itself, however, "the best black movie" is far from a comedy. YOU just only have the attention span/racial tolerance for black culture in the container of a comedy film. Do The Right Thing or Malcolm X or Boyz N The Hood or Crooklyn are frontrunners for best black movie. Coming to America clears Friday. The "best black movie" either has Denzel in it or is directed by Spike Lee. Thems the rules and I don't make em. Also, shouts to Richard Pryor & Eddie Murphy that paved the way and made a lot of 90s black cinema possible.
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 If you're an angry prick who walks around with a huge chip on your shoulder, maybe, but the rest of us don't enjoy hating other people for their skin color the way you and Spike Lee do.
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 So in order to be a "black movie" it has to feed into your persecution complex and give you an excuse to walk around with a giant chip on your shoulder? Yeah, we're not gonna take you very seriously, I hope that's okay.
He just sitting there with his hands folded. That expression on his face like his grandmom is watching him take a shit. And grading him on it.@frankfranklinson
went to see it in high school with my boys and before it even started a black family came over to us to make sure we were gonna be quiet for the movie for their “experience”. bp mid af
@@forkp5363that’s funny cuz I think they mean to clap back as shitty and with as few words as possible- let’s not read too far into it on this one. Just trust me on this.
@jasonmoore22031 if every Asian was excited for it, then it would have easily made more than a billion dollars. Asians are the largest population in the world.
@@jasonmoore22031 if it was so wildly popular among Asians then it would have easily made more than a billion. Asians are the largest population in the world.
@@jasonmoore22031 also, what kind of measurement is that? "The Asians I know"? What an absurd way to measure the sentiment among all Asians. On top of that, I never said there could not be Asians with weird issues. I said I don't think about movies in that way and anyone that does, including any Asians, has issues.
That’s not the point. It was popular with Asian Americans because they are an under represented group as well. Every black person in Africa didn’t go see black panther because it’s not that big of deal there. But it was real popular with black Americans. It’s not that hard to see.
ikr. i rolled my eyes so hard at that, as if Wakanda couldnt have ended slavery INSTANTLY with their stealth jet, and super plant. For like 1400 years, the African subcontinet was being colonized and all Wakanda did...was watch. They comfortably watched colonization from the comfort of their invisi shield and watched it, like it was Gilligan's Island on TV: "Oh those poor helpless people. Oh well, pass the superplant smoothie let's finish curing spinal injuries."
It's really not hard to understand. Imagine you're a white dude who lived in India your whole life, and all you ever saw was Indian super-hero movies with Indian actors; sure they'd have their token white guy hero, maybe even two of them, but they were never the star and frankly weren't as cool as most of the other Indian super heroes. Then one day, suddenly there's an all-white superhero movie? You're going to see that movie. And if its even a half-way decent movie, you're going to love it. Because it's catering DIRECTLY to you, in a market that typically doesn't do that. You'd be stoked. So I get why black people would be super jazzed about BP. But me being white, and not particularly into superhero movies, feel no draw to see it. Because it's not made for me. I am not the target audience. And that's ok. Movies are allowed to have target audiences. Sh*t gets weird when someone tries to insinuate or outright accuse me of some wrongdoing for not being interested in that movie. And when these movies that are made specifically for a black audience include a bunch of dog-whistle racism towards white people, that's not cool. I don't care about any justifications someone tries to make for why that stuff is in the movie. Either racism is bad, or it isn't. You gotta choose. And if you're the kind of person that makes excuses for racism towards white people, who says its ok when the racism is going one way but not the other (or better yet you say it isn't even racism when its going in a certain direction) you are a racist. Period. At least have the integrity to admit it. And the white people who gush about BP being the greatest movie in the world, and go in on that weird self-flagellation/humiliation sh*t like Matt was talking about, are troubled in the head. Normal, mentally stable white people do not claim them. They are not with us.
@@booshandorkakow64 In this scenario Blade would be white, all the vampires would be Indian. And Spawn would be white while all the demons and other villains were Indian.
Shane left out the fact that Black People were demanding Disney donate money to Black Charities. If they only knew Black Panther was created by Jack Kirby & Stan Lee 2 White Guys
It's not racist, it's more anti-woke and reactionary. This was before he was famous and successful. You really don't see him getting genuinely annoyed about cultural things like this anymore. I imagine now that he doesn't have to worry about being a successful comedian he has relaxed about some things.
The movie was mid at best. But because it was sold as an “important” movie it tricked a lot of simpletons and woke people. First off Blade was better and was first. Second it taught Marvel and Disney to lean into identity politics and wokeness. And now current Marvel is paying the price.
if a movie is going to "take a stand" against oppression, then maybe dont make it set in an technologically brilliant and advanced country in the middle of Africa that WATCHED the rest of Africa get enslaved when they could have flown out at any time in their stealth jet and stopped all the slavery. Like ALL of it. From ever happening. And maybe dont have them decide on their nation's leadership with an MMA fight. Maybe your leaders should be decided by a better test than who can throw a punch while standing in a puddle. The entire government was overthrown by a single man who was angry. He had no army, no technology, no popular vote, no super power....just an angry guy Maybe dont have the country's ENTIRE Department of science be led by a 15 year old girl. Maybe dont have your secret service team use spears, in the Age of the Gun. Maybe dont have the nation's elite live in a high tech palace while the rest of the nation lives in huts...that's some warlord, Idi Amin-type wealth-poverty gap. If they're gonna be silly and dumb, then lean into it, like Howard the Duck or Guardians of the Galaxy or Austin Powers. If they're gonna be heavy handed about social justice, then tighten up the story, the setting, and the ideas.
I always thought Black Panther was a joke to trick black people into cheering for over the top racial stereotypes. Futuristic space aged African civilization, but they still use spears, have have gladiatorial combat to choose their king. I mean the first five minutes of the movie has rap, basketball, and a black on black violence. It's wild few people see this stuff.
The reason it made so much money was because every black person comic book fan or not went to see this movie. While every other comic book movie really only appeals to comic book fans exclusively.
Was at a bar shortly after the movie release. A black lesbian couple was arguing with a Nigerian man with a white girlfriend. The lesbians weren't allowed to be happy about the movie because they weren't from Africa. It was such a a surreal argument.
It's a very good movie. But people also need to understand that a lot of what is depicted in that book and movie is fictional. Admitted to by the author himself. It's a mythology story.
A good example of a black movie would be , Belly , by hype Williams. My buddy couldn’t even understand half the dialogue in that movie, I literally had to translate😂
i think matt kinda gets it but like they were not the target audience at all. i was 18 years old when it came out, have been a huge fan of comic books and comic book movies my whole life, im black and my father is african lmao like i dont think it’s perfect by any fuckin means but it did feel good to feel represented in popular media in such a big way
Ive never seen a Madea movie. Nothing about a dude dressed up like a funny grandmother ever really appealed to me. People would always tell me, "Dude... you never seen Madea? Its soooo funny!". No, I havent but cool, Im glad YOU liked it.
@@skarhead7597 both lead characters are black. Michael Jai White and Wesley Snipes play the lead roles. What do you want an all black cast to consider it a “black” movie.
People mentioning blade like that was a "black movie" just because the main guy was black. Those were vampire action movies more than anything. They're barely even comic book movies.
I liked the first one. I do take issue with the second one. Chadwick Boseman's own family said that they should recast the character. I also thought that they could have Michael B. Jordan come back and assume the role of the New Black Panther until T'Challa's son is ready to take over the mantle. At the end of the story in the 1st one it seemed like there was an understanding between the two adversaries, and T'Challa's death could have helped him understand a different path.
I don't watch comic book movies, but I remember the outrage. Ironically it wasn't so much from the "anti-woke" people because they were kind of at a nadir at the time, but just from people who were upset that people who hate comic book movies didn't like yet another comic book movie. I'm not saying no one hated it because it was a nearly all-black cast, but those people were just drowned out.
I talk to some older black comicbook fans and they were like "It ok". We gotten into a deep Converstaion on the Black Panther and how modern writer don't understand him and how sense now he became sort of a symbol the black community, some of the more progressive writers start putting more ideas into him so he can stand for more stuff rather then stuff that a king of a foreign nation in africa would care about, with them forgetting about the African cultures he inspire from to them trying to make a more ideoloized culture.
Love Shane and Matt. Loved Black Panther. One of the first movies where the hero being of color wasn’t chucking and jiving or stereotypical BS. Grew up in the 90s where the black guy was typically dancing, comic relief, etc.
From a production standpoint, it def deserves praise. Having so many Black people in front of the camera and behind the scenes creating a huge box-office success is great and noteworthy. The movie itself is fine. Black Panther's arc was much more compelling in Civil War, plus his suit looked 1,000 times better. The soundtrack is great. Killing off Klaw was a bad idea because Serkis was really good in that role, and should've kept appearing throughout the MCU as a minor foil. I don't much care for Michael B Jordon. I think he's very handsome like most folks in the MCU, but not a very interesting actor. The first couple of one-on-one fight scenes were awesome, and the last should've been the same, not the CGI mush it turned out to be.
I'll never get why people keep saying the story was complex, and the villain was so great. It was meh. The motivation of the villain was ridiculous. Seems people are just trying so hard to make this more than what it is.
The only reason why Matt is saying that *"Training day"* isn't a black film, is because Denzel Washington's character is a "bad guy." *Matt, IS, woke.*
It's also kind of sad that anyone would see Wakanda as some kind of aspirational real-life goal when the nation's entire existence depends on the use of completely fictional elements that are, for all intents and purposes, _magic._
They very briefly mentioned bad CGI....but how did they not specifically mention the ending battle. It was honestly the worst CGI end fights in any superhero movie.
Blade was pretty much the Kickstarter for modern comic book movies, and it starred Wesley Snipes. A dope black guy.
Also Spawn
Blade fucking rules, that movie is so much fun, underrated
Blade wasn't a black director , Black writer and notable predominantly black cast so therefore no one cares. It also didn't come out during the time of the 2nd Civil rights movement . So blade wasn't important bc society is dumb
@GRIZY28 "2nd civil rights movement" 😂😂 A movement that resulted in legislation being enacted that actually ended up being racially discriminating. The exact opposite of the intention of the first.
@GRIZY28 nobody cares?! everyone loves Blade. what kind of purple drank you been drinking? 2nd civil rights movement? you mean the commies who bought themselves mansions with the donation money? what kind of grape, obviously grape, kool aid you drank bro?
If only Blade existed. Or the color purple.
😅 how is nobody worshipping this comment
Blades not a black movie ffs
@@redkev81 what are you upset about, little guy?
@@redkev81 WTF is a black movie? 😂
@@redkev81 the two leads are black and they're killing white vampires.... It may not completely be a black movie but it is a movie about a black guy killing a bunch white bad guys
Spider man with kendrick lamar playing is basically just across the spiderverse lol
Yup
People straight up ignoring Wesley Snipes as Blade is so disrespectful. Everyone loved Blade, he pretty much saved Marvel and they act like it never happened. Im glad Ryan pulled him into deadpool. No disrespect towards black panther, but it wasnt the first time a black guy to lead a marvel movie.
When I watch the NBA I always think to myself, "wow, everyone looks like me! Tight!"
Black Panther was all black people with a black country
I'll never understand how everyone snubbed him. I remember all the "first black superhero movie.. finally" posts....like, really?
Black lead isn't the same thing. ???? did you even listen to this video? You could replace Snipes with a white guy and the Blade movie would be mostly unchanged. It's not a "black" movie, there's almost zero black culture in it. Black Panther is on a totally different level, and not to mention a lot of the crew behind the cameras were black also, so it was a big deal
@@protoman1214blade was the only black dude in the movie ☠️☠️
When I watch the NBA never once have said "This would be more enjoyable with people that look like me."
You live in a country where everybody looks like you though.
Yeah but when a white dude pops off it’s kinda fun
@@Likwidfox well you might fall in the category of reasonable man. I know white men that claim they are not attracted to black women and would never sleep with one lol. We all have our preference but for a man to turn down sex with a beautiful woman cuz of her race shows underlying issues beyond simply a preference 🤣 you might be reasonable but there are ppl that change the channel if a black person is on screen.
@@SharleneMelenedez-o7i We're the most racially diverse country on earth. If you're American, odds are that you live among people who look like you.
What an ignorant take. Whats it like not being able to understand what others go through?
Everyone in America desperately wanting to be part of a civil rights movement is so accurate. I wish everyone would relax on that.
Don’t be a menace in South central while drinking your juice in the hood. Best black movie ever
@@shellac23 one of the funniest black comedies. Best black movie might be Malcolm X.
I’m gonna get you sucka is a great black comedy. Same with Harlem Nights.
@@mentlincracists can’t seem to resist.
@@ledflaplin2001thanks was about to say it
Wayans bros rock!!
BP was vanilla as vanilla gets. The fact it was nominated for an Oscar is fucking insulting to quality film makers.
It won the Oscar
@@dinodarko857it won a couple, but I'm guessing they're referring to the best picture nom, which was an absolute joke (I say having enjoyed the movie). But the academy loves fart sniffing pandering, so it tracks.
Funny thing is the second one was a much better film than the first
@@dinodarko857 heavy effects, production design, sound design and scores usually go to big budget blockbusters and they should. Franchises like the MCU have great production design and costumes-basically all the technical awards should go to these films. But a complete film, screenplay, acting, directing, cinematography? They are mostly garbage. BP was no exception.
Shane really exemplifies his “early-onset conservatism” in this bit lmao
Hes a liberal.
@ I’m referencing one of his stand-up jokes about how being a history buff and particularly being into American history is the early stages of becoming Republican.
identity politics ruined this country. prove me wrong lol.
I think Shane was pretty reactionary before he got successful. You can see it in these old clips. He was just more bitter than he is now. Like, this is such a silly thing to be annoyed about. Now days he'd probably laugh about it more instead of venting a misplaced frustration.
@@johng92 nobody getting your reference is cracking me up bro
I always thought the idea of wakanda was stupid. How are you the most technically gifted civilization in the marvel world but you still have a tribal system of government? And you're fucking using laser spears as a weapon and riding rhinos and shit. It's like a stereotype turned up to 11.
If light swords are cool than why not laser spears? Shits dope
Yea it's pretty corny, like regular big cities in Africa don't go nuts with the tribal shit, it's corny as hell.
Lmao barking at the "Colonist" for speaking out of turn
Shane aint giving Matt a fuckin inch of slack on this. Its obvious Matt really likes the movie lol 😂
Yeah but Matt has to like the movie, his married to a black woman.
Madea goes to the moon
The best black movie is "Friday," hands down. Funny as hell. Highly quotable dialogue. Coherent story with mainstream appeal. Whitey is neither shown nor mentioned, let alone disparaged. The negative stereotypes are rightfully mocked and not glorified. Positive actions are rewarded. I could go on. It's brilliant!
Honestly the whole series is great! But nothing will touch the Orginal Friday…. Perfect comedy
No knock on the film itself, however, "the best black movie" is far from a comedy. YOU just only have the attention span/racial tolerance for black culture in the container of a comedy film.
Do The Right Thing or Malcolm X or Boyz N The Hood or Crooklyn are frontrunners for best black movie. Coming to America clears Friday.
The "best black movie" either has Denzel in it or is directed by Spike Lee. Thems the rules and I don't make em.
Also, shouts to Richard Pryor & Eddie Murphy that paved the way and made a lot of 90s black cinema possible.
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 If you're an angry prick who walks around with a huge chip on your shoulder, maybe, but the rest of us don't enjoy hating other people for their skin color the way you and Spike Lee do.
@@NeoAndersonChannel1 So in order to be a "black movie" it has to feed into your persecution complex and give you an excuse to walk around with a giant chip on your shoulder?
Yeah, we're not gonna take you very seriously, I hope that's okay.
Finding out Gerbies is in the room halfway through this video made me spit out my drink
This part floored me lmao
"We'll get to you in a second"
He just sitting there with his hands folded. That expression on his face like his grandmom is watching him take a shit. And grading him on it.@frankfranklinson
"watch spiderman with kendrick lamar playing and it's the same thing" hahaha that was pretty funny
went to see it in high school with my boys and before it even started a black family came over to us to make sure we were gonna be quiet for the movie for their “experience”. bp mid af
that is hilarious. do you remember that video of that girl going "GIVE YOUR SEAT UP YT PPL" lmaoooo
Thats fire as fuck lmaooooo
Asks the ppl known for being loud in movie theaters
I can't believe these guys are having problems finding a "black movie". How about Friday???
Mainstream dummy
@@JJ-om6nx its pretty mainstream
think they mean like a huge movie outside of things like friday big mommas house and things like that
Fr
@@forkp5363that’s funny cuz I think they mean to clap back as shitty and with as few words as possible- let’s not read too far into it on this one. Just trust me on this.
I am asian and have never been excited for an "asian movie". You have issues if that is how you think of movies.
lol! You might be the only one. Every Asian I know was excited for Crazy Rich Asians!
@jasonmoore22031 if every Asian was excited for it, then it would have easily made more than a billion dollars. Asians are the largest population in the world.
@@jasonmoore22031 if it was so wildly popular among Asians then it would have easily made more than a billion. Asians are the largest population in the world.
@@jasonmoore22031 also, what kind of measurement is that? "The Asians I know"? What an absurd way to measure the sentiment among all Asians.
On top of that, I never said there could not be Asians with weird issues. I said I don't think about movies in that way and anyone that does, including any Asians, has issues.
That’s not the point. It was popular with Asian Americans because they are an under represented group as well. Every black person in Africa didn’t go see black panther because it’s not that big of deal there. But it was real popular with black Americans. It’s not that hard to see.
When they called homie a colonizer I fucking lost it! Like, ayooooo, thats fucking wild Marvel!!! Laughed so damn hard
ikr. i rolled my eyes so hard at that, as if Wakanda couldnt have ended slavery INSTANTLY with their stealth jet, and super plant. For like 1400 years, the African subcontinet was being colonized and all Wakanda did...was watch. They comfortably watched colonization from the comfort of their invisi shield and watched it, like it was Gilligan's Island on TV: "Oh those poor helpless people. Oh well, pass the superplant smoothie let's finish curing spinal injuries."
@@slchance8839Tbf, that’s also the whole point of the movie. That they could’ve and should’ve done more.
“Watch any Spider-Man movie and listen to Kendrick Lamar”………Holy sh*t🤣🤣
It's really not hard to understand. Imagine you're a white dude who lived in India your whole life, and all you ever saw was Indian super-hero movies with Indian actors; sure they'd have their token white guy hero, maybe even two of them, but they were never the star and frankly weren't as cool as most of the other Indian super heroes. Then one day, suddenly there's an all-white superhero movie? You're going to see that movie. And if its even a half-way decent movie, you're going to love it. Because it's catering DIRECTLY to you, in a market that typically doesn't do that. You'd be stoked.
So I get why black people would be super jazzed about BP. But me being white, and not particularly into superhero movies, feel no draw to see it. Because it's not made for me. I am not the target audience. And that's ok. Movies are allowed to have target audiences.
Sh*t gets weird when someone tries to insinuate or outright accuse me of some wrongdoing for not being interested in that movie. And when these movies that are made specifically for a black audience include a bunch of dog-whistle racism towards white people, that's not cool. I don't care about any justifications someone tries to make for why that stuff is in the movie. Either racism is bad, or it isn't. You gotta choose. And if you're the kind of person that makes excuses for racism towards white people, who says its ok when the racism is going one way but not the other (or better yet you say it isn't even racism when its going in a certain direction) you are a racist. Period. At least have the integrity to admit it.
And the white people who gush about BP being the greatest movie in the world, and go in on that weird self-flagellation/humiliation sh*t like Matt was talking about, are troubled in the head. Normal, mentally stable white people do not claim them. They are not with us.
As a white dude I'd want a better movie.Much better...There's already a TRILLION black movies anyway
Were Blade and Spawn played by Indians or white dudes in this scenario
@@booshandorkakow64 In this scenario Blade would be white, all the vampires would be Indian. And Spawn would be white while all the demons and other villains were Indian.
@@NonyaB-zp6lz so why was Black Panther such a big deal?
@@booshandorkakow64 Did you read OP? It doesn't sound like it. Have you seen Black Panther?
The Abott Elementary clip at the end is everything.
"maybe just wakanda for the day" 😂
Undercover brother was awesome. And I agree with shane on Django being waaay better than black panther😅
Yeah but a movie directed by a white who gives him self the n word pass I wouldn’t exactly call that a black movie
Ofc ya think a slave revenge movie is better than a black king with super powers ... I swear y'all aren't serious sometimes @charlescollins2440
Yeah Django is actually a quality movie.
Weird for gillis to be super into star wars and then act like comic book movies are somehow any different.
Is he into Star Wars? That’s interesting I’ve never heard him talk about it
As someone who's watched every episode of MSSp and is a super fan of Star wars, he's never once talked about it lmao
@@miketrujillo3677he’s a burger return of the with fan, and in his ripping of one of the newer Star Wars movies he says they ruined his childhood fav
Return of the jedi*** lol
@@miketrujillo3677 Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do. ua-cam.com/video/WqUSP8Aa3Rs/v-deo.html
7:10 your making the right choice sittin this one out hahaha
Shane left out the fact that Black People were demanding Disney donate money to Black Charities. If they only knew Black Panther was created by Jack Kirby & Stan Lee 2 White Guys
Johnson family vacation. Best black movie ever
Sounds like Matt doesn't want to admit how much he liked it because of Shane's peer pressure
Nah it's shit lol
Yep. Shane's racism shined through again. He gets hot and bothered whenever black people celebrate something.
It's not racist, it's more anti-woke and reactionary. This was before he was famous and successful. You really don't see him getting genuinely annoyed about cultural things like this anymore. I imagine now that he doesn't have to worry about being a successful comedian he has relaxed about some things.
@@TalkingThroneswhat are they celebrating? wakanda isn’t real 😂
Yeah but Matt has to like the movie, his married to a black woman.
The movie was mid at best. But because it was sold as an “important” movie it tricked a lot of simpletons and woke people. First off Blade was better and was first. Second it taught Marvel and Disney to lean into identity politics and wokeness. And now current Marvel is paying the price.
It was always shit
I remember going to see this movie with a friend of mine that isn't black and him getting upset at me because i thought i was just "Ok".
Yeah having been around Africa, this Wakanda fantasy is very cute.
I feel like Shane understands
if a movie is going to "take a stand" against oppression, then maybe dont make it set in an technologically brilliant and advanced country in the middle of Africa that WATCHED the rest of Africa get enslaved when they could have flown out at any time in their stealth jet and stopped all the slavery. Like ALL of it. From ever happening.
And maybe dont have them decide on their nation's leadership with an MMA fight. Maybe your leaders should be decided by a better test than who can throw a punch while standing in a puddle. The entire government was overthrown by a single man who was angry. He had no army, no technology, no popular vote, no super power....just an angry guy
Maybe dont have the country's ENTIRE Department of science be led by a 15 year old girl. Maybe dont have your secret service team use spears, in the Age of the Gun.
Maybe dont have the nation's elite live in a high tech palace while the rest of the nation lives in huts...that's some warlord, Idi Amin-type wealth-poverty gap. If they're gonna be silly and dumb, then lean into it, like Howard the Duck or Guardians of the Galaxy or Austin Powers. If they're gonna be heavy handed about social justice, then tighten up the story, the setting, and the ideas.
Undercover Brother is always has been one of my favorite movies.
The Last Dragon is the best Black Karate movie
Nobody remembers Blank Man or Meteor Man ?
Meteor Man was my jam on sick days.
I always thought Black Panther was a joke to trick black people into cheering for over the top racial stereotypes. Futuristic space aged African civilization, but they still use spears, have have gladiatorial combat to choose their king. I mean the first five minutes of the movie has rap, basketball, and a black on black violence. It's wild few people see this stuff.
The reason it made so much money was because every black person comic book fan or not went to see this movie. While every other comic book movie really only appeals to comic book fans exclusively.
This.
BP was lowkey based. How do they pick a leader? Fist fight. What's their primary weapon? Spear Borderwall is based.
Which is rich coming from the same civilization that is simultaneously way more advanced when it comes to medicine, weapons, and general technology.
Was at a bar shortly after the movie release. A black lesbian couple was arguing with a Nigerian man with a white girlfriend. The lesbians weren't allowed to be happy about the movie because they weren't from Africa. It was such a a surreal argument.
I’ll watch any movie with Chadwick Boseman.
@ rip Chadwick
RIP
Not any more
@Stevenirons wow dude, you’re so edgy and cool, talking like that about someone that’s dead, douchebag.
I honestly had no idea who Chadwick was until he died. Legit.
It's no How Stella Got Her Groove Back
academy award nominee. 🤣
The beginning of the token awards.
Black Panther = any Spiderman movie with Kendrick Lamar playing in the background
Roots was a good black movie
It's a very good movie. But people also need to understand that a lot of what is depicted in that book and movie is fictional. Admitted to by the author himself. It's a mythology story.
It’s a series but yes, very good.
What about Robots that was a good one too.
Shane was on his period with this topic lol
He was right. There was some BS going that wouldn't fly in a "white" movie. Movie also aged like milk 🤣
Yeah but Matt has to like the movie, his married to a black woman.
Awesome Black Panther Party, dude.
Snipes and Jai White my 2 childhood heroes
Training Day was directed by a black man (Antoine Fuqua) lmaooo
Not Joe Dirt 💀
Get Out was dope.
Wakanda forever
I'm a huge Marvel fan. Black Panther was just so so.
A good example of a black movie would be , Belly , by hype Williams.
My buddy couldn’t even understand half the dialogue in that movie, I literally had to translate😂
Talkin about mainstream dude
@@Chuckschwartz Harlem Nights, gangster movie with Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is so big he ONLY does mainstream.
amazing stuff bud
i think matt kinda gets it but like they were not the target audience at all. i was 18 years old when it came out, have been a huge fan of comic books and comic book movies my whole life, im black and my father is african lmao like i dont think it’s perfect by any fuckin means but it did feel good to feel represented in popular media in such a big way
shut up
Hoarding resources is cool if you’re black.
- Black Panther
Sure, but it still sucked let's be real. Aged like milk too 💩🤣
Be real, dude why was the only "advanced" afro-state only in a work of fiction, but they never try to be successful like the west....
Shut up boy, nobody cares
When i saw black panther i just kept thinking isnt this just iron man 2 but with more black people?? 🤣 🤔
Ive never seen a Madea movie. Nothing about a dude dressed up like a funny grandmother ever really appealed to me. People would always tell me, "Dude... you never seen Madea? Its soooo funny!". No, I havent but cool, Im glad YOU liked it.
There have been so many hilarious reviews from centre, right and alt right figures of this movie.
Blade anyone?
Spawn
Neither are "black" movies 😂
@@skarhead7597 both lead characters are black. Michael Jai White and Wesley Snipes play the lead roles. What do you want an all black cast to consider it a “black” movie.
@@skarhead7597what is then? Does the entire plot have to center around melanin to be called so? It’s so weird just like good movies
I'm a Mexican and I thought black panther was sick af
Time for Shane to play Malcolm X.
What about Blankman??
Shane's just trying to keep the car on the road and the other dude is all like "Hey! He don't even have his license, Lisa!".
People mentioning blade like that was a "black movie" just because the main guy was black. Those were vampire action movies more than anything. They're barely even comic book movies.
Yooo the hate was real back then. I like to think that at least one of Shane’s black friends talked to him about how much of a hater he came across as
If Training Day isn’t a “black movie” then Black Panther isn’t a “black movie”. There, I said it.
It was just like Captain Marvel, even the 2nd movie couldn't replicate the box office
It's disappointing that Shane doesn't understand why Training Day isn't a Black movie.
Black Panther is one of the best MCU movies. Top 5. Not as good as Captain America Winter Soldier or the last two Avengers movies.
Blade 1&2>>>>>>Black Panther 1&2
What happend to tiptoes video
I’ve been wondering the same thing I was so pumped to get a 20 minute video in this format with Tosh commentary!!!!
Hurt my heart!
Blade, Friday, Coming to America
I liked the first one. I do take issue with the second one. Chadwick Boseman's own family said that they should recast the character. I also thought that they could have Michael B. Jordan come back and assume the role of the New Black Panther until T'Challa's son is ready to take over the mantle. At the end of the story in the 1st one it seemed like there was an understanding between the two adversaries, and T'Challa's death could have helped him understand a different path.
I don't watch comic book movies, but I remember the outrage. Ironically it wasn't so much from the "anti-woke" people because they were kind of at a nadir at the time, but just from people who were upset that people who hate comic book movies didn't like yet another comic book movie. I'm not saying no one hated it because it was a nearly all-black cast, but those people were just drowned out.
more of these w Shane reviewing films, each time i try watching the podcast i sit for an hour without anything funny happening.
I guess they just forgot about Blade and Spawn.......... two of my favorites growing up.
So what you guys never saw a movie shaft, Dolomite, in the heat of the night, Sergeant Rutledge 😂
I talk to some older black comicbook fans and they were like "It ok". We gotten into a deep Converstaion on the Black Panther and how modern writer don't understand him and how sense now he became sort of a symbol the black community, some of the more progressive writers start putting more ideas into him so he can stand for more stuff rather then stuff that a king of a foreign nation in africa would care about, with them forgetting about the African cultures he inspire from to them trying to make a more ideoloized culture.
A panther is a jaguar, which lives in South America. So, this hero is culturally appropriating South American cultures.
12:25 crazy lol
This convo showed me how out of you touch with black culture Shane Gillis is 😂😂
Facts 😭😭😭
Love Shane and Matt. Loved Black Panther. One of the first movies where the hero being of color wasn’t chucking and jiving or stereotypical BS. Grew up in the 90s where the black guy was typically dancing, comic relief, etc.
Chadwick was good as fuck in it. RIP
Chadwick was the best aspect of it. The rest of the film honestly kind of sucked
12:35 ironically your outro is reminiscing of a black production studio logo, you would see at the end of a black show
From a production standpoint, it def deserves praise. Having so many Black people in front of the camera and behind the scenes creating a huge box-office success is great and noteworthy. The movie itself is fine. Black Panther's arc was much more compelling in Civil War, plus his suit looked 1,000 times better. The soundtrack is great. Killing off Klaw was a bad idea because Serkis was really good in that role, and should've kept appearing throughout the MCU as a minor foil. I don't much care for Michael B Jordon. I think he's very handsome like most folks in the MCU, but not a very interesting actor. The first couple of one-on-one fight scenes were awesome, and the last should've been the same, not the CGI mush it turned out to be.
Now fellas don't hate 😂
Cherry Hill isn't that far from Camden NJ.
I just wanna hang out with Shane for a night. Guaranteed good times just kicking it.
Glory.
Historic lol😂😂😂😂
I forgot that this movie even came out tbh
black panther sets the bar way to high for black people. id be pissed if i was black and saw that movie.
I'll never get why people keep saying the story was complex, and the villain was so great. It was meh. The motivation of the villain was ridiculous. Seems people are just trying so hard to make this more than what it is.
These are great
The only reason why Matt is saying that *"Training day"* isn't a black film, is because Denzel Washington's character is a "bad guy."
*Matt, IS, woke.*
The friday trilogy
Shaft...? Anybody. Hello...
1970s... Harlem. Not f**** Wakanda.
Ahhhh yes Matt’s secret woke past he’s been trying to hide forever
“woke” has lost its meaning. stupid fucking term
It's also kind of sad that anyone would see Wakanda as some kind of aspirational real-life goal when the nation's entire existence depends on the use of completely fictional elements that are, for all intents and purposes, _magic._
They very briefly mentioned bad CGI....but how did they not specifically mention the ending battle. It was honestly the worst CGI end fights in any superhero movie.