Adam 👏🏻 great info again on vintage watches. I live in the uk and would only talk to you about vintage, always love your honesty. Brilliant work all round to all the team. Keep up the great work.
I agree with you Adam, so many people nake the mistake of buying a watch at auction when they simply can call you or even look online and save money, makes no sense to me. Thanks for your work in showing these watches that were at the auction. Great work!😊
Auction premium and customs charges make so many of these examples uneconomic. Slightly surprised that you can source items, presumably for sale, in this kind of market. I guess you wait for a slack auction or speculate the future against an undervalued present. Always enjoy your insights.
Sometimes there’s a good deal to be had on a common watch, but not often. If you notice, all of the stuff we bid on are generally harder to come by. It always just depends.
@@mentawatches I’ve seen that micky mouse watch you guys got online he’s looking one of the golf versions of that watch maybe with Donald Duck or goofy. For his 70th birthday this year he’s also been battling cancer so always lookin at y’all’s website
I agree, I almost never buy at auction due to the buyers premium at 27%. I did sell at sotheby a few times before, and had a modern Rolex for this live auction as well. It did fetch more than what you can get a grey dealers in HK. I was surprised the RG Daytona on OF sold for way over market price. I’m sure th seller is happy with that result.
What exactly prevents Rolex from coming out and actually saying, “Yes, we did indeed produce the Blueberry bezels, or, No, we never produced these bezels.” I don’t understand how this can still be a question.
I think the collector's ocd drift is really playing against common sens: for ex the fat font on the explorer is rather hideous compared to a normal dial....One day people will wake up about these details which are just used to make prices explode artificially. No reasonnable watch person will buy a 50 year-old watch with a slow caliber at 20k in my opinion....At least not me
When it comes to auction watches that are not exclusive such as the Daytonas at the start of your analysis which sell at higher prices in the auction, is it a condition thing or is someone trying to rig the market? I have to be honest and say that the swiss watch market lacks a lot of integrity and this is an understatement or me just being very kind.
I think often it is people who feel more comfortable buying from an “established” major auction house and also can’t be bothered to shop around (I.e., have too much money or just not experienced enough buyers). A lot of people also get swept away while bidding and get carried away.
If they have the money to burn, who cares. It might hurt them or not. Either way they OVER pay regardless. Most of the time they bid on auctions just to flex. A few years ago some auction house listed a 36mm Tiffany OP for $36,000.00!!!! This was not the 39mm which was still in production at that time. So really, it should make you wonder if this is was allowed to hype up the market. That time it wasn't the secondary used watch market grey dealer market. Some sucker a-hole, wealthy or not, won that basic still in production watch for just above $38K.
It folks laundering money or Manufacturers hyping the game. Because Manufacturers had been on a winning role for a few years now. And they lots of funds, and can afford to buy over the price stated. And the suckered will believe that you can't go wrong in buying a vintage luxury watch. Very cunning scheme that was hatch many, many years ago. I was suckered in to buy a PP world timer. Brought 24 years ago, and now it's still the same price.
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We all make mistakes 😢
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Holy shit your channel is so much better than all the douchy flexing dealer channels. All interesting content.
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Yeah, just avoid Roman Sharf, goes a long way. Eric and Adam are real.
Adam 👏🏻 great info again on vintage watches. I live in the uk and would only talk to you about vintage, always love your honesty. Brilliant work all round to all the team. Keep up the great work.
Always been a bigger fan of white or cream dial on gold watch. Black looks good, but i'd love a white dial.
I agree with you Adam, so many people nake the mistake of buying a watch at auction when they simply can call you or even look online and save money, makes no sense to me.
Thanks for your work in showing these watches that were at the auction.
Great work!😊
Well said!
Great video. Looking to more of these auction results videos
Auction premium and customs charges make so many of these examples uneconomic. Slightly surprised that you can source items, presumably for sale, in this kind of market. I guess you wait for a slack auction or speculate the future against an undervalued present. Always enjoy your insights.
Sometimes there’s a good deal to be had on a common watch, but not often. If you notice, all of the stuff we bid on are generally harder to come by. It always just depends.
We want a full interview with Mr H. even if he’s blurred 😊
Great video Adam, look forward to meet you!
You too!!
Pretty solid market auction update!!! When I'm ready to buy that special vintage timepiece. Menta Watches will be the first to source and buy from.
Great content as always, thanks Adam🙏🙏🙏
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Love this content, helping my dad get a vintage piece love yalls website too
That is awesome!
@@mentawatches I’ve seen that micky mouse watch you guys got online he’s looking one of the golf versions of that watch maybe with Donald Duck or goofy. For his 70th birthday this year he’s also been battling cancer so always lookin at y’all’s website
Great content. Very informative. The vintage market is not for the faint hearted.
I agree, I almost never buy at auction due to the buyers premium at 27%. I did sell at sotheby a few times before, and had a modern Rolex for this live auction as well. It did fetch more than what you can get a grey dealers in HK. I was surprised the RG Daytona on OF sold for way over market price. I’m sure th seller is happy with that result.
What exactly prevents Rolex from coming out and actually saying, “Yes, we did indeed produce the Blueberry bezels, or, No, we never produced these bezels.” I don’t understand how this can still be a question.
I enjoy the auction update videos 👍🏼
That's insane money for a zenith daytona that's everywhere
Can someone please tell me the age range for vintage vs neo-vintage?
Hi Adam, when you say the price sold is all inclusive, does it include the buyer's premium too?
Yes. The prices I state are the final amount after auction premium, before shipping/customs/taxes.
Complete recap 10/10
Which auction is it?
love your stuff, great vid
Glad you enjoy it!
Another great video 👏
Roman has that same onyx dial 🔥
I contacted you but never got an answer about a 1 of 1 jean lassale cal 1200
Great pedagogy here!
Great video Adam!
I think the collector's ocd drift is really playing against common sens: for ex the fat font on the explorer is rather hideous compared to a normal dial....One day people will wake up about these details which are just used to make prices explode artificially. No reasonnable watch person will buy a 50 year-old watch with a slow caliber at 20k in my opinion....At least not me
I'm really liking those old man watches
Very enjoyable video
🤔I really don’t understand why people over pay for watches at auctions. Washing money?
Could be
When it comes to auction watches that are not exclusive such as the Daytonas at the start of your analysis which sell at higher prices in the auction, is it a condition thing or is someone trying to rig the market? I have to be honest and say that the swiss watch market lacks a lot of integrity and this is an understatement or me just being very kind.
I think often it is people who feel more comfortable buying from an “established” major auction house and also can’t be bothered to shop around (I.e., have too much money or just not experienced enough buyers). A lot of people also get swept away while bidding and get carried away.
"I dont understand" [the prices].
Tail end of a bubble; don't worry about it, people in the bubble are always blind to it.
That Cartier crash is so freaking ugly. How can anybody pay that kind of money for that thing you got? Gotta be cookoo in the head.
Global low economy situation is taking its toll on several märkets.
Apparently not in HK auctions, prices were a bit too crazy.
Guy is 100% correct, Golden is super cheap, specially when you buy from him.
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what auction sites?
Sotheby's in Hong Kong, it's in the description.
If they have the money to burn, who cares. It might hurt them or not. Either way they OVER pay regardless. Most of the time they bid on auctions just to flex. A few years ago some auction house listed a 36mm Tiffany OP for $36,000.00!!!! This was not the 39mm which was still in production at that time. So really, it should make you wonder if this is was allowed to hype up the market. That time it wasn't the secondary used watch market grey dealer market. Some sucker a-hole, wealthy or not, won that basic still in production watch for just above $38K.
they buy in auctions to wash $$$ faster.. 😂
It folks laundering money or Manufacturers hyping the game.
Because Manufacturers had been on a winning role for a few years now.
And they lots of funds, and can afford to buy over the price stated.
And the suckered will believe that you can't go wrong in buying a vintage luxury watch.
Very cunning scheme that was hatch many, many years ago.
I was suckered in to buy a PP world timer.
Brought 24 years ago, and now it's still the same price.
Get this channel to100k subs
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Baignoire allongé - Bay no are ah lon jay - means stretched bathtub. Have a good day
I’m too American. I can’t pronounce anything haha
The missing ingormation is the location of the buyers, a lot of Chinese money moving out of China
dAng it aint cheap! do people know those are not brand new watches?!?!?!
Not a fail if you're the sellers.
the brands are pumping them. cheap advertising for them...
And most auction bidders are rolex owners themselves 😂
Making the content like Nico’s. Keep original
Opusntime says you will not publish my comment here it goes 'The watch market is dead' go ahead prove him right
Not sure who that is but go ahead, publish away!
Yup ! The watch market is dead in a backyard pool and floating face down 🏊♂️
@@mentawatchesActually Juan Neeves from Opusntime lives in the Miami area like yourself.
Vintage watches has, and will always have a market, and live on in the future
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Sounds like the Chinese money is flowing again.
Flowing to them from us.
Sad
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