The ones the austrians used were a bit older, and had a 20 round magazine which made the kind of a repeater but they certainly weren't as finely finished as this one. They reportedly liked that it worked in rain (better than all the black powder guns) that it was fast with follow up shots and precise. What they disliked (and the reasons they eventually got rid of them again) was that the seals were not as good as modern ones (some made of leather), and carrying loaded stocks (like with the one in the video the pressurized part was the stock) meant that those were loosing a bit of pressure over time. And they thought them not sturdy enough for most military use. (Soldiers and battles have always been rough on material) There are a few videos on those, they are called Girandoni air rifles.
There was a fascinating example demonstrated in a Sherlock Holmes mystery with Jeremy Brett. It's available on YT. I didn't recall the title, so a simple Google search turned up "The Adventure of the Empty House".
@@wholeNwon I want to maybe make a video where I just showcase it a little bit, still in a work in progress, Im still buying pieces from home depot and amazon slowly
You are right about the 'ish' bit I think that one you have was similar to .45 ACP power wise.some modern PCP rifles are more powerful, just, than a .357 magnum revolver,mind a 357 magnum is a quarter of the size!
@@samueljames8026 AEA .72 caliber Zeus shoots lead bullets up to 1082 grains made by Mr Hollowpoint, up to 1500 lb-ft of energy. Umarex Hammer .50 cal and AirForce Texan .50 cal shoot 500 grain bullets
Lewis and Clark's famous expedition of 1803-1806 succeeded in no small part because of their Giardoni repeating air rifle. Whenever they encountered a potentially hostile tribe they'd demonstrate how devastating the rifle could be, and in 39 such encounters they were able to pass through peacefully. The rifle's main disadvantage is that it had to be pumped over a thousand times to reach full power.
The reason a soldiers treatment was so severe when caught with the air rifle was because they was not classed as a soldier ,but as an assassin. There's a passage about it in G.cardews first edition. So much for all's fair in love an war. Great video, excellent rifle.
Het is een metalen pomp klein van diameter en vrij lang en gemiddeld moest je 1000 tot 1600 keer pompen voor hij vol is ,binnen diameter van het ding waar ik mee geschoten heb was 6 MM maar er waren verschillende maten in ,was heel leuk om mee te schieten . (1972/73) Opa
Only people who have not heard a period large bore airgun discharged believe they are silent. They are about as large as a small bore black powder shotgun.
I didn't see the specs or the ballistics on how many fps with different pellet weights and the foot pounds associated with those pellets. My airforce big texan .45 cal has brought down elk at 100 yards with no problem. So until I see the specs I'm not a believer.
Yes the texan is powerful but its also ugly. Trying to look like a military assault/sniper cross centre fire. Id like to see a custom one that isnt anodised black.
@@ahtauwylye1340 ok I can't disagree with you on its looks. It can definitely use some improvement I'm the beauty dept, but where it lacks in beauty it surly makes up for in power, accuracy and performance.
Pretty sure RSterne blew past that a few times with higher efficiency. Lloyd Sikes and another nut have taken the Condor even further than the Texan. Then there was also the .70 something caliber Condor-ish thing some Russians were playing with that was pretty impressive.
Not the most powerful by a long shot, don't believe me then check my channel. But it is one of the most beautiful ones I have ever seen! Thank you for showing us this piece of history and magnificent engineering.
In the United States you're allowed to shoot your antique guns and they can be replicas no paperworkI highly doubt if some farmer had it off ticket and he was shooting it on his farm in the middle of nowhere no one would know the difference
Lovely piece of history however you know nothing about airguns. Pressure would have been about 8500psi and velocity in the 500 to 600fps range would have taken 1500 to 1800 strokes of the pump to fill a cylinder and it would have been a close range hunting weapon. For hunting men you could wound someone seriously somewhat past 100yds but lethality would be questionable.
"the most powerful air rifle" has zero evidence to back up this claim. Maybe the most powerful at its creation Definitely not now. Also you didn't show the pump didn't give the caliber or weight of the ball. An yeah probably should be gone through and shot. Value Increases exponentially when it's functional
Can't shoot it in the UK without putting it on your FAC. Also what's the pump got to do with it? I fill my gun from a 300 bar air tank. When this came out it would have been the most powerful air gun in the world and even now a single shot 5000psi ball is going to be ridiculously powerful for an Air Rifle.
New modern big bore air guns are expensive and complicated. They are still rather strange and very expensive. And frankly look like sci-fi blasters. You can’t tel me that making something like a this mechanism presented in the vid would be very expensive.
You forgot to show the pump
The ones the austrians used were a bit older, and had a 20 round magazine which made the kind of a repeater but they certainly weren't as finely finished as this one. They reportedly liked that it worked in rain (better than all the black powder guns) that it was fast with follow up shots and precise. What they disliked (and the reasons they eventually got rid of them again) was that the seals were not as good as modern ones (some made of leather), and carrying loaded stocks (like with the one in the video the pressurized part was the stock) meant that those were loosing a bit of pressure over time. And they thought them not sturdy enough for most military use. (Soldiers and battles have always been rough on material) There are a few videos on those, they are called Girandoni air rifles.
There was a fascinating example demonstrated in a Sherlock Holmes mystery with Jeremy Brett. It's available on YT. I didn't recall the title, so a simple Google search turned up "The Adventure of the Empty House".
Granada 1984 Sherlock Holmes I am making a replica of that air rifle
I want to have it done by around Christmas
@@chikenxlegend1833 If you do, perhaps you'll post pics.
@@wholeNwon I want to maybe make a video where I just showcase it a little bit, still in a work in progress, Im still buying pieces from home depot and amazon slowly
what a stunning bit of history, thanks for sharing.
Finally, an air rifle video lol 😂
Wheres the pump that's what i was waiting on ?
I agree, it might not be the most powerful rifle in your shop but it certainly is the most interesting! Beautiful piece of history!
You are right about the 'ish' bit I think that one you have was similar to .45 ACP power wise.some modern PCP rifles are more powerful, just, than a .357 magnum revolver,mind a 357 magnum is a quarter of the size!
357 magnums get up to 800ft lbs of energy. I’d love to see an air rifle that can even come close to that.
@@samueljames8026 AEA .72 caliber Zeus shoots lead bullets up to 1082 grains made by Mr Hollowpoint, up to 1500 lb-ft of energy. Umarex Hammer .50 cal and AirForce Texan .50 cal shoot 500 grain bullets
@@ralphruhl3806 huh I had never heard of the aea zeus, that’s impressive. It’s not actually out yet just open for preorder but still that’s insane.
@@samueljames8026 the airforce texan 50 cal, also quite a cool rifle
Thank you guys for another great video , well done and that gun is a little gem
What a stunning piece :O
Lewis and Clark's famous expedition of 1803-1806 succeeded in no small part because of their Giardoni repeating air rifle. Whenever they encountered a potentially hostile tribe they'd demonstrate how devastating the rifle could be, and in 39 such encounters they were able to pass through peacefully. The rifle's main disadvantage is that it had to be pumped over a thousand times to reach full power.
The stirrup pump? would like to have seen how that got pumped up
Fascinating and we'll presented. Would have liked to see it fired though.
Keep em coming pal.
The reason a soldiers treatment was so severe when caught with the air rifle was because they was not classed as a soldier ,but as an assassin. There's a passage about it in G.cardews first edition. So much for all's fair in love an war. Great video, excellent rifle.
Can you post which book this was in? Or a full name?
@@22airgun Airguns and air pistols by L.wesley revised by G.V cardew. Hope it helps mate.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 found it! Thanks!
@@22airgun No problem
here in the use we use airguns even as small as .22 to take even stuff like small wild pigs and deer.
Huh. I own a spring action .22 but can never imagine it hurting a deer. May a condor may do it
Im guessing the pumping stage is not going to be a fun time, even the best pump air rifles only less than 12 ft lb are a massive PINA to make ready.
What caliber is it ? Anyone worked out what sort of ft/ lbs it would produce?
About .46 cal, and I've heard anywhere from 160 to 210 foot pounds.
Het is een metalen pomp klein van diameter en vrij lang en gemiddeld moest je 1000 tot 1600 keer pompen voor hij vol is ,binnen diameter van het ding waar ik mee
geschoten heb was 6 MM maar er waren verschillende maten in ,was heel leuk om mee te schieten . (1972/73) Opa
looks like the inspiration behind the Lewis and clark air gun.
The so called Lewis and Clark gun, which was a Girandoni pneumatic gun of late 18th century manufacture, was the forerunner of the gun described here.
Well it’s not often I get a Gungasm these days but this definitely did it for me .
That was fascinating loved it great video many thanks :)
Wow, this was really cool, I’d love to own that.
WOW 🤩 hope it stays in the UK . Buy it TGS that will be another reason for me to come to your shop???
We should start a community gun fund
How many shots do you reckon you'd get if the tank was well charged?
20ish they think
Wow in the era of the muzzle loader that would've had a prodigious rate of fire - for the first 20 anyway! Thanks for showing us it.
Spare stock cylinders were not uncommon so you could have had 60 spare shots to hand!
Obviously you weren't allowed to shoot it, but its sitting there in its case saying go on you know you want to.
What is that beautiful gun worth?
Thank you for the history lesson .
@3:55 he says 3 or 4 thousand pound nowadays.
Thanks missed that
This is so awesome could you do a video as you shooting it?
Only people who have not heard a period large bore airgun discharged believe they are silent. They are about as large as a small bore black powder shotgun.
Made for a Lord, Likely Used by a Game Warden or Jaegermeister to Protect the King's Hunting Grounds from Commoners
While quieter than a powder burner, it would by no means be silent.
Yeah compared to black powder sure. But not even close to silent
wouldn't fancy pumping that up too often. Better get one of the servants to do it
Is this rifle for sale, or if anyone has one for sale
In the Holts auction on Monday
How was it brought up to pressure
They used a hand pump to fill them.
A lot of pumping. A lot !
I didn't see the specs or the ballistics on how many fps with different pellet weights and the foot pounds associated with those pellets. My airforce big texan .45 cal has brought down elk at 100 yards with no problem. So until I see the specs I'm not a believer.
Take your modern piped up boring texan leaf blower away. This is a real gun.
@@ahtauwylye1340 struck a nerve did I. If it's what you say show the specs. SOLVE IT!
Yes the texan is powerful but its also ugly. Trying to look like a military assault/sniper cross centre fire. Id like to see a custom one that isnt anodised black.
@@ahtauwylye1340 ok I can't disagree with you on its looks. It can definitely use some improvement I'm the beauty dept, but where it lacks in beauty it surly makes up for in power, accuracy and performance.
Gorgeous
So I guess that the "most powerful air rifle, ever. Almost-ish" means that it's actually not the most powerful.
You dare soil this lovely piece with your bare hands! :p
I’m sure they said the same thing back in 1830!
You've seen the SS Texan?
Pretty sure RSterne blew past that a few times with higher efficiency. Lloyd Sikes and another nut have taken the Condor even further than the Texan. Then there was also the .70 something caliber Condor-ish thing some Russians were playing with that was pretty impressive.
Just how powerful is it? ft lbs ? Roughly?
Too Cool 😎
But none of the have anything against shay cormacs air rifle with a grenade launcher somehow (assassins creed rogue)
great vid ass all ways
An amazing piece of history but not even close to being the most powerful air rifle.
Not the most powerful by a long shot, don't believe me then check my channel. But it is one of the most beautiful ones I have ever seen! Thank you for showing us this piece of history and magnificent engineering.
In the United States you're allowed to shoot your antique guns and they can be replicas no paperworkI highly doubt if some farmer had it off ticket and he was shooting it on his farm in the middle of nowhere no one would know the difference
Jonny you forgot the pump😩
We will do a members segment on it!
My airgun puts out 80FPE & it is fully automatic.
Chronograph All Day. Prove it
The brownish brown, brown, brownish brown
At one point, I thought I heard him say "Browning."
@@richardpopielarz8526 yeah
@@richardpopielarz8526 he did, browning seems to be sort of comparable to 'blueing' on a modern firearm.
@@fiacitro Thank You!!!
Click bait.
Lovely piece of history however you know nothing about airguns. Pressure would have been about 8500psi and velocity in the 500 to 600fps range would have taken 1500 to 1800 strokes of the pump to fill a cylinder and it would have been a close range hunting weapon. For hunting men you could wound someone seriously somewhat past 100yds but lethality would be questionable.
"the most powerful air rifle" has zero evidence to back up this claim. Maybe the most powerful at its creation
Definitely not now. Also you didn't show the pump didn't give the caliber or weight of the ball. An yeah probably should be gone through and shot. Value Increases exponentially when it's functional
Can't shoot it in the UK without putting it on your FAC.
Also what's the pump got to do with it?
I fill my gun from a 300 bar air tank.
When this came out it would have been the most powerful air gun in the world and even now a single shot 5000psi ball is going to be ridiculously powerful for an Air Rifle.
why on earth dot we use modern tech to build such guns? a powerful single shot muzzleloading air gun i would love!
They do. Look up pcp air rifles
They make 70cal 50 cal and everything below. My 25 cal pcp is probably more powerful and efficient to where i get 60 shots before i have to fill up
New modern big bore air guns are expensive and complicated. They are still rather strange and very expensive. And frankly look like sci-fi blasters. You can’t tel me that making something like a this mechanism presented in the vid would be very expensive.
@@burnsboysaresoldiers they do have a bunch that look like a traditional rifle
First! That is all.....
thankyou and well done
I want to firing video
Buy it for us and we will fire it!
L
Where are your gloves. Shame on you.
God this is pathetic