Should yield some great results, running at least buildzoid hynix timings on these APUs should be a necessity in my opinion, also due to the lower amount of cache.
Thanks for the video, I always thoroughly enjoy yours. I have one question; what do you use to test per core CO stability to determine the values? (could make for a good video guide) Thanks :) Excited for the iGPU video too.
Thanks for the kind words! I typically first use an application like Corecycler (or the one included with OCCT) to test each core. I let it cycle like 10 seconds to see if it's a pass/fail and for every pass I go down -5 and for every fail go up +5. Usually I first do it with SSE, then when everything is dialed in I also run AVX2 loads to see if it still passes. If all that's good, I run an all-core heavy stress test to see if any cores drop out. Same idea: whichever drops out goes +5. After all that, I run the regular benchmark suite to see if there's anything I didn't quite catch. Usually the benchmarks are fine and that will be my CO settings :)
I'm here for evey video. Nice to see you overclock still, and hopefully our kids will see a gentleman with white hair over the years showing them how to get performance out of their computers for free (ignoring power consumption). :)
Do you think you can get more out of it if you delid it and change the thermal paste to uses for liquid metal, saw someone say 25 degrees Celsius drop..
iGPU OC won't change much, just in very rare occasions since the 12CUs are heavily bound to RAM latency and speed. The ROG Ally performs marginally slower with only 2300-2400MHz iGPU clock.
My 8700G does 5.3ghz allcore and 2500 FCLK. Idk if you could do another video on the traditional OC style, and how to get maximum DDR5 frequency on these CPUs? That would be very helpful.
@@SkatterBencher Not at all. I meant that you didn't seem to try and max the CPU frequency out, and stopped at 4.95ghz. It would've been nice to see how far the core clocks could go, and how RAM frequency increases would effect the performance as well.
@SkatterBencher I also want to ask for tests in real resolutions of 2k and 4k, I want to update my HTPC and I want to see what happens in the end, now I have AMD A10-7850K in it.
@@SkatterBencher wow thanks so much for the reply, and showing us how its done. I am considering trying this out myself, which of the following motherboards would you recommend?: 1) asus rog strix b650 e-e, 2) gigabyte aurus x670e pro x 3) AsRock x670E Steel Legend Its a really interesting processor because with enough RAM (eg 96gb) running at 6000mhz+ you can actually run 70b LLMs fairly cheaply. Id overclock the CPU, 760M and tweak the timings on my RAM. Kinda regret getting just Kingston Fury Renegade 6000mhz, but it was listed on the qvl and has AMD Expo. I think tweaking timings can still squeeze like 10% performance uplift.
This board doesn't support Async ECLK mode, so increasing the ECLK would increase everything inside the CPU (including SATA, PCIe). I am planning to switch to a board with async Eclk for Phx2 variants.
и зачем все эти разгоны? не сказать что прям грандиозное дает производительность как раньше. может людям задуматься об уменьшение температур и мощности? может быть...
Excited for the IGPU benchmarks next!
That is why I am here. Igpu performance is fascinating to me.
Great! Will be very interesting to see the impact of memory overclocking for iGPU, timings vs frequency and both )
Should yield some great results, running at least buildzoid hynix timings on these APUs should be a necessity in my opinion, also due to the lower amount of cache.
Where can I find the Buildzoid Hynix timings? :)
@@SkatterBencherIt's on yt too, if you type in ddr5 hynix timings it's the first video
@@SkatterBencher on this platform too, just look it up, my other comments keep getting deleted by UA-cam I think
My comments keep disappearing whenever I try to tell you where to find them :( it's a video on here too
igpu + max ram speeds at 1:1 ratio are the most interesting overclocks for an apu
IGP OC will be a standalone video
@@SkatterBencherhurry up! Lol
Thanks for the video, I always thoroughly enjoy yours. I have one question; what do you use to test per core CO stability to determine the values? (could make for a good video guide) Thanks :) Excited for the iGPU video too.
Thanks for the kind words!
I typically first use an application like Corecycler (or the one included with OCCT) to test each core. I let it cycle like 10 seconds to see if it's a pass/fail and for every pass I go down -5 and for every fail go up +5. Usually I first do it with SSE, then when everything is dialed in I also run AVX2 loads to see if it still passes.
If all that's good, I run an all-core heavy stress test to see if any cores drop out. Same idea: whichever drops out goes +5.
After all that, I run the regular benchmark suite to see if there's anything I didn't quite catch. Usually the benchmarks are fine and that will be my CO settings :)
@@SkatterBencher Bedankt! 😉
I'm here for evey video. Nice to see you overclock still, and hopefully our kids will see a gentleman with white hair over the years showing them how to get performance out of their computers for free (ignoring power consumption). :)
My hair is already showing grey :) Thanks for the support!
Do you think you can get more out of it if you delid it and change the thermal paste to uses for liquid metal, saw someone say 25 degrees Celsius drop..
Lower temperature will always help a bit, but it doesn't feel there's that much more headroom.
@SkatterBencher Try it, please. Good guide 👍
Using the ddr4 and z590 gear 1 the memory timings tuning result in 230-300fps to 360-470 in cod game 😊 really worth it
How good is itx mb in ram oc compared to the gene or aorus master??
waiting for the IGPU overclock! especially want to see performance dependency to ram latency and speed
Feb 9 :)
iGPU OC won't change much, just in very rare occasions since the 12CUs are heavily bound to RAM latency and speed. The ROG Ally performs marginally slower with only 2300-2400MHz iGPU clock.
I wish thee was less focus on the asus part, most motherboards dont have those features
My 8700G does 5.3ghz allcore and 2500 FCLK. Idk if you could do another video on the traditional OC style, and how to get maximum DDR5 frequency on these CPUs? That would be very helpful.
What do you mean by traditional OC style? Is it different from OC Strategy #4? ua-cam.com/video/hYuLogj8ZBs/v-deo.html
@@SkatterBencher Not at all. I meant that you didn't seem to try and max the CPU frequency out, and stopped at 4.95ghz. It would've been nice to see how far the core clocks could go, and how RAM frequency increases would effect the performance as well.
Still waiting for a zen4 athlon lol
What u mean bro
@SkatterBencher I also want to ask for tests in real resolutions of 2k and 4k, I want to update my HTPC and I want to see what happens in the end, now I have AMD A10-7850K in it.
My graphics card isn't strong enough and my monitor not large enough for 2K/4K :)
Did you achieve stable oc?
All my OC strategies include stability testing with OCCT, both for SSE and AVX2
@@SkatterBencher wow thanks so much for the reply, and showing us how its done. I am considering trying this out myself, which of the following motherboards would you recommend?:
1) asus rog strix b650 e-e, 2) gigabyte aurus x670e pro x 3) AsRock x670E Steel Legend
Its a really interesting processor because with enough RAM (eg 96gb) running at 6000mhz+ you can actually run 70b LLMs fairly cheaply. Id overclock the CPU, 760M and tweak the timings on my RAM. Kinda regret getting just Kingston Fury Renegade 6000mhz, but it was listed on the qvl and has AMD Expo. I think tweaking timings can still squeeze like 10% performance uplift.
Any reason you did not touch the bclk?
This board doesn't support Async ECLK mode, so increasing the ECLK would increase everything inside the CPU (including SATA, PCIe).
I am planning to switch to a board with async Eclk for Phx2 variants.
Bro, for the love of god, gives us an iGPU overclock of this beast
Feb 9
1 Million? 1.21 Gigawatt :D
1 million milliwatt :)
Can you disable stapm in asus bios
Of course.
ASUS ROG release BIOS should already have the workaround for STAPM being activated. It was fixed quite a while before launch
I didnt See undervolting?;
Undervolting on AMD Ryzen processors is through Curve Optimizer adjustments, which I cover in OC Strategy #2.
Can you Help me? Ive Mini PC and with Pico PSU .... I will optimized only my undervolting how can i do IT without oc
"INCORRECT" xD
и зачем все эти разгоны? не сказать что прям грандиозное дает производительность как раньше. может людям задуматься об уменьшение температур и мощности? может быть...