I appreciate that the look is sleeker than the form goggles. Of course, with new tech, function comes first then they can work on slimming it down. I don't see myself being an early adopter in this market yet but I like the concept still!
I think that’s smart Ben! It still feels like something you’d use occasionally but not something you’d switch completely away from your go to goggles towards. 🤷🏻♂️
I didn't even know these were in the works, so good to see a competitor to Form, it'll only make the products better, so tempted by some smart goggles. Great video dude.
Wait, you only need goggles for swimming so you’re good. 😆 But I agree a little competition is Good and I think you could easily hold off on these smart goggles for a while. 👍
Love the two piece idea- That's class. The shape looks so much better than the Form goggles that's for sure. I love the Form swim tech but the shape of them and lack of peripheral vision really ruins it annoyingly.
Yeah, that’s the thing about goggles. The fit, visibility and leaks have to be spot on or people aren’t going to use it. This one is better but not perfect. I’m not throwing away my other goggles just yet.
The Form Swim goggles pair with some garmin watches and the apple watch to display distance data in open water swimming. This Finis goggle only connects to the smart phone to transfer data after the workout.
Would love to see how OH1, Verity Sense, HRM Tri/Swim and other hr monitors combine their metrics together with the metrics from the smart goggles (both Finis and Form).
The Form goggles seem to be integrating more third party services at the moment. I’m still hoping to compare these two smart goggles in a future video. 👌 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hey, Joseph - for sure! With our FORM Smart Swim Goggles, we connect to Polar's Verity Sense and OH1/OH1 + heart rate sensors so you can monitor your live heart rate in the goggles while pool and open water swimming. After your workout, you can review your heart rate alongside other metrics tracked by the goggles, such as time, distance, pace, stroke rate, stroke count, and more in the FORM Swim App. In open water, the goggles also connect to compatible Garmin and Apple Watches meaning you can monitor your heart rate and GPS distance while swimming.
8 x 125 freestyle drill (25 kick with head in neutral position, arms by side, focus on kick and good hip/shoulder rotation; 25 add the right arm stroke, keeping left arm by side, breathe to left side when right arm is extended and initiating catch; 25 left arm stroke keeping right arm by side, breathe to right side when left arm is extended and initiating catch; 50 full stroke, increasing tempo slightly as you progress through the final 25. 20 seconds rest. This set helps develop timing, build and engage core strength, isolate and correct stroke weakness, improve kick and promote proper body position in the water. It should not be done fast.
Great workout and the details on the why are super helpful. I don’t think many workouts mention that and it’s super important. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
The charging cable on mine broke. It's proprietary. Nothing else uses it. Finis wants $29 in shipping alone on the cable. The goggles work well and I have no problems with the blindspot they create, but why didn't they use a normal charging cable with a waterproof gasket? My mp3 player does and it cost $20.
Open water workout, but possibly done in a pool too if there is a good spot for the run: 5 min W/U 5 X 100 exiting the water and running 50 yds between each 100 without rest, race pace 2 min rest Repeat 5 X 100 with exit runs 5 min C/D I would love to have these goggles because I will count of my labs so quickly.
I've used the FORM goggles for nearly a year and I think they are a fantastic product. I was hoping that the FINIS goggles would be even better, because they are much smaller and don't come off in dives and turns. Now I just got them and tried them out this morning and must say that I am disappointed. They are smaller and more comfortable to wear, for sure. But the text is hard to read, and the information displayed is far inferior than what the FORM goggles give you. For example, they only give you 1 length splits, whereas the FORM are customizable and give you split and total time of each swim. The software looks nice, but is not as easy to use. For example, if I do a 400, I don't know why I would want to see each 25, but not get the total time? There is a lot of room for improvement on the software side, so I remain hopeful.
I agree 100%. At this point, I feel like the HUD visuals, metrics and tech are better on the Form but the larger surface area of the goggles makes the fit tricky for those goggles. The Finis goggles seem to fit more like a traditional pair of goggles which I appreciate when turning or diving. Hopefully they can update some of the software on the device to show different metrics. So glad to hear your experience. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Especially which goggles you can see the stats better and which has more flexibility in customizing the data screens. also, heart rate compatibility or accuracy. And which ones are better for open water / pool swimming
Well most of those would fall towards the Form Swim goggles. But the Finis tends to have a better fit and less leaks which is pretty important. I'd love to make a comparison video but we'll see if people are interested in the topic.
I'm going to combine all of these workouts down to one. It's just one entry per person but I think these workouts could help a lot of other people here in the comments: -- 600 wu 100 kick with fins / 100 easy, 100 pull / 100 easy 400 steady 40 seconds recovery 500 (alternating between 100 hard / 100 easy) 100 easy 500 (last 25 of every 100 was hard) 50 seconds recovery 400 increasing pace every 100 Cd and drills -- Workout: 600 wu 100 pull / 100 easy, 100 kick with fins / 100 easy 2x300 w/ 30 sec recovery 600 (200 hard / 200 steady / 200 hard) 300 w/ fins 300 pull Cd and drills -- Workout: 2x 8x50 alternating between 50 hard and 25 easy / 25 hard 15 seconds rest between each rep 100 easy between sets 2x 4x100 alternating between 100 hard and increasing pace each 25 for the 100 100 easy between sets Cd and drills -- Workout: 500 wu 100 pull / 100 easy, 100 kick with fins / 100 easy 30 seconds rest between 100’s, 20 between 50’s and 10 between 25’s 4x100 descending 100 pull / 100 easy 6x50 descending 100 pull / 100 easy 8x25 descending Cd + drills -- Workout: 500 wu 100 pull / 100 stretch, 100 kick with fins / 100 stretch 10x100 on the 2:00, dropping dropping 5 seconds every 2 (1:50->1:30) 200 easy 3x300 first 100 fast, 200 steady (regular, kick, pull) 200 easy 12x50 (25 hard/25 easy) first 4 regular, second 4 fins, third 4 pull -- Workout: 600wu 100 pull / 100 easy, 100 kick with fins / 100 easy 6x100 descending 1-6 w/ 30 seconds recovery 100 easy 6x200 on the 3:30 (or a relatively hard time for you) 100 easy 6x50 w/ 15 seconds recovery, more focused on form than speed 1-3 w/ fins 4-6 pull Cd + drills --
THESE ARE SO AFFORDABLE! Comparing to bikes, this is so affordable. I'm not a swimmer, so I'm out of my depths (get it!?), but the ability to separate and replace is nice. My work out is call "the Dolphin." Do a normal workout with your masters team, then, after wards, you need to try and get as far OUT of the water as possible, you can't push off the pool floor. Good luck...
Hi Elidio! Looks like you've been able to check out a few videos here on the channel today. 👌🏻 Yes the Finis Smart goggles added head position tracking a few months ago. Really cool in theory. Personally, I'm not sure what to do with that information. I know I'm smoother breathing to my right but do breath in both directions. This video is a bit older when the goggles first came out.
Left only with this one. The Form Swim goggle has the option to switch sides but this goggle is a bit more fixed. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Try hypoxic swimming exercises, great for improving aerobic fitness. I think it's because it's an anaerobic level. I often train myself to regain the endurance lost after long breaks.
@@mlegrand turns out, I got a defective one. Ciye called me and we did a troubleshooting but still didn't work. I am now waiting on finis to send me a new one... 🥲 I even paid $40 for expedited shipping and this happened of course 🤪
Matt- First time watcher and I love your style. I have watched both your Form review and the Finis review. My impression is that the HUD in the Form is better than the Finis but your sacrifice size to get it. You didn't mention weather there were fogging problems with either. I incorporate kick laps in my workouts and my smart watch has trouble with these if there is no arm movement so consequently, my mileage is always under reported. I would love to see a comparison. It would be cool if they could incorporate a GPS sensor for open water swims to keep you on track and on pace. Keep up the good work. I am just getting back into swimming and triathlons after a few decade layoff due to work, so I am in catch up mode.
Yes! I’m planning a comparison video soon. 👌 I haven’t had fogging issues with either because I don’t wear either enough to wear out the initial anti fog coating. I’ll touch on that in the comparison video. The Form goggle does connect to some GPS watches for open water distance. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Just diving in here, with our FORM goggles we use the same permanent, chemical-resistant anti-fog used in diving masks. After each swim, we recommend to only rinse the goggles in clean water and to let them air dry. We've found that the anti-fog will last longer too if you avoid touching the insides of the lenses so as not to affect the anti-fog coating. With regards to drills, we built a drills mode into our experience that records your kick drills as a stroke. In drills mode, time is tracked and you can adjust the estimated distance at the end of your drills. As for open water, you can connect our goggles to compatible Garmin and Apple Watches for GPS metrics and heart rate. More info - formswim.com/compatibility Please let us know if you have any other questions about our goggles as we'd be happy to share more information!
@@FORMswim - And ironically, swimming drill mode is missing from 90% of the triathlon watches I test on this channel. It's really helpful and Form swim goggles does a great job with this option for tracking total distance correctly. Thanks for responding @Form 👌
I've been fitness swimming for about 3 years and am on my second Garmin device. (currently Vivoactive HR) and have always been intrigued by the google concept versus watch. What I do think might be lacking is stroke recognition? My Garmin does a great job of deducing stroke type. Probably a lot harder for a head-mounted sensory than one on the arm. But, with that said, maybe an IM set?
Well, I have no doubt that Finis will continue to develop the recognition algorithm and stroke detection will improve. But I’d love to see a drill mode (which Garmin tends to have) for kick sets or any sets that won’t be recognized easily.
Clearly, this is where that second button could really help. Pressing it could cycle through upcoming stroke or drill. Even if you designated IM before a set, it might at lease help the device improve its stroke recognition.
Exactly, it’s a cool concept. I’m not sure we’re at a spot where I’d highly suggest them for everyone. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Nika. I really appreciate it. 👍
personally I suck at swimming, I've got one pace and it's slow and steady (keeping the HR down for longer distance tri's). but what I used to do pre covid was 100/200/300/400 and just kind of start fast and ease into the longer sets. if I had enough time I'd throw another 400 or 500 on the end. which reminds me, I need some serious time in the pool this summer!
We can certainly help to show you all your key swim metrics on our FORM goggles, as well as heart rate if that's what you'd like to keep an eye on most!
Hey Kwad, you won these Finis Smart Goggles! I need to connect with you over Instagram private message to get your address, just so I can send these your way.
A question I have about all these smart goggles is, how do they hold up after the fog coating begins to wear off? Usually after a month or so my goggles start fogging up, and I'll start spitting in them to clean the lens before each session. Only after a few months do I have to add another layer of baby shampoo. But how does the display screen hold up to fogging over time?
Yeah, that’s one good thing about these over the Form goggles. You can just replace the goggles when the anti fog coating gives out. I haven’t had this set for long enough to test to see if the computer screen starts to fog up. That’s a great question. Thank you for watching Kevin. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi, Kevin - we use the same anti-fog as used on scuba diving masks on our FORM Smart Swim Goggles. While they also come with a hard case (with ventilation) for storage. We recommend you just rinse off the lenses with tap water, and leave them to drip dry. If you need to replace the non-display side of our goggles too, we sell replacements parts too.
For me swimming is the weakest of 3 disciplines as I started swimming after 30. So my goal is not fall far behind leader group and at the same time not to exhaust myself so I can catch up on bike and run.
It’ll show pace per 100 as your swimming. It’ll need one length to get started. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Okay I'm out, I'm a backstroke only type of guy hahaha super cool goggles, hopefully as the tech evolves the price will become more reasonable! Great video as always my man.
I may have missed it... is the focus adjustable for those without great vision? (For myself, astigmatism). Don't have any cool workouts sadly, my swimming workout is "don't drown" and I've accomplished something for that workout! LOL.
Perfect workout Chris! So you have a bit of set up where you can move the display a little from side to side. I don't think you could change the focus position or the placement of the text in the projected depth of field.
Nice small size goggles ! Totally agree with you : I would appreciate a bit more sensors ability for the price (HR, GPS, Drills),.but still nice work 😄😄 Great video.agin Matt ! Very happy to have found your chanel !
My CIYE chip died after my first swim It just doesn’t work anymore Tried charging it nothing, no lights can’t connect to Bluetooth I tried reaching out to FINIS but no responds yet
@@mlegrand I was wondering to ask you that when you swim and you push off has any water seap in Cause my CIYE looks like it has droplets on it and I’m pretty sure it’s waterproof no?
This was a hat from the Race for the Cure in Vancouver Washington. I have been thinking about making something similar to this with Swim, Bike, Run, Rinse, Repeat on them. 🤔 Thanks for checking out the video.
Wow, good question. I’ll save a full answer to that for another video but my short answer would probably be the Form Swim goggles because I love open water swimming. But I much prefer the fit of this Finis goggle for lap swimming. So it probably depends on what kind of stuff each swimmer likes to do. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I may have to rewatch the Form video. That HUD blocking my view, even though you say it's not too bad, bugs me slightly. I thought the HUD for the Form is more of a projection onto the lens, which sits better with me. Now, are these in socket or on style goggles? I have issues with in socket goggles like the Speedo Vanquishers, but I love the on socket goggles like the Tyr SpecOps. I don't have a clue what kind of workout to suggest; I suck at that sort of thing. LMAO Another great video, Matt. Keep on keepin' on!
Yeah, that would be wonderful! Hope you’re enjoying the Pace 2. It’s a great watch! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Ive been debating on getting smart goggles. It’d be nice to be able to look at the distance and time as i swim. So I’m not looking at my watch in the middle of the workout
Hey matt love your review I just bought this goggles and its fantastic But i have one question though Can i sync these goggles with polar's heart rate straps? So i can monitor my heart rate while swimming?
It might be possible to connect the straps to the goggles via a Bluetooth connection but the distance from your chest to the goggles is too far for the radio wave to go through water. (Something like 700X the thickness of air 🤔) Polar makes a product called the Variety Sense that you can put on your temple for heart rate and can communicate with the Form Goggles and where you’d be able to see your Heart Rate in real time as you swim. I posted a video about it here on my channel.
@@mlegrand yeah i was thinking about the verity sense too But I don't think finis is capable of doing this right now Maybe in some future updates who knows Anyways thank you for your quick response 😊
@@meliya536 - Oh right, Finis. I was thinking of the Form Goggles. I don't think there's any way to show HR data in these goggles as of this iteration. It does have bluetooth so in theory they could update it via software to work with the Verity Sense. 🤷♂
@@ashishm5763 Strava has an elevation button that can correct for elevation issues from the watch. You can check it out on their free account. It’s only on the desktop version. 👍
As luck would have it I bumped into someone I haven’t seen in years today and she had the Form goggles. She was kind enough to let me look through them and I could read the display perfectly. She hadn’t heard of true Finis ones yet, but we both agreed Evan should take a peek through them.
@@mamadove76 - I’ve let a few people borrow the Form goggles and I think the HUD system on those are ok for people that need glasses but the Finis is a slightly different style of system. It’s more of a small scree far off on the left. So I don’t know for sure if they’d work as well for people with vision issues. 🤔
Should do a comparison for value now that form swim charges $24/month to use their goggles with only two options. 6 month or 12 month commitments! Complete garbage!!
Save 10% on these goggles with code: MattLeGrandSG over on the Finis site: www.finisswim.com/smartgoggle
But... can I run in them? 🥽 🏃♂️
Absolutely! You’d probably want the trail version that comes in camouflage.
I want this technology on sunglasses in the car, coupled with turn by turn and speed limit for the area!
Apple glasses maybe?
I appreciate that the look is sleeker than the form goggles. Of course, with new tech, function comes first then they can work on slimming it down. I don't see myself being an early adopter in this market yet but I like the concept still!
I think that’s smart Ben! It still feels like something you’d use occasionally but not something you’d switch completely away from your go to goggles towards. 🤷🏻♂️
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
Woah cool tech! Also great editing as always it makes it a joy to watch your videos.
Thank you so much Thienan! I enjoy that side of it for sure. 👌
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
I didn't even know these were in the works, so good to see a competitor to Form, it'll only make the products better, so tempted by some smart goggles. Great video dude.
Wait, you only need goggles for swimming so you’re good. 😆 But I agree a little competition is Good and I think you could easily hold off on these smart goggles for a while. 👍
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
Love the two piece idea- That's class. The shape looks so much better than the Form goggles that's for sure. I love the Form swim tech but the shape of them and lack of peripheral vision really ruins it annoyingly.
Yeah, that’s the thing about goggles. The fit, visibility and leaks have to be spot on or people aren’t going to use it. This one is better but not perfect. I’m not throwing away my other goggles just yet.
Thanks for the review! I also love seeing a comparison video on the two smart googles. Nice to see some great tech coming to swimming
Yeah Mark! I think that’d be a fun comparison. 👌 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Also, in the meantime, if you have any other questions about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles, we'd be happy to share more info!
would love to see a comparison video! both of the goggles and applications / how well it pairs or works with garmin watches and strava
The Form Swim goggles pair with some garmin watches and the apple watch to display distance data in open water swimming. This Finis goggle only connects to the smart phone to transfer data after the workout.
+1 for an in-depth hands-on comparison particularly as paired with Fénix 5/6 or Forerunner 935/945.
Would love to see how OH1, Verity Sense, HRM Tri/Swim and other hr monitors combine their metrics together with the metrics from the smart goggles (both Finis and Form).
The Form goggles seem to be integrating more third party services at the moment. I’m still hoping to compare these two smart goggles in a future video. 👌 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hey, Joseph - for sure! With our FORM Smart Swim Goggles, we connect to Polar's Verity Sense and OH1/OH1 + heart rate sensors so you can monitor your live heart rate in the goggles while pool and open water swimming. After your workout, you can review your heart rate alongside other metrics tracked by the goggles, such as time, distance, pace, stroke rate, stroke count, and more in the FORM Swim App.
In open water, the goggles also connect to compatible Garmin and Apple Watches meaning you can monitor your heart rate and GPS distance while swimming.
8 x 125 freestyle drill (25 kick with head in neutral position, arms by side, focus on kick and good hip/shoulder rotation; 25 add the right arm stroke, keeping left arm by side, breathe to left side when right arm is extended and initiating catch; 25 left arm stroke keeping right arm by side, breathe to right side when left arm is extended and initiating catch; 50 full stroke, increasing tempo slightly as you progress through the final 25. 20 seconds rest. This set helps develop timing, build and engage core strength, isolate and correct stroke weakness, improve kick and promote proper body position in the water. It should not be done fast.
Great workout and the details on the why are super helpful. I don’t think many workouts mention that and it’s super important. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
nice for down the road, between them and foam
Yeah, planning on making a comparison video soon. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand no problem and looking forward to the comparison video. I will be getting a fancy goggles after I build my gravel bike
@@bonn1771 - I think you’ll love the gravel bike most 👌
We'd be happy to share more information on our FORM goggles too, if you have any questions! Happy swimming.
The charging cable on mine broke. It's proprietary. Nothing else uses it. Finis wants $29 in shipping alone on the cable. The goggles work well and I have no problems with the blindspot they create, but why didn't they use a normal charging cable with a waterproof gasket? My mp3 player does and it cost $20.
Oh no! That's super frustrating. I wish they could have some how made this work with USB-C or something standard like that.
Open water workout, but possibly done in a pool too if there is a good spot for the run:
5 min W/U
5 X 100 exiting the water and running 50 yds between each 100 without rest, race pace
2 min rest
Repeat 5 X 100 with exit runs
5 min C/D
I would love to have these goggles because I will count of my labs so quickly.
Wow, I love this one. Excellent suggestion! 👌
I've used the FORM goggles for nearly a year and I think they are a fantastic product. I was hoping that the FINIS goggles would be even better, because they are much smaller and don't come off in dives and turns. Now I just got them and tried them out this morning and must say that I am disappointed. They are smaller and more comfortable to wear, for sure. But the text is hard to read, and the information displayed is far inferior than what the FORM goggles give you. For example, they only give you 1 length splits, whereas the FORM are customizable and give you split and total time of each swim. The software looks nice, but is not as easy to use. For example, if I do a 400, I don't know why I would want to see each 25, but not get the total time? There is a lot of room for improvement on the software side, so I remain hopeful.
I agree 100%. At this point, I feel like the HUD visuals, metrics and tech are better on the Form but the larger surface area of the goggles makes the fit tricky for those goggles. The Finis goggles seem to fit more like a traditional pair of goggles which I appreciate when turning or diving. Hopefully they can update some of the software on the device to show different metrics. So glad to hear your experience. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Especially which goggles you can see the stats better and which has more flexibility in customizing the data screens. also, heart rate compatibility or accuracy. And which ones are better for open water / pool swimming
Well most of those would fall towards the Form Swim goggles. But the Finis tends to have a better fit and less leaks which is pretty important. I'd love to make a comparison video but we'll see if people are interested in the topic.
if you want more, let me know. Just finished up a 16 week training block for 70.3 gulf coast this saturday so i got loads haha
I'm going to combine all of these workouts down to one. It's just one entry per person but I think these workouts could help a lot of other people here in the comments:
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600 wu
100 kick with fins / 100 easy, 100 pull / 100 easy
400 steady
40 seconds recovery
500 (alternating between 100 hard / 100 easy)
100 easy
500 (last 25 of every 100 was hard)
50 seconds recovery
400 increasing pace every 100
Cd and drills
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Workout:
600 wu
100 pull / 100 easy, 100 kick with fins / 100 easy
2x300 w/ 30 sec recovery
600 (200 hard / 200 steady / 200 hard)
300 w/ fins
300 pull
Cd and drills
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Workout:
2x
8x50
alternating between 50 hard and 25
easy / 25 hard
15 seconds rest between each rep
100 easy between sets
2x
4x100
alternating between 100 hard and
increasing pace each 25 for the 100
100 easy between sets
Cd and drills
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Workout:
500 wu
100 pull / 100 easy, 100 kick with fins / 100 easy
30 seconds rest between 100’s, 20 between 50’s and 10 between 25’s
4x100 descending
100 pull / 100 easy
6x50 descending
100 pull / 100 easy
8x25 descending
Cd + drills
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Workout:
500 wu
100 pull / 100 stretch, 100 kick with fins / 100 stretch
10x100 on the 2:00, dropping dropping 5 seconds every 2 (1:50->1:30)
200 easy
3x300 first 100 fast, 200 steady (regular, kick, pull)
200 easy
12x50 (25 hard/25 easy) first 4 regular, second 4 fins, third 4 pull
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Workout:
600wu
100 pull / 100 easy,
100 kick with fins / 100 easy
6x100 descending 1-6 w/ 30 seconds recovery
100 easy
6x200 on the 3:30 (or a relatively hard time for you)
100 easy
6x50 w/ 15 seconds recovery, more focused on form than speed
1-3 w/ fins
4-6 pull
Cd + drills
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Congrats to Kwad on winning these amazing Finis Smart Goggles!
Excited to get myself a smart goggle...... To help monitor my swim.
Yeah, it’s a cool technology for sure.🙌
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
THESE ARE SO AFFORDABLE! Comparing to bikes, this is so affordable. I'm not a swimmer, so I'm out of my depths (get it!?), but the ability to separate and replace is nice.
My work out is call "the Dolphin." Do a normal workout with your masters team, then, after wards, you need to try and get as far OUT of the water as possible, you can't push off the pool floor. Good luck...
Well, I wouldn't compare prices to bikes but that's one way to think about it! 😂 Great workout. I'll give it a go!
Came to this great video to check if the software really shows you your head position after track a session. Do you have some update? Best wishes.
Hi Elidio! Looks like you've been able to check out a few videos here on the channel today. 👌🏻 Yes the Finis Smart goggles added head position tracking a few months ago. Really cool in theory. Personally, I'm not sure what to do with that information. I know I'm smoother breathing to my right but do breath in both directions. This video is a bit older when the goggles first came out.
Can I wear this goggle with the coaching module on my right side?
Left only with this one. The Form Swim goggle has the option to switch sides but this goggle is a bit more fixed. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Try hypoxic swimming exercises, great for improving aerobic fitness. I think it's because it's an anaerobic level. I often train myself to regain the endurance lost after long breaks.
Will do! 👌
I just got this one delivered but when I hit the button the start swim is not coming up. What am I doing wrong?
I would reach out to Finis. Is it charged up?
@@mlegrand turns out, I got a defective one. Ciye called me and we did a troubleshooting but still didn't work. I am now waiting on finis to send me a new one... 🥲 I even paid $40 for expedited shipping and this happened of course 🤪
@@marygiampa9352 - Oh no. So sorry this happened to you. 😬
Matt- First time watcher and I love your style. I have watched both your Form review and the Finis review. My impression is that the HUD in the Form is better than the Finis but your sacrifice size to get it. You didn't mention weather there were fogging problems with either. I incorporate kick laps in my workouts and my smart watch has trouble with these if there is no arm movement so consequently, my mileage is always under reported. I would love to see a comparison. It would be cool if they could incorporate a GPS sensor for open water swims to keep you on track and on pace. Keep up the good work. I am just getting back into swimming and triathlons after a few decade layoff due to work, so I am in catch up mode.
Yes! I’m planning a comparison video soon. 👌 I haven’t had fogging issues with either because I don’t wear either enough to wear out the initial anti fog coating. I’ll touch on that in the comparison video. The Form goggle does connect to some GPS watches for open water distance. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Just diving in here, with our FORM goggles we use the same permanent, chemical-resistant anti-fog used in diving masks. After each swim, we recommend to only rinse the goggles in clean water and to let them air dry. We've found that the anti-fog will last longer too if you avoid touching the insides of the lenses so as not to affect the anti-fog coating.
With regards to drills, we built a drills mode into our experience that records your kick drills as a stroke. In drills mode, time is tracked and you can adjust the estimated distance at the end of your drills.
As for open water, you can connect our goggles to compatible Garmin and Apple Watches for GPS metrics and heart rate. More info - formswim.com/compatibility
Please let us know if you have any other questions about our goggles as we'd be happy to share more information!
@@FORMswim - And ironically, swimming drill mode is missing from 90% of the triathlon watches I test on this channel. It's really helpful and Form swim goggles does a great job with this option for tracking total distance correctly. Thanks for responding @Form 👌
I've been fitness swimming for about 3 years and am on my second Garmin device. (currently Vivoactive HR) and have always been intrigued by the google concept versus watch. What I do think might be lacking is stroke recognition? My Garmin does a great job of deducing stroke type. Probably a lot harder for a head-mounted sensory than one on the arm. But, with that said, maybe an IM set?
Well, I have no doubt that Finis will continue to develop the recognition algorithm and stroke detection will improve. But I’d love to see a drill mode (which Garmin tends to have) for kick sets or any sets that won’t be recognized easily.
Clearly, this is where that second button could really help. Pressing it could cycle through upcoming stroke or drill. Even if you designated IM before a set, it might at lease help the device improve its stroke recognition.
@@bradburgdorff4471 Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
Didn't know smart goggles were a thing. Just getting into triathlons, looks like a dope concept
Exactly, it’s a cool concept. I’m not sure we’re at a spot where I’d highly suggest them for everyone. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Nika. I really appreciate it. 👍
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
personally I suck at swimming, I've got one pace and it's slow and steady (keeping the HR down for longer distance tri's). but what I used to do pre covid was 100/200/300/400 and just kind of start fast and ease into the longer sets. if I had enough time I'd throw another 400 or 500 on the end.
which reminds me, I need some serious time in the pool this summer!
I actually like simple workouts like this. It’s good because I struggle to pace the longer stuff. Thanks for the workout Kwad!
We can certainly help to show you all your key swim metrics on our FORM goggles, as well as heart rate if that's what you'd like to keep an eye on most!
Hey Kwad, you won these Finis Smart Goggles! I need to connect with you over Instagram private message to get your address, just so I can send these your way.
@@mlegrand awesome! messaged you from @minichado 🤟🤟
I wish I had a fun workout to give you! I just follow the plan my coach gave me 🤷♀️
I do like 50y speed sets, though!
👌 Lara! Following your coach is probably the way to go! Best of luck 🤞
A question I have about all these smart goggles is, how do they hold up after the fog coating begins to wear off? Usually after a month or so my goggles start fogging up, and I'll start spitting in them to clean the lens before each session. Only after a few months do I have to add another layer of baby shampoo. But how does the display screen hold up to fogging over time?
Yeah, that’s one good thing about these over the Form goggles. You can just replace the goggles when the anti fog coating gives out. I haven’t had this set for long enough to test to see if the computer screen starts to fog up. That’s a great question. Thank you for watching Kevin. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi, Kevin - we use the same anti-fog as used on scuba diving masks on our FORM Smart Swim Goggles. While they also come with a hard case (with ventilation) for storage. We recommend you just rinse off the lenses with tap water, and leave them to drip dry. If you need to replace the non-display side of our goggles too, we sell replacements parts too.
@@FORMswim Thank you so much for reaching out!
For me swimming is the weakest of 3 disciplines as I started swimming after 30. So my goal is not fall far behind leader group and at the same time not to exhaust myself so I can catch up on bike and run.
The good news is that swimming is the least critical sport for long course triathlon.
These look super interesting! Does it show your pace per 100m while swimming or only afterwards? Keep up the great videos :)
It’ll show pace per 100 as your swimming. It’ll need one length to get started. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Okay I'm out, I'm a backstroke only type of guy hahaha super cool goggles, hopefully as the tech evolves the price will become more reasonable! Great video as always my man.
Yeah, you’re all backstroke all the time. 😆
Yeah, let’s have a comparison between the finis and form smart goggles…
Done! ✅ ua-cam.com/video/OTrH7eFuBWY/v-deo.html
I may have missed it... is the focus adjustable for those without great vision? (For myself, astigmatism). Don't have any cool workouts sadly, my swimming workout is "don't drown" and I've accomplished something for that workout! LOL.
Perfect workout Chris! So you have a bit of set up where you can move the display a little from side to side. I don't think you could change the focus position or the placement of the text in the projected depth of field.
Can you compare side by side with Form?
I’d be happy to make a video like this for you. 👌
Also, in the meantime, if you have any other questions about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles, we'd be happy to share more info!
Nice small size goggles ! Totally agree with you : I would appreciate a bit more sensors ability for the price (HR, GPS, Drills),.but still nice work 😄😄 Great video.agin Matt ! Very happy to have found your chanel !
Thanks snooki9! Yeah, the price is pretty high on this one for the feature set.
With our FORM goggles, we've got you covered with all those feature capabilities. Let us know if you have any questions.
My CIYE chip died after my first swim
It just doesn’t work anymore
Tried charging it nothing, no lights can’t connect to Bluetooth
I tried reaching out to FINIS but no responds yet
Wow, that's horrible. If you remember, come back and post whatever you figure out. They've got to replace it right?
@@mlegrand I will
@@mlegrand I was wondering to ask you that when you swim and you push off has any water seap in
Cause my CIYE looks like it has droplets on it and I’m pretty sure it’s waterproof no?
@@StubbornSerei - Yes, mine was exposed to water. It should be waterproof. 👍
@@mlegrand I’ve got send another Ciye
Let’s see if this dies after a 10 minute swim
I’ll tell you the result tomorrow
where did you get your hat?
This was a hat from the Race for the Cure in Vancouver Washington. I have been thinking about making something similar to this with Swim, Bike, Run, Rinse, Repeat on them. 🤔 Thanks for checking out the video.
Hi Matt, great review as usual. If you could only choose one pair between the two models, which one would you choose? Thanks,
Wow, good question. I’ll save a full answer to that for another video but my short answer would probably be the Form Swim goggles because I love open water swimming. But I much prefer the fit of this Finis goggle for lap swimming. So it probably depends on what kind of stuff each swimmer likes to do. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
I may have to rewatch the Form video. That HUD blocking my view, even though you say it's not too bad, bugs me slightly. I thought the HUD for the Form is more of a projection onto the lens, which sits better with me.
Now, are these in socket or on style goggles? I have issues with in socket goggles like the Speedo Vanquishers, but I love the on socket goggles like the Tyr SpecOps.
I don't have a clue what kind of workout to suggest; I suck at that sort of thing. LMAO
Another great video, Matt. Keep on keepin' on!
You are correct about the projection on the Form goggles. And both of these are in socket style so I don’t know if you’d love the fit. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand tell ya what... I'll let you know if I happen to win. This or the lottery. LOL
@@TheCelticClydesdaleShow Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
waiting for smart glass for bike, run, and swim.
anyway, I subscribed to your channel because coros pace 2 review and already bought it.
Yeah, that would be wonderful! Hope you’re enjoying the Pace 2. It’s a great watch! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Ive been debating on getting smart goggles. It’d be nice to be able to look at the distance and time as i swim. So I’m not looking at my watch in the middle of the workout
If we ever swim together, I’ll bring a few pair for you to test. I think it’d be really helpful to test before buying. 👌
For sure man. I’d be open to testing them out
@@austinalling8480 Let us know if you have any questions for us about our FORM Smart Swim Goggles - we'd be more than happy to share more info!
Hey matt love your review
I just bought this goggles and its fantastic
But i have one question though
Can i sync these goggles with polar's heart rate straps?
So i can monitor my heart rate while swimming?
It might be possible to connect the straps to the goggles via a Bluetooth connection but the distance from your chest to the goggles is too far for the radio wave to go through water. (Something like 700X the thickness of air 🤔) Polar makes a product called the Variety Sense that you can put on your temple for heart rate and can communicate with the Form Goggles and where you’d be able to see your Heart Rate in real time as you swim. I posted a video about it here on my channel.
@@mlegrand yeah i was thinking about the verity sense too
But I don't think finis is capable of doing this right now
Maybe in some future updates who knows
Anyways thank you for your quick response 😊
@@meliya536 - Oh right, Finis. I was thinking of the Form Goggles. I don't think there's any way to show HR data in these goggles as of this iteration. It does have bluetooth so in theory they could update it via software to work with the Verity Sense. 🤷♂
@@mlegrand 🙏❤️
You know, can you, you know, say you know maybe 1000 times less, you know, during this video, you know?
You know, I’ll think about but, you know, I will probably keep bumbling my talking points during these videos. You know. 👌
Hi Matt! Do you know when the give away winner will be announced?
Giveaway will close on 6/11 at 9am PST. Winners announced the next Monday. Best of luck!
@@mlegrand Thank you!
hey bud . one qstn - can i use a garmin 45 for trail running . and get accurate distance and elevation data ??
You should get accurate GPS signal but it doesn’t have an altimeter so elevation data might not be as accurate as other options.
@@mlegrand after syncing the data to strava will i get the accurate distance and elevation readings ??
@@ashishm5763 Strava has an elevation button that can correct for elevation issues from the watch. You can check it out on their free account. It’s only on the desktop version. 👍
also, do you know of any other smart goggles out or perhaps coming out soon?
Not that I've heard of lately. They're fun to review so hopefully how ever is making them will find me here and ask me to review whatever is next.
The Form goggles.
@@anthonychang1778 - Oh yeah, I was thinking of other than these two. 🤦♂️ I'm planning on comparing these two in a video here soon.
I'm curious how well this work for folks like me who need glasses (I don't wear contacts). I blind as a bat with anything up close without my glasses!
I don’t know for sure. I could have Evan test. He’s pretty blind also.
@@mlegrand please do! And then send me the shorts on it. It should at least give me a giggle.
As luck would have it I bumped into someone I haven’t seen in years today and she had the Form goggles. She was kind enough to let me look through them and I could read the display perfectly. She hadn’t heard of true Finis ones yet, but we both agreed Evan should take a peek through them.
@@mamadove76 - I’ve let a few people borrow the Form goggles and I think the HUD system on those are ok for people that need glasses but the Finis is a slightly different style of system. It’s more of a small scree far off on the left. So I don’t know for sure if they’d work as well for people with vision issues. 🤔
@@mlegrand would love to see you do a review comparing the two especially letting Evan take a look since we know he has vision issues. 😉
Is it pronounced Finis or Fenese? 😏
Interesting tech we are starting to see with goggles. Thanks for the review, Matt!
I always pronounced Finis but it’s Fenese. I probably pronounced it 12 different ways in this video. 😆
Can I enter twice? 😝
Once per customer 😆
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500 yard swim workout
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Should do a comparison for value now that form swim charges $24/month to use their goggles with only two options. 6 month or 12 month commitments! Complete garbage!!
Yeah, it might be time to revisit this issue. 😔
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