This giant beast of a residential lever lock, kindly set to me by Tallan Pick 😃🔐 it takes so, so much tension to pick it too, I had really shaky hands after all the picking! Skip to 4:15 if you don’t want my lengthy preamble and want to get straight into the picking! 😃👍
That is an amazing lock, and a great job of picking that beast. Thank you for showing the beautiful inner workings of this lock. A lock like that needs either a spectacularly Gothic vampire, or sterile Dr. Doom door to go with.
These kind of locks are pretty common in Italy (most of them also contains a slot for a secondary European cylinder lock for an extra security against picking attacks). The main feature of this lock is the interchangeable code. To change the code, the end user can simply buy a sealed bag contains the new keys and a new coded bolt, open the changing flap (located under the handle on the inside layer of the door), remove the screws that hold the old coded bolt and remove it, than replace the new coded bolt, tighten the screws and replace the flap..... definitely cheaper and easier compared to dismantle half of the armored door to change the entire locking mechanism!
@@lizzapaolia959 Iseo, Dierre, Cisa, Silca, Mottura, Antonioli and many more. Search for "serratura triplice" (lock on 3 sides) or "serratura quadrupla" (lock on 4 sides) Also, if you want extra bolts on the side (all moved by the same locking mechanism) you can add a "serratura blindata deviatore" to the locking bars.
@@lizzapaolia959 Search "serratura triplice" (lock for 3 sides) if the hinges are protected with permanent lips or bolts or "serratura quadrupla" (lock for 4 sides) if the hinges cannot be protected. You may also need "deviatore porta blindata" if you want to add more bolts driven by the same lock. Remember that there are locking mechanism designed to be embedded inside the door (the door and the frame requires a special design) and locks designed to be applied in plain sight over an existing door (of course, inside the locked room!!!)
Now that's a good lock. Love the look of the key. I really love those British screwdrivers too. As an electrician (retired) I once had a British partner, and his screwdrivers were the same handle design as yours, and I discovered how well they fit and feel in your hand, I can get almost twice as much torque than I could with typical american/Canadian handles.
Only ever mess up every lever lock i try to gut----- great looking lock----- sometimes reassuring knowing that I have no chance with it straight away---- great video
Great lock and nice demo of the picking Ash! Clear demo of the double bitting too when the key didn't work after picking once. Looks like your tension hand was in an uncomfortable position but the cachunk sound was well worth it! 👍
Wow. You have to understand the domestic risk level in some places that require this level of physical security for a home. When you see security grilles on every door and window, security fences and gated communities, you have to wonder what the hell is going on ! Compare South Africa, Spain, Italy to the UK and you almost laugh that a 6 pin Yale cylinder is considered good and likewise a 5 lever deadlock in the UK...! Cracking job there mate ! Cheers for this video 👍
Nicely done Ash. Would not like to be the Chippy fitting that lump into a door😂 . Nice to here Baldilocks being metioned he is lock Legend in my opinion and also very knowledgeable on lock picking history. 👍
Hi Lock Noob, Well picked and explained, the tapered legs on the sliders ( levers ) as you said, require additional attention, as they will go "free" before the actual gate, then another will bind, and back and forth you go! The Italians must have been speaking to Lockwood with their tapered pins! (:-))
@LockNoob is the coded bolt directly matched to the key bitting if you were to put them side by side? and are all the levers the same stamped out pattern or do the gates vary like a traditional lever?
I was asked to remove a lock from an old walk-in safe. The door was open but it took 4 people just to remove the back plate (it was that heavy). So I took the lock to a locksmith and it took 5 weeks for them to produce a key for it. It was so complicated. There was no key blank to cut from. He had to make the key from scratch. Welding, grinding ect. One key cost £560.
You think the key dimensions would allow sufficient meat on the centre tension shaft/tip of a 2 in 1. I wouldn’t mind developing a 2 in 1 for one of these, would be a change, made 3 today for the Era old English, nice easy pick to make.
@@LockNoob I was thinking more traditional Hobbes type 2 in 1, like I used to knock up for Markd and the guys on UKLS. I know that our friends at Turbodecoders have the Mottura version, gotta respect the r n d that goes into making their complex tool tips. If I had access to an EDM machine, wow, the possibilities would be immense, especially for a complex Yale impressioning tool, with rolling moving elements to allow pin descent😛😛🤣♥️
That's a residential door lock?! I assumed it was from a safe being that substantial! That's getting to the point where it'd be easier to just knock a hole in the wall than try to go through the door!
This is a pretty basic lock for basic residential doors in Italy (not even considered super secure!). Is used on armored doors (which are the standard residential doors in Italy) Of course we also use armored windows too. ... no, breach inside an Italian house trough the wall is definitely much hard than breach trough an armored door or window (we don't use wood and plaster to build houses!!!).
I know its not the best but I never count pins even on a pin tumbler. I just never got into the habit so its a skill im lacking in. If im looking for a high cut pin, ill count them to make sure I dont skip it but otherwise, find the binder and pick it!
hey there, i have a safe lock i would like to take your advice on how to pick it if possible? Its the paragon 7550 gun safe,i lost the keys and I'm wondering if i can open it before drilling the lock! Ill really appreciat your support and response.thank you!
This is called "serratura doppia mappa" (double bitting lock) because you have two bittings. One bitting is for even steps and the other is for the odd steps
I really don't envy Italian locksmiths! I'm guessing they would probably have a high tensile milling drill to drill out the bolt, as that's the part that gets replaced.
My question would be how much to charge for opening. Thanks to the fact it also requires 4 lots of picking and it's likely to break picks. And imagine picking it through wood as well. I imagine it would be a walk away or a drill job. I mean that key looks like a Safe key. How much?? How much is your door worth??? Lol
This kind of locks is pretty common in Italy (even if aren't considered safe anymore because are quite easy to pick). BTW, our houses are made with thick, strong solid walls (made with concrete, solid bricks, rocks and steel rebars), because of that, our very first layer of defense against thefts (usually the only one, unless there are some extra valuables inside) are armored doors and windows. Our external doors are made with steel (in some cases, multiple layers of steel and composite material) and we usually have armored rolling shutters and/or armored shades and/or steel bars on windows. Of course, we can still have alarms, safes or other similar things, but these are considered as extra protection and employed only if some extra protection is required.
There is something about trap mechanism on the producent website (www.dierre.com/en/products/safes-locks-cylinders-accessories/lock-trap-system) that supposedly makes the lock unlockable unless you remove the pick from the mechanism. Do you know, what this trap is, because i haven't noticed anything like this in your vid
This giant beast of a residential lever lock, kindly set to me by Tallan Pick 😃🔐 it takes so, so much tension to pick it too, I had really shaky hands after all the picking! Skip to 4:15 if you don’t want my lengthy preamble and want to get straight into the picking! 😃👍
This beast makes me wonder about the state of house security in Spain!
Great great picking there Ash my friend! I was sure you will defeat it! I´m very glad you enjoyed the lock, great video my friend
Cheers! ;o)))
Thanks again for sending this HUGE challenge Tallan, you are always finding new ways for me to keep learning!!
@@LockNoob you are more thant welcome my friend, you and your vids are always our inspiration ;o)
That is an amazing lock, and a great job of picking that beast. Thank you for showing the beautiful inner workings of this lock. A lock like that needs either a spectacularly Gothic vampire, or sterile Dr. Doom door to go with.
Glad you enjoyed it
These kind of locks are pretty common in Italy (most of them also contains a slot for a secondary European cylinder lock for an extra security against picking attacks).
The main feature of this lock is the interchangeable code.
To change the code, the end user can simply buy a sealed bag contains the new keys and a new coded bolt, open the changing flap (located under the handle on the inside layer of the door), remove the screws that hold the old coded bolt and remove it, than replace the new coded bolt, tighten the screws and replace the flap..... definitely cheaper and easier compared to dismantle half of the armored door to change the entire locking mechanism!
Very interesting and I can see how that would work!
Thank you for sharing this information. God bless 🙏
Would you mind sharing the name of the door locks they use in Italy ? We're interested in the high security locks. Thank you 🙏
@@lizzapaolia959 Iseo, Dierre, Cisa, Silca, Mottura, Antonioli and many more.
Search for "serratura triplice" (lock on 3 sides) or "serratura quadrupla" (lock on 4 sides)
Also, if you want extra bolts on the side (all moved by the same locking mechanism) you can add a "serratura blindata deviatore" to the locking bars.
@@lizzapaolia959 Search "serratura triplice" (lock for 3 sides) if the hinges are protected with permanent lips or bolts or "serratura quadrupla" (lock for 4 sides) if the hinges cannot be protected.
You may also need "deviatore porta blindata" if you want to add more bolts driven by the same lock.
Remember that there are locking mechanism designed to be embedded inside the door (the door and the frame requires a special design) and locks designed to be applied in plain sight over an existing door (of course, inside the locked room!!!)
Wow that’s an awesome lock & that’s what they have in residential doors. Truly epic. Great work mate. 👍
Thanks Daz. Have a great week mate!
My home door has a very similar lock... it is a beast indeed. Thanks for sharing!
Very cool! thanks for watching
Wow, impressive picking on that beast of a lock sir! Thanks for sharing it with us! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
One big Beast, and another GREAT PICK. You always get some Great locks my friend. My hands hurt just by seeing you pick
Thanks 👍 They were shaking for about 30 min after this lol
Wow, That is one BIG lock! With 4 "throw bolts it looks very secure. Thanks for showing the innards as well.
Thanks for watching, Gantry!!
Now that's a good lock. Love the look of the key.
I really love those British screwdrivers too. As an electrician (retired) I once had a British partner, and his screwdrivers were the same handle design as yours, and I discovered how well they fit and feel in your hand, I can get almost twice as much torque than I could with typical american/Canadian handles.
I'm in the UK and love WERA!
Thanks!
Only ever mess up every lever lock i try to gut----- great looking lock----- sometimes reassuring knowing that I have no chance with it straight away---- great video
Thanks!
Great lock and nice demo of the picking Ash! Clear demo of the double bitting too when the key didn't work after picking once. Looks like your tension hand was in an uncomfortable position but the cachunk sound was well worth it! 👍
Thank you! and yes - my poor hand lol!
Wow. You have to understand the domestic risk level in some places that require this level of physical security for a home. When you see security grilles on every door and window, security fences and gated communities, you have to wonder what the hell is going on !
Compare South Africa, Spain, Italy to the UK and you almost laugh that a 6 pin Yale cylinder is considered good and likewise a 5 lever deadlock in the UK...!
Cracking job there mate ! Cheers for this video 👍
Thanks!
RIP hands
😂😅
Its a stunning lock. I have a large Iseo lock like that but a different keyway. Great work, a tough lock to defeat, especially for a residential lock.
Thank you!
Nicely done Ash. Would not like to be the Chippy fitting that lump into a door😂 . Nice to here Baldilocks being metioned he is lock Legend in my opinion and also very knowledgeable on lock picking history. 👍
Yes, he is very understated. Great guy too!
Well Done & thanks for sharing Mr. Ash
Thanks for watching!
That is a beautiful piece of work.
It sure is. and massive lol
When I first saw the lock I thought it was from a prison.
Wow great video Thank You for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Lock Noob, Well picked and explained, the tapered legs on the sliders ( levers ) as you said, require additional attention, as they will go "free" before the actual gate, then another will bind, and back and forth you go! The Italians must have been speaking to Lockwood with their tapered pins! (:-))
Thank you Brian, stay safe friend!
wow fantastic job Ash my friend i know that feeling when it opens🇬🇧😊🤟👊😎👍
My hand couldn't take much more punishment, Leon, lol :-)
Kudos for the pick though ☺️
Thanks 👍😀
Now that's a cool door lock that good work mate
Thanks"!
Awesome Massive Endurance lock😅
Great picking!!!!!
Stay safe!!!
🐈🐾🐈🐾👍😷
Thank you 😁
When I first subbed to him he was building his own DD pick from a thumb turn euro cylinder and I gotta say it looked perfect
That was awesome for sure!
That's a very secure lock, from multiple locking bolts to a key with two lots of bitting to having to be picked four times.
It's really cool, though there are self impressioning tools tat work on this
@LockNoob is the coded bolt directly matched to the key bitting if you were to put them side by side? and are all the levers the same stamped out pattern or do the gates vary like a traditional lever?
i will have to check!
That's an house lock? OMG whats going on it that country? and I thought ours was bad enough!
That's more like something off a bank vault door LOL ;-)
lol
I was asked to remove a lock from an old walk-in safe. The door was open but it took 4 people just to remove the back plate (it was that heavy). So I took the lock to a locksmith and it took 5 weeks for them to produce a key for it. It was so complicated. There was no key blank to cut from. He had to make the key from scratch. Welding, grinding ect. One key cost £560.
Ouch!!!!
What an incredible lock. You would need to blow up the door to gain entry. Great video.
What a great lock nice job on getting a open and picking. 🙂🔐🍻
Thanks 👍
You think the key dimensions would allow sufficient meat on the centre tension shaft/tip of a 2 in 1. I wouldn’t mind developing a 2 in 1 for one of these, would be a change, made 3 today for the Era old English, nice easy pick to make.
There are already some self impresssioning tools about there for these I think :-)
@@LockNoob I was thinking more traditional Hobbes type 2 in 1, like I used to knock up for Markd and the guys on UKLS. I know that our friends at Turbodecoders have the Mottura version, gotta respect the r n d that goes into making their complex tool tips. If I had access to an EDM machine, wow, the possibilities would be immense, especially for a complex Yale impressioning tool, with rolling moving elements to allow pin descent😛😛🤣♥️
Heck yah! Sounds like you need a Western Electric😉
I DO!
How thick is the wire you use to touch the "gorges"? 2 mm? Greetings from Italy.
Turns your house into a bank vault😂
Hi, where can i buy that lock picker, can i order one from you
That's a residential door lock?! I assumed it was from a safe being that substantial! That's getting to the point where it'd be easier to just knock a hole in the wall than try to go through the door!
It really is a bit of a beast, but pretty common i believe
This is a pretty basic lock for basic residential doors in Italy (not even considered super secure!).
Is used on armored doors (which are the standard residential doors in Italy)
Of course we also use armored windows too.
... no, breach inside an Italian house trough the wall is definitely much hard than breach trough an armored door or window (we don't use wood and plaster to build houses!!!).
I know its not the best but I never count pins even on a pin tumbler. I just never got into the habit so its a skill im lacking in. If im looking for a high cut pin, ill count them to make sure I dont skip it but otherwise, find the binder and pick it!
Yeah, I am the same off camera!
hey there, i have a safe lock i would like to take your advice on how to pick it if possible? Its the paragon 7550 gun safe,i lost the keys and I'm wondering if i can open it before drilling the lock! Ill really appreciat your support and response.thank you!
I need one of these locks for my liquor cabinet...
lol
Um, what about the teeth on the other side of the key? Are both of them used to unlock this lock?
This is called "serratura doppia mappa" (double bitting lock) because you have two bittings.
One bitting is for even steps and the other is for the odd steps
I really don't envy Italian locksmiths! I'm guessing they would probably have a high tensile milling drill to drill out the bolt, as that's the part that gets replaced.
maybe an impressioning tool?
this stuff is alien tech
It feels like it!
My question would be how much to charge for opening. Thanks to the fact it also requires 4 lots of picking and it's likely to break picks. And imagine picking it through wood as well. I imagine it would be a walk away or a drill job. I mean that key looks like a Safe key. How much?? How much is your door worth??? Lol
Thief: "Pick honking big-assed monster front door lock OR break tiny window on side of house..... Hmmmmm."
LOL
exactly lol
It would be easier to bust through a brick wall than a door with that.
This kind of locks is pretty common in Italy (even if aren't considered safe anymore because are quite easy to pick).
BTW, our houses are made with thick, strong solid walls (made with concrete, solid bricks, rocks and steel rebars), because of that, our very first layer of defense against thefts (usually the only one, unless there are some extra valuables inside) are armored doors and windows.
Our external doors are made with steel (in some cases, multiple layers of steel and composite material) and we usually have armored rolling shutters and/or armored shades and/or steel bars on windows.
Of course, we can still have alarms, safes or other similar things, but these are considered as extra protection and employed only if some extra protection is required.
By the way you actually need to turn it 5 times- 5th time release the 5th smaller bolt.
So you have to only do on the side of the lock or bolts or wtv their name is, forgot
There is something about trap mechanism on the producent website (www.dierre.com/en/products/safes-locks-cylinders-accessories/lock-trap-system) that supposedly makes the lock unlockable unless you remove the pick from the mechanism. Do you know, what this trap is, because i haven't noticed anything like this in your vid
Interesting will have to check that out
I would like to send you an old lock. Would you be willing to pick it?
I can give you a choice if you like.
Drop me ab email - its in the video description :-)
This is a common lock in Poland.
hotel door lock?
House
This looks like a great lock to put on my front door- seems to provide some serious security. I wonder if they are available in the States
When I first saw it I thought it was a vault lock.🤔
It feels like it!
i have this on my door in croatia the whole door is 100kg
Residential?? Who lives in a bunker?
lol