That was a horrible call!!! They did that for one reason and that is they did not want the public to see how an innocent (only charged) man was treated BEFORE being found guilty!!
It wasn't just the trial itself that was not made public, it was literally everything surrounding the case from Gag orders on everyone involved from law enforcement to trial attorneys, PCA's sealed from public view, the ability to even put up a defence at trial at all was taken away from the defendant by the Judge who literally ruled that RA could not use the TOGDI or that other guy did it defence so essentially he was not allowed to say the crime was committed by someone other than him. The violation of constitutional and human rights in His case are absolutely outrageous and If the Indiana Supreme Court and/or US Supreme Court does not award him at a min, a new trial with a new fair and impartial judge who holds an open court so all can view the case and evidence themselves to make their own minds up if the conviction is safe should he be convicted then I don't know why the Supreme Court exists. If his case and rights have not met the level of vacating, over turning or throwing out of a conviction, then no case does. Personally, I would like to see the USSC do what it should have done last time and remove judge Gull, question the ethical practice of Nick's office and above all, slap Doug Carter with a rainbow trout right in the chops and tell him to STFU!
@WelshChappie It is very apparent you and so many others do not remember Judge Gull attempted to allow cameras in the courtroom in the beginning, The media she allowed did not follow the rules of the court so it was evident her attempt was in vain. Allen's defense team made a circus out of his case and completely disrespected and disregarded so many court rules it is disgusting. Many cases involving juveniles are kept sealed until after trial, some never unsealed.
I think what she ( Judge Gull) was trying to do was keep Baldwin & Rozzi from turning the trial into a spectacle. They knew this case was huge & used social media to turn this case into something it wasn't. They were hoping for a televised trial & looking for fame & fortune. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't have a book or movie deal i think that's what they were after.
Why is he making this about himself? Law enforcement clearly messed up, allowing a dangerous man to walk the streets for too many years. People talked about it online… that’s what people do… I know his feelings were hurt but get over it, or if it gets to you so much that you had to turn a post-sentencing press conference into your own soapbox rather than speaking of the victims, then perhaps consider a different line of work. This was not the time for venting about all the drama and gossip that went on and how it affected HIM, nor the time for defending his and his colleague’s actions. Super unprofessional and slightly unhinged in my honest opinion. This should have been a moment to remember and celebrate justice for the victims, not to air out your grievances over conspiracy theories.
They got thier #MASONIC/ODENIST #FALLGUY #MASONIC TEMPLE DARK ARTS . #SACRIFICE #UNDERGROUNDECONOMY #DELPHIS #FALLGUY #COVERUP #STAGED CRIME SCENE BROUGHT BACK AFTER2:05 AM. 2/14/17 VIA THE RIVER . MIKE " LIBBYS PREGNANT "DERICK, " I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT . 2/3/17 A PLAN WAS HACHED.
Doug Carter is despicable as a professional in law enforcement. The criminal justice system only works if defense attorneys vigorously defend their clients so that their constitutional right to have the prosecution prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt is ensured. No one loves defense attorneys who have to defend murderers. Family members of the victims are justified in having angry feelings because of the human toll such crimes take on them. Law enforcement is not justified in this kind of anger toward defense attorneys and publicly denouncing them. Doug Carter was never emotionally capable of doing this job. He made the whole thing about himself and his group of other officers from the start. He wasted our time at the 2019 press conference speaking in riddles about his religious feelings, some nonsense about "the Shack" and made it seem he was impacted more by these murders than anyone else, including the family. Now he's at it again -- its all about him, how offended he feels at the defense attorneys and how the public can hate him if they want, blah, blah, blah. My heart hurts for this family having to deal with such incompetence and confusion on top of the horrible crimes and pain they feel over losing those girls.
Wrong. The justice system would work much more efficiently if BOTH SIDES strove for one goal: justice. To have guilty people let go because of some crafty manipulation of words or rules is not justice. If a defense lawyer knows his or her client is guilty, it is a mockery of justice to have them fight tooth and nail to get their client off. You'd better clear your head and hit reset on that train of thought because the word justice does not mean dodging justice in any sense.
Those tentacles left out Shane Meehan who was a formal Correctional Officer who killed FBI agent Greg Ferency just days after turning in his report about Odonism. The Franks report Allen's attorney submitted was a report done by the FBI. Just one tentacle they didn't want the public knowing about.
Guess we will just 'have to take their word for it'... seeing as no cameras nor audio were allowed. This is not about hating you, Sir. What, are we 12? Tbis is about the complete lack of transparency when it came to court proceedings. Thats it! Thats all! Suss as all get out!
Loosing so much of the interview video from those first days and months is inexcusable. Trust in this investigation was completely destroyed by the actions of law enforcement.
Evidence cannot be destroyed. Allen is still guilty. There do need to be major reviews on how he was able to evade detection when he literally said he was at the bridge.
@ArohaStill smh. Have you read the transcripts ? What needs to be investigated is the state and the judge. It's obvious why they didn't want cameras in the courtroom
@@VtooSmoothno she simultaneously believes that police did good work to get the right guy but also that the exact same work she compliments needs to be investigated because he placed himself at the scene and went free for so long....
Anyone on this comment thread who feels the need to thank this creep for doing absolutely nothing for two innocent girls should shut the f up and do some research into this case. This is a terrible day for the American justice system!
Nonsense. 12 JURORS convicted RA, NO ONE ELSE, in only 18 hours of deliberation, unanimously, without internal differences. The many details of circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Only 7 of RA's 61 confessions were allowed. The white van, down the hill, cross the creek, the box cutter with specific details, even LE did not know until before the trial. But what is poignantly overwhelming is the Recyling CLICK that can be heard from the gun on Libby's video. The menacing sound no doubt terrified the girls. The bullet from that recycle and RA's gun matched. They are NOT DNA but close to it. The defense had ZERO other real suspects, all of which LE vetted anyway, every one of them. NOT evidence is that the Jury watched RA roll his eyes provocatively throughout the trial. RA knew he was done.
Agreed. Save the gaslighting for the blind people on this comment thread who actually believe you all investigated anything, because you were too busy covering each other's asses.
Quit saying " you wish we could see what go's on behind the scenes " . You have the powers to let it out. Yall people need to quit making excuses, and let the American people know."We the People " Doesn't that say it all. WAKE UP
The evidence was presented to the public via the public (media, family and spectators int hat court room) Too many of you sickos just want to know more for your own sick pleasure. Go seek help
Does this sound like a team that is confident in their outcome? Did Carter just tell me to leave the country if I'm not okay with blindly supporting the state when they repeatedly violate rights to get an oitcome they want?
Why is he trying to blame defense attorneys for doing their job? Or not mentioning leaks by the prosecution. All of this trial went on behind closed doors, so don't stand up there and say what we should have seen at trial when you helped keep it from being public.
He made the entire presser about himself and his feelings rather than taking the opportunity to focus on the victims like you see other law enforcement officers doing in the post-sentencing press conference. It was a very narcissistic move.
Is this guy serious ? Wtf . What you expect ppl to think when law enforcement has been secretive since day one and then no cameras allowed in the courtroom ??? This is unacceptable
“Any notion that this is connected to anything is is not correct” BRO- YOU LITERALLY TOLD US IT HAD SO MANY TENTACLES. I used to like Doug Carter, but he has ZERO INTEGRITY! HE KNOWS THIS WAS A COVERUP “the judge signed the PCA” 🙄🙄🙄
The verdict is very valid. He is guilty as sin but definitely LE has to put in better review processes and have a much better database that can run algorithms to sort information in a meaningful way by geography, distance, time, human parameters ...should be a simple thing that can help deal with clerical issues and LE who cannot keep track of information due to volume. If this case was factored measurably early on, Richard Allen would have been a suspect within weeks. I mean, really, the verdict, while just, took way too long.
I can’t wait for the real truth to come out. The prosecutions case was ridiculous. Blind Betty could see they have the wrong guy. Lazy, corrupt law enforcement in Carroll County.
I still think all of LE, the Judge and the Indiana Supreme Court is part of this huge cover-up. I still believe that there are many more involved than Richard Allen.
Only COMPLETE morons believe this conviction was a conspiracy. Stupid is forever. Not everyone gets to be smart and possess basic common sense. Hopefully y’all have other qualities.
Doug carter... You're a joke.. The investigators do you have working underneath you are an even bigger joke.. You guys fumbled this whole investigation.. The families of the two precious girls Should be livid with your Police departments lack of Investigative training, Lack of ability to preserve the structural integrity of a crime scene.. I can't. Believe that you think you actually did a good job.. It took you. What 6-7 years to finally railroad somebody into that position.. All because the greatest detectives that you ever seen lost so much Physical evidence, vital tips and god knows what else.. the nerve to think that you guys actually did a good job.. And now you're on the news attacking the defense lawyers trying to turn everybody on them..WOW
Dougie dougie dougie JUST STOP you know YOU know who really did this and that there was more then one person and that they are "probably in that room with you". What a disgrace you people are to our justice system.
@marissarosaful for the same reason to look at this sketch of a person of interest, now disregard that one, look at this new one, well now it may be a mix of the two sketches, but it's not a picture gibberish.
I would feel a massive sense of relief if I honestly thought they had the right guy. Having followed up close the day by day reporting of lawyers who travelled to Delphi to report in depth all the goings on I am in no way convinced that Richard Allen is guilty of this crime. It's too long to go into on a short comment ,and outrage over the crime itself is of course totally understandable as it was gruesome and horrendous. I just feel that this case was poorly investigated to put it mildly and yes I do think there was a wish to convict someone. The problem is that you cannot just convict that wrong person and think that is an acceptable resolution. It is my opinion that Richard Allen and his family have been put through hell by this. The judge made it nigh on impossible for people to get any real insight and like I say only Andrea Burkhart and Lawyer Lee and one or two others who sat in court day in day out and made copious notes could provide us with the true picture. I sincerely hope that Richard Allen wins his appeal and my heart goes out to everyone; the victim's family's of course but also to Richard Allen and his family.
....there should not be any "attaboys" or "any slaps on the back, quit with the "great jobs"....there was never any real evidence that warranted this so-called "conclusion". Not well done, and no one should forget what happened here, and no; no one should be asked to tell you and your kids that you did everything that you could have possibly done to achieve "justice rendered" for the murdered girls and their families....and please, do try to save some of your self-serving respect.
Our constitution matters. Don't tell me to grow up. I've seen justice procurred by very fine people of integrity. And, I know when it has not happened. If everything was as it turned out, it should not have taken years. Follow the money. Yeah, there's that.
R.A is the bridge guy, he reported himself. He did that after the picture of Bridge Guy was on the news. As his wife said =You said you were on the trail,not the brigde!! His defense laywers leaking nude pix of 2 murded teenagers. Vile...
@@j.m.221 Judging by all the creepers around, pick one, or several. Please explain the hair found around Abby's finger and btw, not tested immediately!
"The public talking on the Internet and the meanie defense team almost ruined our big case! Also, thanks to the volunteer who solved the case for us. It was all just a silly clerical error rhe whole time!' 🙄😒
Im sorry I still think his confessions were forced and it was a ritual murder. The blood. They got away with it. Those Odin creeps. Why is Doug always SO UNHINGED?
RA is guilty. The defense sent case information to the wrong person, leaked Franks memo and did not protect crime scene photos. I watch and follow many trials and this is not how most defense attorneys conduct themselves. Yes it is there job, but how they conducted themselves has been shocking to me.
So, can someone please tell me what the evidence against Richard Allen is? I mean, other than torturing and traumatizing him into way too many confessions. Oh and Doug, what happened to the tentacles? One more question. When are you going to release the “Bridge Guy” video in it’s entirety?
Well Well that was rough!! Trying to act emotional and couldn't shed a tear, but tried very hard. You don't ❤ the spotlight, and the entire country has had an eye on this case including lawyers and the consensus is overwhelming NOT in your favor buddy
Wrong. That’s a story put out by the police. In the original video, “bridge guy” is very far away and is shown so briefly you don’t even see him. Libby was not recording him. She probably didn’t even know he was there. Only after the police got done messing around with the video are you able to see him.
Wonder if the tentacles were in the prepared statement. I hope he explains the tentacles statement he previously made before the gag order lifted. I think I know, but not sure.
They claim a volunteer found the magical tip that had been cleared at the time, yet not entered into the database as per protocol. Then Carter gets on here and blamed the death of a veteran that their guy Holman bullied into offing himself on the defense?! No, these guys don't deserve applause. They deserve the legacy they have earned.
@@CJK78it’s not fair when the judge won’t allow exculpatory evidence to be presented in trial. Geofencing alone would clear his name. He was never at the crime scene and geofencing proves this.
I still have questions regarding Allen's being involved. I am not saying he's innocent. Just that I was not convinced. But then again, the average person wasn't told everything either.
She is going on the same information available to you. Are you just regurgitating what you have been told. Why in the world would someone need to know a judge personally to be able to comment on their legal performance?
What did Richard Allen know? He kind of trailed off and I was unclear on what he was saying. World’s weirdest press conference in my opinion. Attacking the defense attorneys is not OK and why in the world are they all so defense. Doug Carter’s care and emotional attachment to the case are genuine but he appears completely unhinged in my opinion.
Allen's defense team was adjudicated to be "sloppy, negligent, and incompetent" after a March 2024 contempt hearing. So why do you think those clowns should be immune from criticism?
These are the type that make us distrust and honestly despise law enforcement. I’m sickened by this man and I truly believe he knows Allen is an innocent man. Shame on you!!!
Unfortunate it took so long. Allen is bridge guy and bridge guy is the sick killer. Just not a good system in place where you had a gaming or park's official speaking with someone who placed himself at the murder site on the day of the crime and only came forward after it was revealed there was a sketch. Red flags should have been going off in that officer's head. Police should have reviewed everyone at the bridge again within weeks. yes, a clerical error was made but it should have been reviewed earlier. Pray this murderer didn't go after anyone else in the 5 years he was free. He is off the streets and those poor families can at least have that small comfort that their girls' very likely saved other lives. May he not know a moment of peace.
@@ArohaStillthere is no “bridge guy” the video was “enhanced “ by LE… and if there was a “bridge guy” to see he was so far away in the video that it was impossible to see his face… Besides that, Doug Carter said the young guy sketch, “ is the man responsible for the murders of the girls and is the guy on the bridge” Richard Allen does not look like the young guy!
@NancyDrew1011-fh6fb the video exists lol and Carter said the perpetrator is a mix of vlboth sketches. The yojnger sketch came from an older witness and the older sketch came from a younger witness. See how that works..very common. The guy was at the scene of the crime and a bullet from.his gun under the girls...he gave details oonly the killer would know...he is a child killer yet all you delusional lonely people want to set him free
Most journalists are paid to report on the narrative that the big media conglomerates want them to report on. That’s why common folks watch UA-camrs that were inside. A couple of them mentioned that some of the evidence was sketchy
😂😂I don’t believe this at all. This is just trying to save face. Trying to get back at the ones who said something. This guy does not understand. What rank is he? Can we check his wage and other things. Something smells so bad here. So very bad and this is the last time you’ll hear about it. They got it swept under the rug. They just not dropped the carpet back over this. And. That’s all Ladies and gents. WOW
ABBY and Libby did not receive justice today they cannot rest because their case is not solved and these depraved individuals have now completely railroaded an innocent man I hope no more children get hurt with the murderers still running free
@@ElementalDivinity And? It’s Indiana law! Every court in Indiana has the same right to say no and they do! All you crybabies act like she’s the only one! Everyone of you know darn well if it was your child? You wouldn’t even want the doors open! So just shut up! Stop 🛑 move on! Karma comes around, and when it does it bites hard! I’ll be here watching when it does!
I'm still waiting for the evidence that was being held "close to the vest". It went from a folder in a drawer marked 'Cleared' to : give me that white-out, this is the killer.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU to all of you and the entire law enforcement community for what you did to find justice for these girls and their families. Thank you for speaking from your heart. Thank you to the judge and jury. The evidence could not have been clearer. The sentence is appropriate. You are all so very appreciated.
Thank GOD for the volunteer who found the report and flagged it for follow up!!!! Any “mistakes” made are human mistakes. Delphi was crawling with FBI, local and state police using every tool in their toolbox. A human also was the one who found the report. I don’t believe there were any bad intentions or sloppy work on purpose- especially bc this case was centered on children.
Can we see Libby’s whole video now? Not just what has been chosen for us to see.
We dont need to see it
Probably not, because it's not what Carter said what it was for 7.5yrs
@@williamrae9954Dougie is a fraud!
read the room ... this isn't about you
No. You are not owed that. It should never be seen by the public.
By not allowing this trial to be public it just contributed to the conspiracy theories. This was a bad call.
I think the utter incompetence, piles of DNA not RA's, and exclusion of cell location data and geofencing went a long way to SCREAM cover up.
That was a horrible call!!! They did that for one reason and that is they did not want the public to see how an innocent (only charged) man was treated BEFORE being found guilty!!
It wasn't just the trial itself that was not made public, it was literally everything surrounding the case from Gag orders on everyone involved from law enforcement to trial attorneys, PCA's sealed from public view, the ability to even put up a defence at trial at all was taken away from the defendant by the Judge who literally ruled that RA could not use the TOGDI or that other guy did it defence so essentially he was not allowed to say the crime was committed by someone other than him.
The violation of constitutional and human rights in His case are absolutely outrageous and If the Indiana Supreme Court and/or US Supreme Court does not award him at a min, a new trial with a new fair and impartial judge who holds an open court so all can view the case and evidence themselves to make their own minds up if the conviction is safe should he be convicted then I don't know why the Supreme Court exists.
If his case and rights have not met the level of vacating, over turning or throwing out of a conviction, then no case does. Personally, I would like to see the USSC do what it should have done last time and remove judge Gull, question the ethical practice of Nick's office and above all, slap Doug Carter with a rainbow trout right in the chops and tell him to STFU!
@WelshChappie It is very apparent you and so many others do not remember Judge Gull attempted to allow cameras in the courtroom in the beginning, The media she allowed did not follow the rules of the court so it was evident her attempt was in vain. Allen's defense team made a circus out of his case and completely disrespected and disregarded so many court rules it is disgusting. Many cases involving juveniles are kept sealed until after trial, some never unsealed.
I think what she ( Judge Gull) was trying to do was keep Baldwin & Rozzi from turning the trial into a spectacle. They knew this case was huge & used social media to turn this case into something it wasn't. They were hoping for a televised trial & looking for fame & fortune. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't have a book or movie deal i think that's what they were after.
Why is he making this about himself? Law enforcement clearly messed up, allowing a dangerous man to walk the streets for too many years. People talked about it online… that’s what people do… I know his feelings were hurt but get over it, or if it gets to you so much that you had to turn a post-sentencing press conference into your own soapbox rather than speaking of the victims, then perhaps consider a different line of work.
This was not the time for venting about all the drama and gossip that went on and how it affected HIM, nor the time for defending his and his colleague’s actions. Super unprofessional and slightly unhinged in my honest opinion. This should have been a moment to remember and celebrate justice for the victims, not to air out your grievances over conspiracy theories.
Seeing how they handled this, all the way back to the very beginning, what makes you think they managed to get the right person?
I was thinking the same
When he was arrested, the whole press conference was this guy slobbering all over himself and the cops for what a good job they did 🙄
They got thier #MASONIC/ODENIST #FALLGUY
#MASONIC TEMPLE DARK ARTS .
#SACRIFICE #UNDERGROUNDECONOMY
#DELPHIS #FALLGUY #COVERUP #STAGED CRIME SCENE BROUGHT BACK AFTER2:05 AM.
2/14/17 VIA THE RIVER .
MIKE " LIBBYS PREGNANT "DERICK, " I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT .
2/3/17 A PLAN WAS HACHED.
Holder and Patty and mcclellan and carter are #MASONIC /#ODENISTS FACT .
Doug Carter is despicable as a professional in law enforcement. The criminal justice system only works if defense attorneys vigorously defend their clients so that their constitutional right to have the prosecution prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt is ensured. No one loves defense attorneys who have to defend murderers. Family members of the victims are justified in having angry feelings because of the human toll such crimes take on them. Law enforcement is not justified in this kind of anger toward defense attorneys and publicly denouncing them.
Doug Carter was never emotionally capable of doing this job. He made the whole thing about himself and his group of other officers from the start. He wasted our time at the 2019 press conference speaking in riddles about his religious feelings, some nonsense about "the Shack" and made it seem he was impacted more by these murders than anyone else, including the family. Now he's at it again -- its all about him, how offended he feels at the defense attorneys and how the public can hate him if they want, blah, blah, blah. My heart hurts for this family having to deal with such incompetence and confusion on top of the horrible crimes and pain they feel over losing those girls.
Wrong. The justice system would work much more efficiently if BOTH SIDES strove for one goal: justice. To have guilty people let go because of some crafty manipulation of words or rules is not justice. If a defense lawyer knows his or her client is guilty, it is a mockery of justice to have them fight tooth and nail to get their client off. You'd better clear your head and hit reset on that train of thought because the word justice does not mean dodging justice in any sense.
So much information remains a secret…remember all the “tentacles” of this crime???
Right now just one man did it ? This is very suspicious...
Right. Whatever happened to all those tentacles Doug has been talking about for years? They appear to have disappeared...
Those tentacles left out Shane Meehan who was a formal Correctional Officer who killed FBI agent Greg Ferency just days after turning in his report about Odonism. The Franks report Allen's attorney submitted was a report done by the FBI. Just one tentacle they didn't want the public knowing about.
Exactly!!
Guess we will just 'have to take their word for it'... seeing as no cameras nor audio were allowed. This is not about hating you, Sir. What, are we 12? Tbis is about the complete lack of transparency when it came to court proceedings. Thats it! Thats all!
Suss as all get out!
@@NinjaOrchids go tead the transcripts you lazy cow...they are public record
He said he will tell the story.
All the tentacles, the shack.
He talks on riddles
@peterba854 he does. One day you will know what we know….. turns out we know not much more than we already did…..
@@pelicanvibeand how much of that is the truth anyway?...
Corruption at its finest this will get a retrial easy
Depending on how high up the corruption goes, unfortunately.
Loosing so much of the interview video from those first days and months is inexcusable. Trust in this investigation was completely destroyed by the actions of law enforcement.
Including Doug Carter. Don’t believe him for a second
Pretty incredible that they "lost" anything when it came to this case.
Evidence cannot be destroyed. Allen is still guilty. There do need to be major reviews on how he was able to evade detection when he literally said he was at the bridge.
@ArohaStill smh. Have you read the transcripts ? What needs to be investigated is the state and the judge. It's obvious why they didn't want cameras in the courtroom
@@VtooSmoothno she simultaneously believes that police did good work to get the right guy but also that the exact same work she compliments needs to be investigated because he placed himself at the scene and went free for so long....
Anyone on this comment thread who feels the need to thank this creep for doing absolutely nothing for two innocent girls should shut the f up and do some research into this case. This is a terrible day for the American justice system!
Nonsense. 12 JURORS convicted RA, NO ONE ELSE, in only 18 hours of deliberation, unanimously, without internal differences. The many details of circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Only 7 of RA's 61 confessions were allowed. The white van, down the hill, cross the creek, the box cutter with specific details, even LE did not know until before the trial.
But what is poignantly overwhelming is the Recyling CLICK that can be heard from the gun on Libby's video. The menacing sound no doubt terrified the girls. The bullet from that recycle and RA's gun matched. They are NOT DNA but close to it. The defense had ZERO other real suspects, all of which LE vetted anyway, every one of them. NOT evidence is that the Jury watched RA roll his eyes provocatively throughout the trial. RA knew he was done.
You didn't prove your case. At all. Go fake that bs somewhere else.
Apparently they did! 130 years 😂
You alllen groupies are disgusting tbh
💯agreed
You make no sense
Agreed. Save the gaslighting for the blind people on this comment thread who actually believe you all investigated anything, because you were too busy covering each other's asses.
Quit saying " you wish we could see what go's on behind the scenes " . You have the powers to let it out. Yall people need to quit making excuses, and let the American people know."We the People "
Doesn't that say it all.
WAKE UP
The evidence was presented to the public via the public (media, family and spectators int hat court room) Too many of you sickos just want to know more for your own sick pleasure. Go seek help
Does this sound like a team that is confident in their outcome? Did Carter just tell me to leave the country if I'm not okay with blindly supporting the state when they repeatedly violate rights to get an oitcome they want?
Exactly!!
Yeah, why'd you fire the FBI, Doug? What's up with that?
Right!
Exactly!!
You can’t articulate the process because y’all deleted everything
Allen is a patsy and this dude knows who really did it.
Carter is a liar!
It's fascinating how much he is gaslighting here. Taking NO accountability for mistakes by law enforcement. He should be ashamed of himself.
Exactly
That's because law enforcement framed Allen.
Why is he trying to blame defense attorneys for doing their job? Or not mentioning leaks by the prosecution. All of this trial went on behind closed doors, so don't stand up there and say what we should have seen at trial when you helped keep it from being public.
Closed doors lol There was media in there every day lol Go look up what a pbulic trial means. Public does not equal TV dumbass
Corrupt as Hell👍
I don’t trust Doug Carter. He gives me dark vibes and I can’t put my finger on it but he does…
Bad acting is what I see. He has been successful with his con-man evangelical charade. I see through that act. Ted Buddy vibes
@ 💯
I don't get honesty from him
Yes he's as crooked as they come
He made the entire presser about himself and his feelings rather than taking the opportunity to focus on the victims like you see other law enforcement officers doing in the post-sentencing press conference. It was a very narcissistic move.
Is this guy serious ? Wtf . What you expect ppl to think when law enforcement has been secretive since day one and then no cameras allowed in the courtroom ??? This is unacceptable
“Any notion that this is connected to anything is is not correct” BRO- YOU LITERALLY TOLD US IT HAD SO MANY TENTACLES. I used to like Doug Carter, but he has ZERO INTEGRITY! HE KNOWS THIS WAS A COVERUP “the judge signed the PCA” 🙄🙄🙄
Elvis confessed and his spit was on Abby!!
THIS.
This whole thing is embarrassing for the state they really need to examine this, so much more has come out that makes the verdict harder to swallow
The verdict is very valid. He is guilty as sin but definitely LE has to put in better review processes and have a much better database that can run algorithms to sort information in a meaningful way by geography, distance, time, human parameters ...should be a simple thing that can help deal with clerical issues and LE who cannot keep track of information due to volume. If this case was factored measurably early on, Richard Allen would have been a suspect within weeks. I mean, really, the verdict, while just, took way too long.
He just has such a dishonest disposition. We will never forget all those tentacles you were talking about sir
Feel so sorry for Abbie & Libby. 🥺
One day youll get the justice you deserve ♥️
Because today is NOT the day.
@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx no. Not today. 🥺
I can’t wait for the real truth to come out. The prosecutions case was ridiculous. Blind Betty could see they have the wrong guy. Lazy, corrupt law enforcement in Carroll County.
A jury of 12 people who saw all evidence a deliberated for four days, disagree with you.
@sarahbiddy4141 But Did they though .. ? 🤔
I still think all of LE, the Judge and the Indiana Supreme Court is part of this huge cover-up. I still believe that there are many more involved than Richard Allen.
We wish we could have been in the courtroom too. That is why we have so many conspiracy theories. Not enough transparency.
Then go read the transcripts. Every single word uttered in that court room has been transcribed.
Reading transcripts is not the same as seeing the testimony from the witnesses.
Only COMPLETE morons believe this conviction was a conspiracy.
Stupid is forever.
Not everyone gets to be smart and possess basic common sense.
Hopefully y’all have other qualities.
You don't have the right to know absolutely everything.
@@lornabow2111 Doesn't matter.
Doug carter... You're a joke.. The investigators do you have working underneath you are an even bigger joke.. You guys fumbled this whole investigation.. The families of the two precious girls Should be livid with your Police departments lack of Investigative training, Lack of ability to preserve the structural integrity of a crime scene.. I can't.
Believe that you think you actually did a good job.. It took you.
What 6-7 years to finally railroad somebody into that position.. All because the greatest detectives that you ever seen lost so much Physical evidence, vital tips and god knows what else.. the nerve to think that you guys actually did a good job.. And now you're on the news attacking the defense lawyers trying to turn everybody on them..WOW
Think you have the wrong guy. If so you still have a murderer in your town 😮
Well Doug, I don't find your words to be genuine.
Every time he sniffs his nose - he lying. Sniffing seems to keep his nose from growing. 😂😂😂
@Tsadie1 did you happen to catch the press conference from the prosecutor, Doug was in back of him . Watch that guy Doug.✌️
LIAR
@@Tsadie1 The nose candy sniffles
Dougie dougie dougie JUST STOP you know YOU know who really did this and that there was more then one person and that they are "probably in that room with you". What a disgrace you people are to our justice system.
💯💯💯DC is LYING
If he is not going to read his prepared remarks, why does he keep looking down at them?
I noticed the same thing
@marissarosaful for the same reason to look at this sketch of a person of interest, now disregard that one, look at this new one, well now it may be a mix of the two sketches, but it's not a picture gibberish.
I have a huge amount of respect for this man!
Thats a dumb back woods cop right there
But why did Doug Carter call off the FBI?
They were on the case for 4 years. It was never their jurisdiction. They never found probable cause on anyone.
@SP-in7xv
I believe the FBI had probable cause to search Ron Logan's property
Right after saying “if you don’t like the justice in this country, then leave” he says “let’s tone down the rhetoric” 😂
I would feel a massive sense of relief if I honestly thought they had the right guy. Having followed up close the day by day reporting of lawyers who travelled to Delphi to report in depth all the goings on I am in no way convinced that Richard Allen is guilty of this crime. It's too long to go into on a short comment ,and outrage over the crime itself is of course totally understandable as it was gruesome and horrendous.
I just feel that this case was poorly investigated to put it mildly and yes I do think there was a wish to convict someone. The problem is that you cannot just convict that wrong person and think that is an acceptable resolution. It is my opinion that Richard Allen and his family have been put through hell by this. The judge made it nigh on impossible for people to get any real insight and like I say only Andrea Burkhart and Lawyer Lee and one or two others who sat in court day in day out and made copious notes could provide us with the true picture.
I sincerely hope that Richard Allen wins his appeal and my heart goes out to everyone; the victim's family's of course but also to Richard Allen and his family.
Oh please!!! He is GUILTY!
Praying for a baby killer is nuts
He's on video and his bullet and so much more.he writes letters detailing what he donrle which only a killer would know.
He will get no appeal hearing. On what cause?
....there should not be any "attaboys" or "any slaps on the back, quit with the "great jobs"....there was never any real evidence that warranted this so-called "conclusion". Not well done, and no one should forget what happened here, and no; no one should be asked to tell you and your kids that you did everything that you could have possibly done to achieve "justice rendered" for the murdered girls and their families....and please, do try to save some of your self-serving respect.
There is PLENTY of evidence 😂
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You didn't try your best
Our constitution matters.
Don't tell me to grow up. I've seen justice procurred by very fine people of integrity. And, I know when it has not happened.
If everything was as it turned out, it should not have taken years.
Follow the money. Yeah, there's that.
Allen is not bridge man. I hope someday the truth will come out and he will be freed.
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😂😂
R.A is the bridge guy, he reported himself. He did that after the picture of Bridge Guy was on the news. As his wife said =You said you were on the trail,not the brigde!! His defense laywers leaking nude pix of 2 murded teenagers. Vile...
Who is it then??? Go on, tell us!
@@j.m.221 Judging by all the creepers around, pick one, or several.
Please explain the hair found around Abby's finger and btw, not tested immediately!
Not only did you not " live " by the gag order
you failed to live by your oath
will you always be proud of that doug
If justice was served ( it wasnt imo) why does mr carter seem so angry still..?
"The public talking on the Internet and the meanie defense team almost ruined our big case! Also, thanks to the volunteer who solved the case for us. It was all just a silly clerical error rhe whole time!' 🙄😒
why Doug sniffing and snorting every press conference for the past 7 years...
and yeah we know you ain't no detective
Im sorry I still think his confessions were forced and it was a ritual murder. The blood. They got away with it. Those Odin creeps. Why is Doug always SO UNHINGED?
There is so much of this case that sounds fishy, why all the secrecy, why come up and defend purported coverups but then not be transparent
💯 agree
Shame on you Carter
I smell a cover up.
RA is guilty. The defense sent case information to the wrong person, leaked Franks memo and did not protect crime scene photos. I watch and follow many trials and this is not how most defense attorneys conduct themselves. Yes it is there job, but how they conducted themselves has been shocking to me.
You were not transparent in this case, what were they hiding. The word is watching
Doug Carter is a liar. No transparency in this case
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Ja, and they didn’t see all the evidence 🤬
This guy is so self-indulgent.
Liar liar pants on fire 🔥 put in a jail an innocent man use him as a scapegoat
So, can someone please tell me what the evidence against Richard Allen is? I mean, other than torturing and traumatizing him into way too many confessions. Oh and Doug, what happened to the tentacles? One more question. When are you going to release the “Bridge Guy” video in it’s entirety?
Lol
Can I ask about tentacles? I wasn’t following this case from the beginning so I might miss something. Genuine question.
@ In one of Doug’s dramatic press conferences, he stated that this case was complex and had “many tentacles”.
@@solfly6He also claimed the suspect sketches were all the same person 😂🤡
He admitted to being the man on the bridge, and his car was parked near the entrance to the trails. A cartridge found with the bodies matched his gun.
Who are the other perpetrators involved that you and McLeland mentioned in your previous press conferences???
Well Well that was rough!! Trying to act emotional and couldn't shed a tear, but tried very hard. You don't ❤ the spotlight, and the entire country has had an eye on this case including lawyers and the consensus is overwhelming NOT in your favor buddy
Dude has always acted like the star. He should loose his job for failing.
IT WAS NOT JUSTICE. YEAH YOU TRIED TO NAIL AN INNOCENT MAN.
Her phone recording solved her own murder just sad it took so long
I mean, it kinda didn't. What solved this was Richard allen placing himself on the bridge as an eye witness saw him.
well said 🙏🏻🦋
No it didn't
Wrong. That’s a story put out by the police. In the original video, “bridge guy” is very far away and is shown so briefly you don’t even see him. Libby was not recording him. She probably didn’t even know he was there. Only after the police got done messing around with the video are you able to see him.
@@rsnay
Omg. What a dumb comment.
Shady AF
Carter seems a bit unhinged 🤔
Will doug carter tell the story now? Solve the riddles
Human beings indeed!!! Bless you all for your service
I 100 percent support police officers but Its beyond reason when you really look into all the things that happened in this case.
He likes the sound of his own voice like a preacher
Wonder if the tentacles were in the prepared statement. I hope he explains the tentacles statement he previously made before the gag order lifted. I think I know, but not sure.
You are lying dc
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You got the wrong guy. Which means the killer is still out there!
Bullshit
Thank you, all of law enforcement for never giving up on this case
🙏🏻🦋 well said 👏🏻
The irony of this statement
They claim a volunteer found the magical tip that had been cleared at the time, yet not entered into the database as per protocol. Then Carter gets on here and blamed the death of a veteran that their guy Holman bullied into offing himself on the defense?! No, these guys don't deserve applause. They deserve the legacy they have earned.
@@possumfriend2335I second this comment‼️‼️
😂😂😂
Justice wasn’t served because he didn’t receive a fair and just trial. The jury didn’t get to see all the evidence.
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Thank you and damn right. He got the choo choo train.
Oh BS! He absolutely had a fair trial. He’s not only a confessed killer but now he’s a convicted killer 🔥
They seen his letters detailing the crime only the killer would know the video his bullet at the crime scene and so much more
@@CJK78it’s not fair when the judge won’t allow exculpatory evidence to be presented in trial. Geofencing alone would clear his name. He was never at the crime scene and geofencing proves this.
I still have questions regarding Allen's being involved. I am not saying he's innocent. Just that I was not convinced. But then again, the average person wasn't told everything either.
LE leaked those photos long before defense ever had them.
GULL is the worst judge that ever sat on a bench in a court room
And you know her personally? Or you're just regurgitating what others have said?
Lmao go write Dick Allen and be his prison wife
You can be Richie Boy’s pen pal
She is going on the same information available to you. Are you just regurgitating what you have been told. Why in the world would someone need to know a judge personally to be able to comment on their legal performance?
She’s a vile human being
He blames everything on the defense😂 Doug Carter is so damn fake.
Still not buying into this guys bs
😂😂😂
Same 💯
Preacher Carter in sheep’s clothing.
@ exactly. He had me fooled at first I’m not gonna lie
Totally thought he was an authentic good guy… Man was I wrong.
What did Richard Allen know? He kind of trailed off and I was unclear on what he was saying. World’s weirdest press conference in my opinion. Attacking the defense attorneys is not OK and why in the world are they all so defense. Doug Carter’s care and emotional attachment to the case are genuine but he appears completely unhinged in my opinion.
Imo Doug Carter is involved
He says drop the politics while being political. It's definitely suspect.
Allen's defense team was adjudicated to be "sloppy, negligent, and incompetent" after a March 2024 contempt hearing. So why do you think those clowns should be immune from criticism?
@ yes the judge said that but you left out the part where the Supreme Court said she was wrong.
They sure love the limelight don't they DR Phil all bs
These are the type that make us distrust and honestly despise law enforcement. I’m sickened by this man and I truly believe he knows Allen is an innocent man. Shame on you!!!
looks like he is SPINNNNNNNING again
LIAR LIAR LIAR AND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU
Eight years, and you can walk to CVS from the police station in three minutes.
Maybe each step of the way was a tentacle
Unfortunate it took so long. Allen is bridge guy and bridge guy is the sick killer. Just not a good system in place where you had a gaming or park's official speaking with someone who placed himself at the murder site on the day of the crime and only came forward after it was revealed there was a sketch. Red flags should have been going off in that officer's head. Police should have reviewed everyone at the bridge again within weeks. yes, a clerical error was made but it should have been reviewed earlier. Pray this murderer didn't go after anyone else in the 5 years he was free. He is off the streets and those poor families can at least have that small comfort that their girls' very likely saved other lives. May he not know a moment of peace.
@@ArohaStillpray the murderer doesn't go after anyone now that they think they are free....
@@ArohaStillthere is no “bridge guy” the video was “enhanced “ by LE… and if there was a “bridge guy” to see he was so far away in the video that it was impossible to see his face… Besides that, Doug Carter said the young guy sketch, “ is the man responsible for the murders of the girls and is the guy on the bridge” Richard Allen does not look like the young guy!
@NancyDrew1011-fh6fb the video exists lol and Carter said the perpetrator is a mix of vlboth sketches. The yojnger sketch came from an older witness and the older sketch came from a younger witness. See how that works..very common. The guy was at the scene of the crime and a bullet from.his gun under the girls...he gave details oonly the killer would know...he is a child killer yet all you delusional lonely people want to set him free
I don’t know what people are complaining about with the lack of transparency. Journalists were still in the courtroom.
Most journalists are paid to report on the narrative that the big media conglomerates want them to report on. That’s why common folks watch UA-camrs that were inside. A couple of them mentioned that some of the evidence was sketchy
😂😂I don’t believe this at all. This is just trying to save face. Trying to get back at the ones who said something. This guy does not understand. What rank is he? Can we check his wage and other things. Something smells so bad here. So very bad and this is the last time you’ll hear about it. They got it swept under the rug. They just not dropped the carpet back over this. And. That’s all Ladies and gents. WOW
Agreeeed! 10000%
ABBY and Libby did not receive justice today they cannot rest because their case is not solved and these depraved individuals have now completely railroaded an innocent man I hope no more children get hurt with the murderers still running free
I believe it was Richard Allen
With all respect due, you are wrong.
During the trial, and for awhile, I questioned RA's innocence. I now believe it was indeed him that killed Abby and Libby.
The depraved individual is serving 130 years in prison, but keep simping for child killers weirdo.
The EVIDENCE says otherwise. Jurors are non biased individuals. They weigh the irrefutable evidence, I believe they got this right. ⚖️🔥⚖️🔥⚖️
Yes. Congrats Doug. Guilty🎉🎉
He thinks the USA is the only country on earth with freedom of speech. Geez...he needs to travel more.
The judge refused cameras in this court room, so no one could see anything live.
You act like there were no reporters there.
Because it was high profile and cameras would have been a disturbance.
Oh that must mean he’s innocent 😂
I believe the transcripts were made available
@@ElementalDivinity And? It’s Indiana law! Every court in Indiana has the same right to say no and they do! All you crybabies act like she’s the only one! Everyone of you know darn well if it was your child? You wouldn’t even want the doors open! So just shut up! Stop 🛑 move on! Karma comes around, and when it does it bites hard! I’ll be here watching when it does!
I just cannot take you seriously anymore Doug!
I don't think he cares
You cant take anyone from indiana state police seriously.... I can confirm that most of them are not very good people.
I'm still waiting for the evidence that was being held "close to the vest". It went from a folder in a drawer marked 'Cleared' to : give me that white-out, this is the killer.
@diyuquag3748 But the jury isn't going to give whatever you need to say he's guilty or not. He is, and they decided.
Great speech boss
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU to all of you and the entire law enforcement community for what you did to find justice for these girls and their families. Thank you for speaking from your heart. Thank you to the judge and jury. The evidence could not have been clearer. The sentence is appropriate. You are all so very appreciated.
Justice? Lol that's funny.
Justice? What justice?
you laugh? @JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions
Railrroading a guy...
No justice in Delphi. An innocent man is paying the price for corrupt law enforcement.
Condolences to all the families. The case isnt over however. An appeal will eventually be granted due to all the issues.
He will lose again and again and again....
Nothing to appeal. Guilty as charged.
Errors in the trial laws can be appealed not all issues.
Oh ok Miss Cleo 😅 🤡
@@AngelPrissy negative I don’t think the monster wants to appeal his wife is in denial and is also a victim of this monster.
Just think the monsters responsible for this crime could still be free. Take care people.
Retrial
Thank GOD for the volunteer who found the report and flagged it for follow up!!!! Any “mistakes” made are human mistakes. Delphi was crawling with FBI, local and state police using every tool in their toolbox. A human also was the one who found the report. I don’t believe there were any bad intentions or sloppy work on purpose- especially bc this case was centered on children.
"after 50 years in this business I've never thought about the jury "
Doug Carter is an idiot and the more he talks the more he likes to hear himself
I am tired of all the bleeding hearts saying he was innocent too.
Scam alert! Scam alert!
I agree with Mr. Carter. The conspiracies are nonsense.
Me too period
RA rolled his eyes at the judge during sentencing.
That says alot
Says fu to me.
RA is innocent.
RA was railroaded. Too much weird stuff here
😂😂😂😂okkk your nuts @@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx
Conspiracies existed because of lack of transparency