I'm the pink terran on the far right and it was such a treat to be part of this game. I watched this video for the first time today with my friends and we loved it. I definitely enjoyed playing penguin brothers, and then making Marc confused with my factory attack on his expand and my planetary in the main XD If you ever want to try a X v Protos video again I'm totally on board for that! For those wondering, I only flew those factories over there when my main base got trashed by drops. I still had 3 starports making battlecruisers on my expansion :) It's definitely a feeling of mixed emotions when I see the mistakes I made, and then Marc so happily using that opportunity to kill my army XD
@@moaiadaljamal4422 My only question is - why did you guys focus your attacks on his main mined out bases, instead of just starving him and killing off his mining bases on the left side.
@@ExecutorBG1if they would have answers to your questions they wouldnt be silvers and it wouldnt be a 4v1. Smart assing around a sliver is not good, just leave him alone I guess.
I want to be a part of his challenge as well. I’m around silver or gold. How do I get in on the action? Does he have a discord where he post challenges?
I am glad you enjoyed the spellcasting. After my base and battle cruisers were trashed, I had 2 ravens and a dream. So i was throwing out those Anti-Armour missiles to try and help. I was the pink terran on the far right base
@@Melchiorql Well we mostly ignored the team chat because we were focused on our builds. Also we were attacked at different times so our armies were at different power levels. Also, our APM is pretty low, so reading, typing and clicking on stuff is challenging.
What an insane game. Where were a couple of times where I couldn't see you holding your position but somehow you pulled through. Brillian, chaotic, absolutely Uthermal game. But now I wonder what the final question was)
That's because even if their microing ability is much lower and they usually engage in worse trades, they can do some "unexpected" moves like this PF at 40:48, that AIs can't. And these tend to sum up to be very annoying the more the game goes on.
Maybe too micro intensive but if the BC's were teleported one at a time into the spores they would die quicker and not split the spores fire as much. Also was a little paintfull later in the game when Marc forgot where the spores were and was teleporting them onto his tech buildings haha.
I have a tip if you dont have rapid fire setup on something. If your unit isnt doing anything at the moment, you can hold shift and just click with the ability a bunch of times. Its way faster than selecting, casting, selecting, casting.
what an amazing game! i thought you were dead when the bcs, libs, tanks, and marines seiged up and you only had a few units trickling in. beautiful unit control and decision making. glad i picked this video to watch :)
"I wanna take as many players out of the picture as soon possible as fast as possible" is a legit strategy! in D&D we call it action economy - if you're up against a mob, you want to thin the numbers first rather than focusing down the strongest target, otherwise you just get overwhelmed.
It's actually the ONLY strategy. Even a GM like uThermal would have no chance at winning if a bunch of Silver players are allowed to mass up 200 supply armies.
It was actually very quiet. We didn't talk much haha. Hense why we didn't group up as much as we should have but like, we're silver after all, strategy isn't our strong point... I tried to get us to group up and it didn't really happen
it was so much fun to play in this challenge there was frequent messages of people freaking out as he was invading people's bases it was so fun to participate in this challenge
@@Dohyden2 if you're ever involved in another one I think the key strategy in a 1v4 is for 2 players to go full macro and speedrun the late game units like BC's, Carriers etc and then another 2 players to proxy and cheese the hell out of him, he needs to be held back early for as long as possible to slow him down from expanding.
@@davecolwell725 Not a very honorable thing to do though is it. 4 VS 1 is already a huge advantage. but if you are doing it already, why 2 people proxy rushing. Why not 4? Silver or not I do not see any feasible way to defend a 4 man proxy rush. Glad no one is doing it tbh it would be very anticlimactic and impossible to win for a solo player. I think the moment people start doing it the rule of "worker rush forbidden" would be extended to "no proxies as well". Numbers do not lie it would be impossible to defend that.
Absolutely phenomenal gameplay, Marc. I'm wondering, why don't you (immediately) go for upgrades? Toward the end you mentioned that the corrupters were having a lot of trouble getting enough firepower. Also, this game was a masterclass in Zerg spellcasting, well done! Your use of neural parasite, teleport, and spores was inspired. What a strategy, denying so much heavy ordnance with spellcasters. Truly exciting. Great work!
Afaik neglecting the upgrades is a Marc-specific style of playing these challenges, that many other high level players would not agree with. The idea is that upgrades cost a lot and they don't help you immediately, so every time you go for upgrades, you increase the chances of losing in the next minute or two. Marc didn't have a massive bank of resources at any point in this game, and every time he would save some up, a big fight was immediately taking place and he needed all of it to remax asap. The fights were very often really close, and any of them could have possibly been a loss if too much minerals was spent on upgrades. But obviously upgrades are the better long term investment and other players on Marc's level would likely try harder to squeeze them in.
@@diosealorwh Thank you for weighing in. Yes, I imagine this frugality is really important, especially if you intend to stay in and win the "short game." Unit density and diversity over strength and power, I get it. I mean, heck, I have watched him completely destroy his opponents for months with this strategy, even in the long game. Still, I can't help but think of how devastating Marc's gameplay would be if he immediately went for all upgrades. He is already playing at such a high level that defeating him might become near to impossible.
Wow that hellbat/marine/tank push into a tiny choke against lurker hydra was peak AI play. You have to make your opponents complete a captcha before they can play, Marc.
SOO good.. the only thing that I noticed that might have been better, although it would have cost you some API (but them as well) is after you took control of half his BCs, would be to teleport them to your spores 1 at a time, maybe 2 second apart or something. No matter, I can't believe you pulled that off... amazing job.
Super enjoyed it, as usual. I hope none of the pros are watching, since you are basically giving them tips how you play, but... I am certain there will be several builds up your sleeve for the tournament (hmmm hmmm.. planetary... hmm... rush)
xd i love how during intense gameplay he took the time to think and say "now I'm going to change all the terrans' colors - I'm going to be a BEAUTIFUL orange"
This was the first time I saw uThermal brood lords. I almost thought they just deleted that unit in multiplayer. It hurt seeing all the zergling and baneling sacrifices against the PFs when broodlords were an option. Also, why no upgrades when a 1v4 will obviously be a longer game about trading efficiently?
I got another challenge this one was good , how about 2 gm archon vs 6 golds individual? Or 5 ? You play as Zerg with another high ranking gm zerg in archon vs 6 golds . Make it happen
Was not expecting this master peace, one of best games I have seen. ^^ And now when it is downfall of Dark, it seems uThermal should take the stage and outshine pajamas pants Solar. Dreaming is cool, but Guys he is getting good with Random...
I played sc as a kid back in the 2000s but I think I have a video idea. 2v2 1 grandmaster with 1 silver vs 1 grandmaster with 1 silver. First to kill the other teams silver wins.
I'm always so sad to miss these. I wish uthermal would do these with like 100 players (so more would get a chance) and announce it on his UA-cam channel so that I would know. As a parent with little children, and a house and a job, there is no time to be on multiple social media. I just have time for Marc's UA-cam videos. No community announcement. No discord. No twitter. No reddit.
@@slimpwarrior Do you not realize how oblivious to what being busy actually is? Yeah, there is such a thing as being TOO BUSY to spend the time to figure out what app gives him the notifications, what channel it is, how to even use discord, how to set up notifications on it, how to connect it to his phone, etc. Do you hear how entitled that sounds? lol.
@@slimpwarrior and then have to read through the hundreds of other messages daily from all the users just in the hope that I catch Marc's one message to say "gold players, meet me in 10 minutes on the EU server". But I get it, Marc doesn't need a huge influx of people. He just needs the 3 or 4 players who are readily available. Either way, he said he won't post the 1v3 cause he lost. Which is ridiculous. We are t watching to see him win. I hope he does a 2v5 with another pro player.
Anybody out here still one basing, opening the entire tech tree and then having NO resources to expand or build past bio and basic air force?I've learned more from this series than I intuited from a decade of playing SC1
I just had an idea watching your game. Maybe Blizzard should add a tech for lurkers to grow high enough spines to be able to attack flying units? Just my 2 cents
At 46:37, how did you instantly select 3 banelings to burrow? There isn't a control group with 3 of them, and you didn't drag a box -- is there some mechanic for this that I am unaware of?
The first time I played StarCraft I was disappointed because there were so many units in the campaign (which I loved) that are never usable in Multiplayer. Is that a balancing thing?
Hi Marc! I watch your videos with my Wife every day. She's never even played StarCraft and she enjoys watching. You have re-inspired my love for the game. If you could give me one shout out, one time, it sure would be amazing. I hope you see this. Keep up the awesome work, Marc! I hope you're well!
Watching Marc constantly burrow and unburrow units unintentionally gives me some validation. I intentionally choose not to pick up Burrow for most games because the number of times I have accidentally pressed burrow and lost a fight makes me sad.
I'm the pink terran on the far right and it was such a treat to be part of this game. I watched this video for the first time today with my friends and we loved it. I definitely enjoyed playing penguin brothers, and then making Marc confused with my factory attack on his expand and my planetary in the main XD
If you ever want to try a X v Protos video again I'm totally on board for that!
For those wondering, I only flew those factories over there when my main base got trashed by drops. I still had 3 starports making battlecruisers on my expansion :)
It's definitely a feeling of mixed emotions when I see the mistakes I made, and then Marc so happily using that opportunity to kill my army XD
You still gave him a good run with your BCs. ggwp and good luck man.
@@moaiadaljamal4422 neural parasite is a bullshit ability
@@moaiadaljamal4422 My only question is - why did you guys focus your attacks on his main mined out bases, instead of just starving him and killing off his mining bases on the left side.
@@ExecutorBG1if they would have answers to your questions they wouldnt be silvers and it wouldnt be a 4v1. Smart assing around a sliver is not good, just leave him alone I guess.
I want to be a part of his challenge as well. I’m around silver or gold. How do I get in on the action? Does he have a discord where he post challenges?
This was one of the funnest games I've ever seen. So much spellcaster action, so many lategame units, so many clutch battles. Just liquid awesomeness
I am glad you enjoyed the spellcasting. After my base and battle cruisers were trashed, I had 2 ravens and a dream. So i was throwing out those Anti-Armour missiles to try and help. I was the pink terran on the far right base
@@Dohyden2 you did great and posed a huge challenge for thermy, well done
@@Dohyden2 can I ask you a question why didn't you guys coordinate and simultaneously tp the BC'S into main base like wouldn't it just end everything
@@Melchiorql Well we mostly ignored the team chat because we were focused on our builds. Also we were attacked at different times so our armies were at different power levels. Also, our APM is pretty low, so reading, typing and clicking on stuff is challenging.
Second this - stuff like this is the best to watch
I love how Mark said on the start of the game: "We need creep, acctualy I need it to win". 33 minutes into game: creep spred 0% :D :D
What an insane game. Where were a couple of times where I couldn't see you holding your position but somehow you pulled through. Brillian, chaotic, absolutely Uthermal game.
But now I wonder what the final question was)
me too! I wanna know that question!
We too ! What was that question ??
I dont even play computer games anymore but watching you is always a blast
"I'm exhausted" Said the guy who went through a 1 vs 4 while commenting. 😅
Lmao I wish I had a tenth of uthermal's energy
Thats why he is exausted, genius.
@@fernandoxavier3089that’s their point.
@@fernandoxavier3089 🤯
@@zakkennedy443 His brain is too powerful, we can't grasp his understanding of the universe.
Not gonna lie this game looked like a vs 7 insane ai challenge at some point
That's because even if their microing ability is much lower and they usually engage in worse trades, they can do some "unexpected" moves like this PF at 40:48, that AIs can't. And these tend to sum up to be very annoying the more the game goes on.
@@CamiloCBGmicroing? You must mean macroing. Silver players have way better micro than AI, but shit macro.
24:51 that was so freaking cool!! Threw neural fungus on the BCs and then tellied them back to your spore line 🤣
Painful watching so many BCs go down. I would've cried.
actually he can just kill spore and hive . you need much more spores than 10 vs that many BC
I think its safe to say this man is the main character of sc2
Thermy is a bit alike to the BroodWar Raynor... I guess he's the OR (original Raynor)
Thermy is a bit alike to the BroodWar Raynor... I guess he's the OR (original Raynor)
Maybe too micro intensive but if the BC's were teleported one at a time into the spores they would die quicker and not split the spores fire as much. Also was a little paintfull later in the game when Marc forgot where the spores were and was teleporting them onto his tech buildings haha.
That was the funniest part of this whole game imo
I have a tip if you dont have rapid fire setup on something. If your unit isnt doing anything at the moment, you can hold shift and just click with the ability a bunch of times.
Its way faster than selecting, casting, selecting, casting.
what an amazing game! i thought you were dead when the bcs, libs, tanks, and marines seiged up and you only had a few units trickling in. beautiful unit control and decision making. glad i picked this video to watch :)
Lol. That was insane fun! GG man.
The fact that you commentate, while building, fighting, and strategizing is nuts.
I currently have 100 percent win rate on my proxy hatchery build after watching you and when I win using it I say thank uthermal 😂
"I wanna take as many players out of the picture as soon possible as fast as possible" is a legit strategy! in D&D we call it action economy - if you're up against a mob, you want to thin the numbers first rather than focusing down the strongest target, otherwise you just get overwhelmed.
It's actually the ONLY strategy. Even a GM like uThermal would have no chance at winning if a bunch of Silver players are allowed to mass up 200 supply armies.
In MMO's you call that taking out the adds :P
I wish we could see the other team's chat. They must be going nuts.
It was actually very quiet. We didn't talk much haha. Hense why we didn't group up as much as we should have but like, we're silver after all, strategy isn't our strong point... I tried to get us to group up and it didn't really happen
it was so much fun to play in this challenge there was frequent messages of people freaking out as he was invading people's bases
it was so fun to participate in this challenge
@@Dohyden2 if you're ever involved in another one I think the key strategy in a 1v4 is for 2 players to go full macro and speedrun the late game units like BC's, Carriers etc and then another 2 players to proxy and cheese the hell out of him, he needs to be held back early for as long as possible to slow him down from expanding.
@@davecolwell725 Not a very honorable thing to do though is it. 4 VS 1 is already a huge advantage. but if you are doing it already, why 2 people proxy rushing. Why not 4? Silver or not I do not see any feasible way to defend a 4 man proxy rush. Glad no one is doing it tbh it would be very anticlimactic and impossible to win for a solo player. I think the moment people start doing it the rule of "worker rush forbidden" would be extended to "no proxies as well". Numbers do not lie it would be impossible to defend that.
What a game!
That 50mins flew by haha, what a banger! The neural teleport move was so cool too, classic Therm
Absolutely phenomenal gameplay, Marc. I'm wondering, why don't you (immediately) go for upgrades? Toward the end you mentioned that the corrupters were having a lot of trouble getting enough firepower. Also, this game was a masterclass in Zerg spellcasting, well done! Your use of neural parasite, teleport, and spores was inspired. What a strategy, denying so much heavy ordnance with spellcasters. Truly exciting. Great work!
Afaik neglecting the upgrades is a Marc-specific style of playing these challenges, that many other high level players would not agree with. The idea is that upgrades cost a lot and they don't help you immediately, so every time you go for upgrades, you increase the chances of losing in the next minute or two. Marc didn't have a massive bank of resources at any point in this game, and every time he would save some up, a big fight was immediately taking place and he needed all of it to remax asap. The fights were very often really close, and any of them could have possibly been a loss if too much minerals was spent on upgrades. But obviously upgrades are the better long term investment and other players on Marc's level would likely try harder to squeeze them in.
@@diosealorwh Thank you for weighing in. Yes, I imagine this frugality is really important, especially if you intend to stay in and win the "short game." Unit density and diversity over strength and power, I get it. I mean, heck, I have watched him completely destroy his opponents for months with this strategy, even in the long game. Still, I can't help but think of how devastating Marc's gameplay would be if he immediately went for all upgrades. He is already playing at such a high level that defeating him might become near to impossible.
very entertaining I was thinking all the time "does he not see his gold base 😭"
GGWP!
Wow that hellbat/marine/tank push into a tiny choke against lurker hydra was peak AI play. You have to make your opponents complete a captcha before they can play, Marc.
That big fight in the middle of the map somewhere in the middle of the game was crazy! I wouldn't see anything there and what happened
Why did you avoid the gold base right between your 3 bases that you controlled the space around?
I'd love to see a protoss 1v4. I don't think I've ever seen that
Watching all those BC's get teleported on top of the spores was so painful to watch, haha - epic play!
SOO good.. the only thing that I noticed that might have been better, although it would have cost you some API (but them as well) is after you took control of half his BCs, would be to teleport them to your spores 1 at a time, maybe 2 second apart or something. No matter, I can't believe you pulled that off... amazing job.
Wow the teleporting the battle cruisers onto spores is brilliant
Your content is a good introduction to Starcraft 2 for non-players, even non-rts players.
This is when humans use 100% brain power. 1vs4 with commentary, fighting sometimes with only teeth and nails and still won. Damn crazy!
Amazing game! The neurals into spores were so cool
O titulo desse vídeo deveria ser "a batalha dos cinco exércitos" 😂. Ótimo vídeo. Abraços.
Super enjoyed it, as usual. I hope none of the pros are watching, since you are basically giving them tips how you play, but... I am certain there will be several builds up your sleeve for the tournament (hmmm hmmm.. planetary... hmm... rush)
I had no idea who to cheer for because I didn't know who the underdog was. Haha.
xd i love how during intense gameplay he took the time to think and say "now I'm going to change all the terrans' colors - I'm going to be a BEAUTIFUL orange"
I love these challenges! Do more of them please
This was the first time I saw uThermal brood lords. I almost thought they just deleted that unit in multiplayer. It hurt seeing all the zergling and baneling sacrifices against the PFs when broodlords were an option. Also, why no upgrades when a 1v4 will obviously be a longer game about trading efficiently?
The fact he was able to comment while whooping straight ass... was something else entirely
bro only you and beastyqty have been this amazing at outlandish sc2 content ❤️
Challenge. - Top Gun. Play defensively until units are fully upgraded.
I love how you can 'hear' the smile in uThermal's words lmao. He's so great
I got another challenge this one was good , how about 2 gm archon vs 6 golds individual? Or 5 ? You play as Zerg with another high ranking gm zerg in archon vs 6 golds . Make it happen
Hard to imagine a sadder lonelier person than u
Definitely outrageous. Marc to his finest
I feel like I just watched a martial arts main character crowd fight a bunch of goons but for real. Amazing play!
Was not expecting this master peace, one of best games I have seen. ^^
And now when it is downfall of Dark, it seems uThermal should take the stage and outshine pajamas pants Solar.
Dreaming is cool, but Guys he is getting good with Random...
man BANGER of a game, hope to see Lowko or anyone else cast it
Uthermal have the energy of 5 toddlers that just woke up from a long nap
I fell asleep for a little nap with this video playing, and my dreams were WILD! 😅
Would of liked to see more stats at the end, but that was a crazy game, well done with splash damage my goodness
“The queens are actually pretty scary, let me see if I can ‘down town’ them” 😂
"OMG THE SPOORS R POOPIN OOFF!" at like 26 minutes lol
gigabanger is the perfect way to describe this match. entertaining as hell.
Man I love your videos and your expression and commenting. That was an awesome game. Much love!!!
Bro, you held without ever touching ultras. Respect.
ngl I thought this was clickbait from another channel, but when I scrolled down and saw it was uthermal I was so happy
Intense stuff. Definitely think some ghosts to negate your neural and bombs might have changed the outcome, but wow, very tough.
I’m surprised how big the difference between silver and GM is. That’s crazy that you can take on 4 of them
I know you said you weren't thrilled with the race comp, but I think you got luck that there were no protoss present in this game! GG WP!!
Crazy uthermal beat serral plus 3 other players??? Insane how good he is !@
Can you do the same thing with Protoss or Terran?
I played sc as a kid back in the 2000s but I think I have a video idea. 2v2 1 grandmaster with 1 silver vs 1 grandmaster with 1 silver. First to kill the other teams silver wins.
That was great! Definite rollercoaster ride. I'm curious... what did the guy ask you?
The Zerg are the french ticklers of all three races.
That adorable silver attack at 11:00 was just PRECIOUS
Oof. He got too excited.
insane gameplay as ever uthermal, GG.
I can't believe you won that 1 time and almost lost that dozen times.
It's been done a bunch of times by the easy overpowered race, but it's never been done by the hardest race that has shit for units.
I didn't think you could do it when they attacked your main base. Great hold!
The hydra trap was useful, it killed a SCV with the splash of the tank :D
Uthermal is just an absolute chad! Great game! Well played by the silver leaguers as well!
I was like this is ridiculous, they can just insta worker rush you. 1 sec after, there is only one rule : no worker rush.
the fact you can just talk at the same is insane.
I'm always so sad to miss these. I wish uthermal would do these with like 100 players (so more would get a chance) and announce it on his UA-cam channel so that I would know.
As a parent with little children, and a house and a job, there is no time to be on multiple social media. I just have time for Marc's UA-cam videos. No community announcement. No discord. No twitter. No reddit.
Are saying you're too busy to install discord and setup the notifications that you need? Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds? lol
@@slimpwarrior Do you not realize how oblivious to what being busy actually is? Yeah, there is such a thing as being TOO BUSY to spend the time to figure out what app gives him the notifications, what channel it is, how to even use discord, how to set up notifications on it, how to connect it to his phone, etc.
Do you hear how entitled that sounds? lol.
@@slimpwarrior and then have to read through the hundreds of other messages daily from all the users just in the hope that I catch Marc's one message to say "gold players, meet me in 10 minutes on the EU server". But I get it, Marc doesn't need a huge influx of people. He just needs the 3 or 4 players who are readily available.
Either way, he said he won't post the 1v3 cause he lost. Which is ridiculous. We are t watching to see him win.
I hope he does a 2v5 with another pro player.
@@boreduser12 Yeah, and only uploading wins also spoils the outcome of the video
17:31 man that would piss me off for sure, I'd be like wtf is with this guy
LETS FUCKING GO: Neurol to teleport on top of your own spores! HAHAHAHA Mastermind
Wow.. Neural teleport to spores was insane..
Man, what an epic game! Looked so close a few times!
Now you need to talk us what was the question:)
that was a nice warm up, where are the other games??
The real deal would be 4 turkish barbers vs your baldness
multitasking is out of this planet honestly
You really gotta remember upgrades
Anybody out here still one basing, opening the entire tech tree and then having NO resources to expand or build past bio and basic air force?I've learned more from this series than I intuited from a decade of playing SC1
Ngl this seems like an uber fun event to do with some people, especially with me as one of those four XD
I just had an idea watching your game. Maybe Blizzard should add a tech for lurkers to grow high enough spines to be able to attack flying units? Just my 2 cents
Incredible game. I can't believe what I just witnessed
Nice nice game.. But for once, I was supporting your rivals!!!! GGWP to the Silver Heroes!!!!!
Marc, this video is hitting from DOWNTOWN :-)
more of this type of epic content please
At 46:37, how did you instantly select 3 banelings to burrow? There isn't a control group with 3 of them, and you didn't drag a box -- is there some mechanic for this that I am unaware of?
I did box it was just really fast :D
@@uThermal absolutely insane apm, I can’t see you do it even when freeze framing
How does this compare playing vs AI ? I suppose 4x brutal would be easier?
UThermal has won 1v7 vs insane AI that's cheating. So to answer your question - AI is easier
I would love to see more of this type of content. I wish the silver players would have harassed a bit more but that is probably asking too much
probably had a rule that they wouldn't get too cheesy other wise you just get 4 all ins and tidal wave him off the map at the start with A move
If they had have attacked your expasions rather than your main, that would have been it.
I think you mean "MATCH" of the year.
The first time I played StarCraft I was disappointed because there were so many units in the campaign (which I loved) that are never usable in Multiplayer. Is that a balancing thing?
Use the battlecruisers and then teleport them when the timer runs out
Uthermal How on earth do you keep up with the Fast Forward Button?
Because I cannot tell the difference between FF or Normal.
Not sure what you mean my friend
Hi Marc! I watch your videos with my Wife every day. She's never even played StarCraft and she enjoys watching. You have re-inspired my love for the game. If you could give me one shout out, one time, it sure would be amazing. I hope you see this. Keep up the awesome work, Marc! I hope you're well!
is their a rule stopping them from all just working rushing you?
Awesome game. Not sure when last time 50min passed by so fast 😅
Bro, how do you possibly pull this off. Legendary... 😲 Also, the enemy zerg gave up way too easy. Why? Sadge. He was their best shot.
Watching Marc constantly burrow and unburrow units unintentionally gives me some validation. I intentionally choose not to pick up Burrow for most games because the number of times I have accidentally pressed burrow and lost a fight makes me sad.
You can actually use different hotkeys for burrow and unborrow