First Major Switch 2 Hardware Leak: What Have We Learned?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 341

  • @WH250398
    @WH250398 5 годин тому +74

    Richard's pure joy in the thumbnail lol

    • @DoukNoukum
      @DoukNoukum 40 хвилин тому +6

      He looks like a 60 year old baby

  • @TheGameBench
    @TheGameBench 5 годин тому +34

    If the size is an issue, I'm sure they'll have a Switch 2 Lite, that will be size of the old Switch.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis 4 години тому +3

      Agree, to me this looks like just the "XL" sku for a Switch 2.

    • @notesscrotes4360
      @notesscrotes4360 Годину тому +1

      The normal Switch and Switch Lite are both too big! We need to go back to smaller handhelds.

    • @ChristopherMoon31415
      @ChristopherMoon31415 Годину тому +1

      Nah, still pretty small. An XL Switch 2 would be nice.

    • @TheGameBench
      @TheGameBench Годину тому +2

      @@notesscrotes4360 If that's too big, you should probably just play games on a phone.

  • @HeroOfLegend115
    @HeroOfLegend115 6 годин тому +84

    I just hope that the joy-cons are better made. The drifting/connection issues with the originals is crazy. The fact that the joy con can just disconnect while connected to the system is wild to me. Also for any future pro controller, hopefully the d-pad is more precise. The one on the current controller is so prone to accidental diagonals that it's completely unusable for certain 2D games.

    • @SussyBaka_irl
      @SussyBaka_irl 5 годин тому +4

      Unfortunately nothing has been confirmed regarding the integration of hall-effect sensored joy sticks & an actual D-Pad, however the magnetic connection between the newer models of Joy-Con is huge.
      I say that because my left Joy-Con got stuck on the rail & I accidentally snapped it off the rail & broke it.💀

    • @vivid8979
      @vivid8979 5 годин тому +2

      For the Joycon diaconnecting problem of yours maybe it's because the railings are dirty? Happens to alot of Switches

    • @HeroOfLegend115
      @HeroOfLegend115 5 годин тому

      @@vivid8979 Yeah I cleaned them recently and it's gotten better. Still feel it could be more reliable, though.

    • @dr.sivavignesh664
      @dr.sivavignesh664 5 годин тому +2

      The joycons are uncomfortable to use after a while. They should also make it easy to repair.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 5 годин тому +1

      Another thing that winds me up is the lack of d-pad, and the flimseyness/lack of rigidity of the regular Switch. I hope there's no more bending in the hand.

  • @tgrujic1965
    @tgrujic1965 4 години тому +10

    The size is okay until you see the right joy-con thumb stick placement. I foresee a lot of carpal tunnel issues on that side.

  • @JWBR84
    @JWBR84 4 години тому +26

    So I am curious why nobody is talking about the "Nintendo Attach" name that was floated around in surveys earlier in the year, the patent document that details a peripheral powered by USB C, and the fact that in this leak the system appears to have a 2nd USB C port on the top of the system to ATTACH potential peripherals...? Maybe I am crazy.

    • @MikalEdmunds
      @MikalEdmunds 4 години тому +3

      I was wondering the same thing! Maybe we’re both crazy then, I dunno, but I’m glad it’s not just me. I thought for sure that rumor would resurface after all this

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому +2

      Maybe this one will actually be a hybrid and the top port is for an egpu... Otherwise it's still not a hybrid

    • @D2Kprime
      @D2Kprime 3 години тому

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Wouldn't it make more sense or be more ergonomic to have an eGPU built into the dock itself though? Then again, maybe somewhere down the line instead of making a mid-gen refresh they give us an eGPU? It might be too confusing to do all of that right off the bat. Maybe that is what the top USB port is for?
      I think most likely it is just a port used by developers since these imagine are based on a prototype anyway.

    • @Rah84eem
      @Rah84eem 3 години тому +1

      ​@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I'm thinking the same. The dock will have its own hardware to boost the power.

    • @JC012732
      @JC012732 Годину тому +1

      Nintendo Forecast has a fantastic recent video going over the Nintendo’s history of peripherals and how a Switch 2 might aggressively support different accessories

  • @Tailslol
    @Tailslol 5 годин тому +28

    For the ones who still wonder what was exactly the power of the tegra X1 of the switch. The CPU was around the same power of the raspberry pi 4 at max speed. But the GPU was pretty much a gtx750.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 5 годин тому +13

      Gtx 750 is about twice as strong as the tegra x1 GPU at full clockspeed (1.111 vs 512 Gfops in FP32, double as much shader etc.). Switch downclocked the tegra X1 even further. Still decent performance considering the low wattage for the time (750 runs at 55W).
      A 750 is a lot closer to an xbox one.

    • @Bigdaddymittens
      @Bigdaddymittens 2 години тому +5

      Where tf do u get this information lmfao. 😂. Literally false

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol 53 хвилини тому

      @@coolertuep yea i mixed a few results and it was based on the one on shield tv. the 750 is at half power but for the cpu it is still right

  • @x2f0181
    @x2f0181 3 години тому +6

    Totally random. Nintendo just a few weeks ago released a charging station for the joy-cons. I think this makes things make more sense since there's no way to charge the original joy-cons on the new setup if this is in fact accurate.

    • @ComradeChyrk
      @ComradeChyrk Годину тому

      They do have the joycon grip that charges the joycons that has been out since the switch launched.

  • @wiiownsps3and360
    @wiiownsps3and360 5 годин тому +3

    Honestly the theory’s about the top port seem like a stretch. It’s literally to maintain full usb functionality for table top mode. Not just charging. External controller support being another big one. And that’s nothing to sneeze at. It doesn’t need to be this earth shattering thing it’s just a usb port. 😂

  • @mikestockdale808
    @mikestockdale808 3 години тому +5

    The elephant in the room is that T239 on 8nm would consume at least 8 watts even with clock speeds in the basement, putting total system power draw over 10 watts. Do you really believe Nintendo is going to release Switch 2 with less than two hours of battery life? Nintendo isn't cheeping out on the ram, internal storage or screen, but they obviously are on the SOC? 7nm(6N) is possible. If your going to stick with the assumption of 8nm, you need to explain how they are achieving far better power consumption than they ever have on any 8nm chip in existence? Also, stop saying 4N is a high end node, its Nvidias customized 5nm, and 5nm is currently used for SOC's in budget smart phones.

    • @elyasshussain5988
      @elyasshussain5988 52 хвилини тому

      They always cheap out on hardware what you in about

  • @marioleal8751
    @marioleal8751 3 години тому +5

    of course alex drinks with his pinkey sticking out

  • @cyrus8886
    @cyrus8886 5 годин тому +34

    400 at launch
    A 300 lite model
    Then a couple years later they'll do a 450 oled with 512 gb

    • @danielespinoza6569
      @danielespinoza6569 5 годин тому

      Agree on point 1 & 3 but don’t you think a Lite will be a middle life launch most probably?

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 5 годин тому +3

      @@danielespinoza6569 oh I know I meant it as in a couple year after the lite
      It's a 1 to 1 repetition of this gen

    • @danielespinoza6569
      @danielespinoza6569 5 годин тому

      @@cyrus8886 Yes! Then 100% agree with you.
      Cheers.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому +2

      400$ for a 8nm SOC would be ridiculous. Next months releasing Meta Quest 3s has a 4nm SOC and almost 4k 120hz screen at 299$.
      This would be a huge rip off from nintendo

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому +1

      It'll be be 5-600 for the hardware.

  • @Skasua
    @Skasua 6 годин тому +37

    You’d hope it has a mighty battery. That’s literally the most important thing atm for any portable device.
    The device doesn’t need to be super tiny, throw a chunky big battery in it.

    • @DarknessInferno15
      @DarknessInferno15 6 годин тому +1

      Actually, the size of it is a bigger issue than you'd think for many. Especially the Japanese market, it's a huge deal in their eyes.

    • @russelllapua4904
      @russelllapua4904 6 годин тому +5

      It might have been, but now the most important thing is the APU. If it's 5nm then even the current battery will last much longer.

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 5 годин тому

      20,000 mah power banks are dirt cheap. so I wouldn't say battery is the most important thing

    • @Tailslol
      @Tailslol 5 годин тому

      For the ones who still wonder what was exactly the power of the tegra X1 of the switch. The CPU was around the same power of the raspberry pi 4 at max speed. But the GPU was pretty much a gtx750. So yea there is room for improvement.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому

      @@russelllapua4904it really should be 4nm. 4nm is no longer state of the art and meta managed to use a 4nm SD XR2Gen2 in next months releasing quest 3s at 299$ with an almost 4k 120hz screen.
      Everything below 4nm in a 2025 device just isn’t acceptable

  • @AzumiRM
    @AzumiRM 4 години тому +6

    Why don't companies put hall effect sensors in their analogue sticks instead of whatever they use now.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      Because that's not how contracts work

    • @AzumiRM
      @AzumiRM 3 години тому

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 oh. I didn't know they would be bound to a contract for the analogue stick sensors. What a shame

    • @RohanSlazar
      @RohanSlazar 3 години тому +1

      Planned obsolescence

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 2 години тому

      I think Sega had hall effect joysticks in one of their really old consoles. I could've sworn I heard a Valve engineer explained why they weren't on the Steam Deck but I can't find information online. Hall Effect sensors being really well known is more of a thing that happened this console generation with joycon drift defects being especially bad. Tons of third party controllers are hall effect now or at least claim to be. I somewhat doubt the Switch 2 will have hall effect but I bet they will take more subtle approach to try to reduce/resolve drift being as prevalent as on the joycons

  • @darkroast9907
    @darkroast9907 2 години тому +3

    I haven't thought of the DS "Third Pillar" stuff since the mid-2000s lol

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 3 години тому +8

    That’ll be $800 from your local scalper.

  • @danesmith4227
    @danesmith4227 Годину тому +2

    Only thing that gets me excited is the day they launch a switch 2.0 patch for Botw and Totk to boost visuals

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 4 години тому +4

    I hope it's significantly stronger. Of course its still a handheld, but they can make it more powerful

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      For the low price of 600-700

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 3 години тому +4

      It’s impossible for it not to be. It’s using a custom modern mobile SOC from 2020 the latest. The Switch SOC is from 2014. This will be a bigger leap than PS4 to PS5 for Nintendo fans graphically and power wise.

    • @notesscrotes4360
      @notesscrotes4360 Годину тому

      @@ZackSNetwork Yeah, they're going from PS3 to PS4 raster-wise. Maybe even PS4 Pro. And that's not even counting stuff like DLSS or RT.

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 48 хвилин тому

      ​@@notesscrotes4360 I doubt PS4 Pro performance but DLSS and light Nvidia RT will undoubtably be a big benefit. Switch is a lot more powerful than a PS3 or Xbox 360 but the size of the leap is a fair comparison

  • @mannybananny2259
    @mannybananny2259 2 години тому +1

    I love digital foundry, but I gotta say, that thumbnail had me losing it hahahahahah

  • @bjarkisteinnpetursson9736
    @bjarkisteinnpetursson9736 5 годин тому +2

    Sometimes I take the Switch with me to work. If it were any larger than it is, I wouldn’t bother. That’s why I don’t take the SteamDeck to work.

  • @erikalvarez4516
    @erikalvarez4516 5 годин тому +7

    I hope they'd make a wireless and magnetic charger on the back, that way we can slap on an Anker portable charger and they can focus on performance instead of battery conservation

    • @Jimmylikehalo
      @Jimmylikehalo 4 години тому +1

      That would actually be a nice addition

    • @lupolinar
      @lupolinar 4 години тому

      That'll take up a lot of space and I don't see a good use for it. If I charge my phone, it is the place to be charged and I can check if neccessary. I either play my switch or have in the dock and If I charge it while playing, it is in my hands.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      People forget the original switch had around 3 hours of battery. Pretty shit

    • @erikalvarez4516
      @erikalvarez4516 3 години тому +1

      @@lupolinar not necessarily, there's little packs for iPhones that are about the size of a deck of playing cards. It could sit in the middle of the back free from obstruction.

  • @Pocapontas
    @Pocapontas Годину тому +1

    I want the "aim-function" of the Wii back. I loved shooting with the wiimote in Metroid prime, zelda etc... I also want to be able to use both joycons as guns with the Wii-aming function. That would be a fun FPS-game or horror game!

  • @Lwitkowski
    @Lwitkowski 2 години тому +1

    Gen 1 switch had pretty poor battery life in handheld. V2 fixed a lot in that department

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 5 годин тому +1

    Bigger joycons means potentially bigger joycon batteries. Perhaps they will contribute to runtime when attached in portable mode?

    • @teo_ww
      @teo_ww 4 години тому +1

      Would be a neat choice for a PC handled, but I don't see it as a feasible user experience from Nintendo's point of view.

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy 6 годин тому +24

    I had a major leak first thing this morning and a then a nice big info dump after my first coffee once i'd got to the office
    lovely stuff 👌👌

  • @marvin8559
    @marvin8559 5 годин тому +12

    Just make it powerful enough to run ps4 games well and give us huge xenoblade games with great resolution and frame rate PLEASE

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 5 годин тому +1

      That would essentially just a steam deck

    • @arglebargle5531
      @arglebargle5531 3 години тому +3

      ​@@coolertuepwell no, the Steam Deck doesnt have Xenoblade

    • @riansillett2771
      @riansillett2771 2 години тому +1

      It'll be around ps4pro series s power. Just from the more modern chipset used. Ps4 is ancient now.

  • @spawnkiller9779
    @spawnkiller9779 5 годин тому +1

    Would be interesting of they did a nintendo tv with the left over switch pcb and let the boards run closer to their normal spec.

  • @tatorsalad150
    @tatorsalad150 Годину тому

    Great video guys! I wish the "switch 2" would have a wireless, non-contact type charger. They are pretty common in phones now a day. Keep the usb-c ports for devices but wireless changing would be great.

  • @audunskilbrei8279
    @audunskilbrei8279 6 годин тому +2

    Still an ergonomic nightmare. I guess its OK since you can fix that quite easily.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому +1

      Every Nintendo handled ever

    • @audunskilbrei8279
      @audunskilbrei8279 3 години тому

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 the original fat gameboy was pretty good. Although last time I used it my hands were considerably smaller than they are now.

  • @Melsharpe95
    @Melsharpe95 4 години тому +8

    Sort out the joycon drift. There's really no excuse now.

    • @lupolinar
      @lupolinar 3 години тому

      Dualshock drift was not fixed. They just don't care.

  • @fturatti
    @fturatti 5 годин тому +9

    At this point, I just would love to see playstation and xbox launching something like ps4 and XOne portable. It would be great for the library.

    • @OneTwoMark
      @OneTwoMark 4 години тому +3

      That’d be interesting. Every new gen of consoles also have a portable version of last gen.

    • @fturatti
      @fturatti 4 години тому

      @@OneTwoMark tbf, it would be already, 2 gens older, like a ps6 with a ps4portable

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому +1

      Rog Ally is pretty much a portable Xbox. They worked with Xbox designing it

    • @notesscrotes4360
      @notesscrotes4360 Годину тому

      Competition in the handheld space would be nice, but I don't think there's any real space for it right now. Sony learned a pretty obvious lesson last gen that people simply weren't into non-Nintendo handhelds, at least not unless they offered something wildly different than just "another console".

    • @fturatti
      @fturatti Годину тому

      @@notesscrotes4360 but that's why I'm speaking about a literal ps4/xone, with all the library already there. For me it would be very nice.

  • @MrHamof
    @MrHamof 47 хвилин тому

    It wouldn't surprise me if there ends up being a "lite" version with a smaller screen and overall size if it ends up being an issue.

  • @ConsistentlyAwkward
    @ConsistentlyAwkward Годину тому

    I think the fact that this uses lddr5x almost confirms that this is a due shrink to either 7nm or 5nm samsung because it would be really hard to run those speeds on a memory controller designed for lpddr5 speeds

  • @ogre706
    @ogre706 4 години тому +2

    Sigh. Was hoping Nintendo would ditch the faux pad and do a proper d-pad. I seriously cannot play 2D games with an analog stick or the collection of buttons trying to act like a d-pad. Guess I'll be waiting for the Switch 2 Lite.

    • @mana66777
      @mana66777 29 хвилин тому

      They won’t - the reason it’s like that is so you can split up the Joy-Cons and hand it to someone, who can use those buttons as face buttons to play with.

  • @moxbroker
    @moxbroker 34 хвилини тому

    Top port so you can charge while using it standing up without a third party accessory. Currently if you use the built-in stand you can't charge the unit.

  • @DaReapa
    @DaReapa Годину тому

    The magnets are in the console with a metal bar/mechanism in the controller there will likely be a clack vs a click and the added button is what will disengage the magnets fron the console by moving the mechanism in controller away from the magnets.

  • @Bajso84
    @Bajso84 2 години тому

    I never play on the go, but the Switch is still my console of choice, because its convenient. I can drop it into a backpack and move it between docks, or use it casually while watching tv.
    The larger joycons with magnetic click-on looks interesting. Hoping for a higher grade gyro inside.

  • @aeris2001
    @aeris2001 5 годин тому +2

    Steam deck is way too big for me to use comfortably, so Nintendo need to not mess up the handheld ergonomics here

    • @lupolinar
      @lupolinar 4 години тому +1

      Steam deck is not just big, but bulky.

  • @teo_ww
    @teo_ww 5 годин тому +4

    Now that I think it, why haven't Joycons seen a rebranding by the internet as Paincons? They've not been joyous by any stretch.

  • @funtimefilms660
    @funtimefilms660 Годину тому +1

    What are the chances the 12GB RAM are actually just for the dev model and we'll end up with 8 or even 6 GB of RAM instead?

  • @CheddarBayBaby
    @CheddarBayBaby 3 години тому +1

    No matter the size there will be a smaller size available within 2 years

  • @Nu_Merick
    @Nu_Merick 6 годин тому +1

    Im just curious what the new big feature/gimmick they have planned to showcase. Usually theyve been doing that since the wii and DS started. More power and different joycons is a plus either way

  • @MACROSS2KYTB
    @MACROSS2KYTB 4 години тому +2

    I think Nintendo is going to make it $500.

  • @NicolasSilvaVasault
    @NicolasSilvaVasault 27 хвилин тому

    the lack of triggers really really bothers me, a lot, and is probably the main reason i'm not getting one, hopefully steam deck 2 comes out at the same period

  • @quintessences
    @quintessences Годину тому

    This will definitively be the most high stakes announcement and product launch for Nintendo. I remember the Wii U days and Nintendo needs to not repeat the naming scheme fiasco. I think whatever price they put on the successor will land a whole lot better than PS5 Pro.

  • @845H1R
    @845H1R 5 годин тому +1

    Will they go for hall effect sensors to get rid of drift?

  • @Occopuyo
    @Occopuyo 30 хвилин тому

    I'm not sure I agree with John's assessment that the cartridges will need to be faster, as long as they install first to local storage like PS5 (and Xbox?) do currently. So as long as we have sufficient cartridge and SDD storage size I'd think we should be good to go.

  • @zalaquin
    @zalaquin 2 години тому +1

    Damn was hoping for a non portable version

  • @PamonhasDePiracicaba
    @PamonhasDePiracicaba 5 годин тому +2

    If it can render Tifa and her latest games I’m already satisfied.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 4 години тому

      Good luck playing rebirth on switch 2 😂

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist Годину тому

      And yet , FF games flopped in pa5

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Годину тому

      @@QuantumChrist sorry are we talking about the same FF games that have sold a combined 10M units, and the most recent one hasn't even hit PC yet? Interesting definition you have for "flop".

  • @russelllapua4904
    @russelllapua4904 5 годин тому

    I'd love for the new cards to be a different colour so we can tell right away. Like they're Blue or Gold or something.

  • @db4z09
    @db4z09 5 годин тому +13

    Looks like a Switch XL, which makes me think Nintendo intends to sell this more as pro variant alongside the current switch and that there wouldn't necessarily be exclusive Switch XL games.

    • @Gab-e4w
      @Gab-e4w 4 години тому +17

      i don't think so. too many leaks points towards this model having much better hardware, like 3 times as much RAM and a much beefier SOC.

    • @SquishybuttEnterprises
      @SquishybuttEnterprises 4 години тому

      I can def see where you're coming from, it looks exactly like an XL Switch. But, Nintendo themselves called it a successor to the Switch, so it'll probably be a whole new platform (that's hopefully backwards compatible).

    • @graphicsgod
      @graphicsgod 4 години тому

      Yeah I was expecting a more different design than just a "pro" upgrade. Like the difference between the Wii and the WiiU.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      That would just be the Wiiu all over again

  • @Rah84eem
    @Rah84eem 3 години тому +2

    I am thinking something like half the tech will be in the switch and the other will be in the dock. For more power. Dlss 3.5?

    • @Liquid_Paper
      @Liquid_Paper 2 години тому

      Not necessary. Its all in the chipset already. Power draw from outlet is the purpose of dock.

  • @TheFightingGame_Network
    @TheFightingGame_Network 5 годин тому +2

    I can theory talk all day about this. I am far from expert, just a guy that has had everything from 7800 to ps5. Yes, I’m old,phew that’s out of the way. Now let’s go apples to apples here DLSS 2 support and FSR3. Current systems have FSR not 3 so Nintendo actually has an advantage here….right? Are we looking at a Nintendo with muscles? I’m trying to process this and would like the professionals to explain. Thanks for the great content

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 4 години тому +2

      FSR3 is already being used in some console titles and will likely be pretty widespread by the time the switch 2 is released

  • @pyrokamileon
    @pyrokamileon 2 години тому

    Nintendo has no problem making changes up until the 11th hour. just before the GameCube officially released the b button was a lima bean just like the x and y but when the official system came out it was a small red round button..

  • @kontro113dkhaoz2
    @kontro113dkhaoz2 4 години тому

    I think they dont have a choice but go 4nm, but for cooling more than anything, to separate itself from the others

  • @azzy2001
    @azzy2001 13 хвилин тому

    They should go with only physical releases and make the cartridges as big as possible with zero updates or DLC on first party games. I would love that. Day 1 buy.

  • @pyrokamileon
    @pyrokamileon 2 години тому

    for years and years I always preferred the smaller system if for no other reason so The screen could look better with an equal resolution but smaller screen.. but I guess I'm getting old now because I don't mind the bigger screen as much 🤷🏽

  • @michaelkitchin9665
    @michaelkitchin9665 Годину тому

    It's one thing to take a hit on hardware cost but everyone's having trouble moving people over to the newer consoles. Is Nintendo going to be immune to that?

  • @RealJeffTidwell
    @RealJeffTidwell 2 години тому

    Switch 2 $499
    Switch 2 Lite $399
    Bundles for old Switch, no price drop. Inflation in frame.

  • @pryan609
    @pryan609 3 години тому +4

    I feel like I'm the only one that wants a mini console with a cartridge slot to play the Switch 1 and 2 games on my TV. I only care about playing at home, so if I could get a cheaper version with no screen and doesn't rely on a battery, then I'd be thrilled.

    • @brinta2868
      @brinta2868 2 години тому

      Exactly! I predicted a tv-only Switch back in 2017, and I'm surprised Nintendo never made one. For many people it could be a much better option than a regular Switch. No battery, no screen, no dock, and an included Pro Controller instead of Joycons.
      The console wouldn't be that much cheaper, but not having to buy a Pro Controller separately would save an extra 60 euros. I honestly can't play with the Joycons, they're terribly uncomfortable.
      I'm also surprised that Nintendo never made Joycons that were basically a Pro Controller split in half.

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 Годину тому

      ​​​​​​​​@@brinta2868 I was always curious about that, I wonder if it's just low demand. Nintendo released the usage stats several years ago for the OG Switch. 30% players use it almost exclusively handheld, 50% of players use it mixed handheld and docked, 20% of players almost always play docked. Meaning less than 20% of Switch players would even be considering a stripped down tier that is nonportable and without a battery in the first place. They would need to integrate joycon charging rails on it if they went for it but I think the idea would be interesting even if it is not for me. Some games need the joycons over the pro controller for multiplayer modes I think it'd be necessary they wouldn't be willing sacrifice it and have a Switch console that can't charge Joycons

    • @brinta2868
      @brinta2868 32 хвилини тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@willwunsche6940
      "They wouldn't (...) have a Switch console that can't charge Joycons."
      Well, they made the Switch Lite.

    • @brinta2868
      @brinta2868 28 хвилин тому

      @@willwunsche6940
      And already in 2017 there was the official "charger grip". All you need then is a usb-c cable (which you would have dangling from your console already to charge the Pro Controller) and then you can charge the Joycons through the charger grip.

    • @willwunsche6940
      @willwunsche6940 25 хвилин тому

      ​​​@@brinta2868 Fair points! I wonder where my comment disappeared to? I didn't delete it 😂 UA-cam still says it is posted

  • @ChristopherMoon31415
    @ChristopherMoon31415 Годину тому

    Imagine it turns out this is the Switch 2 Mini

  • @bynde8638
    @bynde8638 3 години тому

    Rounded curves man ... can't wait!!!

  • @xcrack6364
    @xcrack6364 4 години тому +1

    Even at $500, I am there all day.

  • @haylonix
    @haylonix 5 годин тому +3

    If the leak is accurate, it appears more appropriate to call it a Switch XL or Super Switch. My Switch has never left its dock, so nothing here outside specs I’m interested in.

    • @AB_223
      @AB_223 5 годин тому +3

      You’d be in the minority then. My Switch only gets docked for multiplayer. The other 90% is handheld all the way.

    • @SolidPython2099
      @SolidPython2099 5 годин тому

      ​@@AB_223 he's not in the minority, the last reported numbers from 6 years ago had primarly undocked style at 30% use while playing in both modes is at 50+%

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 4 години тому +1

      ​@@SolidPython2099I think those numbers are changing. About 40% of switch sales (in units) are Switch Lite, meaning 40% of new buyers are limited exclusively to undocked mode.
      That said, it sounds like both camps are amply represented

  • @liquidpulse1713
    @liquidpulse1713 4 години тому

    Alex does know why it's called a Switch right? You can dock the thing so it's not just a handheld device lol.

  • @Adam-mo2qw
    @Adam-mo2qw 4 години тому +3

    As long as i can play ztotk at 60 fps and 1080p.... im sold.

  • @dbeardsley0
    @dbeardsley0 5 годин тому +1

    As long as it can smoothly play Arkham Knight and the new Rocksteady Batman game currently being pitched or what not, I'll be happy.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 5 годин тому

      The next batman arkham game will be on quest 3 next month (which also seems to be quite significantly more powerful than the switch 2 considering its using a 4nm SOC and Switch 2 using an rather outdated 7-8nm node according to leaks).

    • @dbeardsley0
      @dbeardsley0 4 години тому

      @@coolertuep VR does not count

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому

      @@dbeardsley0 the best way of gaming doesnt count? Thats like saying in 1996 mario64 wouldnt count because its 3D and previous games were 2D.

    • @dbeardsley0
      @dbeardsley0 Годину тому

      @@coolertuep It's not tho. I'd rather play 3rd person batman with a controller in my hand vs a helmet on my head. VR games 95% of the time just plain suck. Not to mention the new VR batman game is the one no one was asking for

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 11 хвилин тому

      @@dbeardsley0 nonsense dude, millions of people cant wait to finally become batman instead of just remote control him. New technology is something nice but you can keep playing pong forver I guess, your choice lol

  • @someguy4096
    @someguy4096 5 годин тому

    Do you think there might be 2 versions? One xl one regular and this the xl?

  • @wildinstinct1585
    @wildinstinct1585 5 годин тому

    What if the top USB C is for a powerbank to extend battery life on handheld mode

  • @Peace1dy
    @Peace1dy Годину тому

    Everything you said makes sense. Unfortunately a lot of people on fami have convinced themselves otherwise.

  • @kwadwobonnaaddo8313
    @kwadwobonnaaddo8313 3 години тому

    I saw that smile and I was like Yess. Am watching this vid. 😅

  • @I_SuperHiro_I
    @I_SuperHiro_I Годину тому

    Realistic Body Proportions.

  • @wmiles91
    @wmiles91 4 години тому

    Any chance of analog triggers?

  • @kleytman
    @kleytman 27 хвилин тому

    The history of nintendo consoles designs it whats makes me think the design will be very different, but due to the success of the switch..........

  • @PAINt0theMAX
    @PAINt0theMAX 6 годин тому

    Square Enix has no excuse after Yakuza Kiwami.
    Throw Just Cause 2 and Sleeping Dogs on the Switch!

  • @DeVstatrOmga
    @DeVstatrOmga 30 хвилин тому

    Petition to call it the *Nintendo CHONKERS*

  • @TimvanHelsdingen
    @TimvanHelsdingen 38 хвилин тому

    Hope it didn’t weight too much. Switch was a little heavy and hurts my hands

    • @DoukNoukum
      @DoukNoukum 35 хвилин тому +1

      Weaksauce

    • @STuD0S
      @STuD0S 30 хвилин тому +1

      Go to the gym

  • @fpvpilot7713
    @fpvpilot7713 21 хвилина тому

    Was hoping to see Mobapad shaped joycons. They have a far better shape similar to the Xbox controller.

  • @ThisGuy-kk1lp
    @ThisGuy-kk1lp 3 години тому

    they will still make a light

  • @cacadodo666
    @cacadodo666 3 години тому

    Wait till switch 2 xl comes out

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol 5 годин тому

    Gigaton leak..
    *Richard smirking*
    this week
    hhhehe

  • @AdamsKi8181
    @AdamsKi8181 6 годин тому +1

    I guess it's a gaming device.

  • @germainemcbounds9855
    @germainemcbounds9855 5 годин тому +1

    We all know what it is by now what is they waiting for

  • @deathkiller07seven30
    @deathkiller07seven30 3 години тому +1

    I saw and it looks like part how the psvita 2 second version or even 3 third version and I still have my PlayStation vita the last version

  • @ChiquitaSpeaks
    @ChiquitaSpeaks Годину тому

    If they have as much success as they do and still cheap out on hardware it’ll be pretty disappointing for Nintendo. Also looks like a lot of bezel on that display

  • @thierrys85
    @thierrys85 5 годин тому

    So are the Joy-Con actually bigger, because the system itself is bigger than Switch 1...?

  • @TheeRogerWayne
    @TheeRogerWayne 3 години тому

    some will prefer the 8 inch deck, some the 7 inch.

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 3 години тому +2

      Hey a 4 inch deck is plenty good enough if you can really work it!

    • @ChiquitaSpeaks
      @ChiquitaSpeaks Годину тому

      @@blaketindle4703 oof 😂

  • @joelsantiago7294
    @joelsantiago7294 18 хвилин тому

    if this true man i hope they done something for the dpad thou i know they need to do this for compability to the switch 1

  • @drift180x
    @drift180x 3 години тому +1

    Man I just hope the next one has hall effect thumb sticks. The alps made ones drift so easily. Also can 60fps be industry standard please? 30 just feels so unsatisfying compared to how games feel at 60.

  • @dottyorb
    @dottyorb 4 години тому +2

    I hope the unit itself has a 720p screen as I don't think 1080p is really necessary on a handheld and I'd rather have better battery life, not to mention the fact that lots of switch games ran below 720p in portable made anyway and so we'd probably get quite a lot of sub 1080p games on switch 2 if that had a 1080p screen.

    • @erikalvarez4516
      @erikalvarez4516 4 години тому +1

      @@dottyorb they should have a magnetic wireless charger on the back that way you can just slap a spare battery on the back and not have to worry about battery life and can focus on performance

    • @KinnArchimedes
      @KinnArchimedes 2 години тому

      Text at 720p on an 8in is gonna look mighty blurry...

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist Годину тому

      Nintendo just bought massive amount of 1080p screen

    • @KinnArchimedes
      @KinnArchimedes Годину тому

      @@QuantumChrist OLED I hope

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist Годину тому

      @@KinnArchimedes , nope just LCD... Lots of people prefer LCD LOl

  • @Slytzel
    @Slytzel 3 години тому +1

    One can really feel the change in management of the company. They play it very safe and are less experimental. Let's hope this philosophy does not apply to their future games as well.

  • @milktoast9140
    @milktoast9140 5 годин тому +1

    Question for those familiar with the tech stuff!
    So at this point DF is openly assuming that Nintendo decided to go with Samsung's 8N processor, and there has been plenty of discussion around how this might affect the device's battery life, and how the system will have to be underclocked when in handheld mode. I, however, use my switch in docked mode 80-90% of the time, so the mobile performance is less of a concern for me.
    If all of this pans out, and they do in fact go with the 8N chip, what affect would this have on docked performance compared to a smaller (7nm, 4nm, etc.) chip?

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому +2

      8nm Samsung node (basically 10nm) would be ridiculous considering the 299$ meta quest 3s uses a 4nm XR2Gen2 and releases next months. So it’s definitely possible at an reasonable price (while having having an almost 4k 120hz LCD btw).
      Cooling will be an issue in such a small device even docked. So while power draw might not be as significant in docked, a 4nm chip would be better in every scenario.
      If they really trying to sell a 8nm samsung node at 399$ in 2025 while the competition is selling comparable devices at 299$ with a much better LCD, Lenses, tons of cameras, tracked controllers etc. it will just be a huge ripping of nintendo fans

    • @milktoast9140
      @milktoast9140 2 години тому

      @@coolertuep Yeah, took a peak into famiboards and they are not agreeing with this video's takes LOL

  • @chrismueller1328
    @chrismueller1328 5 годин тому

    I wouldn't say the keyword is price. I would say it's more about access. I'm an over-the-road Truck Driver. Sure I can afford a super computer but that's not going to work as comfortably for me when I'm sitting at the dock for hours on end. I have an Xbox for time off. Phones are too shallow and desk tops are too involved for me personally. I need that sweet spot in the middle. Nintendo is aiming for mainstream. This is where we'll get more games quicker dev times less bugs. It's way on the cutting edge that's risky more buggy less games rushed launches. This chip will be a good example of this. If you took all the data points and put it all on a coordinance graph, I bet all points would align- I guess what I'm saying is I think Nintendo 's taking a more broad approach rather than a more niche like PSPro kind of approach.

    • @chrismueller1328
      @chrismueller1328 4 години тому

      You know, these are games. Playing games with technology. This is what's so fun. I think a lot of people in the industry forget that. I understand this, we can get so lost in the meta, we forget what it was all about to begin with and we can drop the ball. Maybe Nintendo will save the video game industry once again, or preserve it. The little Japanese toy company out of the 1800's. Very amazing story. Reminds us that videogames are more than computers and DVD players. They're fun.
      I left videogames for years before the Switch. When the Switch came out... When I turn on my Switch, I get that feeling like when I was a kid looking at the bright colorful lights of the dark arcade. Nintendo put the arcade back in videogames for me. Good stuff.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 4 години тому

      I'm surprised the steam deck isn't a more appealing option, unless it's just the annoyance of being more tethered during long sessions.

  • @VJ-lt9uk
    @VJ-lt9uk 4 хвилини тому

    If there’s no OLED I wont buy it

  • @Lwitkowski
    @Lwitkowski 2 години тому

    I’d rather have it smaller and oled. Lite oled but with detachable joycons. The oled is too heavy for me.

  • @kizanko
    @kizanko 3 години тому +2

    Why would they not make the joycons with better grip?...

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist Годину тому

      To make market for 3rd party company.

  • @MKBENTOT
    @MKBENTOT 2 години тому

    We have learned that Nintendo has to release the darn console!!!

  • @tarifulahmed3352
    @tarifulahmed3352 5 годин тому +1

    Switch 2 TDP will run on 5watt and docked will be 30watt.. handheld will put out res of 1080p High with ray tracing... Don't know about fps probably 30fps.. both..docked will be 4k with ray tracing .. t239's CPU is not that powerful.. GPU is okay rtx 3050-3060 level.. huge improvement over og switch

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому +1

      GPU will be significantly behind a 2050 laptop. Digital foundry made a video about that comparison already.
      3060 performance is not possible at anything below 20 wattage right now, especially not on 8nm lol.
      Quest 3 uses a 4nm adreno GPU and achieves ~4 Tflops at 7 wattage (RTX 3050 is 6,5 Tflops)

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 4 години тому +1

      Dude you think the switch 2 will be equivalent to a 3060? Not going to happen.

    • @tarifulahmed3352
      @tarifulahmed3352 4 години тому

      @@coolertuep that's an old video... T239 is custom made apu based on Orion chip which is used for AI and self driving projects.. t239 based on ampere but nivida also put some Lovelace tweak..It will be powerful than 2050.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 4 години тому

      @@tarifulahmed3352 it wont as it will be using a 8nm samsung node (basically 10nm). This is extremly outdated and will consumer a ton of energy at decent clockspeeds. So it will be significantly downclocked.
      Again, the quest 3 uses a state of the art 4nm SOC + active cooling as well and it isnt close to a 3050 or even 2050. switch 2 will be far behind that. It’s essentially 2019 technology lol

  • @ashtonwyss9757
    @ashtonwyss9757 3 години тому +2

    if this is really the next Nintendo console, it'll be quite disappointing... the first time Nintendo has decided not to innovate and create something new... just the same ol console iteration, this is sad

    • @Minarreal
      @Minarreal Годину тому +1

      It wouldn't be the first time and it would hardly be disappointing.

  • @LickinTheGun
    @LickinTheGun 5 годин тому

    Happy 135th Birthday Nintendo, 🎉

  • @IsidorTheNordicGuy
    @IsidorTheNordicGuy 5 годин тому +2

    I just hope the screen won’t be as bad as the OG switch. The rest of the leak sounds perfect to me. Ps5 and series X has been a major disappointment so I am looking forward to this!

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      Just get a PC

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 3 години тому

      It’s impossible for its screen to be worse than that lol. It will be a good quality Samsung LCD display that’s 1080p, HDR and has VRR.

    • @IsidorTheNordicGuy
      @IsidorTheNordicGuy 3 години тому

      @@ZackSNetwork was thinking more of color reproduction and calibration overall.

    • @IsidorTheNordicGuy
      @IsidorTheNordicGuy 3 години тому +2

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 already have one, sold my ps5 and series X and built a pc that surpass the ps5 pro so I’m good. Still want a switch 2 because Nintendo still makes fun games.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 години тому

      @@IsidorTheNordicGuy and they'll be playable on PC. Better than the actual hardware too