The attachments we form early on in life guide us in our perceptions and development. If we form attachments that support and validate our internal and external experiences, we can learn to trust our perceptions (both internal and external) and can progress to a positive self identity. However, if the attachments formed are unpredictable, judgmental, unapproachable and/or disinterested, one is likely to view themselves and others in a similar fashion whether it is true or not.
I'm glad that there's a discussion, but I don't think you can separate your mind from your body for the sake of definition. When the speaker brings in the idea of mind as a self-organizing relational regulatory process, I think he is addressing a realm that we are less used to considering. Language is a both limiting factor and that which makes the discussion possible, isolating objects artificially, identifying them momentarily - for the sake of differentiation and identifying relationships.
I think it's really up-to-date to insist on "integration". Integration, coordination, that's what every complex system needs, the socio-ecological system not an exception. Prof. Siegel also states that "competition" is a misrepresentation of nature. We are a networking system, and we should pursue health and care about the relational of our mind part with more determination and joy! I like this way of thinking, it brings me great pleasure.
He's not saying economists are mad. What I gather from it is that he's saying that a lot of economic theories have an inherent assumption that economic growth can continue forever. And not even that economists believe indefinite growth, but their theories don't seem to include any fail safes for when, not if, the growth can no longer be sustainable.
I get you, Domulys -and I'm not even a economist. Upon a comment like that, one can easily recognise one of those petty vindictive people who need to find a culprit to blame whenever they feel frustrated. And I would go further: tainting those of whom they are jealous with moral decay is just a way of coping with their own diminished self-worth. This reflects a simplistic understanding of society which divide it between those who are right and those who are vicious.
An economist is the one who as a child wants what you have, not something LIKE what you have, but exactly, the stuff you have, because you have it. Hedonism is deep within economist education (3-5 year return on investment is all that matters).
Quote from this talk - Mind definition agreed upon as valid by attendant anthroplogists, sociologists mathmaticians, philosophers, neuroscientists a neurosurgeon etc. "The mind can be defined is an embodied and relational process that regulates (self organizing -monitoring and modifying) the flow of energy."
"Integration is a transformation, not from the unknown to the known, but from the forms in which memory will not serve us to the forms in which it will." -- something that stayed with me from Calculus.
I'm thinking he's likely talking about the on-off neuron firing in the brain while making reference to the fact that there is no greater or lesser intensity of a neuron fire, it's either firing or not.
I want you to know that I "thumbed up" your comment by accident. Our current economic system is fundamentally and intrinsically flawed and doomed to collapse, this is a certainty. It also facilitates great injustice toward all beings on earth and suppresses the potential and natural humanity of human beings. Attenborough's quote makes perfect sense.
Great talk. RSA should call Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev. He has a lot to say on this topic. It might sound silly to those who havent listened to him. Do give it a try.
Ha such extreme naivete to assume that defining the mind and taking action will create health and compassion. Making the mind more effective will only strengthen our current behaviors. Worldwide health and compassion can only be manifested by our leadership!
When we learn language(s) as babies we acquire a foundational pattern of sounds the remain with us for life. If we attempt to learn a new language later in life, after the window of opportunity to form the structural pattern of sounds closes, we exhibit an accentuation that is characteristic of our first language. Very difficult to overcome. What else in our brain structure is like this, attachment to others? Perhaps we learn new patterns of attachment but it is awkward like language.
Well then wouldn't that definition be similar to soul? It's from interactions with yourself and others, you feel and perceive other things with it, when you understand it it is more stable and see with more depth and detail, and it is throughout your body.
Exactly what I was thinking. I thought he was going to say something about what our subconcious generated out of the first scenerio. My mirror neurons didn't pick up on his horrible acting apparently. Should have went with his inner Alec Baldwin from GGGL "Oh Yeah I used to be a salesman, it's a tuff racket."
xD man i'm a teenager from Italy, i'm pretty sure i didn't get you fully xD #)GGGL in the meaning of to laugh in a silly way with a mixture of short, high, and low pitched sounds. right? #)so i went inside this vid watch?v=rVJcpWbZ8eU but too much incomprehensible for me (low quality audio..) But maybe the meaning was that life runs and you have do be fast, and know what you're doing, right? Then from the vid description there were "coffee's for closers" and i ended un into another epic vid
Unfortunately i have to agree with you =/ like when at 9:08 he talks about the on-off connections maybe he saw "Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain" and get the information from that.. TOO VAGUE & Un-systematic presentation..
The pedantic introduction is a turn-off. He over-emphasizes the importance and need of a singular hegemonic definition of the mind. Lack of a consensus is not paralyzing. Questions drive us, actually. In education the goal is not to "develop the student's minds", but to help students develop specific knowledge, skills, and attitudes, which is a concrete and manageable goal. Anthropology is not the study of how "the mind" works in different cultures, that is a narrow approach to the discipline.
I don't think this guy knows what he is talking about. It isn't a case of 'just' brain activity, using the word 'just' is extremely dishonest in that context.
What a drudging, slow, uninteresting talk. . perhaps he had smething valuable to say... i guess ill never know . these comments seems much more interesting
I agree - very bold to state that defining the mind and taking action will create health and compassion
The attachments we form early on in life guide us in our perceptions and development. If we form attachments that support and validate our internal and external experiences, we can learn to trust our perceptions (both internal and external) and can progress to a positive self identity. However, if the attachments formed are unpredictable, judgmental, unapproachable and/or disinterested, one is likely to view themselves and others in a similar fashion whether it is true or not.
I'm glad that there's a discussion, but I don't think you can separate your mind from your body for the sake of definition. When the speaker brings in the idea of mind as a self-organizing relational regulatory process, I think he is addressing a realm that we are less used to considering. Language is a both limiting factor and that which makes the discussion possible, isolating objects artificially, identifying them momentarily - for the sake of differentiation and identifying relationships.
I think it's really up-to-date to insist on "integration". Integration, coordination, that's what every complex system needs, the socio-ecological system not an exception. Prof. Siegel also states that "competition" is a misrepresentation of nature. We are a networking system, and we should pursue health and care about the relational of our mind part with more determination and joy! I like this way of thinking, it brings me great pleasure.
He's not saying economists are mad. What I gather from it is that he's saying that a lot of economic theories have an inherent assumption that economic growth can continue forever. And not even that economists believe indefinite growth, but their theories don't seem to include any fail safes for when, not if, the growth can no longer be sustainable.
I enjoyed it.
I get you, Domulys -and I'm not even a economist. Upon a comment like that, one can easily recognise one of those petty vindictive people who need to find a culprit to blame whenever they feel frustrated. And I would go further: tainting those of whom they are jealous with moral decay is just a way of coping with their own diminished self-worth. This reflects a simplistic understanding of society which divide it between those who are right and those who are vicious.
An economist is the one who as a child wants what you have, not something LIKE what you have, but exactly, the stuff you have, because you have it. Hedonism is deep within economist education (3-5 year return on investment is all that matters).
Quote from this talk - Mind definition agreed upon as valid by attendant anthroplogists, sociologists mathmaticians, philosophers, neuroscientists a neurosurgeon etc.
"The mind can be defined is an embodied and relational process that regulates (self organizing -monitoring and modifying) the flow of energy."
"Integration is a transformation, not from the unknown to the known, but from the forms in which memory will not serve us to the forms in which it will." -- something that stayed with me from Calculus.
Information is the organization of matter-energy, no need for redundancy.
"Mind can be interpreted as the collective aspects of intellect and consciousness."
I thought I was being very attentive yet the video is finished and I still feel the same...
well i enjoyed the talk...
It's traditional to use quotations marks to represent exactly what is said and not a vague approximation of it.
so glad people are starting to see the truth of our fucked up system
I'm thinking he's likely talking about the on-off neuron firing in the brain while making reference to the fact that there is no greater or lesser intensity of a neuron fire, it's either firing or not.
I want you to know that I "thumbed up" your comment by accident. Our current economic system is fundamentally and intrinsically flawed and doomed to collapse, this is a certainty. It also facilitates great injustice toward all beings on earth and suppresses the potential and natural humanity of human beings. Attenborough's quote makes perfect sense.
Great talk.
RSA should call Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev. He has a lot to say on this topic.
It might sound silly to those who havent listened to him. Do give it a try.
and different molecule transmitters, electric charges, frequencys there are humongos amounts of ways to channel information for neurons
Ha such extreme naivete to assume that defining the mind and taking action will create health and compassion. Making the mind more effective will only strengthen our current behaviors. Worldwide health and compassion can only be manifested by our leadership!
7:36 is a better spot to start if you want to avoid the introduction crap he starts with.
besides he didnt say economists are mad. he said people that believe that are either mad OR an economist.
He didn't actually say that though. He said "Anyone who belives in indefinate growth on a physically finite planet is either mad or an economist."
When we learn language(s) as babies we acquire a foundational pattern of sounds the remain with us for life. If we attempt to learn a new language later in life, after the window of opportunity to form the structural pattern of sounds closes, we exhibit an accentuation that is characteristic of our first language. Very difficult to overcome.
What else in our brain structure is like this, attachment to others?
Perhaps we learn new patterns of attachment but it is awkward like language.
10:12 hilarious! Maybe he should hope the teenager doesn't decide to arm himself. Sympathy to this guy's kids.
His mathematical descriptions sound a lot like Mandelbrot's fractal geometry.
Well then wouldn't that definition be similar to soul? It's from interactions with yourself and others, you feel and perceive other things with it, when you understand it it is more stable and see with more depth and detail, and it is throughout your body.
This guy will live out his life believing in prophecy and make up ways to "rationalize" his beliefs once the dates of his apocalypse come and go.
I found this to be a very confusing talk. Did anyone understand what was his reasoning that mind is more than "just brain activity"?
...and information"
7, 7, 7 = 21 + 1 (22)
and your chariot goes
umad?
or like at 13:00 the 2 movements weren't equal AT ALL,
the first seems exactly the pope / priest movement during the cerimony
isn't it?xD
Exactly what I was thinking. I thought he was going to say something about what our subconcious generated out of the first scenerio. My mirror neurons didn't pick up on his horrible acting apparently. Should have went with his inner Alec Baldwin from GGGL "Oh Yeah I used to be a salesman, it's a tuff racket."
Funny, I was just thinking the exact opposite.
I want the guy in the blue shirt's job...
But if the economy is cheese, then is Down Jones the grater?
i like how you used the word "synergy'
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Do Mayonnaise good brain developing!
xD
man i'm a teenager from Italy, i'm pretty sure i didn't get you fully xD
#)GGGL in the meaning of
to laugh in a silly way with a mixture of short, high, and low pitched sounds.
right?
#)so i went inside this vid watch?v=rVJcpWbZ8eU
but too much incomprehensible for me (low quality audio..)
But maybe the meaning was that life runs and you have do be fast, and know what you're doing, right?
Then from the vid description there were "coffee's for closers" and i ended un into another epic vid
Unfortunately i have to agree with you =/
like when at 9:08 he talks about the on-off connections
maybe he saw "Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain" and get the information from that..
TOO VAGUE & Un-systematic presentation..
Man, I hate that "... economists are mad ..." intro quote so much. Of all the awesome soundbites, why start off with one so inflammatory and divisive?
Good speaker but the substance is very abstract. I just hear rhetorical terms but there is nothing concrete in it.
He really straw manned the claim that the mind is what brain does.
the mind...is a terrible thing to waste
The pedantic introduction is a turn-off. He over-emphasizes the importance and need of a singular hegemonic definition of the mind. Lack of a consensus is not paralyzing. Questions drive us, actually. In education the goal is not to "develop the student's minds", but to help students develop specific knowledge, skills, and attitudes, which is a concrete and manageable goal. Anthropology is not the study of how "the mind" works in different cultures, that is a narrow approach to the discipline.
What an unintelligent talk. I'm always disappointed when watching RSA and is expecting a TED-talk.
Lawyers do not have a definition of law :D FYI
I don't think this guy knows what he is talking about. It isn't a case of 'just' brain activity, using the word 'just' is extremely dishonest in that context.
Economist detected.
What a drudging, slow, uninteresting talk.
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perhaps he had smething valuable to say... i guess ill never know
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these comments seems much more interesting