I've been watching the NBA since ' 88. The best pick and roll ever is Jokic - Murray. Primarily due to Jokic's incredible sense of space and his unreal vision/assistance. Another thing, Jokic is literally by far the most accurate basketball player ever between 3-10 feet + top 10 ever between 10-16 feet. Third Murray when he gets fired up is unstoppable. Plus Jokic makes a lot of smart blocks. And they still have a bunch of variations in the pick and roll extension.
I'd argue the Steph/KD PnR was up there too.. Truly pick your poison with the best shooter ever and one of the best shooters ever.. We only got to see 2.5~ seasons of it though, but GS never really spams PnR.. They broke out the Steph/KD PnR in the playoffs.. Crazily, it worked best when Steph was the screener lolol.. Talk about gravity.. Jokic is amazing and one of the best bigs ever, imo, but he doesnt have, nor command, that level of gravity.. And with Steph, you gotta pick him up at the hotel before the game.. you've seen the clip, lol..
@@spiritoflifeinchristminist9764curry shooting an open three off a screen is about as efficient as a capable big rolling to the basket so it cancels imo
Unless this is just brown as the initiator and porzingis as the pick guy i dont think you explained thier duo as well. That more tatum/porzingis. Brown and porzingis is two fold were jb eats off drives & midrange while kp gets lobs mismatch postups and open 3s. But there is another dynamic where jb is either the pick man or uses kp body to have kp defender screen jb man and jb cuts off that. Its been alot of kp assist on jb cuts this yr basically taking smarts role
Pacers adding a premier wing scorer next to the Hali/Turner PnR will add another wrinkle to their offense come playoff time. Can’t wait to see how good they look then
I like watching maxey and dame because their style is very similar and dame is one of my favourite players ever. I think why the guan is and dame 2 man game hasn’t worked is because of giannis limitations as a spacer and he doesn’t have the lower body strength like Embiid to set good screens to distract the POA defender.
Purely for pick and roll plays, it's too bad we lost the Embiid/Harden pairing. Watching them go to work in PnR last year was like a can opener prying open the lid of the defense
Watching Lillard his entire tenure in portland, he always love a solid screen set and a little late roll which allows him to attack the paint. Giannis for some reason rolls early and surprisingly sets not solid screen (compared to guys like nurkic, adams, adebayo, jokic)
It's insane, because the play is still MONEY! That shows you how high the ceiling is for Giannis and Dame playing next to each other. Dame if he just hit his career average in fg% would be averaging 27 a long with Giannis' 30. Team is something like 20-2 when Dame hits at least 26. 😳
@@duplexarco best season of his career.. the playmaking from him is so important for the Celtics Feels like if they get more than 5-6 assists from Jaylen they can’t lose. Would be curious to see their record under those circumstances (6+ assists)
@@duplexarcoI think the criticism is he can’t drive and finish with his left. He’ll stop and pop a jumper. I still think he gets way too much criticism for how good he is tho
@@bobblade2681 the criticism *should be* that he kept running head first into 2+ defenders with no real plan, leading to unneccessary turnovers. he's a decent left hand player, but he's stepped up his IQ game which was the actual problem
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What if both players who perform the p&r are passing savants, like for example if Luka and Jokic were playing together? They are essentially the same player but in different body types. 😜
Do you have an update on your defend from behind defense strategy and could you do a breakdown on the houston cougars college rush style defense? Great vids as always!
Its just mainly highlighting browns scoring but KP has been feasting on the 3 when teams play drop coverage on him. Also KP has been a good roll threat catching lobs. Jaylen has a fair share of assists considering everyone on that starting 5 have been playmaking too.
I started to do this but it really seemed like small sample size theater, Middleton missing 6 games… their defense is actually better… so let’s see how the next 10 games go
I call this play every single time on 2k. it's perfect. It gets you an open shot, or an easy assist to the big man, or a corner 3 assist if they double team
I'd say one that deserves to be here is the mike Conley Rudy Gobert empty corner pick and roll. Although they don't spam it it's unstoppable when the wolves pull it out
Give the Lakers a new teammate movement without the ball style 3-point shooter at 2-Guard to set the backscreen for the Pick & Roll ballscreener, then pop outside for catch & shoot Top of Key 3-pointers in SPAIN PICK & ROLL off D'Angelo Russell's passes. Lakers would be Top 3 NBA for Pick & Roll success.
Bucks fans have been saying it all year, Giannis sets awful screens and it’s killing the offense. 1.23 Points per possession is insane considering how poorly dames shooting, Giannis’ bad screens, and how they’re still not fully in sync with each other. When they figure it out, devastating.
1-Pass Offense & many times ISO-MODE Zero-Pass Offense. 1 of my least favorite "actions" if there is not at least 1 pass before the Pick & Roll "action."
Wrong. Giannis rolling to the rim helps free up defenders from his pick and roll partner in question because they have to prioritize stoping him getting to the rim compared to other options, and if he gets better at setting physical screens and rolling consistently rather than popping out the three point line like he does at times, he's only going to make that play more difficult to guard because he's the most lethal roller in the NBA. If you choose to try and stop both, there's a bunch of great three point shooters surrounding them (like Beasley and Middleton) that'll be open. Giannis just has to stop remaining still when screening and try to roll constantly instead. Also even if you sag off of Giannis and try to contain Dame because you're not worried about Giannis taking a three, that just means you've given space for Giannis to pick up steam and go downhill which nobody can stop.
Lol imagine doing a vid about best PnR and not including the duo who just steamrolled to a title spamming PnR. And who both can be the ball handler OR the roll man
Do any of yall watch the nba? Jokic and Murray best duo but nor pick and roll. None of yall watch those pacers. Hali and turner for sure. Not best combo but obviously pick and roll
How the fuck do you make a pick and roll video and not put Luka in there?? Worse still you put DAME in there and he's certified washed this year dude wtf
artistry? 😂😂😂 it’s basketball one of the most basic sport out there. especially when everyone stands in the corner. basically any action is two on two at best. dead sport
“When you watch the modern game,” it becomes obvious that they’re all soft as hell, the defensive coaching is ABYSMAL, and the product is basically unwatchable.
Yes sure. Go watch borring one dimensional Mutombo or Ewing or super boring isolation from Iverson or Kobe chucking and ballhogging. 90 ies are most overrated era ever. Borring as hell.
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 😄 Yes, that was peak with All Stars like Mehmet Okur, Luol freaking Deng, super borring isolation and ballhoging from Kobe, Iverson etc. That was peak with Roy Hibert like All Star😄 Joe Johnson 7 time All Star with his chucking isolations. Jokic is 10 times more interesting than the boring Dirk who only shot from isolations. I'd rather watch Luka, Jokic, Morant and the rest for 2 minutes than a lumberjack Ben Wallace or boring Duncan.
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Honestly I haven’t seen the P&R look so beautiful until I saw Jokic and Murray do it in last year as they destroyed my lakers
I've been watching the NBA since ' 88. The best pick and roll ever is Jokic - Murray. Primarily due to Jokic's incredible sense of space and his unreal vision/assistance. Another thing, Jokic is literally by far the most accurate basketball player ever between 3-10 feet + top 10 ever between 10-16 feet. Third Murray when he gets fired up is unstoppable. Plus Jokic makes a lot of smart blocks. And they still have a bunch of variations in the pick and roll extension.
I'd argue the Steph/KD PnR was up there too.. Truly pick your poison with the best shooter ever and one of the best shooters ever.. We only got to see 2.5~ seasons of it though, but GS never really spams PnR.. They broke out the Steph/KD PnR in the playoffs.. Crazily, it worked best when Steph was the screener lolol.. Talk about gravity.. Jokic is amazing and one of the best bigs ever, imo, but he doesnt have, nor command, that level of gravity.. And with Steph, you gotta pick him up at the hotel before the game.. you've seen the clip, lol..
No it hali and turner
@@dre32pittI have never seen KD be the screen setter in a pick and roll
@@chrilpy Watch 16-19 GS playoff games.. They broke it out as like a 'in case of emergency' type of weapon, lol
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Jokic and Murray is by far the best pick and roll pairing in the league
Draymond/Steph, Jokic/Murray instantly spring to mind.
The only knock for the Dubs is their *PnR doesnt involve a true Center* for maximum effect as with other top teams on this list....
@@spiritoflifeinchristminist9764curry shooting an open three off a screen is about as efficient as a capable big rolling to the basket so it cancels imo
@@cjc1212 The idea was not that it isnt efficient. Its having more options with a true big n curry running it...Then at times curry n green.
Unless this is just brown as the initiator and porzingis as the pick guy i dont think you explained thier duo as well. That more tatum/porzingis. Brown and porzingis is two fold were jb eats off drives & midrange while kp gets lobs mismatch postups and open 3s. But there is another dynamic where jb is either the pick man or uses kp body to have kp defender screen jb man and jb cuts off that. Its been alot of kp assist on jb cuts this yr basically taking smarts role
Pacers adding a premier wing scorer next to the Hali/Turner PnR will add another wrinkle to their offense come playoff time. Can’t wait to see how good they look then
I like watching maxey and dame because their style is very similar and dame is one of my favourite players ever. I think why the guan is and dame 2 man game hasn’t worked is because of giannis limitations as a spacer and he doesn’t have the lower body strength like Embiid to set good screens to distract the POA defender.
Purely for pick and roll plays, it's too bad we lost the Embiid/Harden pairing. Watching them go to work in PnR last year was like a can opener prying open the lid of the defense
Harden is a pick roll grandmaster. He can and has made it work beautifully with every center he’s ever played with
come playoff time, we all know only one pair will absolutely destroy everyone 😂 Jokic / Murray are unstoppable
Watching Lillard his entire tenure in portland, he always love a solid screen set and a little late roll which allows him to attack the paint. Giannis for some reason rolls early and surprisingly sets not solid screen (compared to guys like nurkic, adams, adebayo, jokic)
It's insane, because the play is still MONEY! That shows you how high the ceiling is for Giannis and Dame playing next to each other. Dame if he just hit his career average in fg% would be averaging 27 a long with Giannis' 30. Team is something like 20-2 when Dame hits at least 26. 😳
Totally… he doesn’t need to set physical picks but I do worry it’ll be more of an issue in the playoffs
Only one team in here who’s best player isn’t even involved in the action… that’s scary
And the man who involved into that action was being ridiculed for not having a left hand. That man's dedication to improve really pays off.
#Juice7
@@duplexarco best season of his career.. the playmaking from him is so important for the Celtics
Feels like if they get more than 5-6 assists from Jaylen they can’t lose. Would be curious to see their record under those circumstances (6+ assists)
@@duplexarcoI think the criticism is he can’t drive and finish with his left. He’ll stop and pop a jumper. I still think he gets way too much criticism for how good he is tho
@@bobblade2681 the criticism *should be* that he kept running head first into 2+ defenders with no real plan, leading to unneccessary turnovers. he's a decent left hand player, but he's stepped up his IQ game which was the actual problem
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I was surprised that Lebron and AD were not on that pick and roll list.
Miami probably not close to some of these teams in the pick and roll but i think their a underrated pick and roll team
Waiting for your breakdown of the 3pt shooting forms from the contest😂
don't sleep on that jb kp pnr man. people act like jb doesn't make anyone else better but he's single-handedly boosting kps numbers.
underrated mike conley and rudy gobert
Kristaps in pick and roll is highly underrated!
He stretches the floor like crazy
@@bballbreakdown so why didn't you talk more about what he brings to the table. All you talked about was JB shooting and finishing
Jokic & Murray's BEST 2-Man Game Moments This Postseason!..just watch it
What if both players who perform the p&r are passing savants, like for example if Luka and Jokic were playing together? They are essentially the same player but in different body types. 😜
It’s jokic and Jamal that’s the only right answer.
Do you have an update on your defend from behind defense strategy and could you do a breakdown on the houston cougars college rush style defense? Great vids as always!
I’ll have an update soon on the Chase defense… and I’ll check the Cougars defense but it just sounds like blitzing the PnR, right?
cookies and cream.
Pretty easily Jokic-Murray
5:09 ayooo
No mention of Murray & jokic ?
Damn for someone talking ball. You really see the logos
They weren’t in the top 3 🤷🏻♂️
Great vid
How do you make a video about pick and roll and not put Harden in it?
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Shocked Luka isn’t here he’s genuinely one of the best pick and roll players we’ve ever seen
His roll men haven’t been good
Him and Lively are included in the top 10, but the video only broke down the top3 PnR pairs.
He’s just now got his roll man though
@@kingjaydex7464 one of his ex roll men occupies two slots in this top4
He is by far the best in PPP as a P&R ballhandler overall. He just does not have an outstanding pairing, he is elite all the same with any roll big.
5:08 AYO
Come on Coach? Murray/Jokic? I know that you're not such a Jokic fan, but still, admit that Denver plays best PR...
How could you possibly say I’m not a Jokic fan????
The best PnR player is James Harden, partner him with Giannis and you will see the ultimate teamup
Can you go back to doing games recap style videos ? Just like the one u did for dlo against kings and harden against the warriors
Thank you for putting some love to my boys cookies and cream
Steph and Draymond, LeBron and Anthony, Towns and Gobert, Maxey and Embiid
so the Brown/Kristaps P&R is just Brown shooting it every time
Its just mainly highlighting browns scoring but KP has been feasting on the 3 when teams play drop coverage on him. Also KP has been a good roll threat catching lobs. Jaylen has a fair share of assists considering everyone on that starting 5 have been playmaking too.
Can you do a breakdown on the Bucks struggles since Glenn became the head coach
I started to do this but it really seemed like small sample size theater, Middleton missing 6 games… their defense is actually better… so let’s see how the next 10 games go
I call this play every single time on 2k. it's perfect. It gets you an open shot, or an easy assist to the big man, or a corner 3 assist if they double team
Facts so do I , pick an roll in 2k is so OP 😂😂 yet people still try to shoot off dribble 3s
I'd say one that deserves to be here is the mike Conley Rudy Gobert empty corner pick and roll. Although they don't spam it it's unstoppable when the wolves pull it out
Check Monk/Sabonis.. some cool stuff there
Stockton-Malone P&R is perhaps the best in NBA history.
PnR partner
Stockton-Malone = 0 ring
Murray-Joker = 1 ring
@@doge1590 fact, but gotta also consider the Jazz had to play against the GOAT, twice...
Give the Lakers a new teammate movement without the ball style 3-point shooter at 2-Guard to set the backscreen for the Pick & Roll ballscreener, then pop outside for catch & shoot Top of Key 3-pointers in SPAIN PICK & ROLL off D'Angelo Russell's passes. Lakers would be Top 3 NBA for Pick & Roll success.
Bucks fans have been saying it all year, Giannis sets awful screens and it’s killing the offense. 1.23 Points per possession is insane considering how poorly dames shooting, Giannis’ bad screens, and how they’re still not fully in sync with each other. When they figure it out, devastating.
LeBron and AD are fun to watch
Wall and Gortat
3pt contest analysis this year?
Best pick and roll was kd and steph both 3 level scorers in there prime
Cookies n Cream
Stockton and Malone😂
Haliburton IS what we thought LaMelo was gonna be
Fred this season
Giannis not getting good what?! ayyeee yoooo
Missing AD Bron 2020 pick n roll
Idc what the stats say. Damian lillard is not a good playmaker in the pick and roll. Never attacks inside.
Who else waiting for the 3 point contest break down
It seems like less and less people over the years want to see them…
It’s gotta be sabonis. He’s the gold standard when it comes to pick and roll
Answer is me in 2k
James Harden with the whole Clippers team?
gotta go watch watch Murray&jokic after this shit. who cares about milwaukee bad p&r, prozings&brwon
1-Pass Offense & many times ISO-MODE Zero-Pass Offense.
1 of my least favorite "actions" if there is not at least 1 pass before the Pick & Roll "action."
Luka would be higher on the list if he wasn’t getting doubled most of the time.
Just discredit the clippers with James harden pick.and roll
James Harden and every dude who is 6’10 or taller.
5:10 🤦🏾♂️
Giannis couldnt shoot his way out of a cardboard box. It severely handicaps any pick and roll potential
Wrong. Giannis rolling to the rim helps free up defenders from his pick and roll partner in question because they have to prioritize stoping him getting to the rim compared to other options, and if he gets better at setting physical screens and rolling consistently rather than popping out the three point line like he does at times, he's only going to make that play more difficult to guard because he's the most lethal roller in the NBA. If you choose to try and stop both, there's a bunch of great three point shooters surrounding them (like Beasley and Middleton) that'll be open. Giannis just has to stop remaining still when screening and try to roll constantly instead. Also even if you sag off of Giannis and try to contain Dame because you're not worried about Giannis taking a three, that just means you've given space for Giannis to pick up steam and go downhill which nobody can stop.
Giannis 😡💢
Lol imagine doing a vid about best PnR and not including the duo who just steamrolled to a title spamming PnR. And who both can be the ball handler OR the roll man
Luka, Lively? Sigh
Bballbreakdown is a Luka hater.
It’ll be undeniable soon enough
Hello
Steph and Dray 4 P&Rs short of being qualified for the list and would have been ranked #1
Is that right??
@@bballbreakdown It was what Kirk tweeted/replied to on his post you referenced
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Do any of yall watch the nba? Jokic and Murray best duo but nor pick and roll. None of yall watch those pacers. Hali and turner for sure. Not best combo but obviously pick and roll
Where is Luka!!! He’s the best pick n roll player with high IQ
Luka is so good at the pick and roll you didn’t even put him. But i understand you only make videos on him when you think you’ll get massive views.
How the fuck do you make a pick and roll video and not put Luka in there?? Worse still you put DAME in there and he's certified washed this year dude wtf
Did u see the list?
It has to do with efficiency not with players pay attention sir
To me its luka and anyone else 😂
artistry? 😂😂😂 it’s basketball one of the most basic sport out there. especially when everyone stands in the corner. basically any action is two on two at best. dead sport
“When you watch the modern game,” it becomes obvious that they’re all soft as hell, the defensive coaching is ABYSMAL, and the product is basically unwatchable.
Yes sure. Go watch borring one dimensional Mutombo or Ewing or super boring isolation from Iverson or Kobe chucking and ballhogging. 90 ies are most overrated era ever. Borring as hell.
That’s why teams have to start running my defense I came up with!
@@milosjovicevic6083I was just watching Bulls vs Sonics 1996, my soul literally hurt watching that Sonics offense
Also they got cooked by Luc Longley
@@milosjovicevic6083 I'd take 90s over modern NBA any day, 2000s was peak
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 😄
Yes, that was peak with All Stars like Mehmet Okur, Luol freaking Deng, super borring isolation and ballhoging from Kobe, Iverson etc. That was peak with Roy Hibert like All Star😄
Joe Johnson 7 time All Star with his chucking isolations. Jokic is 10 times more interesting than the boring Dirk who only shot from isolations. I'd rather watch Luka, Jokic, Morant and the rest for 2 minutes than a lumberjack Ben Wallace or boring Duncan.