@@Gary-oy1ji , please explain your statement. I have seen some of the reporting and I do not see a contradiction with my statement. I see an attempt to discredit Boeing. I see an incompetent NASA.. if there is additional material facts which have not been shared, I see a cover-up.
NASA has shown so much caution with a crew on Starliner, it's a pretty good bet that Butch and Suni will return on Dragon, sometime much later than September.
What do you get when you cross Gilligan's Island with Lost in Space? Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty sailin' man, the Skipper brave and sure...
They haven’t scheduled any missions. Late 2025 is just the current target window. However, NASA has already contracted with Boeing to fly six missions, so it’s not going just throw that away.
If the crew safety was a concern they wouldn’t even consider bringing them back on that pile of junk. They sent them up there knowing they had a problem with it. They haven’t learned their lessons from two previous catastrophic disasters with the shuttle. They knew they had problems with both of those but ignored good advice.
It is incredible that they would risk the astronauts lives in this troubled spacecraft when there is NO reason to except saving Boeing's damaged reputation!
I this is the end of Congress sending money to Boeing, Boeing will stop sending (re)election 'contributions' to Congress. Sorry. Ain't happening. That money is needed to produce TV soundbites to convince low-informed voters that Congress is not corrupt.
Astronauts are expendable, like anybody else. We treat them no differently from the victims of mindless violence who die from idiots with guns. To be fair though, the idiots with guns are eclipsed by the idiots who allow them to own guns in the first place…….
🤔🤔 Soooo an Outside person that will not be responsible for Fatal failure is giving advice to NASA ???… 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ This is a Clown World … or Twilight Zone episode .
They are coming back on Space X crewed ship. They are not going to risk it with crew with so much uncertainty on different things that are having issues with.
The Starliner has lost all credibility, Boeing should let the crew come home on SpaceX. It would destroy Boeing if something went wrong with Starliner with the crew on board.
The batteries on Starliner are near depleted by now. Originally Boeing said they had a 60 day window for the batteries, and have gone way past that best before date. This is very concerning, if they expect Butch and Suni to ride it back home.
The batteries on Starliner recharge from ISS power. The initial window was a certification limit for these particular batteries, and in-orbit performance has shown the batteries haven't really degraded. They're designed for 210 days on the station anyway.
No matter who the maker is we should NEVER put a human life in jeopardy especially if there is another safe option. NASA Haven’t we learned from the past?
Absolutely NASA don't want to gamble with two astronauts life. To save Boeing reputation, they probably will ask Russia to bring these two astronauts home instead of using SpaceX Dragon.
This was my final straw. Getting tired of the false clickbaits. Yes, this is not an arport I dont need to anounce my departure {or un docking, heh) but Im unsubscribing. Cheers.
I don't know about everyone else, but why would we risk sending home human bodies and a machine that is absolutely broken it couldn't have even been moved for re-entry, let alone put two human bodies inside a broken machine and then send it through one of the roughest toughest parts of spacecraft re-entry that makes no sense whatsoever
Starliner is in better shape than the SS Columbia was known to be when they sent 7 astronauts to their doom. NASA is the most incompetent corporate welfare scam in the Government today. Starliner crewed risks 2 lives, (At a minimum, only one astronaut should be "risked.") unscrewed, and they could end up deorbiting the ISS in a spectacular fashion. Either way, the bean counters can claim a win.
Lets congratulate Soyuz and progress 89 for providing much needed fresh supplies to Starliner crew in the mission brief, Russia showing compassion to the US astronauts.
Good Morning, Kev. I don't think they will come home on Starliner. To much of a risk. To many eyes on it now. I don't think the Starliner system after sitting idle this long with all the flaws it already has is a safe bet. Bring them home on the Falcon 9 and end this saga. Good news for SpaceX. Seeing come home never gets old. I'm glad to see someone is trying to pick up Viper. Great Episode Kev. Have a Great Day.
Not that our untrained opinions matter but if it were my choice I'd send the Starliner back uncrewed. If there's any question at all about the capsule's safety it's not worth the risk. Why use a doubtful vehicle when two reliable backups are available?
This had problems on launch, problem getting to ISS, so how can we not expect problems coming home, if NASA and Boeing are smart, it will come back without crew.
I am going to say if I was the crew I would not want to come back on Starliner. I would prefer something that has not been broken down for weeks :).. Just me?
I predict it'll be uncrewed. I don't see NASA willing to accept the incremental risk given their history. Uncrewed return may be embarrassing for Boeing at worst.
Anything Boeing touches is an absolute hot mess. I’m in Jesus Christ. They were moving this thing down the road in a window popped out. Can you imagine how it’s gonna handle reentry
I'm one of the original designers of the Apollo LRVs, and IM would be idiots to take over this Viper project. First, it is only designed to last for three-Moon-days. Just look at the wheels, this thing cannot even traverse a 4-degree slope (or less), as based on the Mars Rovers, without slipping, and is so top-heavy that it will fall over on a 12+degree slope. The "craters" where there might be water, have steep volcanic ejecta sides, with much steeper angles. Then chances of this machine even getting halfway down, without tipping over, are virtually negligible. Also, since these craters are presumed to be "frozen solid", how will these mickey-mouse wheels even hold on solid rock, or frozen ice. Also there are only four wheels. You cannot take such a vehicle down crater walls, where there are 3D dissimilarities in the slopes. Any practical crawler will require a different chassis setup, and at least the usual 6-wheel bogie. We did crater-work in the 60s and 70s on this, and our vehicles were used to pull out two competing vehicles, after they became entrapped into "fake craters" which were created for this same purpose. That history is well known and has several books written about it. Making wheels which work on rocks is a major difficulty and the 4WD guys who go out into the mountains realize this. The Viper vehicle will only work on soft dirt and flattish surfaces, and the chances of it finding any Ice inside a crater is virtually negligible. Also how the heck is it going to send out the data, when the wimpy antenna is buried in a crater, without line-of-sight. NASA would need a polar orbiter around the Moon to get Comm. That is one of their plans, and also for Mars, but it "ain't" happening soon. Whoever signed off on this project needs to be removed.
@@AmbientMorality Not with those wheels on rocks. These tests are always done on a soft surface (as we sometimes did) to simulate an average Moon surface. Our tests, going back to the 60's, show that this fails almost all of the time, with "non-conforming" wheels. That is why our LRV wheels are "soft", and actually conform to the rocks. Mars rovers also have this same problem. Not only are their wheels cracking (due to the glass-transition temperatures of the metals (and plastics) used, NASA is so scared to climb over anything bigger than a fist, that it selects basically sand/dust routes to get from point A to B. Viper will not be able to travel more than about a mile, if they try to travel it at 200-degrees-below-zero, in a crater. It will have to park somewhere, to await the next sunlight cycle. If that is the case, then there will be sunlight in that crater, and there will be no surface water anywhere. This design is total crap, and has absolutely no chance of finding any new data, that we already don't know about, from prior missions. What NASA needs desperately is a High-Definition Radar mapper, at down about 10-miles from the surface, to get accurate mapping of the projected actual landing site, and crater walls of where they are going to go in. OR land the lander INTO the crater, and hope there is a stable floor there (not likely). PassItOn.
NASA will never let the Astronauts at the ISS that had arrived on a Boeing Starliner to return on a Spacex capsule - as they are politically opposed to Spacex, and would keep them in space for another year before considering Spacex rescue them !
Dead Solid Perfect analysis, fren! not no way not no how will gloho allow elon to rescue their _stranded_ #SpacePuppet 'astronauts'; gloho minds most likely interp is that elon is just like themselves, concerned solely w _power_ at any cost, even at cost of the lives of those two poor gloNASAho stranded #SpacePuppets. imho... ;-)
NASA, who awarded SpaceX the HLS contract, the ISS deorbit vehicle contract, commercial crew contract, and literally saved the company with the CRS contract series, is clearly opposed to SpaceX
That crew would be very stupid to agree to ride that piece of crap through a reentry. If they agree to do it, I hate to say this, but, I believe they will be signing their own death warrant. Starliner is a a piece of crap and should never have been certified for human flight. NASA should be completely shut down except for a basic regulatory role, but their way to over-bureaucratic to be in the actual spaceflight business. Leave the actual spaceflight business to private companies like SpaceX. That is where the future of spaceflight resides.
NASA has no regulatory role. They're a science and engineering research agency. They develop rockets because there weren't commercial options historically, and I agree that more of that can become private as the commercial market grows. However, their science and exploration missions are extremely important and not something that can be replaced by private companies. NASA's engineering research and development is also extremely important.
@@AmbientMorality NASA shouldn't be anywhere near manned spaceflight. You have a much more positive view of NASA than I do. To me NASA is just an overbloated government bureaucracy. Also most of the research and development in the spaceflight industry is being done by SpaceX and other private companies. Its true most of them do use NASA test facilities because those facilities are first class, no doubt and that is fine. The private market could do what NASA does for much less money because most of them are not bloated bureaucracies thus they are able to respond to new technology and changes much faster than any government run operation like NASA can. NASA, like the Pentagon, is used as a piggy bank by members of Congress where as private companies are not because they're not controlled by Congress like NASA is.
@@jamesbrown5600 Hmm, two things. A major part of what NASA does is space science, and spaceflight is just a means to that end. Companies do have incentives for launch vehicle development, but a company isn't particularly likely to fund something like a space telescope or a mission to Europa. Second, while companies do their own research and development, they base their work off of a lot that NASA and other agencies have done. You touched on that a bit with facilities, like with SpaceX's PICA-X development. PICA-X also was developed with NASA experts working alongside SpaceX and it of course built off a NASA-developed heat shield technology. I think you can find NASA has financially supported research and development for nearly every space startup in the US, at least to some degree. They saved SpaceX in the early days! I'm ignoring the aviation side of NASA a little here. I don't think either Airbus or Boeing would do anything innovative because it's just so risky and expensive, but I think there's a valid argument that the duopoly is a large component of that.
What nobody is saying is that Boeing is acting as a contractor, meaning they don't really do work unless they get a government contract. Why this matters is as SpaceX has demonstrated the development of man-rated spacecraft and related technologies takes years and decades, not a 5 year contract to build a specific capsule. And it doesn't help that Boeing has lost the corporate culture that's produced by people who won't cut corners on engineering.
As a SpaceX fan, on the one hand, I note how this just underscores SpaceX’s unique and unprecedented position in the private space industry. On the other hand, it would be better for the future of space exploration if we didn’t end up with all the eggs in one basket. I want to see other successful options available, and I hope Starliner can still be one.
Apparently the Starliner was not configured for autonomous flight and it was estimated that it would take a week to reconfigure it! That could have been done by now by Butch and/or Suni. If I was NASA, getting the two astronauts back would be the priority. Getting Space X to send up a pair of suits for Butch and Suni either with a dedicated Dragon or as part of the scheduled crew mission. This lets Boeing do more tests with the Starliner undocked and freeing up the airlock. Boeing can spend as long as they like doing tests as they bring Starliner back and the astronauts are certain to be returned safely. A dedicated Dragon would be the more expensive option maybe, but would not affect the ISS scheduling which would surely save on extra costs there. They would also have the opportunity to send up replacement supplies for what Butch and Suni have been using extra on the ISS. This also mean that Butch and Suni would be the first astronauts to have flown in both vehicles.
your analysis most perspicacious seems spot on, but for the complete lack of regard for the wholly solely political foundations of #ThisCurrentCrisis; wherein political consideratoins ovverride all other factors, imho... worse comes to worst, pols will leave em there til after election, putting off til tomorrow what may cause unwanted attn on their other fails myriad even now collapsing around their ears, lol. imho... ;-)
Id this Stuckliner mission ever again should return with people on bord i think that the chance for that people to survive that very return is far below 50%.
Your microphone compression seems to be set too high. its crushing the latter half of some words. Thanks for the videos, I've been watching every one lately.
You're kidding me. Both NASA and Boeing don't want to use SpaceX Dragon because of their big ego. Two astronauts will stay at ISS until next Boeing Starliner mission. When ?? whose know.
The uncrewed return will only happen if the autonomous software can be downloaded into the Starliner's computer. Otherwise, the spacecraft will present a danger of collision with the ISS.
I suspect this is not really true. They point it out all the time as a possibility, but given the assignment, SpaceX could easily develop a small "tug boat rocket" that would propel the capsule into a higher or lower orbit. Remember they are going to de-orbit the ISS in 2030 you only have to keep them apart for 6 years.
Have they fixed the issues?? all the information Boeing released said Starliner could be run fully automated, the pilots could take control at any time, but did not need to, one reason given for not returning empty or manned, was that it could not undock without being manned, the remote system did not work and needed someone to undock??
I'm sure they have with all the spy sats and the X-37b zoomin around. It would explain the way the world has gone down hill since we got to the space age. We discovered something grim?
Even if there is 1% chance the astronauts might make it back on "DeathRider" NASA, should not let them come back in that capsule. If I was in charge at NASA, now would I take that risk. I wouldn't care what Boeing said. A Government contact. IS NOT WORTH THE LIVES OF TWO GREAT ASTRONAUTS.😢😢
Considering the many Starliner issues, it should return uncrewed for the astronauts' safety.
Yeah
Uncrewed. If Boeing was not a military contractor with political power, Starliner would have been cancelled long ago.
Right 👍
100% agree.. SpaceX should easily be able to go get them.
I don’t care what the testing shows. There is no way we should risk these astronauts life in anything built by Boeing.
Exactly, we shouldn’t take risk if we can avoid it
As I recall, Starliner has already returned twice successfully. Boeing says the current Starliner is ready for a safe return. What am I missing?
@@JustAThought01 its Boeing, who can’t be trusted.
@JustAThought01 Evidently...the last two months.
@@Gary-oy1ji , please explain your statement. I have seen some of the reporting and I do not see a contradiction with my statement. I see an attempt to discredit Boeing. I see an incompetent NASA.. if there is additional material facts which have not been shared, I see a cover-up.
The thing that should finally happen is you stop clickbaiting
Viper would be a neat project for SpaceX
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NASA has shown so much caution with a crew on Starliner, it's a pretty good bet that Butch and Suni will return on Dragon, sometime much later than September.
They'll be 'trimming the Christmas tree' on ISS.
Yeah
I, as an astronaut, would tell NASA " screw this starliner". I'll wait for the next Space X.
The final decision should be up to its passengers! If it were me, I don’t think get aboard. Let it do a safe autonomous Re-entry on its on first.
What do you get when you cross Gilligan's Island with Lost in Space?
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this tropic port,
aboard this tiny ship.
The mate was a mighty sailin' man,
the Skipper brave and sure...
They do not even have a successful test mission how can they start scheduled missions, this is already a mission failure.
Let SpaceX do it
This is Negligent & a FRAUD !
Now Now it is perfect for ALL DEI hires
They haven’t scheduled any missions. Late 2025 is just the current target window. However, NASA has already contracted with Boeing to fly six missions, so it’s not going just throw that away.
If the crew safety was a concern they wouldn’t even consider bringing them back on that pile of junk. They sent them up there knowing they had a problem with it.
They haven’t learned their lessons from two previous catastrophic disasters with the shuttle. They knew they had problems with both of those but ignored good advice.
what are you talking about? this is total clickbait there isnt a return date yet
Yes, This is also FAKE News !!
It is incredible that they would risk the astronauts lives in this troubled spacecraft when there is NO reason to except saving Boeing's damaged reputation!
I this is the end of Congress sending money to Boeing, Boeing will stop sending (re)election 'contributions' to Congress. Sorry. Ain't happening. That money is needed to produce TV soundbites to convince low-informed voters that Congress is not corrupt.
@@henkvandenbergh1301 I wish that were true--I highly doubt it though...our money will continue to go down the boeing drain
Astronauts are expendable, like anybody else. We treat them no differently from the victims of mindless violence who die from idiots with guns. To be fair though, the idiots with guns are eclipsed by the idiots who allow them to own guns in the first place…….
I knew this would be nothing but click bait.
🤔🤔 Soooo an Outside person that will not be responsible for Fatal failure is giving advice to NASA ???… 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ This is a Clown World … or Twilight Zone episode .
They are coming back on Space X crewed ship. They are not going to risk it with crew with so much uncertainty on different things that are having issues with.
The Starliner has lost all credibility, Boeing should let the crew come home on SpaceX. It would destroy Boeing if something went wrong with Starliner with the crew on board.
The batteries on Starliner are near depleted by now. Originally Boeing said they had a 60 day window for the batteries, and have gone way past that best before date. This is very concerning, if they expect Butch and Suni to ride it back home.
The batteries on Starliner recharge from ISS power. The initial window was a certification limit for these particular batteries, and in-orbit performance has shown the batteries haven't really degraded. They're designed for 210 days on the station anyway.
No matter who the maker is we should NEVER put a human life in jeopardy especially if there is another safe option. NASA Haven’t we learned from the past?
Absolutely NASA don't want to gamble with two astronauts life. To save Boeing reputation, they probably will ask Russia to bring these two astronauts home instead of using SpaceX Dragon.
If I was one of the astronauts, I wouldn't ride that craft home.
This is a lie and clickbait. No date has been set.
This was my final straw. Getting tired of the false clickbaits. Yes, this is not an arport I dont need to anounce my departure {or un docking, heh) but Im unsubscribing. Cheers.
In-depth review of the current situation. Good sources, transparent, no BSing. Fresh and compact narrative. I like Kevin's style.
The fake ai voice studder was hilarious🤣
Max Headroom? :D
I though leaving it in was a nice touch 🤔
Why oh why do people publish over dramatic LIES in the headline? Scummy way to get clicks
If Starliner burns up, it will be more proof of Boeing's incompetence. The astronauts would be on a suicide ride.
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If I were one of the astronauts you couldn't get me to come back on Starliner.
or a boeing plane for that matter---you will never catch me on another boeing anything---
I don't know about everyone else, but why would we risk sending home human bodies and a machine that is absolutely broken it couldn't have even been moved for re-entry, let alone put two human bodies inside a broken machine and then send it through one of the roughest toughest parts of spacecraft re-entry that makes no sense whatsoever
Starliner is in better shape than the SS Columbia was known to be when they sent 7 astronauts to their doom. NASA is the most incompetent corporate welfare scam in the Government today. Starliner crewed risks 2 lives, (At a minimum, only one astronaut should be "risked.") unscrewed, and they could end up deorbiting the ISS in a spectacular fashion. Either way, the bean counters can claim a win.
Thank you for toning down the internet click-bait sensationalism. This was a very pleasant vid to watch.
Lets congratulate Soyuz and progress 89 for providing much needed fresh supplies to Starliner crew in the mission brief, Russia showing compassion to the US astronauts.
You mean delivering contracted goods ordered years ago? But yes, reliable spacecraft and nice to see one area where cooperation still exists.
@@greybuckleton Most important is Starliner crew Sunita Williams & Butch Wilmore now have comfort and supplies, thanks to Russia.
@@paulroberts7429 ok you've made your point. you can stop wetting yourself over it.
@@michaelfisher7170 Jealous sod, go and cry.
Don't risk the astronauts lives,it's not worth it, NASA and Boeing needs a clean out
Yes, hope that NASA will know what is most important
Thanks Kevin for keeping it real!
Good Morning, Kev. I don't think they will come home on Starliner. To much of a risk. To many eyes on it now. I don't think the Starliner system after sitting idle this long with all the flaws it already has is a safe bet. Bring them home on the Falcon 9 and end this saga. Good news for SpaceX. Seeing come home never gets old. I'm glad to see someone is trying to pick up Viper. Great Episode Kev. Have a Great Day.
Thanks Kevin, we also believe this
Boeing probably did the math and figured 2 humans lives were worth less than losing the NASA contracts.
Did we all hear the AI BREAK on the word…….Tentative
Not that our untrained opinions matter but if it were my choice I'd send the Starliner back uncrewed. If there's any question at all about the capsule's safety it's not worth the risk. Why use a doubtful vehicle when two reliable backups are available?
There is NO WAY the astronauts will return on that problem ridden Starliner. NO WAY
Undock uncrewed😮
This had problems on launch, problem getting to ISS, so how can we not expect problems coming home, if NASA and Boeing are smart, it will come back without crew.
I am going to say if I was the crew I would not want to come back on Starliner. I would prefer something that has not been broken down for weeks :).. Just me?
Me too
Could being in the cold vacume of space for the amount of time Dreamliner has ,have a negative effect on the operation of other critical systems? 6:20
It's designed for 210 days in orbit, so it shouldn't.
The short answer is yes.
If you are the two astronauts, are you getting in that thing to come home? Hell no. Send Space X to go get them safely.
With 5 thrusters malfunctioning, it’s not safe for astronauts to return on Junkliner.
Yes, this is too risky to try this
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I agree with you, but Boeing wants the crew to return in the starliner.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Really ? OH DEI Boeing DEI not the DEI crew
I predict it'll be uncrewed. I don't see NASA willing to accept the incremental risk given their history. Uncrewed return may be embarrassing for Boeing at worst.
Thats cool that Viper being saved, the US needs to be competitive as China.
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I pray that thing comes back uncrewed. I just don't trust that vehicle for Butch and Suni
My guess is …Starliner will remain in space and return when ISS is de-orbited. It is the only safe way to prevent ultimate failure costing Human life.
Bring it back without a crew. The crew is paramount.
When Starship becomes operational, everything else becomes obsolete. And it should: we're 1/4 of the way through the 21st century! Let's act like it.
Agree 👍
You know its a mess when it takes months to figure it out. Don't risk the crew.
Anything Boeing touches is an absolute hot mess. I’m in Jesus Christ. They were moving this thing down the road in a window popped out. Can you imagine how it’s gonna handle reentry
A protective cover popped off. Maybe a bit sloppy but certainly not a window
I'm one of the original designers of the Apollo LRVs, and IM would be idiots to take over this Viper project. First, it is only designed to last for three-Moon-days. Just look at the wheels, this thing cannot even traverse a 4-degree slope (or less), as based on the Mars Rovers, without slipping, and is so top-heavy that it will fall over on a 12+degree slope. The "craters" where there might be water, have steep volcanic ejecta sides, with much steeper angles. Then chances of this machine even getting halfway down, without tipping over, are virtually negligible. Also, since these craters are presumed to be "frozen solid", how will these mickey-mouse wheels even hold on solid rock, or frozen ice. Also there are only four wheels. You cannot take such a vehicle down crater walls, where there are 3D dissimilarities in the slopes. Any practical crawler will require a different chassis setup, and at least the usual 6-wheel bogie. We did crater-work in the 60s and 70s on this, and our vehicles were used to pull out two competing vehicles, after they became entrapped into "fake craters" which were created for this same purpose. That history is well known and has several books written about it. Making wheels which work on rocks is a major difficulty and the 4WD guys who go out into the mountains realize this. The Viper vehicle will only work on soft dirt and flattish surfaces, and the chances of it finding any Ice inside a crater is virtually negligible. Also how the heck is it going to send out the data, when the wimpy antenna is buried in a crater, without line-of-sight. NASA would need a polar orbiter around the Moon to get Comm. That is one of their plans, and also for Mars, but it "ain't" happening soon. Whoever signed off on this project needs to be removed.
Substitute with a cybertruck 😂🚀
They have in fact simulated and also physically tested this design (and it certainly won't fall over on a 12 degree slope).
Interesting. You sound like you know what you’re talking about., on the other hand, one assumes they would’ve thought of this
@@AmbientMorality Not with those wheels on rocks. These tests are always done on a soft surface (as we sometimes did) to simulate an average Moon surface. Our tests, going back to the 60's, show that this fails almost all of the time, with "non-conforming" wheels. That is why our LRV wheels are "soft", and actually conform to the rocks. Mars rovers also have this same problem. Not only are their wheels cracking (due to the glass-transition temperatures of the metals (and plastics) used, NASA is so scared to climb over anything bigger than a fist, that it selects basically sand/dust routes to get from point A to B. Viper will not be able to travel more than about a mile, if they try to travel it at 200-degrees-below-zero, in a crater. It will have to park somewhere, to await the next sunlight cycle. If that is the case, then there will be sunlight in that crater, and there will be no surface water anywhere. This design is total crap, and has absolutely no chance of finding any new data, that we already don't know about, from prior missions. What NASA needs desperately is a High-Definition Radar mapper, at down about 10-miles from the surface, to get accurate mapping of the projected actual landing site, and crater walls of where they are going to go in. OR land the lander INTO the crater, and hope there is a stable floor there (not likely). PassItOn.
I had no idea that an AI voice could stutter…
I hope Intuitive Machines can rescue the Viper mission. I don't think Anyone can rescue the Stuckliner.
Boeing Needs to figure out how to fly “IN” the atmosphere before it worries about flying above the atmosphere right now.
Amen
or perhaps the words should be RE-LEARN as they are currently WOKE F@CKED
I, for one, wouldn`t want to ride in Starliner back to earth ! ☹
Nothing finally happened
No return date announced. At best, informed speculation from third-party sources.
CLICK BAIT. Un-subscribed.
How do they undock a Starliner without a crew? I thought it didn't have that capability.
Software upgrade that is in process right now.
Starliner with crew.... toast. Establishment too proud to take a step back. SpaceX more chance to create an alive crew stepping out on earth.
I trust Boeing to return crew As much I as trust Disney to make new rides
NASA will never let the Astronauts at the ISS that had arrived on a Boeing Starliner to return on a Spacex capsule - as they are politically opposed to Spacex, and would keep them in space for another year before considering Spacex rescue them !
Dead Solid Perfect analysis, fren!
not no way not no how will gloho allow elon to rescue their _stranded_ #SpacePuppet 'astronauts'; gloho minds most likely interp is that elon is just like themselves, concerned solely w _power_ at any cost, even at cost of the lives of those two poor gloNASAho stranded #SpacePuppets.
imho... ;-)
NASA, who awarded SpaceX the HLS contract, the ISS deorbit vehicle contract, commercial crew contract, and literally saved the company with the CRS contract series, is clearly opposed to SpaceX
Boeing: I want my money back!
And NASA and Boeing will loudly proclaim the mission a brilliant success if/when those two souls make it back alive.
That crew would be very stupid to agree to ride that piece of crap through a reentry. If they agree to do it, I hate to say this, but, I believe they will be signing their own death warrant. Starliner is a a piece of crap and should never have been certified for human flight. NASA should be completely shut down except for a basic regulatory role, but their way to over-bureaucratic to be in the actual spaceflight business. Leave the actual spaceflight business to private companies like SpaceX. That is where the future of spaceflight resides.
NASA has no regulatory role. They're a science and engineering research agency. They develop rockets because there weren't commercial options historically, and I agree that more of that can become private as the commercial market grows. However, their science and exploration missions are extremely important and not something that can be replaced by private companies. NASA's engineering research and development is also extremely important.
@@AmbientMorality NASA shouldn't be anywhere near manned spaceflight. You have a much more positive view of NASA than I do. To me NASA is just an overbloated government bureaucracy. Also most of the research and development in the spaceflight industry is being done by SpaceX and other private companies. Its true most of them do use NASA test facilities because those facilities are first class, no doubt and that is fine. The private market could do what NASA does for much less money because most of them are not bloated bureaucracies thus they are able to respond to new technology and changes much faster than any government run operation like NASA can. NASA, like the Pentagon, is used as a piggy bank by members of Congress where as private companies are not because they're not controlled by Congress like NASA is.
@@jamesbrown5600 Hmm, two things. A major part of what NASA does is space science, and spaceflight is just a means to that end. Companies do have incentives for launch vehicle development, but a company isn't particularly likely to fund something like a space telescope or a mission to Europa.
Second, while companies do their own research and development, they base their work off of a lot that NASA and other agencies have done. You touched on that a bit with facilities, like with SpaceX's PICA-X development. PICA-X also was developed with NASA experts working alongside SpaceX and it of course built off a NASA-developed heat shield technology.
I think you can find NASA has financially supported research and development for nearly every space startup in the US, at least to some degree. They saved SpaceX in the early days!
I'm ignoring the aviation side of NASA a little here. I don't think either Airbus or Boeing would do anything innovative because it's just so risky and expensive, but I think there's a valid argument that the duopoly is a large component of that.
6 Sept. It is too risky to try to bring the crew down in it.
Why? People fly in disintegrating Boeing vehicles every day!
NASA must cut all work with Boeing just a waste of time and money
What nobody is saying is that Boeing is acting as a contractor, meaning they don't really do work unless they get a government contract. Why this matters is as SpaceX has demonstrated the development of man-rated spacecraft and related technologies takes years and decades, not a 5 year contract to build a specific capsule. And it doesn't help that Boeing has lost the corporate culture that's produced by people who won't cut corners on engineering.
As a SpaceX fan, on the one hand, I note how this just underscores SpaceX’s unique and unprecedented position in the private space industry. On the other hand, it would be better for the future of space exploration if we didn’t end up with all the eggs in one basket. I want to see other successful options available, and I hope Starliner can still be one.
I agree but Starliner’s toast. Brand forever tainted.
Apparently the Starliner was not configured for autonomous flight and it was estimated that it would take a week to reconfigure it!
That could have been done by now by Butch and/or Suni.
If I was NASA, getting the two astronauts back would be the priority. Getting Space X to send up a pair of suits for Butch and Suni either with a dedicated Dragon or as part of the scheduled crew mission.
This lets Boeing do more tests with the Starliner undocked and freeing up the airlock. Boeing can spend as long as they like doing tests as they bring Starliner back and the astronauts are certain to be returned safely.
A dedicated Dragon would be the more expensive option maybe, but would not affect the ISS scheduling which would surely save on extra costs there. They would also have the opportunity to send up replacement supplies for what Butch and Suni have been using extra on the ISS.
This also mean that Butch and Suni would be the first astronauts to have flown in both vehicles.
your analysis most perspicacious seems spot on, but for the complete lack of regard for the wholly solely political foundations of #ThisCurrentCrisis; wherein political consideratoins ovverride all other factors, imho...
worse comes to worst, pols will leave em there til after election, putting off til tomorrow what may cause unwanted attn on their other fails myriad even now collapsing around their ears, lol.
imho... ;-)
If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going!
Neither coming back
Splendid robot voice....
2:15 the tentative the tentative the tentative
2:17 the tentative return dates are set for...
LOL LOL LOL LOL
This was a pretty good video, Today... Try for another one. 👍🏻
Id this Stuckliner mission ever again should return with people on bord i think that the chance for that people to survive that very return is far below 50%.
More click bait, no real info lots of hype! Waste of time!
This is what happens when you build a space craft from leftover Boeing 737 MAX parts .
Me personally would never get back in that ship and go back home with it . NASA is treading dangerously by doing this
After the MAX 8, I won't get in anything built by Boeing.
Your microphone compression seems to be set too high. its crushing the latter half of some words. Thanks for the videos, I've been watching every one lately.
My guess is there will be another delay beyond Sept. 6.
Have Boeing pay SpaceX to send an extra mission to pick up the astronauts
Uber Space? Lyft Off?
You're kidding me. Both NASA and Boeing don't want to use SpaceX Dragon because of their big ego. Two astronauts will stay at ISS until next Boeing Starliner mission. When ?? whose know.
The uncrewed return will only happen if the autonomous software can be downloaded into the Starliner's computer. Otherwise, the spacecraft will present a danger of collision with the ISS.
I suspect this is not really true. They point it out all the time as a possibility, but given the assignment, SpaceX could easily develop a small "tug boat rocket" that would propel the capsule into a higher or lower orbit. Remember they are going to de-orbit the ISS in 2030 you only have to keep them apart for 6 years.
Boening just redesigned Starliner. Firstly to Stopliner and definitely to Neverliner.😊
😂😂😂
I like the name of failed project "Starliner". It sounds good but means nothing.
I go with option 3 ...... something else will go wrong with Crapliner and it can not undock = staying longer......
I seriously doubt if Starliner returns at all. Between NASA and Boeing neither of them has been honest about it.
Have they fixed the issues?? all the information Boeing released said Starliner could be run fully automated, the pilots could take control at any time, but did not need to, one reason given for not returning empty or manned, was that it could not undock without being manned, the remote system did not work and needed someone to undock??
I’m beginning to think Boeing and NASA are secretly running a Mars trip experiment, you know the One-way trips that are planned for Mars.
And they forgot to mention it to the two astronauts that thought they would be home by 4th of July.
If I was the crew I’d choose to wait till XSpace comes to the rescue, Boeing is very unsafe !!!
Good luck and Godspeed.
I hope the astronauts survive the re-entry if they return on StuckLeaker.
It sounds like Spacex needs to get the schematics so they can dock on the Russian hatches.
I think Starliner will undock unscrewed on September 6.
When are they going to try to get a view of the Black Knight satellite
I'm sure they have with all the spy sats and the X-37b zoomin around. It would explain the way the world has gone down hill since we got to the space age. We discovered something grim?
remember when the government was competent? like apollo 11
or Apollo 13?, Apollo ! or the
2 space shuttles lost?
Is it actually Starliner Max. Seems to be a common theme with Boeing.
Return
Undock uncrewed , crew dragon 🐉 to return crew! Send starliner on sunward trajectory!👋🏿🚀☀️💥
Even if there is 1% chance the astronauts might make it back on "DeathRider" NASA, should not let them come back in that capsule. If I was in charge at NASA, now would I take that risk. I wouldn't care what Boeing said. A Government contact. IS NOT WORTH THE LIVES OF TWO GREAT ASTRONAUTS.😢😢
just be sure that starliner wont land on our heads...
Wonder what the odds are in Vegas of them making it back ok?
Pretty unreasonable to put crew on this thing I think. Too much to lose and near nothing to gain.