I value your opinion, however @4:28 complaining it ‘should have been a touch screen because taking your hand completely off the handlebars to control the jog-dial isn’t safe’ is rather confusing because your hand will be coming off to use a touchscreen just the same.
Doesn’t matter where the positioning of the controls for the gauge are, anytime you take your eyes off the trail to look at a gauge is deadly. If you ask me you should set up your gauge before you start riding to however you want it and then don’t even touch in while riding. If you don’t like the way something is, wait til the next stop sign or road crossing to change it.
@@nsa6790 I agree brother but this is a Polaris channel anyway if you ask me. But there is no need to play with your gauges while riding. If you did it in a car it’s distractive driving and your fined.
@@nsa6790 LoL, You guys are funny. Go back a few years and look at the reviews we have done, you'll find that your not terribly educated on what Snowtrax crew tend to lean towards but hey everyones entitled to their own biased opinion, you included lol.
I will admit I didn't comment properly at that time, I meant to reference the fact that Polaris offers hand controls not the the touch screen there but at the end I figured I wouldn't go back and reshoot the whole thing, you absolutely correct through, I goofed up there. My apologies ~AJ
Heck yeah snowtrax is back baby! Also just a note on the ski doo gauge, when you launch BRP GO you have access to all of the trail maps as well as gas, restaurants, hotels, etc.
@@dirttraxtv Just checked the app and you are in fact correct. It covers most of Canada but unfortunately those in Ontario seem to be out of luck. Since it’s only been out for like a month I suspect that it will get better with age such as Polaris ride commands app did. Happy riding this year?
@@nsa6790 I did get a recent e-mail from the OFSC that says they didn't come to an agreement for this season so I guess this year it won't be supported in Ontario but hopefully next year and beyond. It's unfortunate for buyers of the gauge to not get support in certain areas, I mean apple maps are ok but not for sleds. Id take even slightly outdated maps over just road maps. ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv There are many holes too in trails from where I ride(northern Wisconsin and the UP) since I believe BRP was pulling info only from trail associations and clubs. It sucks that those in Ontario can’t have access to the actual trails only the road maps. Like I said before hopefully with age the maps only get better, and if they don’t well I’ll just use Polaris ride command or my memory from many years of riding!
I have the new Doo gauge, and I’d have to say that AJ is right in saying that the new Doo gauge is difficult to use. It’s not very friendly using. I’m more then likely never going to use this gauge for more then just sled data . That being said, the gauge is very nice looking BUT it definitely needs works and a tad bigger aswell.
Now that is a great response, It's AJ here and I appreciate your view on this. I agree its a good looking display, and I also agree with the rest of what you said. Very objective response, thanks for your comment. I love reading stuff like this from folks who actually own it and aren't just haters. Have a great winter! ~AJ
Kranky, that's nonsense! The only thing that needs work is the Doo display...like as in, scrap it all together and start over, copying Polaris. Doo dropped their balls big time on this one. Shame!!
Totally agree. I'm a 21 XRS owner and was kicking the tires on getting the new display last spring. After playing with it at the spring show I said no thanks. Even in that short a time it was clear it wasn't something I'd use. And trust me I'm a Ski doo guy and wanted to like it.
Skidoo guy here and have to say the Polaris ride command is a game changer, I just use the phone app. and for group rides it works amazing. My buddy can text me a waypoint and we can meet on the trail, seeing each other getting closer. Also for safety to know when everybody makes it back to their destination.
Tbh neither is a deal breaker and tbh most people will just get the stock gauge because it’s not worth it really. They are kinda expensive and how much better is it actually. Both are nice displays at the end of the day.
In my opinion Polaris will always be a step ahead of the game with electronics. When they came out with the PIDD gauge it was such a step that up everyone else would have to be pretty creative to think something up without copying it.
Great comparison AJ, still not sold on any of the new gauges, we spend so much time on our phones as it is, I use this time to unplug and enjoy the sport. But Polaris has the lead in my book..
I agree, I never use my phone with either gauge for music or phone calls. The sound of the sled is music to my ears! Time to unplug and enjoy the trails, however I do appreciate the maps and group ride, totally see your side of things though. ~AJ
Very informative. Im snowchecking a Polaris this spring and was not going to order this new screen. I might reconsider. Just have to say you guys do a great job.
BRP sure missed the mark with this gauge. How many of those knee knobs do you think you will see on a bumpy trail on a Sunday afternoon? That thing is getting busted off for sure!
Pumped to see Snowtrax back! I opted not to get the new skidoo gauge on my spring order and it looks like I made the right call. Swing and a miss on Skidoo’s part.
We will have some of that for you shortly, lots of good stuff coming your way with a full season of episodes, while COVID has been tough we are shooting for 13 full fresh shows for this season. ~AJ
polaris gauge is awesome. once they make it so you can import commercial map options it will be complete as ride command has some gaps in mapping that other services don't
A word of caution to those who may be using Ride Command and BRP Go in Ontario this year. I have worked with Ride Command in the past. Polaris has a version of the OFSC Base Map that is roughly 20 years old and is relying on local "trail managers" to update it. I know that in Sudbury there are trails listed that haven't been used in a decade, and riders could be surprised to wind up on an unhappy landowner's lawn, or some kind of hazard. Hopefully BRP GO and Ride Command can reach terms with the OFSC to include up to date data in the future, but that hasn't happened yet. The only official source of trail data right now in Ontario are the OFSC Interactive Trail Guide or a current version of Track Maps.
They aren't the latest for sure on the Polaris gauge however we have had great success using the Polaris version both this generation and the last with the maps provided. Perfect, no, but very good from what we have experienced. I do hope they can all work with the Federations/states to get the latest in the future but it's better than nothing and seems to be pretty good overall where we have used it. ~AJ
Didn’t You guys already rip the ski doo gauge in the spring. It’s may not be as good as Polaris but when ski doo rolls out the next Generation Which I don’t think is to far off I’m sure it will be improved greatly.
This is the first year for this gauge, we mentioned it in the spring when luke went to Club Ski-Doo, but this is our first "Production" versions of it. Not ripping it, just pointing out what it is, and what it isn't as we have had lots of questions about both of them. ~AJ
Sure it will, skidoo is great at improving things year after year. But, polaris will be upgrading theirs in the future with new tech as well im sure. These are both first generation gauges. Polaris nailed it, skidoo missed the mark a bit.
@@pavmentsurfer13 No your right Polaris did nail it. I don’t know if it was a shakedown video or a trade show video you guys showed your displeasure with it. In all reality your not going to be setting it up while riding anyway. As far as the channel I enjoy it it’s a great platform and you guys do give us your honest views and it is up to us the consumer to buy whatever, but it does seem Polaris is in the forefront a little more than the other manufacturers. At the end of the day everybody got a preference and you always enjoy one more than the other.
I miss when snowmobiling was about snowmobiling and a tach was the only thing standard and the speedometer was optional.....keep your tech and knock $4k off the price tag.
Besides better engine performance I truly believe you echo the feeling of a lot of sledders. Tech for those who want it, price for those who don't. Unfortunately I think like everything else in the world it's going heavier to the tech side. ~AJ
this was a very helpful video, i currently own a 2020 Riot, and am not impressed with their outdated display. i was wondering with the skidoo, since you have to have your phone connected to it for the apps, does that mean as soon as you loose cell service, you loose your maps as well? i also dont like the idea of having to have your phone hooked up to it to work. the polaris outshines skidoo on this one for sure. even with the data available, and dont forget the new heated grip software! thats awesome! great video! keep up the good work.
Very cool but no matter the brand and how well it is executed, will it be supported in 5 or 10 years. I lean towards not so will continue to use my phone for mapping/navigation which is 90% of my need for tech.
Very good overview. Thanks. I can see Ski doo making major changes to that gauge in the very near future. Polaris seems to have got it all right this time.
Yes, we all believe that. Skidoo will scrap entirely their gauge and start anew. What were they thinking, when they designed that P.O.Skidoo technology? Going to be very hard for the folks at Skidoo to beat this Polaris gauge. But being *second place* is becoming *common place* over there...
Ski-doo is certainly behind but I really don't see the need for a touch screen here unless you don't ride with gloves which is very rare. The best options is definitely the navigation buttons on the handlebar, I don't understand the design reason for Ski-doo to add that joystick on the side.
We agree with you, the handlebar control is the hot ticket. I think the touch screen is easier for when you're stopped to get access quickly, but the jog dial is there too loo. I guess they just figured they would give you it all. Polaris did buy TrailTech gauge company, so they have some really nice stuff available to them now ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv Good point, handlebar control + touchscreen seems like the way to go. That's one issue though, the other issue is that the current trail GPS apps are really not good. BRP Go! does not have the Ontario trails and I am not even sure it could display their status. I hope BRP and Polaris collaborate with provinces/states to integrate snowmobile trail data in their app.
@@geehe Getting the latest up to date maps would be ideal for sure, we have found the Polaris maps to be pretty good but no not flawless. Hopefully they can all work with the regional federations/states to get the maps updated year to year ~AJ
Was sad to see the new Doo guage after I got my 850. Not now... now I'm very thankful I didn't waste my $$ on that guage! Thankfully Doo spends their time building better sleds.
@@kyledejong8816 Really? We just got a new matryx and the build quality is top notch. We have a indy 600 and have had no problems. Don't give Doo guys a bad look.
This 7S display is the sole reason I decided to switch brands. I will be on an Assault this winter. I ride with my sons. They are 23 and 19, and we all know how dumb us guys are at those ages! LOL! Being able to glance down and see their location, speed, etc….that is huge for me. I damn near lost them in between Wawa and Halfway Haven a few years ago. Shame on me in that situation, but this tech, if it works as advertised, is a game changer for me and my boys. Not having to take my phone out of my jacket at every intersection that I am not familiar with…that also is huge. Some of the other features are nice I am sure, but those 2 issues??? Sold.
I personally still like old school analog gauges, like on my ‘19 blizzard, but like you said tech is here to stay, I bought the new Mach Z and do like the way the gauge looks , definitely could have been slightly bigger or just slightly bigger fonts on some of the numbers, it is a little frustrating having to relaunch the app after every break on the side of the trail, my biggest complaint is you offer this on a high performance turbo sled and I can’t pull up a digital boost gauge on the screen …
Hey Tim, great suggestion, I think I will do something on just that! Let me see what I can come up with for ya, Thanks for watching and for your suggestion ~AJ
Should be noted the Polaris maps are way outdated. They definitely have the better system, but don't give too much credit. In some areas trails that have been closed for 20 years still show up. I'm curious if either gauge when paired to a phone will show the various federations mapping apps. If so this would be much better than the OEM's trying to re-create systems the provincial and state organizations have already created and that they actually maintain as trail changes occur.
I guess an apple car play type gauge could be pretty cool if it would accurately play your apps. Right now the Polaris maps are really good for the areas in Canada and the USA where we have used them. Sure sometimes we see a trail closed but never been stranded because of it. I do agree it would be best to get Federation/State maps for all these gauges but right now I'll take a slight outdated map over road maps that really aren't helpful at all ~AJ
AJ.. So if you have an older machine that doesn't have any Hi Tech,(analog), can you purchase the 7s as a separate unit? Tie it in to your older machine?
Seeing that done with a glove on would have been helpful from a functional use standpoint. And did I miss, is a subscription required for the Polaris trail maps?
Charles is right, no subscription at all and your right I should have put a glove on, sorry about that. I'll see if I can do something like that in the next little bit. ~AJ
My understanding is the Polaris 7s display is only on the snow checked 2021 models. They sell a 7s upgrade for the launch edition which would cost $1,400 plus labor.
Great to see ST back! Can only watch the ST channel videos so many times. I'm a Ski-doo guy but that 7S looks like the winner. I always use the Ride Command & OFSC app on my cell. If my cell is connected can I view Ride Command or OFSC on the BRP display?
Unfortunately only the BRP Go map or your Apple/Google map system will work from your phone. Until BRP reaches agreements with the specific regions they won't have trail maps. However I do understand there are many supported areas, unfortunately not our region we ride in most through. ~AJ
You guys well know BRP GO is the app within BRP Connect for navigation and never once make mention of it, didn’t even download it and never showed it to consumers.
Funny, I actually just found out you need the second app to bring up BRP's maps...... so now I need a second app which for my riding area does absolutely nothing more than apple maps....... so you you were correct that there is a second app to download and launch. I get that certain areas have trail maps where BRP was able to work a deal, but for many there is also no trail maps at all..... ~AJ
7s gets a 9 out of 10 Skidoos offering a 4 out of 10. Excellent breakdown of these products. That screen system has me looking away from the Skidoo and wanting a Polaris. I'm really interested in what Skidoo will do to even the tech divide here.
Well, once they finish licking their wounds and stop crying, they may have to ask Polaris for design assistance and pay for copyright infringe. Which means a very similar gauge system will be available on a skidoo. But Skidoo will have to charge more to make up for previous losses in sales. Either way...skidoo is being buried by this mistake. It's embarrassing. Congratulations to Polaris...true innovators...true winners! 💪👍👏👏👏
The map function on the Polaris, and the ability to see where your buddies are at, is pretty cool. I've used the Polaris Ride Command cell phone app and it's pretty awesome. No more paper trail maps or lost riders. All of the other functionality described on either sled's screen has about zero value. If you're playing with your screen, listening to music, or taking phone calls while out riding you're missing the point.
LoL, yeah taking phone calls while sledding is a bit strange to me, and the boss can hear the sound of a two stroke when you tell him your home sick lol~AJ
Out of the purpose of safety they need to make an industry standard for these to communicate location no matter the brand. My 2022 Lynx Boondocker was just old of enough not to get one of the new displays. I got a Garmin Tread that I mounted just below my gauge. If I'm riding with buddies that have one also we can connect like the new displays.
The screen was the game changer for me...was on fence last year between Skidoo and Polaris. I simply can't buy a Skidoo now until they upgrade their displays.
That's a great computer , but my Top Priority in a sled is Direct fuel injection and a 4 roller clutch .. I guess I will have to give up the fancy apps..
Dirt Trax TV Thanks for getting back to me videos I've been watching non say Polaris shows ambient temp. But it does. FYI still waiting for my snow check VR1 here in CT. I talked to my dealer he's telling me the VR1's that he received do not have front shocks on them. Some kind of back order problem. Approximately two after delivery he's telling me the shocks should show up. This is my first Polaris snow check very excited for this new chassis and 7s display. Cheers
I like the new technology. But, Ski-doo miss the boat here. Polaris is way ahead on this category, especially for a large screen for trail maps. My thought is, does Polaris take a SD Micro card so I can add local as well as state trails? I'm currently upgrading my Garmin to a Zumo set up so I will have all local trails, State plus roadway information. A very bright screen for direct sunlight. I like the old school gauges and they will be missed over the years. As pretty as a LCD screen may be, when I am riding, I am not admiring it. I just glance. My current 800 GSX, do to my age, I have to pull over to look at the current screen to see what changes I am making. SO when I can make changes via a knob or on the handle bars its not a deal breaker for me at all. Plus why would you be focusing on a screen making changes and riding at the same time. That's is the same thing as texting and driving but worse. A tree will always win in a collision.
On the Polaris 7S, you can load in your own GPX tracks from a USB drive, or you can use the Ride Command website and upload them. You can then log into your account right on the 7S display and sync them down.
I’m definitely not anti-Polaris; however, I have been loyal to SkiDoo. I don’t buy sleds for gages, and the minimalist gage on my 2019 FreeRide suits the purpose just fine. I like the redundancy of a gage, cellphone, and Garmin Montana. That being said, the new Doo gage is a fail compared with Polaris’ in my opinion. I don’t care for the wide format, dependency on the phone, and clunky functionality. I think that while Skidoo’s overall offering is fantastic, Polaris is doing a great job at listening to what their customers want.
Actually the Polaris version works really well even at super low temps, the previous version stood up to it, it was a much slower responding gauge but we never had a failure even down to -40 plus windchill on top of that. ~AJ
These new gauge's were not meant to use as you ride along other than for speed obviously on either sled if making adjustments I would come to a complete stop that is just common sense. The Ski doo is more like a android and Polaris is Apple lol the ski doo gauge will be come very intuitive after you get use to it. Polaris is easier do to the touchscreen both are cool though and leaps ahead of the older gauges. I do believe that you could use the ofsc app on the ski doo Gauge I hope so anyhow
I’d prefer the Polaris 7s. I bought a new Ski doo for other reasons. I have a garmin gps and the Polaris ride command on my phone. In my opinion there’s no need for these screens. I get it everyone wants the latest and greatest electronics but at what cost? Electronics have made pricing in everything sky rocket.
@@pavmentsurfer13right and I am a big fan of the standard Polaris screen that is on my sportsman. I have yet to play with the one on my ski doo since Wisconsin is lacking in snow this year so far. Pray for snow!!!
Omg the skidoo one sucks for reconnecting after a timeout. So after 3 hours of riding you now have burnt in screen on your phone for leaving it on the whole time.
I just switched from Doo to Polaris for 2022....this 7S gauge was the final deciding factor. Doo you TOTALLY missed the boat, not sure who the Team lead is on this, but your losing riders to Polaris!!
Your correct it's two screens, in day mode it's quite obvious, it looks much cleaner in night mode (As we shot it) as you can't see the space between the screens. ~AJ
You Polaris fanb......just kidding. Love doo ride doo, bought the doo gauge and I'm face palm watching this comparison. Not a doo fan in the world would say poo didn't knock this one out of the park
Well in the world of snowmobiling they really have all taken from each other at one time or another. Heck the slide rail suspension all sleds are built off today is taken from Arctic Cat. Lots of give and take from all 4 brands ~AJ
Actually we were just talking about how Arctic and Yamaha could get together with the system from the Yamaha side by sides that use Magellan( I believe thats the brand) Could be a cool step up for them. ~AJ
Its cool and all but geez,to me this is a timebomb,watch the accidents rate go up,same as cars,people too busy screwing around a gauge while riding instead of focusing on trail conditions,plus you have to pay more,again,,sorry for the rant,just my thought
Stop trying to sell Snowmobiles with Gadgets. No wonder the industry is in decline. 90% of Canadians Now make less then 28 grand a year. Target that market. With low tech stuff. Like an Analog gauge set. (saving money on new Machines). Our Industry is going to disappear if something drastic isn't changed.
The skidoo gauge is terrible. Not intuitive. Clunky 1990's technology. Useless with out a phone . Does not connect to all bluetooth speakers. This needs so much work they should just go back to the drawing board. Feel like I got ripped off completely.
There is no comparison. Ski doo is total garbage. The entire screen is so small. Long and very narrow. Very small numbers. Almost dangerous to try to read while driving. Shame on you brp.
I value your opinion, however @4:28 complaining it ‘should have been a touch screen because taking your hand completely off the handlebars to control the jog-dial isn’t safe’ is rather confusing because your hand will be coming off to use a touchscreen just the same.
Doesn’t matter where the positioning of the controls for the gauge are, anytime you take your eyes off the trail to look at a gauge is deadly. If you ask me you should set up your gauge before you start riding to however you want it and then don’t even touch in while riding. If you don’t like the way something is, wait til the next stop sign or road crossing to change it.
I did react to that too but the Polaris has controls on the handlebars which changed my mind.
@@nsa6790 I agree brother but this is a Polaris channel anyway if you ask me. But there is no need to play with your gauges while riding. If you did it in a car it’s distractive driving and your fined.
@@nsa6790 LoL, You guys are funny. Go back a few years and look at the reviews we have done, you'll find that your not terribly educated on what Snowtrax crew tend to lean towards but hey everyones entitled to their own biased opinion, you included lol.
I will admit I didn't comment properly at that time, I meant to reference the fact that Polaris offers hand controls not the the touch screen there but at the end I figured I wouldn't go back and reshoot the whole thing, you absolutely correct through, I goofed up there. My apologies ~AJ
Heck yeah snowtrax is back baby! Also just a note on the ski doo gauge, when you launch BRP GO you have access to all of the trail maps as well as gas, restaurants, hotels, etc.
LoL Glad you're excited for the return. I think then access to trail maps is regional on the BRP gauge as here in Ontario we seem to be out of luck.
@@dirttraxtv Just checked the app and you are in fact correct. It covers most of Canada but unfortunately those in Ontario seem to be out of luck. Since it’s only been out for like a month I suspect that it will get better with age such as Polaris ride commands app did. Happy riding this year?
@@nsa6790 I did get a recent e-mail from the OFSC that says they didn't come to an agreement for this season so I guess this year it won't be supported in Ontario but hopefully next year and beyond. It's unfortunate for buyers of the gauge to not get support in certain areas, I mean apple maps are ok but not for sleds. Id take even slightly outdated maps over just road maps. ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv There are many holes too in trails from where I ride(northern Wisconsin and the UP) since I believe BRP was pulling info only from trail associations and clubs. It sucks that those in Ontario can’t have access to the actual trails only the road maps. Like I said before hopefully with age the maps only get better, and if they don’t well I’ll just use Polaris ride command or my memory from many years of riding!
Forget trails. In the mountains without defined trails is where this display really becomes useful in locating your friends and their status.
I have the new Doo gauge, and I’d have to say that AJ is right in saying that the new Doo gauge is difficult to use. It’s not very friendly using.
I’m more then likely never going to use this gauge for more then just sled data .
That being said, the gauge is very nice looking BUT it definitely needs works and a tad bigger aswell.
Now that is a great response, It's AJ here and I appreciate your view on this. I agree its a good looking display, and I also agree with the rest of what you said. Very objective response, thanks for your comment. I love reading stuff like this from folks who actually own it and aren't just haters. Have a great winter! ~AJ
Kranky, that's nonsense! The only thing that needs work is the Doo display...like as in, scrap it all together and start over, copying Polaris. Doo dropped their balls big time on this one. Shame!!
Ski-doo is WAY behind the curve on this one..... they need to get with GARMIN and get a real GPS..... Polaris is 1000X better.
I am ski doo all the way but wtf skidoo it’s like comparing a flip phone to the latest iPhone.
Hats off to you Polaris on this one
Totally agree. I'm a 21 XRS owner and was kicking the tires on getting the new display last spring. After playing with it at the spring show I said no thanks. Even in that short a time it was clear it wasn't something I'd use. And trust me I'm a Ski doo guy and wanted to like it.
7S is the winner this year
Skidoo guy here and have to say the Polaris ride command is a game changer, I just use the phone app. and for group rides it works amazing. My buddy can text me a waypoint and we can meet on the trail, seeing each other getting closer. Also for safety to know when everybody makes it back to their destination.
Watched this twice...Polaris has an impressive peice of tech...Skidoo needs this same tech.
Great review AJ.
Thank you!
Glad you guys are back to making content for the year!
Thanks, we are excited to get back into the sleds! Even though I am commenting from Dirttrax lol. Thanks for watching our stuff, we appreciate it. ~AJ
Great stuff. Good to see technolgy finding its way on to sleds. Kudos to the manufacturers.
Yes ! It's snowing in Minnesota and Snowtrax has new content.... the beginning of 2020/2021 season it here.
Tbh neither is a deal breaker and tbh most people will just get the stock gauge because it’s not worth it really. They are kinda expensive and how much better is it actually. Both are nice displays at the end of the day.
In my opinion Polaris will always be a step ahead of the game with electronics. When they came out with the PIDD gauge it was such a step that up everyone else would have to be pretty creative to think something up without copying it.
I debated a XRS but I just didn’t like the fact I had to have my phone connected and this app. The 7s is hands down more user friendly.
I'm with you ~AJ
Great comparison AJ, still not sold on any of the new gauges, we spend so much time on our phones as it is, I use this time to unplug and enjoy the sport. But Polaris has the lead in my book..
I agree, I never use my phone with either gauge for music or phone calls. The sound of the sled is music to my ears! Time to unplug and enjoy the trails, however I do appreciate the maps and group ride, totally see your side of things though. ~AJ
Right on
Agreed.
Very informative. Im snowchecking a Polaris this spring and was not going to order this new screen. I might reconsider.
Just have to say you guys do a great job.
BRP sure missed the mark with this gauge. How many of those knee knobs do you think you will see on a bumpy trail on a Sunday afternoon? That thing is getting busted off for sure!
We have been wondering about them getting broken as well, I guess we will see..... Knee Knob, think we are gonna have to use that one :-) ~AJ
It also looks like rain and ice will freeze that dial up in no time with that large groove surrounding it. Terrible idea.
I am totally a Ski doo guy but this Polaris is impressive!!
Well if you are trail riding and your knee is up that high you got bigger issues to worry about.
Huh?
Can you guys do a attachment guide for older sleds 00’ to 08’
In my opinion, both guages are great and have there ups and downs, I have rode sleds with both guages
Pumped to see Snowtrax back! I opted not to get the new skidoo gauge on my spring order and it looks like I made the right call. Swing and a miss on Skidoo’s part.
Glad to be back! Thanks for watching our stuff! We will have lots more for ya shortly ~AJ
Hoping for some videos on the sleds you’ll riding this winter. Head to head comparisons etc like you did last year.
We will have some of that for you shortly, lots of good stuff coming your way with a full season of episodes, while COVID has been tough we are shooting for 13 full fresh shows for this season. ~AJ
polaris gauge is awesome. once they make it so you can import commercial map options it will be complete as ride command has some gaps in mapping that other services don't
The brp go app has a map with trails
I love that 7S display!
A word of caution to those who may be using Ride Command and BRP Go in Ontario this year. I have worked with Ride Command in the past. Polaris has a version of the OFSC Base Map that is roughly 20 years old and is relying on local "trail managers" to update it. I know that in Sudbury there are trails listed that haven't been used in a decade, and riders could be surprised to wind up on an unhappy landowner's lawn, or some kind of hazard. Hopefully BRP GO and Ride Command can reach terms with the OFSC to include up to date data in the future, but that hasn't happened yet. The only official source of trail data right now in Ontario are the OFSC Interactive Trail Guide or a current version of Track Maps.
They aren't the latest for sure on the Polaris gauge however we have had great success using the Polaris version both this generation and the last with the maps provided. Perfect, no, but very good from what we have experienced. I do hope they can all work with the Federations/states to get the latest in the future but it's better than nothing and seems to be pretty good overall where we have used it. ~AJ
Thanks AJ! Either of these gauges are miles better than the Etch-A-Sketch screen on my '20 Extreme.
@@JB101inc LoL can't argue with you there! ~AJ
Didn’t You guys already rip the ski doo gauge in the spring. It’s may not be as good as Polaris but when ski doo rolls out the next Generation Which I don’t think is to far off I’m sure it will be improved greatly.
This is the first year for this gauge, we mentioned it in the spring when luke went to Club Ski-Doo, but this is our first "Production" versions of it. Not ripping it, just pointing out what it is, and what it isn't as we have had lots of questions about both of them. ~AJ
Sure it will, skidoo is great at improving things year after year. But, polaris will be upgrading theirs in the future with new tech as well im sure. These are both first generation gauges. Polaris nailed it, skidoo missed the mark a bit.
@@pavmentsurfer13 No your right Polaris did nail it. I don’t know if it was a shakedown video or a trade show video you guys showed your displeasure with it. In all reality your not going to be setting it up while riding anyway. As far as the channel I enjoy it it’s a great platform and you guys do give us your honest views and it is up to us the consumer to buy whatever, but it does seem Polaris is in the forefront a little more than the other manufacturers. At the end of the day everybody got a preference and you always enjoy one more than the other.
I miss when snowmobiling was about snowmobiling and a tach was the only thing standard and the speedometer was optional.....keep your tech and knock $4k off the price tag.
Besides better engine performance I truly believe you echo the feeling of a lot of sledders. Tech for those who want it, price for those who don't. Unfortunately I think like everything else in the world it's going heavier to the tech side. ~AJ
this was a very helpful video, i currently own a 2020 Riot, and am not impressed with their outdated display. i was wondering with the skidoo, since you have to have your phone connected to it for the apps, does that mean as soon as you loose cell service, you loose your maps as well? i also dont like the idea of having to have your phone hooked up to it to work. the polaris outshines skidoo on this one for sure. even with the data available, and dont forget the new heated grip software! thats awesome! great video! keep up the good work.
Very cool but no matter the brand and how well it is executed, will it be supported in 5 or 10 years. I lean towards not so will continue to use my phone for mapping/navigation which is 90% of my need for tech.
Good question, I guess only time will tell that one ~AJ
Fingers crossed for a great snowmobile season. Merry Christmas and Cheers all!
Bring on the snow! We can't wait to get out and ride, Have a great Christmas~AJ
love it great video bring on the new stuff keeping up with the times
Thanks, we appreciate you taking the time to watch our stuff ~AJ
More to come!
Very well explained and easy to follow. Thanks
Very good overview. Thanks. I can see Ski doo making major changes to that gauge in the very near future. Polaris seems to have got it all right this time.
Yes, we all believe that. Skidoo will scrap entirely their gauge and start anew. What were they thinking, when they designed that P.O.Skidoo technology? Going to be very hard for the folks at Skidoo to beat this Polaris gauge. But being *second place* is becoming *common place* over there...
Polaris really set the bar high with that gauge and the Matryx package
Wow that Polaris gauge is impressive. Wish my Yamaha had this.
That’s weird I just bought a 2021 two weeks ago and I have no problems with my sled automatically hooking up
Yeah Polaris did something very inovative with their new display. I must only respect them for that.
Hey give credit where credit is due right. Thanks for watching ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv thanks for making awesome content!
@@EmilForsberg_GRYBO Thanks for taking the time to watch our content, we appreciate everyone who tunes in. Have a great winter! ~AJ
I wish I could put this gauge on my 2020 XCR SB, at least I ordered a VR1 so can enjoy on 1 sled.
Ski-doo is certainly behind but I really don't see the need for a touch screen here unless you don't ride with gloves which is very rare. The best options is definitely the navigation buttons on the handlebar, I don't understand the design reason for Ski-doo to add that joystick on the side.
We agree with you, the handlebar control is the hot ticket. I think the touch screen is easier for when you're stopped to get access quickly, but the jog dial is there too loo. I guess they just figured they would give you it all. Polaris did buy TrailTech gauge company, so they have some really nice stuff available to them now ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv Good point, handlebar control + touchscreen seems like the way to go. That's one issue though, the other issue is that the current trail GPS apps are really not good. BRP Go! does not have the Ontario trails and I am not even sure it could display their status. I hope BRP and Polaris collaborate with provinces/states to integrate snowmobile trail data in their app.
@@geehe Getting the latest up to date maps would be ideal for sure, we have found the Polaris maps to be pretty good but no not flawless. Hopefully they can all work with the regional federations/states to get the maps updated year to year ~AJ
Was sad to see the new Doo guage after I got my 850. Not now... now I'm very thankful I didn't waste my $$ on that guage! Thankfully Doo spends their time building better sleds.
@@kyledejong8816 Really? We just got a new matryx and the build quality is top notch. We have a indy 600 and have had no problems. Don't give Doo guys a bad look.
This 7S display is the sole reason I decided to switch brands. I will be on an Assault this winter. I ride with my sons. They are 23 and 19, and we all know how dumb us guys are at those ages! LOL! Being able to glance down and see their location, speed, etc….that is huge for me. I damn near lost them in between Wawa and Halfway Haven a few years ago. Shame on me in that situation, but this tech, if it works as advertised, is a game changer for me and my boys.
Not having to take my phone out of my jacket at every intersection that I am not familiar with…that also is huge. Some of the other features are nice I am sure, but those 2 issues??? Sold.
I'm looking forward to messing around with the 7S on my assault, but polaris hasn't built it yet, going into the season without a sled😑
No Assault yet? We have ours but we are waiting on a few others to show up as well. Hopefully soon! ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv hasn't even shipped yet and the snow is starting to fall...
Will the PIDD do ride command group rides also?
The skidoo controls are built by grayhill. it’s mostly a rugged canbus hmi built for vehicles.
I personally still like old school analog gauges, like on my ‘19 blizzard, but like you said tech is here to stay, I bought the new Mach Z and do like the way the gauge looks , definitely could have been slightly bigger or just slightly bigger fonts on some of the numbers, it is a little frustrating having to relaunch the app after every break on the side of the trail, my biggest complaint is you offer this on a high performance turbo sled and I can’t pull up a digital boost gauge on the screen …
Excellent video A J very informative like to know more about the velocity shocks.tks
Hey Tim, great suggestion, I think I will do something on just that! Let me see what I can come up with for ya, Thanks for watching and for your suggestion ~AJ
I would love to see you guys get to test a Backcountry Sport
Should be noted the Polaris maps are way outdated. They definitely have the better system, but don't give too much credit. In some areas trails that have been closed for 20 years still show up. I'm curious if either gauge when paired to a phone will show the various federations mapping apps. If so this would be much better than the OEM's trying to re-create systems the provincial and state organizations have already created and that they actually maintain as trail changes occur.
I guess an apple car play type gauge could be pretty cool if it would accurately play your apps. Right now the Polaris maps are really good for the areas in Canada and the USA where we have used them. Sure sometimes we see a trail closed but never been stranded because of it. I do agree it would be best to get Federation/State maps for all these gauges but right now I'll take a slight outdated map over road maps that really aren't helpful at all ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv Agreed. Hopefully they get this figured out soon with each province and state. It shouldn't be too hard to accomplish.
Even if it is a touch screen, your hand has to come off the handle bars regardless. Not sure what your point was for that?
Yeah I replied to folks a while ago on here about that mistake, I meant to say you can use the hand controls but I goofed up. ~AJ
AJ..
So if you have an older machine that doesn't have any Hi Tech,(analog), can you purchase the 7s as a separate unit? Tie it in to your older machine?
I wish, but no it's only available as a factory option from what I understand. Could be a cool option for them to offer as an accessory though. ~AJ
Seeing that done with a glove on would have been helpful from a functional use standpoint. And did I miss, is a subscription required for the Polaris trail maps?
Charles is right, no subscription at all and your right I should have put a glove on, sorry about that. I'll see if I can do something like that in the next little bit. ~AJ
My understanding is the Polaris 7s display is only on the snow checked 2021 models. They sell a 7s upgrade for the launch edition which would cost $1,400 plus labor.
Thanks for the heads up, I knew about spring check but didn't realize a dealer could offer it as an option on the launch edition. ~AJ
Great to see ST back! Can only watch the ST channel videos so many times. I'm a Ski-doo guy but that 7S looks like the winner. I always use the Ride Command & OFSC app on my cell. If my cell is connected can I view Ride Command or OFSC on the BRP display?
Unfortunately only the BRP Go map or your Apple/Google map system will work from your phone. Until BRP reaches agreements with the specific regions they won't have trail maps. However I do understand there are many supported areas, unfortunately not our region we ride in most through. ~AJ
You guys well know BRP GO is the app within BRP Connect for navigation and never once make mention of it, didn’t even download it and never showed it to consumers.
Funny, I actually just found out you need the second app to bring up BRP's maps...... so now I need a second app which for my riding area does absolutely nothing more than apple maps....... so you you were correct that there is a second app to download and launch. I get that certain areas have trail maps where BRP was able to work a deal, but for many there is also no trail maps at all..... ~AJ
Nice comparison and super helpful
Glad you enjoyed, thank for watching Raymond ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv you guys are the beat keep it up.
I don't want a polaris, but I want that guage
7s gets a 9 out of 10
Skidoos offering a 4 out of 10.
Excellent breakdown of these products.
That screen system has me looking away from the Skidoo and wanting a Polaris.
I'm really interested in what Skidoo will do to even the tech divide here.
Well, once they finish licking their wounds and stop crying, they may have to ask Polaris for design assistance and pay for copyright infringe. Which means a very similar gauge system will be available on a skidoo. But Skidoo will have to charge more to make up for previous losses in sales. Either way...skidoo is being buried by this mistake. It's embarrassing.
Congratulations to Polaris...true innovators...true winners! 💪👍👏👏👏
The map function on the Polaris, and the ability to see where your buddies are at, is pretty cool. I've used the Polaris Ride Command cell phone app and it's pretty awesome. No more paper trail maps or lost riders.
All of the other functionality described on either sled's screen has about zero value. If you're playing with your screen, listening to music, or taking phone calls while out riding you're missing the point.
LoL, yeah taking phone calls while sledding is a bit strange to me, and the boss can hear the sound of a two stroke when you tell him your home sick lol~AJ
@@dirttraxtv LOL. *Ring Ring*- you- BBBRRRAPPP "Hey boss, I'm Feeling kind'a" BBBRRRAPPPP "sick, can't come in today" BBRRRAPPP!!! Boss-"hey, I can't hear you!" BBRRRAPPP!! you- "I SAID I'M SICK!!"" BBRRAPPP
Out of the purpose of safety they need to make an industry standard for these to communicate location no matter the brand.
My 2022 Lynx Boondocker was just old of enough not to get one of the new displays. I got a Garmin Tread that I mounted just below my gauge. If I'm riding with buddies that have one also we can connect like the new displays.
Does it have speakers?
Hands down polaris! Kick arse gauge
The screen was the game changer for me...was on fence last year between Skidoo and Polaris.
I simply can't buy a Skidoo now until they upgrade their displays.
That's a great computer , but my Top Priority in a sled is Direct fuel injection and a 4 roller clutch .. I guess I will have to give up the fancy apps..
I agree about this technology and its usefulness as long as it wont cause me to get stuck in middle of nowhere whennit fails.
Awesome video, again.
Does the Polaris show ambient temperature
It does, you can select all that stuff and arrange the widget orb things in the settings but it has C/F ambient. ~AJ
Dirt Trax TV
Thanks for getting back to me videos I've been watching non say Polaris shows
ambient temp. But it does. FYI still waiting for my snow check VR1 here in CT. I talked to my dealer he's telling me the VR1's that he received do not have front shocks on them. Some kind of back order problem. Approximately two after delivery he's telling me the shocks should show up. This is my first Polaris snow check very excited for this new chassis and 7s display. Cheers
I like the new technology. But, Ski-doo miss the boat here. Polaris is way ahead on this category, especially for a large screen for trail maps. My thought is, does Polaris take a SD Micro card so I can add local as well as state trails? I'm currently upgrading my Garmin to a Zumo set up so I will have all local trails, State plus roadway information. A very bright screen for direct sunlight. I like the old school gauges and they will be missed over the years. As pretty as a LCD screen may be, when I am riding, I am not admiring it. I just glance. My current 800 GSX, do to my age, I have to pull over to look at the current screen to see what changes I am making. SO when I can make changes via a knob or on the handle bars its not a deal breaker for me at all. Plus why would you be focusing on a screen making changes and riding at the same time. That's is the same thing as texting and driving but worse. A tree will always win in a collision.
On the Polaris 7S, you can load in your own GPX tracks from a USB drive, or you can use the Ride Command website and upload them. You can then log into your account right on the 7S display and sync them down.
I’m definitely not anti-Polaris; however, I have been loyal to SkiDoo. I don’t buy sleds for gages, and the minimalist gage on my 2019 FreeRide suits the purpose just fine. I like the redundancy of a gage, cellphone, and Garmin Montana.
That being said, the new Doo gage is a fail compared with Polaris’ in my opinion. I don’t care for the wide format, dependency on the phone, and clunky functionality. I think that while Skidoo’s overall offering is fantastic, Polaris is doing a great job at listening to what their customers want.
We wants that screen on Can Am Outlander ATV
the thing about these screens is when its -30 they wont work well at all
Actually the Polaris version works really well even at super low temps, the previous version stood up to it, it was a much slower responding gauge but we never had a failure even down to -40 plus windchill on top of that. ~AJ
I've used the Skidoo screen in -30 and there's no difference in performance.
Ski-doo guys always gotta defend there sleds 😂
LoL, yeah we are finding that too, gotta love the brand loyalty in our sport through, everyones passionate! ~AJ
Wow awesome polaris... love my polaris sleds.
Skidoo missed again on the display. Sled is still a winner tho
Nah, the Polaris lineup is infinitely times better
@@xcgavin5658 Sure.
These new gauge's were not meant to use as you ride along other than for speed obviously on either sled if making adjustments I would come to a complete stop that is just common sense. The Ski doo is more like a android and Polaris is Apple lol the ski doo gauge will be come very intuitive after you get use to it. Polaris is easier do to the touchscreen both are cool though and leaps ahead of the older gauges. I do believe that you could use the ofsc app on the ski doo Gauge I hope so anyhow
Personally I'm not a fan of either gauge, theyre getting way to complicated
Thats fair, sometimes less is more. ~AJ
Gotta be a way around that.
Watching this when my sled doesn't even have headlights...
Surprise surprise Polaris trax loves Polaris over the sales leader
I’d prefer the Polaris 7s. I bought a new Ski doo for other reasons. I have a garmin gps and the Polaris ride command on my phone. In my opinion there’s no need for these screens. I get it everyone wants the latest and greatest electronics but at what cost? Electronics have made pricing in everything sky rocket.
It's adding up for sure, seems everything we have in life is getting more tech and therefore more cost ~AJ
You can just buy the version that doesnt have the all the technology. Its not like they ONLY offer the fully loaded gauges.
@@pavmentsurfer13right and I am a big fan of the standard Polaris screen that is on my sportsman. I have yet to play with the one on my ski doo since Wisconsin is lacking in snow this year so far. Pray for snow!!!
Omg the skidoo one sucks for reconnecting after a timeout. So after 3 hours of riding you now have burnt in screen on your phone for leaving it on the whole time.
Snow flakes will activate a touch screen i would think that is why BRP i'snt touch screen
I just switched from Doo to Polaris for 2022....this 7S gauge was the final deciding factor. Doo you TOTALLY missed the boat, not sure who the Team lead is on this, but your losing riders to Polaris!!
Ski doo fan but that screen sucks/ugly it's. Two screens they can't even make it one big one screen like polaris
Your correct it's two screens, in day mode it's quite obvious, it looks much cleaner in night mode (As we shot it) as you can't see the space between the screens. ~AJ
Polaris has a nice guage setup but there motors still eat gas and oil compared to the etecs
You Polaris fanb......just kidding. Love doo ride doo, bought the doo gauge and I'm face palm watching this comparison. Not a doo fan in the world would say poo didn't knock this one out of the park
LoL, love it. Thanks for your honest opinion on it, it's appreciated. ~AJ
Come to red bridge for an episode
..yeah been sayin for years Polaris is years ahead of BRP with regard to technology.
Interesting, maybe BRP needs to steal Polaris technology. That only be fair, considering how much they taken from BRP.
Well in the world of snowmobiling they really have all taken from each other at one time or another. Heck the slide rail suspension all sleds are built off today is taken from Arctic Cat. Lots of give and take from all 4 brands ~AJ
@@dirttraxtv but what has really been taken from polaris in the past 20 years?
No Arctic Cat system? 😂
Actually we were just talking about how Arctic and Yamaha could get together with the system from the Yamaha side by sides that use Magellan( I believe thats the brand) Could be a cool step up for them. ~AJ
Its cool and all but geez,to me this is a timebomb,watch the accidents rate go up,same as cars,people too busy screwing around a gauge while riding instead of focusing on trail conditions,plus you have to pay more,again,,sorry for the rant,just my thought
too nuch to go wrong.....no thanx
Sometimes simpler is better ~AJ
Stop trying to sell Snowmobiles with Gadgets. No wonder the industry is in decline. 90% of Canadians Now make less then 28 grand a year. Target that market. With low tech stuff. Like an Analog gauge set. (saving money on new Machines). Our Industry is going to disappear if something drastic isn't changed.
Apple maps are crap for tared roads much less snowmobile trails. What a huge miss. The whole world does not use Apple.
90% of the world does not use apple
The skidoo gauge is terrible. Not intuitive. Clunky 1990's technology. Useless with out a phone . Does not connect to all bluetooth speakers. This needs so much work they should just go back to the drawing board. Feel like I got ripped off completely.
There is no comparison. Ski doo is total garbage. The entire screen is so small. Long and very narrow. Very small numbers. Almost dangerous to try to read while driving. Shame on you brp.