This is a benefit of being non native speaker - you don't have to care about sense and can simply try random combinations of letters that sound like a word :)
I love Mark's ability to simply instantly produce word lists that match any criteria. And I love Mark and Simon's willingness to risk looking foolish at times, because for sure I look foolish a lot of the time and it's helpful to see people who have a good attitude about it. AND he got the word!!
This took me a while too, but I didn't quibble at "piney." It is in the OED, and in fact there are two different words. Piney #1 is a loan word from Tamil (!!), attested since 1830, referring to the "piney varnish tree." Piney #2 is the adjective from "pine," and both spellings, with and without "e," are attested since the 1620s -- in British sources. This video was dramatic -- happy to see you hang on to that streak!
I do the wordle with my son (9) every morning at breakfast - it's become a family tradition. Yesterday, he offered up PINEY and I told him that's not a word. He insisted and I typed it in to prove him wrong.. only for him to hold it over me the rest of the day. So yeah, I'm team Mark here. (it's a lot easier to deal with when you have the Y, which we did)
That situation was not handled assertively as a parental figure. A fair statement would be "I don't know that word" instead of "that's not a word". False accusations of being wrong leave deep marks in young children (especially pre-teen) unless properly apologized afterwards - which I hope you did. - Clarification: I am only talking about this one scenario, I never judged the commenter's character.
@@ferdinandpurczeld234 You forgot the part where you list your five separate degrees in child psychology and your experience of fostering eighteen orphans at once, each of whom went on to become millionaires.
Nothing like judging me based on a single comment on UA-cam.~ Especially because you missed my point entirely. I added a clarification if you are willing to read back. I am willing to respond to logical points and counterpoints. I am not interested in hypocrisy.
PARSE-PIETY-PIKEY-PILEY-PINEY. Now Simon's remarks last night makes sense 🤔. For a moment I thought it was déjà vu. The past few days have been quite easy/ lucky for me since WALTZ 😂
I struggled with this one too, due to my choice of letters I got stuck after my 3rd guess and after several minutes I put in the correct word purely as a joke because I was so stuck. I burst out laughing when it showed as correct. These last few puzzles have been very tough and it makes me feel so much better seeing Mark struggle just as bad. Though I will say I am blown away at how quickly he got Waltz the other day. I was stuck on that one for far longer than I care to admit.
Normally I love to see a longer-than-average video from you, Mark, but that is in the evening and involves a bigger-than-5x6 grid! I love that you put the dictionary entry at the top of the screen. Oh dear, at least you kept your streak going! I love these … shorts?! Thanks, as always.
I tried googling for a definition of 'piney'. I found three possible meanings: - adjective derived from 'pine' (Shouldn't that just be 'piny'?) - someone from the New Jersey Pine Barrens - an English name used for the tree Vateria indica is 'piney tree' (it produces a resin called 'piney resin' and a fat called 'piney tallow') To me it doesn't really make sense to include this in the word list.
Why doesn't it make sense? We have words like the following: Cone/Coney Bone/Boney Tone/Toney You don't always have to drop the 'e' It's not impossible for it to be a thing.
I dont know if it's regional, but in my part of the US (Missouri) I have seen piney used somewhat frequently as an adjective. I've seen craft beer referred to as having piney notes. We even have a river in south central MO named the Big Piney River after the abundance of pine trees along its banks.
I was so gutted when you said pine at 54 seconds but then didnt see Piney :( . this one i was very lucky on. Loves, Paten, Pined, Piney. Love your videos watch them every day!
Mark, I do believe that everyone had trouble with this one, and I was also guessing at the end. And yes, I also guessed piney, but it certainly took me longer than your go. Keep up that streak!
I'm surprised to see Mark, along with so many people in the comments, had so much trouble with this one. I guess I got lucky with my word choices, as I did it in like 10 seconds. Started with TIRED as I always do, giving me the I and E. Then went with PILES to check out some more common consonants which gave me the P, and then PINEY was the only thing immediately obvious to me.
Great minds do think alike, I also got it, and also yelled at the screen "That's not a word!", although my version had several expletives. I have to think it's PINEY as in someone pining away for a lost love. But that E... Makes it sound like a commercial for cleaning fluid "with the obnoxious piney scent" Either way, well done, you didn't wear green but I still enjoyed your solve. 😁😁😂😂
I started with THINK for this day as well to see how similar we might be. I don't remember at all what I did after that, but I got it in five I believe.
I got this in 3 quite quickly, only because I tried a word in an attempt to see if it worked in an effort to eliminate some letters. Pure luck, and I had to check the definition after.
Same reaction as you Mark but I got it in 5. PINEY is not a word but at least I got it this time unlike the infamous streak-ending HUNKY several weeks back.
I like that Mark's reasoning is that it's not a word. Then there's me who, starting from the 4th guess or so, starts thinking of letters that could reasonably form a word even if I don't necessarily know what it means, if anything.
Mark is probably about 3 standard definitions above the mean in English vocabulary and recognition for anyone in the world who is not a professional linguist/lexicographer (maybe his decades of crossword championships should make him a professional), that’s for sure.
Im not surprised that you have not heard but i know the piney woods are what we call the small eastern wooded part of texas where it borders louisiana in the states
Back-to-back days when I'm faster than Mark...quite possibly also the only 2 days that I've been faster than Mark 😄 I happen to get the P early and where I work in retail I think I've seen Piney on air freshener type products. Either that or I got lucky in thinking that 😃
Funny enough, the main reason i got this as quickly as i did is because i was solving this with my supervisor (a non-native English speaker) and he said PENNY which sparked PINEY for me as PENNY was not possible because we knew from the previous guess the E wasn't 2nd
it IS a word, its the alternative spelling of "Piny" which means 1. abounding in pines. 2. of or like pines; esp., having the odor of pines. you would use it like, "he followed the 'piney' aroma to find the source"
I used the first two starting words of cable, and Pinky, so I had no choice but to guess p i n e y with the yellow e from cable and the green p i n and y
Piney and viny are in fact both words, but viny loses the E. I paused the video after DINER and puzzled over it for a while and eventually determined that PINEY was the best guess (which I then confirmed was the only possible remaining solution by consulting the Wordle dictionary). Then I returned to the video and saw from the length that Mark also puzzled over it for a while. Definitely a tough one.
Definitely not a spelling that we use but I got there quicker than Mark for once! Some luck involved that I had pinky as an option and then the E was the only letter that would fit. Watch>Ivory>Slimy>Pinky>Piney
This may be the first time ever that I got it faster than you (besides when I guessed other in 1) I figured getting the E early would help, because I got the P and the I and it took me four guess to get piney after the PIxxY trap. Either way, nice solve!
I got this in 3 because I have to choose this or viney, and viney felt somehow worse. I cover s in my first word to not give myself a plural out for hard mode. Very tough word.
I do Wordle (and plusword, worldle, waffle, yeardle, quordle, and framed) with my parents every day, and my mom was the only person to get it in 5. My dad and I got it on 6. And we're from a state which has that in a somewhat known town name, Big Piney, which while small (500 people or so) is always shown on weather maps since it's basically the coldest place in the lower 48 states
When you got really stuck I asked my computer to search for 5 letter words with INE in the middle and no thkfalwcdrm or s... It came up empty. Then I searched the actual wordle list-of-words and found zineb and of course piney. So my Linux "words" list agrees with you that it's not a word. And the same goes for zineb. Actually.. my chrome spellchecker here accepts piney but not zineb....
I know you're going to use alike to finish the phrase tomorrow, but after the last two words in the phrase took you over four minutes, I wonder if that is too big of a risk
The only reason i didn't lose on this one is all the previouos ?EY words and that i legit could not think of another word from my position. Smote -> Perch -> Plead -> Piney
I feel like "piney" is this sort of ungrammatical word where you take a noun, add a "y" to it and expect that to make it into an adjective. Like "that cloud looks a lot like a chair, it's very chairy" where you understand what the person means but it isn't really a word. It's kind of like the word "airy" - I've never really liked how it sounds, it's almost childish.
This one was brutal. I got it, but only just. After four tries, I had INE. Couldn't think of a thing, so I used a non-hard-mode word (I do my best to play in hard mode, but I don't actually have that setting turned on). Anyway, the last-ditch effort word happened to start with P and end in Y, so then I could just fill in PINEY on the 6th go. Streak saved! But yeah, IMO it's not a word, lol.
As a non-native speaker having to deal with american vs british spelling has been horrendeous to me when it comes to WiaM. I had piney on 4 but that was due to luck on 2nd guess and I was already bruteforcing my way into "wtf could this even be" :S
Since the NYT overtook wordle, they here and there put words like this in there... which isn't even fun anymore. piney supposedly are the native inhabitants of the new jersey pine barrens.
Wordle in a minute is finally relatable
Underrated comment
I cannot overstate how much it improves my mood and self-confidence to see Mark have as much trouble with this Wordle as I had!
It's an absolutely useless word and shouldn't be one
As a non native speaker, something that's *not a word* is usually my 4th or 5th guess.
As a native speaker, I can say the same.
Yeah, I tried "viney" and it means absolutely nothing 😆
This is a benefit of being non native speaker - you don't have to care about sense and can simply try random combinations of letters that sound like a word :)
I love how the video ends in "bye for no-" and cuts off as if it was cut short to fit in a UA-cam Short. 😆
I love Mark's ability to simply instantly produce word lists that match any criteria. And I love Mark and Simon's willingness to risk looking foolish at times, because for sure I look foolish a lot of the time and it's helpful to see people who have a good attitude about it. AND he got the word!!
I’m actually crying at “The Movie” 😂😂
SHITE-CIDER-LIMEY-PINEY
I was in a mood. 😂
Limey piney shite cider? If I saw it in a pub I'd give it a try 🤣🤣🤣
@@duzehalo 😂👍
This took me a while too, but I didn't quibble at "piney." It is in the OED, and in fact there are two different words. Piney #1 is a loan word from Tamil (!!), attested since 1830, referring to the "piney varnish tree." Piney #2 is the adjective from "pine," and both spellings, with and without "e," are attested since the 1620s -- in British sources. This video was dramatic -- happy to see you hang on to that streak!
I was lucky to start with a P word, but glad Marks reaction to piney validated my own
Two days in a row, wow
I do the wordle with my son (9) every morning at breakfast - it's become a family tradition. Yesterday, he offered up PINEY and I told him that's not a word. He insisted and I typed it in to prove him wrong.. only for him to hold it over me the rest of the day. So yeah, I'm team Mark here. (it's a lot easier to deal with when you have the Y, which we did)
That situation was not handled assertively as a parental figure. A fair statement would be "I don't know that word" instead of "that's not a word". False accusations of being wrong leave deep marks in young children (especially pre-teen) unless properly apologized afterwards - which I hope you did. - Clarification: I am only talking about this one scenario, I never judged the commenter's character.
@@ferdinandpurczeld234 nothing like judging someone’s entire parental skill based on a single sentence in a UA-cam comment.
You got the wrong message if that's what you deduced.
@@ferdinandpurczeld234 You forgot the part where you list your five separate degrees in child psychology and your experience of fostering eighteen orphans at once, each of whom went on to become millionaires.
Nothing like judging me based on a single comment on UA-cam.~ Especially because you missed my point entirely. I added a clarification if you are willing to read back. I am willing to respond to logical points and counterpoints. I am not interested in hypocrisy.
SIREN was such a good starting guess that I got this one in 3. Took me a hot second, though.
Now you know how the rest of us feel when we play this game.
PARSE-PIETY-PIKEY-PILEY-PINEY. Now Simon's remarks last night makes sense 🤔. For a moment I thought it was déjà vu. The past few days have been quite easy/ lucky for me since WALTZ 😂
I struggled with this one too, due to my choice of letters I got stuck after my 3rd guess and after several minutes I put in the correct word purely as a joke because I was so stuck. I burst out laughing when it showed as correct.
These last few puzzles have been very tough and it makes me feel so much better seeing Mark struggle just as bad.
Though I will say I am blown away at how quickly he got Waltz the other day. I was stuck on that one for far longer than I care to admit.
Mark started with Think and Final, and he really gave a good thought at the end
Normally I love to see a longer-than-average video from you, Mark, but that is in the evening and involves a bigger-than-5x6 grid! I love that you put the dictionary entry at the top of the screen. Oh dear, at least you kept your streak going! I love these … shorts?! Thanks, as always.
I tried googling for a definition of 'piney'. I found three possible meanings:
- adjective derived from 'pine' (Shouldn't that just be 'piny'?)
- someone from the New Jersey Pine Barrens
- an English name used for the tree Vateria indica is 'piney tree' (it produces a resin called 'piney resin' and a fat called 'piney tallow')
To me it doesn't really make sense to include this in the word list.
Why doesn't it make sense?
We have words like the following:
Cone/Coney
Bone/Boney
Tone/Toney
You don't always have to drop the 'e'
It's not impossible for it to be a thing.
I dont know if it's regional, but in my part of the US (Missouri) I have seen piney used somewhat frequently as an adjective. I've seen craft beer referred to as having piney notes. We even have a river in south central MO named the Big Piney River after the abundance of pine trees along its banks.
It's definitely a word, but it seems the spelling is an alternate one.
I think it is confusing that -y adverbs are wordle words while -s nouns/verbs or -ed past tense are generally not.
Piney is an alternative spelling of piny.
Mark absolutely fuming 😂
The Piney Woods is a region in eastern Texas (USA) that contains pine trees.
In East Texas we have the Piney Woods. It is all pine trees.
I was so gutted when you said pine at 54 seconds but then didnt see Piney :( . this one i was very lucky on. Loves, Paten, Pined, Piney. Love your videos watch them every day!
ZINEB was the only other possibility apparently
Mark, I do believe that everyone had trouble with this one, and I was also guessing at the end. And yes, I also guessed piney, but it certainly took me longer than your go. Keep up that streak!
This had me cackling, as soon as you stopped abruptly at Diner I just started out. As others have said, so relatable!
I'm surprised to see Mark, along with so many people in the comments, had so much trouble with this one. I guess I got lucky with my word choices, as I did it in like 10 seconds. Started with TIRED as I always do, giving me the I and E. Then went with PILES to check out some more common consonants which gave me the P, and then PINEY was the only thing immediately obvious to me.
Great minds do think alike, I also got it, and also yelled at the screen "That's not a word!", although my version had several expletives.
I have to think it's PINEY as in someone pining away for a lost love. But that E... Makes it sound like a commercial for cleaning fluid "with the obnoxious piney scent"
Either way, well done, you didn't wear green but I still enjoyed your solve. 😁😁😂😂
He put the definition on the screen.
I only thought of it because November 1st is the start of Christmas displays everywhere where I live…that describes the smell of all the candles!
November 1? Outrageous... ;-( Here in Germany, most cities have the decency to wait until the week before 1st advent.
If someone could tell me the title of the background song, I would appreciate it :)
I struggled so hard with this Wordle. Absolutely brutal.
I started with THINK for this day as well to see how similar we might be. I don't remember at all what I did after that, but I got it in five I believe.
Beautiful title to the video :)
How do you spell piney woods in the UK? Isn't it always spelled with an ey?
I got this in 3 quite quickly, only because I tried a word in an attempt to see if it worked in an effort to eliminate some letters. Pure luck, and I had to check the definition after.
The streak is alive!
Same reaction as you Mark but I got it in 5. PINEY is not a word but at least I got it this time unlike the infamous streak-ending HUNKY several weeks back.
I’m so sorry Mark for how much better I feel about myself watching you struggle too. This one was carnage (yesterday’s too TBF!)
I like that Mark's reasoning is that it's not a word. Then there's me who, starting from the 4th guess or so, starts thinking of letters that could reasonably form a word even if I don't necessarily know what it means, if anything.
I’ve done that “I dunno this feels like it should be a word” is a phrase I’ve said a couple times
Mark is probably about 3 standard definitions above the mean in English vocabulary and recognition for anyone in the world who is not a professional linguist/lexicographer (maybe his decades of crossword championships should make him a professional), that’s for sure.
“Piney” has been a word in the daily sedecordle before which is the only reason it was on my radar. Got it in 3!
Snare> Being> Piney
I lost a 30+ practice game streak on Quordle because of piney. I was PO'd then but pleased with knowing the word yesterday.
I started with Lucky which helped me guess it easier, but I still went directly to a dictionary after to prove it is a word
I froze the puzzle at 4 and came to the conclusion it must be piney, but only after I checked MW. Viney was a no no. Well done!
I laughed out loud when Simon said this in his video yesterday: ua-cam.com/video/sHovQ_fjW0E/v-deo.html
Two wordle in 5 mins back to back, wow xD
Still amazing he got Piney in 6! Really had to get brainy with this one 🤣
Not a word(le) in not a minute - the movie :)
almost lost on this one, haven > coned > linen > finer > sinew > piney... phew. Figured I wasn't the only one.
I recently had a wonderful Juniper-based gin. I would describe it as predominately ".....", with hints of black pepper and citrus.
Im not surprised that you have not heard but i know the piney woods are what we call the small eastern wooded part of texas where it borders louisiana in the states
adieu -> story - piney
Maybe it's because I live in the U.S., but "piney" came pretty easily to me.
My family Wordle group also declared PINEY a non-word! We all got it though.😅
If you think Wordle uses non-words, I'd stay away from Spelling Bee for sure. :D
Does anyone know the piece of music that's playing?
DOUSE -> GREAT -> PINEY
I'm not making that up, my greatest third guess ever. 😆
Apparently, according to Google, piney is a good Scrabble word. Mark did what I did with WALTZ -- looking at the Z but not seeing it.
Merriam Webster (an American dict., admittedly) says (under "Other Words from pine"): piney or less commonly piny ...
Back-to-back days when I'm faster than Mark...quite possibly also the only 2 days that I've been faster than Mark 😄 I happen to get the P early and where I work in retail I think I've seen Piney on air freshener type products. Either that or I got lucky in thinking that 😃
I got this one out of sheer luck of trying to eliminate some letters
Funny enough, the main reason i got this as quickly as i did is because i was solving this with my supervisor (a non-native English speaker) and he said PENNY which sparked PINEY for me as PENNY was not possible because we knew from the previous guess the E wasn't 2nd
it IS a word, its the alternative spelling of "Piny" which means 1. abounding in pines. 2. of or like pines; esp., having the odor of pines.
you would use it like, "he followed the 'piney' aroma to find the source"
I got this one in 4, mainly because I had run out of alternatives. I might have had it in 3, had I not tried winey first.
I used the first two starting words of cable, and Pinky, so I had no choice but to guess p i n e y with the yellow e from cable and the green p i n and y
Piney and viny are in fact both words, but viny loses the E.
I paused the video after DINER and puzzled over it for a while and eventually determined that PINEY was the best guess (which I then confirmed was the only possible remaining solution by consulting the Wordle dictionary). Then I returned to the video and saw from the length that Mark also puzzled over it for a while. Definitely a tough one.
My starting word is always GRAPH. That helped me find the P early. Honestly, I already forgot the rest of the wordle, but I got it pretty quick
I actually, I think my 2nd word was PINKY 😂 pretty sweet 2nd guess for me!
I forget too, have started to archive my games by saving screenshots.
I agree - it's not a word. I got it in 5, but just by luck.
i had it in four !!!
Definitely not a spelling that we use but I got there quicker than Mark for once! Some luck involved that I had pinky as an option and then the E was the only letter that would fit. Watch>Ivory>Slimy>Pinky>Piney
This one took me ages as well... SNARK -> NIGHT -> WINDY -> MINXY -> PINEY
Glad I wasn’t the only one the struggled. My last guess was ‘windy’ and lost my streak
This was me a couple of days ago, trying to figure out what could go after the T in WALTZ. That was pure evil 😅
4 guesses for me
Miles -> Giver -> Widen -> Piney
i did this one 5 minutes before midnight when it switches here in gmt+1, and just as i got it it lost my streak xD
I didn't think piney was a word either but I tried it because I couldn't think of anything else as well.
This may be the first time ever that I got it faster than you (besides when I guessed other in 1) I figured getting the E early would help, because I got the P and the I and it took me four guess to get piney after the PIxxY trap. Either way, nice solve!
It took me six too, and I also ended putting PINEY because I couldn't see a proper word to fit.
Thankfully I can't spell.😄 You just need to know P is the about seventh most common as the starting letter any Y is the in the top 4 last letters.
Huh, I missed this one yesterday. (My current starter word would have revealed a Y)
I guessed "pinny" which did help
i even tried PINGO before that :D
I got this in 3 because I have to choose this or viney, and viney felt somehow worse. I cover s in my first word to not give myself a plural out for hard mode. Very tough word.
these past two days have been difficult, ny times mustve hired someone new to generate these words
I nearly didn't get today's word as I went with not the best starting word, but I got today's in four so you should hopefully find it a lot easier
This was nerve wrecking.. 😳 I so much want to see him get a 100 streak in my lifetime. 🙄
I must be one of the few people that didn't have much trouble with this one... though my starting guess of piety may have had something to do with it.
Bogus word, got it in 4. Arise, given, lined, piney
I do Wordle (and plusword, worldle, waffle, yeardle, quordle, and framed) with my parents every day, and my mom was the only person to get it in 5. My dad and I got it on 6.
And we're from a state which has that in a somewhat known town name, Big Piney, which while small (500 people or so) is always shown on weather maps since it's basically the coldest place in the lower 48 states
Hard. Got in 4. Speed->Caper->Expel->Piney
Took a long time to think. Then by accident came to Piney. Third gues was useless on the e.
When you got really stuck I asked my computer to search for 5 letter words with INE in the middle and no thkfalwcdrm or s... It came up empty. Then I searched the actual wordle list-of-words and found zineb and of course piney. So my Linux "words" list agrees with you that it's not a word. And the same goes for zineb. Actually.. my chrome spellchecker here accepts piney but not zineb....
I had a luckier 2nd guess. THINK-PLAIN-PINED-PINEY
I got it in four - TRICK - PINGS - PINED - PINEY
More through luck than anything
I know you're going to use alike to finish the phrase tomorrow, but after the last two words in the phrase took you over four minutes, I wonder if that is too big of a risk
Even though it was a duff word, it doesn't seem to have ended many streaks.
TIMER
PIXEL
PIKEY (fat chance, given the derogatory usage)
PINEY
a surprising spelling for me as well
The only reason i didn't lose on this one is all the previouos ?EY words and that i legit could not think of another word from my position.
Smote -> Perch -> Plead -> Piney
I feel like "piney" is this sort of ungrammatical word where you take a noun, add a "y" to it and expect that to make it into an adjective. Like "that cloud looks a lot like a chair, it's very chairy" where you understand what the person means but it isn't really a word.
It's kind of like the word "airy" - I've never really liked how it sounds, it's almost childish.
This one was brutal. I got it, but only just. After four tries, I had INE. Couldn't think of a thing, so I used a non-hard-mode word (I do my best to play in hard mode, but I don't actually have that setting turned on). Anyway, the last-ditch effort word happened to start with P and end in Y, so then I could just fill in PINEY on the 6th go. Streak saved! But yeah, IMO it's not a word, lol.
As a non-native speaker having to deal with american vs british spelling has been horrendeous to me when it comes to WiaM. I had piney on 4 but that was due to luck on 2nd guess and I was already bruteforcing my way into "wtf could this even be" :S
I got lucky with my third word. SCARE-THINE-PINED-PINEY (yes, that E was bad in the second word...)
Since the NYT overtook wordle, they here and there put words like this in there... which isn't even fun anymore. piney supposedly are the native inhabitants of the new jersey pine barrens.
Another well deserved solve!