REALLY GOOD: My Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X Review and Benchmarks!

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  • @RepsUp100
    @RepsUp100 5 років тому +1294

    Now if only AMD can make the Ryzen of GPUs

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 5 років тому +78

      Why nobody would buy it. They put out a GPU that clearly and obviously caused Nvidia enough concern they did a refresh with the sole purpose being to interrupt AMD's launch of Navi. Then AMD reduced prices in response to Nvidia's price drop and refresh and reviewers like Steve from Gamers Nexus get paid to say "It looks like Intel brought competition to the market" and Gamers eat it up. Gamers are never going to buy an AMD GPU in numbers that matter, period. They will buy Nvidia no matter what they put out.

    • @scottyhaines4226
      @scottyhaines4226 5 років тому +85

      @@joer8854 unless they get a console then they buy an AMD GPUs lol

    • @Sircivus
      @Sircivus 5 років тому +124

      @@joer8854 Yet, AMD continues to make gpu's and hold market share. Someone must be buying them, I wonder who.

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 5 років тому +9

      @@Sircivus Yes but not the vast majority which is what we are talking about here. It's the few intelligent people who stop and straight up look at what they want to spend and buy price to performance for their budget. That's clearly not the way the vast majority does things. AMD needs to concentrate on keeping that group buying its products and making products that will be bought for computational purposes.

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 5 років тому +1

      @@scottyhaines4226 That's where they have a real shot at changing the market.

  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed 5 років тому +1194

    I came here first Paul, give me the goods :D

    • @treymatthews493
      @treymatthews493 5 років тому +15

      Paul is my dude! You all are pretty awesome too though! Wish I could lend a hand chugging though all this tiresome system building and testing!

    • @paulshardware
      @paulshardware  5 років тому +97

      You're the best Steve! I'm gonna watch yours too ♥️

    • @GoodJobLittleBuddy
      @GoodJobLittleBuddy 5 років тому +6

      Love you steve, i swear you're the 2nd guy i go to, unfortunately paul always comes first ;)

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed 5 років тому +35

      @@paulshardware No you're the best 😍 lol

    • @tiger_icecoldlive6762
      @tiger_icecoldlive6762 5 років тому +5

      I came! I just came...

  • @GriffinWiebel
    @GriffinWiebel 5 років тому +400

    Aaaaaand there goes my UA-cam feed...

  • @freecrawler6304
    @freecrawler6304 5 років тому +131

    I wanna quote what someone commented in a Tech Syndicate video -“It doesn’t matter how old the chip is, how many cores, or the clock speed. If they’re the same price, it’s a fair comparison.” Ryzen wins.

    • @tweeze123
      @tweeze123 5 років тому

      actually intel wins, they ahve higher fps

    • @genrabbit9995
      @genrabbit9995 5 років тому +9

      @@tweeze123 CPU's doesn't have FPS

    • @mcaniberk
      @mcaniberk 5 років тому +6

      @@tweeze123 did you consider only fps numbers between millions of values? LOL

    • @tweeze123
      @tweeze123 5 років тому +1

      @@mcaniberk yes. I get the CPUs to game. At this point whether intel or amd is faster in browsing, who gives a damn

    • @mcaniberk
      @mcaniberk 5 років тому +5

      @@tweeze123
      10:05
      10:29
      10:51
      12:16
      Are these look like browsing performance to you?
      Give more money for similar or lower performance intel fanboy. You deserve it :)

  • @christopherluke9658
    @christopherluke9658 5 років тому +119

    Paul I was gonna watch GN’s stuff but each video is 30mins per SKU. Thanks for the concise information.

    • @Knives7777
      @Knives7777 5 років тому +8

      I mean if that's a problem for you then that content is probably not for you and that's fine

    • @ultimatemeepo
      @ultimatemeepo 5 років тому +21

      @@Knives7777 literally every video on gamers nexus is long winded and boring, how is it that people provide the SAME information on other channels for far less time and without the boring monotonous voice throughout. His unique overclocking videos are his market niche tbh everything else feels like a chore to sit through

    • @minecraftmike5193
      @minecraftmike5193 5 років тому +4

      @@ultimatemeepo You hit the nail right on the head.

    • @minecraftmike5193
      @minecraftmike5193 5 років тому +1

      @Southeastern777 No ones going to argue with you there. Just stating opinions.

    • @Kayametra
      @Kayametra 5 років тому +15

      Jonathan GN goes through a lot of the very technical details of each SKU and how they equate across a large swath of different ones, things that, while not bad, other channels don’t really do for the essence of time. GN has a different way of going about things, and it may seem you’re not into that kind of thing, which is fine

  • @Xzor
    @Xzor 5 років тому +311

    Holding out for the 3950x, but good news all around!

    • @Millsy5
      @Millsy5 5 років тому

      Alex Rybicki when’s that out?

    • @mashedpotatoes77
      @mashedpotatoes77 5 років тому +10

      @@Millsy5 September this year according to the announcement.

    • @Requiem4aDr3Am
      @Requiem4aDr3Am 5 років тому +4

      @@Millsy5 September

    • @dragonfeatherz
      @dragonfeatherz 5 років тому +1

      Same here.
      Since the x570 MOBO I want is around 600$.

    • @Requiem4aDr3Am
      @Requiem4aDr3Am 5 років тому +1

      @@dragonfeatherz jesus christ which board? I am a huge fan of the asus rog crosshair hero boards and am currently using an x470 crosshair hero 7

  • @albertkisiel4346
    @albertkisiel4346 5 років тому +110

    I was refreshing YT whole day to watch first review ;) thanks a lot!

    • @albertkisiel4346
      @albertkisiel4346 5 років тому

      @Bruce Wayne And I do :) but for me, tech enthusiast it's great that finally I will be able to upgrade my system this year. Currently I'm running 3,8 GHz Xeon x3440, 2nd hand rx 580 (earlier baked Radeon 7850) with squeaking H55M-P31 SATA II motherboard.

    • @zehderp5451
      @zehderp5451 5 років тому

      @@angelsv stop being so toxic, let him do what he wants. You're getting nothing from being cancer on the internet

  • @ciarandoyle6021
    @ciarandoyle6021 5 років тому +67

    That single core performance! Great stuff Paul

  • @thedarkpassenger6696
    @thedarkpassenger6696 5 років тому +178

    I chose to watch you first because I believe we should "Paul the things..."
    or is it "Paul ALL the things" ??
    Either way, congrats on the new baby and a million+ subs. Keep up the great work!

  • @MrRagequitnow
    @MrRagequitnow 5 років тому +1

    Subbed for one reason, the only totally comprehensive breakdown I've been able to find on the new Ryzen chips. Specifically covering actual testing temperatures of the chips. I just helped my friend build his first pc. He lives in California, I'm in Ohio. He had temps that sounded really high to me, and trying to find information has really been a nightmare. So many gaming/workload benchmark video's out there, none that really touch thermals. Thank you for doing a good job, and the content!

  • @johnsfilmsllc
    @johnsfilmsllc 5 років тому +15

    All business in this review - LOVE IT. Nice job Paul

  • @psykobibi
    @psykobibi 5 років тому +51

    i think its the right time to change my CPU i5 3570k for a 3900x plus i really love the fact that they are compatible with older mobo GOOD JOB AMD !!!

    • @mohdnorhalimzainudin7740
      @mohdnorhalimzainudin7740 5 років тому +3

      Hey, another guy running a 3570k! I'm probably be getting the 3700x though, on a b450 board.

    • @psykobibi
      @psykobibi 5 років тому +1

      @@mohdnorhalimzainudin7740 team 3570k still here in 2019 haha I think to go on the same Mobo but on a 3900x I'll 'eed this for better perf in productivity like Photoshop / and video editing more than gaming , now I only wants to play VR with asseto Corsa competizione sooo :D ... But wait and for the prices drop a bit !

    • @yashyashino3135
      @yashyashino3135 5 років тому +1

      I7 3770k going for 3900x xD

    • @NightFoxXIII
      @NightFoxXIII 5 років тому +1

      Heeey. The i5-3570K crowd. Nice. Went for a 2700x and been happy with how it turned out.
      Sales are nice too. Have fun with your builds y'all

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 5 років тому

      i7-3770K here and upgrading to an R9-3900x (on order and by the time I get it Star Citizen will be in GOLD and telling me I need more cores LOL).
      Anyway, couple fun points:
      1) Did a tonne of research on motherboards including Buildzoid videos on power etc. Narrowed it down to the Asus Strix X470-F Gaming.
      2) for GAMING (not only use case for me) note that it's NOT mainly the increase in average FPS though that matters. It's the 1%/0.1% LOWS I'm more concerned about... for example, let's say you have a regular (not GSync/Freesync) 60Hz monitor and turn on VSYNC to avoid screen tearing. Does the game feel really smooth? Even if it reports 60FPS (i.e. FRAPS, Steam indicator) it's common to drop frames so NOT get an actual 60FPS... there are still a lot of games that a faster CPU would help with this
      3) POWER DRAW (for CPU cooler)... roughly speaking an i7-3770K should draw about 200W at 4.4GHz (the entire PC without graphics card but CPU load test). The R9-3900x should draw LESS power than this. Closer to 170W. I was pleased because I plan to use my existing Noctua NH-D14 cooler which works great still (note the 3-pin fans should be supported fine with most/all modern motherboards in the 4-pin fan headers and note that Noctua provides a free AM4 adapter with proof of purchase of the Noctua cooler and the CPU or motherboard. Form at their site. I can't order yet until my CPU ships.)
      4) 16GB DDR4 is plenty for gaming but I'm getting 32GB (2x16GB). Even if I didn't need it now (I do) I would eventually. This system is good for a long, long time (especially considering games will get more threaded and care less and less about individual core performance being the game render thread bottleneck). For games? TEN YEARS no problem with the R9-3900x.... oh, I'm getting the 3200MHz 16CL memory due to cost. I could get either 3600MHz 16CL or 3200MHz 14CL but the cost goes way up for very minimal gains. Like 50% higher for maybe 5% max that I'd never notice. Plus, I want at least something to tweak since PB2/PBO doesn't appear to have much overclock headroom (I'm not complaining with good out-of-box dynamic clock performance though).
      Only recently has my CPU started to become an issue for games though. Not much of one, though an i5-3570K (no hyperthreading) is going to suffer much worse compared to the i7-3770K in a lot of titles.
      *Final note. I always, always use MEMTEST86 to test system memory prior to installing an OS. Oh, and I will make a backup IMAGE using Acronis True Image of my OS partition but will just then plunk the Samsung SSD that has W10 on it straight on to the new motherboard... (booo, you can't do that don't you know anything?). It's a shit load of work to reinstall everything for me (which also requires to redownload the Windows Store games and though I have only four games it would take about FOUR FULL DAYS!). Anyway, it should be NO PROBLEM to just remove the drivers/software that no longer applies and install the new motherboard software, setup fan control profile etc... it is NOT the same situation as it was a few years ago where you'd get major issues without a clean install. W10 now is pretty damn good at re-detecting the hardware and associating the proper drivers (but just in case I still have that backup)

  • @MattShelby
    @MattShelby 5 років тому +124

    Thank you for tossing the 2700X in there as well, it helped to decide to upgrade or not.

    • @jarenneo1691
      @jarenneo1691 5 років тому +2

      so what do you think? are you going to upgrade?

    • @stainless4030
      @stainless4030 5 років тому +4

      Jaren Neo I mean, for gaming, I would not upgrade. Video editing, yes.

    • @jarenneo1691
      @jarenneo1691 5 років тому +1

      the same for me, i'd upgrade for work reason

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs 5 років тому +4

      Same , I have the 2700x currently as well, I'll upgrade early next year more than likely for gaming because 10-18% IPC increase over the 2700x would still be nice

    • @Catson91
      @Catson91 5 років тому +1

      I have 2700x now too, but i have planned spendings this year and i really should not upgrade, also, i spent 220£ on my x470 mobo, and from what i've seen so far, i really would need that new chipset one.

  • @TopFuelMechanic
    @TopFuelMechanic 5 років тому +42

    Paul, I really like that 3700X, really good content Paul.

  • @xTheGothic13x
    @xTheGothic13x 5 років тому +10

    Just see the gap between 2700X and 3700X :O
    What a generational leap!! and the power draw !

  • @DeSinc
    @DeSinc 5 років тому +30

    at 7:04 you said the 3900x is 36% faster than the 9900k but it has 30,000 points to intel's ~20,000 points which is 50% faster isn't it? 30717 is 156% of 19692 not 136%
    edit: and at 9:38 you said the 3900x is over 30% faster than the 3700x but it's actually over 44% faster. I think you did your divides backwards and got how much *slower* the lower part was, not how much *faster* the higher part was

    • @paulshardware
      @paulshardware  5 років тому +14

      Yes, you're correct - I flipped the comparison for several of those, I realized it during editing and tried to remove the erroneous ones but a few slipped through. I should have scripted that part rather than trying to interpret my spreadsheet on the fly 😅

    • @arshakkhanzadyan8437
      @arshakkhanzadyan8437 4 роки тому +9

      I had a spasm reading this

  • @MrJohnLongbow
    @MrJohnLongbow 5 років тому +99

    It is like the AMD FX against the 1st gen intel i7’s all over again... but in reverse 😉
    - FX 5.0GHz then, high power draw and heat.
    - 9900K 5.0GHz now, high power and heat.(comparitively) 😉

    • @Dirtyboxer1
      @Dirtyboxer1 5 років тому +9

      Well, except that the 9900K is actually a really good CPU in its own right and the FX series wasn't. Even though the 3900X is on par or exceeding the 9900K, it's not as if anyone who owns a 9900K is going to swap platforms to AMD; however, anyone on an 8700K might consider it.

    • @halbgefressen9768
      @halbgefressen9768 5 років тому +12

      @@Dirtyboxer1 I'm on 8600k@5.3GHz with delid and air cooling and I'm buying that 3900x

    • @bftjoe
      @bftjoe 5 років тому +2

      @@halbgefressen9768 Why? Do you edit videos all day or something?

    • @MrJohnLongbow
      @MrJohnLongbow 5 років тому +2

      @@bftjoe Some people do use these processors for other things then gaming. For instance, at the office we use Adobe and Autodesk software alot and the Zen 2 processors are a very welcome addition. We of course still have i7's, i9's and Xeon's at the moment but these new processors are something to look forward to :)

    • @bftjoe
      @bftjoe 5 років тому +1

      @@MrJohnLongbow That makes sense but the upgrade for that guy would be quite small for most uses.

  • @crismeman3386
    @crismeman3386 5 років тому +10

    This is a total AMD total assault on 2 fronts. I always love the underdogs.

  • @LUFFY09789
    @LUFFY09789 5 років тому +159

    So, the best cpu in terms of value for money, tdp and performance is the Ryzen 7 3700x

    • @ares2067
      @ares2067 5 років тому +8

      Depending on what your budget is sure. Can't go wrong with a 3700x definitely.

    • @totochandelier
      @totochandelier 4 роки тому +1

      Based on overall performance , at the date of today, the best value for money is the 2700x . 71% of the bae 100 (r 3900x) for 220 € , when the 3900x costs 600€. The difference of ratio is not équivalent for the 3700x. Depends of your needs .

    • @ciprianstan9684
      @ciprianstan9684 4 роки тому +1

      I just bought a 3700x and it has pretty high temps on idle with stock cooler between 40 and 55 doing nothing

    • @shinkimo
      @shinkimo 4 роки тому +11

      @@ciprianstan9684 That's not that high. You need to worry when temps go above 80.

    • @CDGG36
      @CDGG36 4 роки тому +1

      @@ciprianstan9684 Choose voltage and speed manually and its solved. High temps are constant and innecesary boost fault. Read some updated overclock tutorial before, but its really simple

  • @IBRAHIM-vz1un
    @IBRAHIM-vz1un 5 років тому

    Paul 👍 I remember when I was noob in PC stuff
    I was watching your videos and other youtube (lines,tech yes city,etc...) channels for a long time, which was very helpful...
    and then I build my own PC in October 2016
    and here we go again watching your video about Ryzen 3000!!
    this moment spark good memories.

  • @rmpumper
    @rmpumper 5 років тому +42

    TPU already has a X470 vs X570 test for both 3700X and 3900X. The results: less than 1% performance difference with identical max OC.

    • @rmpumper
      @rmpumper 5 років тому +3

      @Rando Chickens www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-3900x-3700x-tested-on-x470/

    • @dime4026
      @dime4026 5 років тому

      You haven't mentioned a lack of pcie lanes with the x470. Max oc pointless if you don't have enough lanes

    • @saltedllama2759
      @saltedllama2759 5 років тому +2

      @@dime4026 That's not going to be relevant unless you are packing your PCIe lanes with m.2's or something.

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 5 років тому

      @@dime4026 ,
      Enough PCIe lanes to do what though? For 99% of the people this doesn't matter. Also, you probably mean the increased bandwidth per lane with PCIe v4.0 not having more lanes. AFAIK the CPU isn't adding more lanes. Pretty sure it's 24 lanes still. x16 to the top slot usually used by a graphics card. x4 for the M.2's that connect to the CPU. x4 to the CHIPSET which it shares between SATA, USB, network etc (CPU has its own additional CPU etc too).

  • @harisrizvanbegovic2728
    @harisrizvanbegovic2728 5 років тому +3

    Much appreciate, Paul, the fact that you included 2700X in comparison. Much better scaling and clearer numbers. For future choice. Thank you. I enjoyed vid.

  • @Loobo23
    @Loobo23 5 років тому +3

    Hey Paul, Im building my first pc this week thanks to you and ur videos, thanks a lot! keep it up buddy

  • @ilove2playtoo
    @ilove2playtoo 5 років тому +2

    I really liked the chart with game / productivity vs price comparison.
    Great job Paul, as always. ;-)

  • @Jonathan-fw6ty
    @Jonathan-fw6ty 5 років тому +103

    Most of those benchmarks are outdated already because the new chipset drivers apparently helps a whole lot.
    Linus tested BF5 limiting it to one CCX and got like... a 50fps boost both in minimum and avg fps.

    • @Battugun
      @Battugun 5 років тому

      JAJAJA RIP AMD SO BAD RESULTS OVERALL

    • @FRIPPE_THE_GREAT
      @FRIPPE_THE_GREAT 5 років тому +18

      Hey Paul, you need to rerun the test with the new Bios. 😂🤣

    • @lethalyoshie
      @lethalyoshie 5 років тому +44

      Glen Rios that’s a 50fps boost not 50fps total.

    • @mango251
      @mango251 5 років тому +34

      @@Battugun *so bad for Intel

    • @seamusbyrne8259
      @seamusbyrne8259 5 років тому +41

      @@Battugun oof, U Intel fanboy

  • @jamesg4337
    @jamesg4337 5 років тому +219

    Wow bye bye my old i7. Hello ryzen 3900x

    • @antongrekov7710
      @antongrekov7710 5 років тому +21

      Can you send me the i7? :]

    • @Saigonas
      @Saigonas 5 років тому +7

      @@antongrekov7710 no

    • @TheCaptaintsubasaj
      @TheCaptaintsubasaj 5 років тому +21

      bye bye my i7 4790k, hello Ryzen 3900x

    • @zjean97z56
      @zjean97z56 5 років тому +3

      @@TheCaptaintsubasaj Gift me jajaja

    • @Saigonas
      @Saigonas 5 років тому +7

      @@TheCaptaintsubasaj i still have my I7-4790K. Do you really need 12cores if were playing with 4 core cpu before. Wouldn't 3700x/3800x be a better choice, it would serve well till 4000/5000series.

  • @FutureChaosTV
    @FutureChaosTV 5 років тому +12

    The most astonishing feat that AMD has achieved is the power envelope.

    • @576356
      @576356 5 років тому +2

      50% less power draw than Intel.

    • @razoo911
      @razoo911 5 років тому

      @@576356 from 3700x to 9900k there is 100% more power

  • @TechnoLadz
    @TechnoLadz 5 років тому +12

    5:07 “12 vs 18”
    Me: He’s definitely tired, it’s 8 vs 12 lmao

  • @gertjanvandermeij4265
    @gertjanvandermeij4265 5 років тому +52

    4:38 .... COOL ! AMD is no longer the high temp , and power king ;-)

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 5 років тому +5

      @caRn What the fuck is DURRR? Some twit comment trying make themselves appear smarter?

  • @benthomas8390
    @benthomas8390 5 років тому

    Congratulations Paul I chose you above all the other video releases at 8 a.m. Central Standard Time! I'm guessing that was when the Embargo lifted LOL! Thanks for giving me something to listen to as I walk my one-month-old around the house trying to get him to sleep

  • @mandasantoso
    @mandasantoso 5 років тому +14

    Wait, did you apply all the security fixes for Intel CPUs for this benchmark?

  • @BobMotster
    @BobMotster 5 років тому +1

    Your test setup is the best out of everybody else who's doing reviews right now!

  • @AjayKumar-fz4mx
    @AjayKumar-fz4mx 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for including the Ryzen 7 2700X

  • @Warhorse469
    @Warhorse469 5 років тому +2

    I'm really looking forward to seeing the 3700 X and the 3900 X with updated drivers and overclocking

  • @BeeWhere
    @BeeWhere 5 років тому +6

    Lots of information here, how was 1440p and 4k? I don't expect people play games at 1080p with a $500 CPU and 2080ti.
    Keep up the fantastic work but also get back to your baby.

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 5 років тому +1

      1080p is the best test for CPU because the higher resolutions lean more on the GPU. I can tell you quite absolutely that the spread is going to be the same in almost all games but the gaps will be considerably smaller at 1440p and then smaller still at 4K.

    • @BeeWhere
      @BeeWhere 5 років тому +3

      @@kaldo_kaldo I understand that 1080p highlights the difference in the processor. So would 720p, it would likely be more pronounced. My point is that no one is playing at 720p with this configuration, and at some point 1080p testing is going to be just as outdated given the strength of the hardware. If I'm building a computer with trh same specs I want to know if I can reach 1440p 144hz+ or 4k 100hz. If the Intel and AMD systems are functionality the same on the high end, then that is also an important factor to highlight.
      I'm not surprised Ryzen is better at multithreaded performance, they had that with the 2700x I want to know how these new high end close the gap. Definitely loved the power comparisons because it highlights the the efficiency.
      Those are my thoughts and thoughts I know most people play at 1080p according to the Steam data. The high end of the market is shifting and testing for 1080p will eventually be religated to the past as entry level GPU's become more capable.

  • @georgiehamilton8628
    @georgiehamilton8628 5 років тому

    Paul as a rookie in all things that are PC your videos are engaging knowledgeable and overall helping me so much in relieving the stress that comes with building my first PC thank you for all your help

  • @PTXDD
    @PTXDD 5 років тому +45

    YEEET, Have been waiting for this so damm long xD cant wait to see the video lmao

    • @RichardDower
      @RichardDower 5 років тому

      YEET

    • @megamind8359
      @megamind8359 5 років тому +2

      Yeet?whats a yeet?!
      YEET.

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII 5 років тому

      @@megamind8359 YEET, YEET YEET?
      YEEEEEET.

  • @Aepek
    @Aepek 5 років тому +1

    Isn’t it cool how all reviews are different 😉, enjoyed your POV on this new launch release! So fun, thx Paul✌🏼

  • @OrvenToaster
    @OrvenToaster 5 років тому +17

    I CAN NOT WAIT for the R5 and R3 reviews. I'm due for an upgrade and I want to compromise build with a Ryzen 5 3600+mobo+ram. Upgrade my aging i5-3570k.

    • @pramitkhanna7163
      @pramitkhanna7163 5 років тому +5

      Check out the Gamers Nexus review for the R5 3600! You will be pleasantly surprised :D

    • @phillip_iv_planetking6354
      @phillip_iv_planetking6354 5 років тому +2

      They lose to the 9600k in gaming.

    • @djsensacion7
      @djsensacion7 5 років тому +1

      R3 is not a Ryzen 3 CPU, get the Ryzen3 R5 instead

    • @OrvenToaster
      @OrvenToaster 5 років тому +1

      @@djsensacion7 I will. I want to know how the lower Ryzen 3 CPUs would perform at the lower cost segment as well.

    • @pramitkhanna7163
      @pramitkhanna7163 5 років тому

      @@phillip_iv_planetking6354 the 3600 is a 65W part. Ideally it would go head to head with a 9600 but those dont exist yet. You're forgetting the 9600K is a 95W part. And then so is the 3600X! ;)

  • @MrIvanSuv
    @MrIvanSuv 5 років тому +1

    Bets comparison review so far! Ordered ryzen 9 3900x! Thanks!

  • @TheCrustyCupcake
    @TheCrustyCupcake 5 років тому +28

    For all of the people who have been waiting for Zen 2, AMD just gave us an early Christmas.

  • @patrickptmonk8673
    @patrickptmonk8673 5 років тому

    Paul, thank you for your hard work. The 2 weeks surrounding this launch have been "SUPER" busy. Stay cool out there in Cali.

  • @corbinxtitus
    @corbinxtitus 5 років тому +5

    I camped at a bestbuy in NC, and there was a couple other people there. I went to get a ryzen 7 3700x, turns out bestbuy didnt have any instock. People were PISSED.

    • @USMCarter
      @USMCarter 5 років тому +2

      TheZombieSurvivalist all the people working there probably bought all 10 of them in stock and re-sold for $200 more on eBay /:

    • @corbinxtitus
      @corbinxtitus 5 років тому

      @@USMCarter LOL I doubt it, it just seemed like AMD didn't provide bestbuy any inventory for launch day. I was able to order my R7 3700x off newegg.

    • @cwli1
      @cwli1 5 років тому

      @TheZombieSurvivalist, People switching from Intel to AMD were angry that the Ryzen 3000s were sold out when they arrived in the stores...and they blame AMD for not knowing exactly how many people wanted one. If there is a huge surge in demand no one can predict that. AMD are very small compared to Intel and a sudden huge demand for AMD has never happened before.

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 5 років тому +2

    Thank's for a very detailed review. Looking forward to more.

  • @Swordust
    @Swordust 5 років тому +4

    I'm loving the angry Paul. Also loving the CPUs. I can finally upgrade off of my 4790k!
    Time to start eating bread for dinner.

  • @kneadraggr3938
    @kneadraggr3938 5 років тому

    Finally, Physics scores. Seemed like an obvious detail, but missing from most reviews so far. Thanks Paul!

  • @NaoVII
    @NaoVII 5 років тому +18

    5:50
    Intel fanboy won't be able to throw their trusty power draw and temp arguments now 😆

    • @Habs1967
      @Habs1967 4 роки тому +2

      @thegeorgezila both sides suck, Intel fanboys & AMD fanboys.
      It's pathetic that these people got nothing better to do with their lives.

  • @danielcampbell3686
    @danielcampbell3686 5 років тому

    Thanks for all the hard work you put in getting the benchmarks out, with how busy your home life is.

  • @jiacheng8479
    @jiacheng8479 5 років тому +9

    Hey Paul! Could you please do a test of R5 3600X vs R7 3700X with a 3000mhz stick ram vs 3200mhz stick ram vs 3600mhz stick?

  • @XiongysaurasRex
    @XiongysaurasRex 5 років тому +1

    3700x is looking like the sweet spot for a sff build.

  • @jolenebostwick3732
    @jolenebostwick3732 5 років тому +31

    Just ordered my 3700x.

    • @psykobibi
      @psykobibi 5 років тому +3

      never do that at day one or you gonna suprise haha , shit always happen on day one specifically with electronic stuff ^^ (sorry for my english)

    • @sven2386
      @sven2386 5 років тому +1

      F

    • @clearsingularity
      @clearsingularity 5 років тому

      Think ill wait until August to see how things play out

    • @jolenebostwick3732
      @jolenebostwick3732 5 років тому +1

      My 1600x died on me back in November so I have been putting off getting a 1600x or 2600x since then. I have been using an x58 x5875 since then and it's starting to show it's age.
      That same 1600x took out my 1080ti at the same time but that was replaced under warranty.

  • @Braindown73
    @Braindown73 5 років тому +1

    As always, Paul remains the only internet voice to really listen to regarding these matters

    • @Braindown73
      @Braindown73 5 років тому

      thegeorgezila oh, mainly because he managed to say everything I needed to know in pretty much 15 mins. Whereas most other vids available seem to ramble on for a lot longer. Plus he's always clear & concise.... I personally like his tone and conversational approach to presenting.... Ummmmm, apart from that I can't think of anything else to justify my personal opinion to a complete stranger. But I hope this helps you, please let me know if not.

  • @GrandSil90
    @GrandSil90 5 років тому +8

    The 3900X has smaller temp at max than my 6 core 8700k... great.

  • @kevcasey1816
    @kevcasey1816 4 роки тому

    Just bought the 3700x swapping out my i5 7600k...cant wait to install it along with my new mother board

  • @R34L157
    @R34L157 5 років тому +6

    I got brainfried watching this i can't imagine how you feel after doing all the benchmarks and comparisons! "And on the 7th day god made coffee, and it was good"

    • @drunkbillygoat
      @drunkbillygoat 5 років тому

      You should see Mr deals videos....he did 30 game benchmark

  • @Monius13
    @Monius13 4 роки тому

    Man, I'm so happy seeing this video!
    I chose 3700X (haven't got it yet, just browsing around for benchmarks while waiting xD )
    and after seeing this video, I have to say I'm not upset in the slightest!
    Even though other things beat it, it still holds its own and stays really close in some aspects to the competition, it seems like. even the 3900X
    I may upgrade later, but so far I'm loving what I see.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @markclendenin6114
    @markclendenin6114 5 років тому +6

    I think i have to upgrade my 2600 already! ;-p

    • @haoleboyguam
      @haoleboyguam 5 років тому

      lol ya, I just got the 2600x 2-3 months ago... and now this! That 3700x is looking pretty nice

  • @abhishekghosh6547
    @abhishekghosh6547 5 років тому +1

    Really man you work very hard for this video. Keep it up. 👍👍👍

  • @frosty9392
    @frosty9392 5 років тому +5

    but what color socks were you wearing?
    (i do appreciate the supe specific specs though lol)

  • @jimlong4208
    @jimlong4208 5 років тому

    For me I primarily use my main system to encode movies with HandBrake in H.265 10-bit using Intel QSV. Because of this, and only having a GTX 1070, I have been sticking with my Intel 8700K. What I would LOVE to see is how these Ryzen CPUs stack up against there Intel counterparts with Quick Sync enabled as one of the encoding metrics.

  • @intuneknight9681
    @intuneknight9681 5 років тому +3

    Good balance CPU, 100% workload and good for gaming plus save money with electricity AMD is balancing the game good bench.

  • @LaLiLuLeLoX
    @LaLiLuLeLoX 5 років тому +1

    What shall we call this Sunday!!? I've been watching AMD benchmark vids for like 2hrs now!! Good job AMD!! And thanks to all computer nerds for showing us all these benchmarks(Optimum Tech, Linus, Bitwit, etc)!! Cant wait to do an AMD build!!

  • @Czar1249
    @Czar1249 5 років тому +75

    Welcome to the top of the hill, AMD. *GIVE INTEL A SHOVE*

    • @buntspecht5180
      @buntspecht5180 5 років тому +3

      I hope so.
      One of my professors is a leading engineer for one of intels subsidiaries... i dont like him that much...
      Fuck Intel

    • @fgc-linux1650
      @fgc-linux1650 5 років тому +2

      Looking at the prices I'd say AMD Sparta kicked Intel off the hill.

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 5 років тому

      Just you wait. Intel expects to be rolling out 10nm in 2017... Oh wait🤣.

    • @tosiitii930
      @tosiitii930 5 років тому

      @@CheapBastard1988 yea your name makes sense

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 5 років тому

      @@tosiitii930 Idiot

  • @mondipedragosa2300
    @mondipedragosa2300 5 років тому +1

    I was amaze with the 3700X with this video. I might get one, thank you for this great review. :)

  • @linkspike
    @linkspike 5 років тому +4

    Absolute win for AMD !!!!! Thanks men !

  • @BAdventures
    @BAdventures 5 років тому

    Good detailed review and comparison. Impressive results using the Noctua 120mm air cooler 😎👍

  • @youp1tralala
    @youp1tralala 5 років тому +5

    You know a NDA has been lifted when there are 20 reviews of the same thing at the same time

  • @Shaxuul
    @Shaxuul 5 років тому

    Finally retired my old Sandy Bridge i5 2500K, with the Ryzen 3700X. Arrives in two days. Binge-watching these benchmark videos 'til it arrives! w00t

  • @mclaine33
    @mclaine33 5 років тому +11

    Holy shit. It absolutely dominates Intel. Wow Intel probably very worried now. They know AMD is real competition now.

    • @worztbeats8189
      @worztbeats8189 5 років тому

      And this benchmarks aren't in the new BIOS uptade, wich gives 30-50 general fps in games.

    • @Trafficker1985
      @Trafficker1985 5 років тому

      such wow

    • @weasle2904
      @weasle2904 5 років тому +3

      @@worztbeats8189 That was like one test with minimum framerates. Don't get too crazy

    • @shallpion
      @shallpion 5 років тому

      intel doesnt even bother lowering the price, lol.

  • @C_C-
    @C_C- 5 років тому

    That Fire Strike to Time Spy transition was smooth.

  • @etstudios
    @etstudios 5 років тому +147

    Consumers: "I'm getting one of those!"
    Intel: *Trying not to cry* " 10nm is coming soon...
    AMD: *Smirks*

    • @KOOLBOI2006
      @KOOLBOI2006 5 років тому +9

      mine was different.. I wanted 3900x, looked at the gaming benchmarks and showed the middle finger to AMD and stays with 9700k

    • @jradish
      @jradish 5 років тому +21

      @@KOOLBOI2006 well if you already had a 9700k, no reason to upgrade at all at least for a few more years anyways.

    • @comannorbert
      @comannorbert 5 років тому +3

      @@KOOLBOI2006 I have the i9 9900k and AMD on 7nm don't beat the gaming performance of Intel 14nm, fuck AMD!

    • @SansUndertale0
      @SansUndertale0 5 років тому +14

      I mean, if you have the money, go ahead! Whatever your wallet can afford. Some of us, however, are what you would consider “poor”. The new amd stuff is really, REALLY, good news. Lower prices, much higher productivity marks, it’s an obvious buy for most of us. I also don’t need a 5ghz overclock to easily achieve 144hz for gaming.

    • @ethan-fel
      @ethan-fel 5 років тому +14

      @@comannorbert until you start to stream :)

  • @prax3956
    @prax3956 5 років тому

    I don't know what it is about your videos Paul but the focus on the data and the way you discuss the results really flows well and is easily absorbed. I feel like some other tech-tubers could take a lesson from you on communicating clearly.
    Great work Paul!
    Best wishes for you and the family - pet the dogs for me plz

  • @dnsean03
    @dnsean03 5 років тому +4

    4.3ghz max manual oc on 1 CPU at 1.45v otherwise doesnt hit stated boost clocks just short.

    • @razoo911
      @razoo911 5 років тому

      there was a bios issue they fix it yesterday noe need less voltage and keep high clock

    • @dnsean03
      @dnsean03 5 років тому

      @@razoo911 but still doesnt overclock more than 4.3 gamer nexus comformed this did nothing

  • @theolamp5312
    @theolamp5312 5 років тому

    For anyone who is interested, Micro Center currently has the 2700X at $200. And, $30 off when purchased with a compatible motherboard. That's an absolute steal.

  • @eg12p34
    @eg12p34 5 років тому +4

    The 3700x is running insane performance for those power draw and temps results.

  • @villico3
    @villico3 5 років тому +1

    As always Paul, thank you for the great review! looking forward to the next one! thanks!

  • @combat.wombat
    @combat.wombat 5 років тому +15

    Need x370 vs x570 Ryzen 3000 comparison!

    • @NoemSis
      @NoemSis 5 років тому

      And B450 for me :D

    • @downwiththatsortofthing624
      @downwiththatsortofthing624 5 років тому

      BIOS is still an issue for X370, no trace of a proper BIOS upgrade from Asrock so far , but maybe other vendors are better?

    • @combat.wombat
      @combat.wombat 5 років тому

      @@downwiththatsortofthing624 gigabyte had theirs out a month ago for all x370

    • @Akkbar21
      @Akkbar21 5 років тому

      Seems I’d rather get a x370 to avoid the fan on X570

    • @KikoNihues
      @KikoNihues 5 років тому

      @@downwiththatsortofthing624 Both my B350 Asrock MB got updated already. Strange that x370 is late

  • @alexisv625
    @alexisv625 5 років тому

    Destruction time #4 Paul's Hardware
    1 hour already penetrated in several videos (and I still need to see several to comment) and continues the good run of seeing our dear analysts (in this case Paul) give us the good news in Ryzen and watch over the roots of tremendous generation blessed by Lisa Su. Great video.

  • @dongurudebro4579
    @dongurudebro4579 5 років тому +3

    Great to see AMD so close to Intel in gaming performance and sometimes even beating them, makes me excited for the future; just imagin what a Zen2+ or Zen3 could do!

    • @gndmartins
      @gndmartins 5 років тому +1

      imagine if intel goes 7nm

    • @heyitsmejm4792
      @heyitsmejm4792 5 років тому +1

      @@gndmartins like when? 2022? lol

    • @redbassboosz5222
      @redbassboosz5222 5 років тому

      @@gndmartins lol 7nm in 2023

    • @WotameIon
      @WotameIon 5 років тому

      Krass das man dich hier Findet :)
      Ich Überlege mir den 3700x zu gönnen. Ziemlich viel Leistung für wenig Geld wie ich finde. Würdest du es is sicherer finden noch ein bisschen abzuwarten ?

    • @dongurudebro4579
      @dongurudebro4579 5 років тому

      @@WotameIon Kommt drauf an für was?
      Für reines Gaming hat der Ryzen 2600 doch klar das bessere P/L
      In zwei Wochen werden dann die Preise sicher schon etwas gefallen sein, die Frage ist aber sowieso was du jetzt hast und ob du damit noch zufrieden bist.
      Der P/L mäßig beste Kauf ist sowieso Ryzen 1000 oder auch 2000

  • @norcaldad5983
    @norcaldad5983 5 років тому

    Your reviews carry more weight in my book, another great one, thank you. I built a Ryzen 5 2700x system 6 mo ago, and I am not sorry one bit. price to performance is where it’s at and that is always a focus in your reviews, thank you!

  • @Many_Mirrors
    @Many_Mirrors 5 років тому +7

    When your UA-cam feed is filled with Ryzen 3000 benchmarks and out of all of them you pick Paul's..

  • @techmasters4013
    @techmasters4013 5 років тому

    I think is important to mention that the tsmc 7nm silicon is kind of limited by the imposed amd locks so that i stays very efficient and because of that when one of the 3 locks is hit even if the other 2 are not, youre cpu will stop increasing the frequency and you hit that frequency wall. Here are the silicon frequency locks described on the anandtech article:
    "Package Power Tracking (PPT): The power threshold that is allowed to be delivered to the socket.
    This is 88W for 65W TDP processors, and 142W for 105W TDP processors.
    Thermal Design Current (TDC): The maximum amount of current delivered by the motherboard’s voltage regulators when under thermally constrained scenarios (high temperatures)
    This is 60A for 65W TDP processors, and 95A for 105W TDP processors.
    Electrical Design Current (EDC): This is the maximum amount of current at any instantaneous short period of time that can be delivered by the motherboard’s voltage regulators.
    This is 90A for 65W TDP processors, and 140A for 105W TDP processors."
    I think Intel has a way wider margin on those , and i think is one of the reasons why those intel cpus clock much higher but also draw much more juice , amd wanted those to be efficient , the vrms on x570 are way overdone for those power draw limits, also in terms of cooling wouldnt be a problem for some high end noctua cooler or good aio , but it doesnt matter since your locked by amd and that pbo it think doesnt really cross the power boundaries , or if it does is very limited %

  • @TooMuckinFuch17
    @TooMuckinFuch17 5 років тому +5

    "Wow, AMD, wow." -Paul

  • @Rohitechniq
    @Rohitechniq 5 років тому

    Just watched some other AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs review, your is by far the best. Thanks for your hard effort in making this review :)

  • @danielgrajeda5495
    @danielgrajeda5495 5 років тому +3

    I’m not the only one that say “Excellent” when it comes up right?😅

  • @zackw4941
    @zackw4941 5 років тому

    Great review! I am eager to see overclocking results. After you get some sleep, perhaps go into depth with thermals and cooling solutions and so on? I'm keen to finds out realistic overclocking targets for each chip, without going too crazy on cooling and to see where they all land next to each other with said overclocks. Thanks!

  • @Tenshu_Ireheart
    @Tenshu_Ireheart 5 років тому +3

    Why not use the 9700k instead of the 8700k? Seems a bit odd

    • @downwiththatsortofthing624
      @downwiththatsortofthing624 5 років тому +1

      No, I don;t think its that odd... It would gain some in Gaming, but loose even more heavily in everything else, as hyper-threading is switched off in hardware. So if he uses the 8700K people like you complain, but if he uses the 9700K, other whingers would complain he's not comparing core/threads... He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't!

    • @razoo911
      @razoo911 5 років тому

      9700k and 8700k are same chip only difference is stock clock

    • @downwiththatsortofthing624
      @downwiththatsortofthing624 5 років тому

      @@razoo911 Another idiot who can't read! No the main difference is hyper-threading!

  • @Cb7sohc
    @Cb7sohc 5 років тому

    Always great videos coming out of Paul’s channel. The pacing is good too

  • @ErnestJay88
    @ErnestJay88 5 років тому +13

    Unless you only play Rise of Tomb Raider for a life time, there is no reason for buy 9900k over ryzen 3900X or even 3700X that's far more cheaper.

    • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
      @DJHEADPHONENINJA 5 років тому +7

      What about the reason that 9900K still pushes the best FPS in all games, who cares about price.

    • @tuxnews2878
      @tuxnews2878 5 років тому +6

      @@DJHEADPHONENINJA Because it run at 400mhz more, and 5 fps for 400mhz for 200$ of difference +the fact that consume like a town and burn your house... well. Just useless intel chips. Look the reality noob

    • @cthulhu4606
      @cthulhu4606 5 років тому +6

      i9 9900k is better for gaming

    • @seamusbyrne8259
      @seamusbyrne8259 5 років тому +4

      @@cthulhu4606 barely tho. Is five percent worth it?

    • @cthulhu4606
      @cthulhu4606 5 років тому +1

      @@seamusbyrne8259 yes if you can afford it

  • @cerebralchaos93
    @cerebralchaos93 4 роки тому +1

    Love this vid. Wasnt sure whether to go for an i7 or R7 3700x. Definitely the Ryzen imo,

  • @Jeon1958able
    @Jeon1958able 5 років тому +11

    Why are all these reviewers doing benchmarks on the same games all of which are known to be heavily optimized for Intel?

    • @pramitkhanna7163
      @pramitkhanna7163 5 років тому +7

      Probably because it will show you how competitive the new Zen 2 CPUs are in the worst possible scenario. You can only get better from there so this is a good way of showing how well it does outside of its comfort zone.

    • @lilililiililliil7277
      @lilililiililliil7277 5 років тому

      Imagine loosing to a last gen i7 in gaming, YIKES. Okay I'm trolling, but AMD has def caught up to intel in gaming. Still not ahead, but the prices make intel not even look like an option. Also are any games optimized for amd? I don't think so. It's not even the games are optimized for intel, the infinity fabric is just shit, Disable smt and the results would look at lot better.

    • @lumbeeman01
      @lumbeeman01 5 років тому +1

      @@lilililiililliil7277 and things will only improve for AMD with updated drivers.

    • @lilililiililliil7277
      @lilililiililliil7277 5 років тому

      @@lumbeeman01 Yea I'm pretty excited. I'm hoping intel can deliver soon too. I like having options, but right now intel is legit NOT an option at current prices.

    • @spidey5292
      @spidey5292 5 років тому

      ummm....hello....kuz logic

  • @Oak_E
    @Oak_E 5 років тому +1

    Will you make a quick video where you watercool the new Ryzen CPUs and test their overclock stability and performance? This would be very interesting to see!

  • @jayibakumarra
    @jayibakumarra 5 років тому +4

    I've been an Intel fan for ever.... But.... I'm thinking .... Intel who???????

  • @arnoldnym2466
    @arnoldnym2466 5 років тому +1

    Very good review. Just a bit of a shame you didn't test more games since you chose notoriously Intel favored ones. Of course you had more than enough work with all the launches this week, so I completely understand.

    • @dankone3
      @dankone3 3 роки тому

      Lol what? “Notoriously intel favored ones”, out of those CPUs tested intel would come up on top in literally every game. Paul actually did amd a favor by testing less games, it wouldn’t have looked good to lose out in even more slides. Are you saying all games are intel favored lmao

  • @ties4281
    @ties4281 5 років тому +5

    Ah, I have money to spend and a 2012 i5 750 with GTX 670.
    Money’s gone.

  • @aaronkay2356
    @aaronkay2356 5 років тому

    That part introduction was quite the tongue twister. Wonder how many takes that took?

  • @MirelRC
    @MirelRC 5 років тому +4

    Yeah... Ryzen 4000 will bring a bit of refinement, and ryzen 5000, if intel will not gonna do something that really can beat amd, AMD will smack them.

    • @adamforslow9327
      @adamforslow9327 5 років тому +1

      MirelRc I doubt Intel will just stay silent and let AMD absorb the entire market. I hope Intel will one-up amd and release something amazing and keep this competition going we have right now

    • @MirelRC
      @MirelRC 5 років тому

      @@adamforslow9327 that's what I believe too.

  • @kennethhicks2113
    @kennethhicks2113 5 років тому

    Dude, best review I've seen for basic design considerations! GOOD JOB!

  • @dan2800
    @dan2800 5 років тому +3

    intel 9900k 322w 14nm
    amd 3700x 161w 7nm
    2x smaller tranis 2x less power consuption

    • @ps2232
      @ps2232 5 років тому

      Yea I'm not sure why but all 9 reviews I've seen seem to attribute the power saving to Amd architecture not Tsmc 7nm die shrink. to the point of major wowing over it and not even mentioning the die shrink at all. I mean its still yay Amd, just weird is all.