Volkswagen - Volkswagen Safety - Volkswagen Safety Research (1984)
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- The video illustrates the active and passive safety features built into all Volkswagen Transporter, Caravelle and LT models. The tests geographically illustrate the effects of crashes with stationery objects and other vehicles, and in roll over situations. The importance of wearing seatbelts is also clearly illustrated.
1984
1st generation LT (Typ 28/Typ 21)
Awesome video and channel.
I would like to see a modern over lap test on this i'm sure it would preform quite well based on the design
Once had a lady do a u turn in front of me while driving my orange 1984 T3 camper. I was doing about 50kmph. I braked, turned the van into her back door so the driver’s corner took the full force, closed my eyes, swore, and held on as her Merc wrapped around the front and we pushed her across the road onto the other side. My wife and I in the front, had seat belts and were fine. The two in the back didn’t and flew forward into our seats, but luckily apart from bad bruising were okay. Anything not tied down flew into the front, my wife was hit in the head by a torch, but the fittings in the van were fine. We lost both headlights and some body damage along the front. The Merc however was written off as it was twisted, but the lady got out with a cut finger from her shattered windows. A week later, the van was back on the road, all nice and shiny and we carried on our trip through Germany. The only change, the two in the back always wore there seat belts and I would go into a cold sweat when ever I had to pass a silver Merc parked on the side of a road. Lessons we learnt as shown in this video. Wear seatbelts, don’t leave stuff lying around and the VW could T-bone a Merc and still come away smiling. 😄
amazing story man
i was t boned in a scirocco
IM ALIVE hahah
Good story. Good to know everyone was ok.
And they say that mercs are indestructible...
Cool STORY bro 😂
@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 Actually they're designed to protect the passengers, which it did in this case. You'd prefer it go the other way around? Btw, nobody says that mercs are indestructible in accidents! If the rolls were switched, I'm sure the VW wouldn't be on the road and the people inside might have more than a cut finger.
Love how profesional and purly informative these old videos were.
A breath of fresh air for sure! They don't underestimate the viewer by overexplaining or by adding any gimmicks to "keep the viewer interested". You watch this because you're interested in the subject, so a no-nonsense approach works the best.
Nowadays many videos are like someone was telling you a story, but interrupted it time and time again to guarantee that it's an awesome yarn.
It is like a sci-fi documentary. The music, the tone of the speaker, the technology, everything speaks sci-fi.
Yes!!!!!
At 10:00 you get real spaceship vibes. The eerie, "futuristic" music, the aluminium foil all over the place...
Blade Runner. Replicant test dummies.
That American Monte Carlo collapsed like aluminum foil yikes!
From the 80s.
If ads were like this today, I wouldn't use any sort of adblocker...
Thats right
RIGHT??? Omg
I drove a 1983 VW Vanagon Westfalia with the 1.8 Water cooled engine and a 4 speed... I can assure you, on modern roads, that vehicle was anything but safe.
and I loved every minute of it
It was safe when it came out, today not so much.
Compared to the previous (T2 Kombi), this generation is a revelation in safety - much less how it compares to the _original_ Type 2 (T1 generation Kombi) from the 50s!
I don't think today's roads present a greater safety risk to vehicles from this era. In fact, modern roads are better.
Modern vehicles sharing the road, are also less of a risk factor. Increasingly, they have collision avoidance and other safety systems which all help to make driving an old car on contemporary roads, less of a problem than ever. 🙂
Unless of course we consider the stress and cost of repairs and pets after a collision in one of these old units. 😬
The soothing voice of the British narrator is very comforting as he assuages you that the vanagon is crash worthy. I'm sure a late model South African bus with ABS and airbags is a big step up. Nevertheless, I LOVE THE VANAGON!! Definitely an all time favorite. Drive cautiously and enjoy it!!!!!!!!!
I can confirm the safety of a VW Transporter is good (for the standards of that time). I crashed one with about 50 Km/h into a guardhouse. The front axle buckled up inside the floor in the cabin, but I kicked the door open and walked away unharmed. :)
What year Transporter ?
@@felipecardoza9967 It was a 1984 T3 :)
My God the music in this is just amazingggggg
11:08 Sounds like Depeche Mode.
@@P00katube Yup, sounds like their early stuff
Just imagine, you were intended to CRUSH the steering wheel with your body. Airbags really are amazing.
Hear The Crushing Steel
Feel The Steering Wheel
Grace, Jones.
@@A_Really_Nice_Guy Actually, it was The Normal, a one man band project of Daniel Miller.
they couldve at least added some shin guard on the steering wheel
The music in this video is sick.... I mean it literally is making me nauseous, got to love there early 80s UK informational videos
I understand why they chose the American car to rear-end... The body on chassis disign where the sturdy bumpers are attached to the chassis... Allows the higher ride VW to overrun the bumper and use the relatively soft trunk of the yank as a crumple-zone which softens the impact to the VW
The K70 is not a wankel engine car.
The VW K70 is not a wankel-engined car. The NSU Ro 80 was..
they also crashed volvo 740 with same result
They called the American car a "Limousine", which is odd.
@mipmipmipmipmip K70 = kolben, 70PS = 70hp piston engine. Ro80 = rotor, 80PS = 80hp rotory (Wankel) engine. The K70 and Ro80 were both NSU designs BTW.
I love the music.
herrgolf SAME. It's so eerie and clinical.
Someone found the speed control on the playback machine... :P
It's terrifyingly awesome
Ditto to that. 80's synth music always had an interesting tune and feel in it
Probably Kraftwerk.......
Крепкий. Много труда и времени вложено в разработку и доводку.
Remarkable how that van keeps it's original form, even after rolling down a steep hill. But I'm sure that the driver in it would still be dead from hitting the cabin several times with his head.
It's his head that stopped the roof caving in
@@brucehart4627 looooooool
@@bonkeydollocks1879 cool name donkey
why there are no more documentals like this today?
Cause Peaple that had made those documentaries are died on a ww van hahaha hahaha XD
@@brianmbara3663 no it's because no one that makes ads gives a shit. VW paid a lot of money for this documentary but today they don't want to pay money, they want to earn money
Because today there are less people that wants to know about cars.
Because today it's more important if the newest iPhone can connect to your car or its pseudo environmental friendly ... not how it drives or behaves in a crash ...
@@lucasono9948 sad
Very accurate, ive experienced it myself last year in june, when i was to overtaking somone in the middle lane from the autobahn, ive crashed in a T5 Van that was standing in the left lane from the autobahn, 1/3 on the left side 50kmh i did a perfect field crash test with my T3 Doka and survived with little to no harm physicaly, but 100% damage mentaly to my beloved bulli
Ze germans
The sounds and visual effects are the most 80's thing ever. Pretty cool doc though!
lovely de-interlacing, well done and smooth!
The analog Synth Sound effects make the footage so insanely dramatic, its hilarious!
I once had an accident in my mk 2 golf - diahatsu 4 track pulled out and wrote it off . The deformable Chassis worked beautifully , front corner was gone but the rest was excellent . That's why I still drive a golf .
Love the simple design of 80's Volkswagen!
She has a better crumple zone than many cheap vans and small trucks sold in Asian countries in 2022.
The scene of slamming Dummy's body against the steering wheel looks really painful. :(
Suzuki Every 660 left the chat..
china car the whole car is a crumple zone
Dobrze mi się prowadziło T3 i starego LTka. Naprawdę przemyślane samochody.
A jak sie tym zimą lata chlopieee
@@jacekbalcerzak5838 a jak sie prawidlowo formuluje pytanie ? baranie
10:00 -- The passenger seat breaks loose from its mountings on the left side and is only held in place by the right side. I can only imagine what would've happened at a much higher speed, or if they'd hit something that's not as soft as a Buick's trunk. If the seat fully broke off would the dummy have been sliced in half by the seatbelt?
Or if there were two passengers on the seat, which it was designed for. Why weren't they testing that, I wonder?
LT28 might have crumple zones and good seatbelts for the driver. And one passenger. The man in the midle will just have to hold his mouth closed so his guts do not fly out because of a lap belt.
9:10
So that’s how they came up with the AMC Gremlin’s design
May look that way but the Gremlin came out 14 years earlier in 1970 and they are pieces of junk cars. I Know because my first car was in 1985 when I was 15, was a 1970 Orange Gremlin with 3 speed manual, and don't try and enter the freeway you'll get run over. The one I had didn't even have a back seat or hatch just 2 doors 2 front seats and that's it. Not a babe magnet either
@@Fenncer24 r/woooosh
Back in the 70's I saw several VW minibuses catch fire and burn on side of the roads. Those magnesium rear engine blocks were fire hazards!
were those the beetle bug vans?
Yeah. My dad told me how their VW minibus and VW beetle in the Philippines caught on fire and explained how Volkswagen vehicles tend to catch on fire.
(If I remember correctly, he said that there was the distributor under the carburetor. If the carburetor was damaged or leaking, it would go to the distributor and cause a chemical/electrical reaction, thus, causing that fire).
Waterboxer engine block in T3 is made of aluminium not magnesium.
@@jaffaj23 Sure, but earlier in the '70s they were air-cooled magnesium blocks and quite prone to burning.
My statement was to ensure people didn't wrongly think the VW T25/T3/Vanagon/"Brick" had a magnesium engine block. They don't. Glad to clarify.
Unexpectedly good designs!
Reading the comments and seeing all the people sharing their T3 crash stories I feel like I have to tell mine too; well not 100% mine as I was only a couple years old and in the passenger seat but my mom was driving her VW T3 bus up the road and was blinded by the sun, she drove into another more modern car of which I don't remember the model and made it roll over its side into a ditch, the other car was completely twisted and totaled but lucky the airbags inflated and all the people involved where fine, where as to the VW T3 it was LITTERALY COMPLETELY and I say it again COMPLETLY unharmed, as I recall not even the front bumper had even a scratch on it and we drive our beloved bulli to this day
All these crash tests are done from the front for front shocks, something which unfortunately happens very rarely but rather on the front left or right side, and there the protection must be light! They never show that.
You'll probably wind up dead from G forces. . . But at least you won't be crushed by the car itself. Classic rock solid cars.
I wonder why those examples of crashed cars at the start of this video are mostly Audi?
Is it only me or these old videos really are more professional than current ones? They just feel more...well made? No BS? Something like that
Not really safety now is way higher especially for small overlap which never got tested since somewhere in 2000s
@@xPentag0n Yeah well I was talking about the quality of the video itself, the journalist and cameraman work and so on
@@Turbo_TechnoLogicOh yeah never mind I can't read 😅
@@xPentag0n Lol okay. Yeah the safety standards are ofc way higher now. Also the weight of the cars on the other hand
Que lindo ver los autos de esa época
From the time when Volkswagen served and had public recognition and respect. Now...
The rollover test was impressive on the kamper especially with what looked like a pop top roof
Well ... they rolled it in a way so that the roof barely even touches the ground ...
I wonder why the windshield got loose and flew away. Was it really attached that poorly?
Psychomusic. :D
Exactly XD
stfu it is fuckin good
@@jeppepedersen7006 nobody said it wasn't
Those crash test dummies are a lot bigger now to model the ‘average’ person today. 😎
how is the T3 doing in a side pole crash on the drivers side ? how in a small overlap crash on the front left side ?
Limousine hahahaha! I wrecked one of those vans in Germany when I hit black ice and left the road. It impacted the tree at the A pillar and I did not consider it to be a light injury, as the lower portion of the dash and my left kneecap occupied the same place at the same time.
Amazing upload quality. Thank you!
*excellent protection* also steering wheel: *ooh the inside of this test dummy chest looks like a good spot to rest!*
Excellent pronounciation of Volkswagen.🙂👌👊👍👏
GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO PRESENTATION!. Thanks for posting!
Poor K70. My parents drove one when I was a child. What a wonderful car it was!
NSU being taken over by VW saved VW. Before NSU, VW made old fashioned outdated cars.
K70 is THE car.
Yes, I had one in right-hand-drive. For a conventional car it had a few quirks.
Da época em que a Volkswagen prestava e tinha reconhecimento e respeito do público. Agora...
Love the music! Very Boards Of Canada. :-)
More like Depeche Mode
I always wondered if they would be safe in a crash. But you better not be hit by Transporter T3 in another car.
Love the interlaced PAL 25i !
1:43 - NO WAY could that driver stop normally in that short distance. In this case it's okay though: by the time the girl crosses in front of him it's gone from early afternoon to late afternoon - they must have both been going super slow!
yes i agree, unless it was a vw 🐱👍🏿
Damn. The Transporter was on the leading edge of safety. I wonder how it would fare on today's tests and standards.
AversaS it would get 1 star or maybe 0 stars
About as well as any vehicle from the '80s. A modern supermini - even a supermini from ten, fifteen years ago - would tear right through this thing.
It would not. Strong by the standards of the 1980s is extremely weak by today's standards. High strength, cold formed steel just didn't exist back then, not to mention the advances in the engineering department.
Case in point, take a look at this video of an old Volvo crashing into a modern supermini:
ua-cam.com/video/emtLLvXrrFs/v-deo.html
It's not been debunked. The video was earnest, many commenters on the other hand are a bunch of paranoid Volvo fans who can not and never will accept that old cars are worse than new ones in virtually every respect (but especially in regards to safety, reliability and economy), especially not old cars they like. The car did not have rust on structural parts, the engine was present (see the red engine block, which is clearly visible in multiple shots) and the overall misunderstanding car engineering on display is staggering. Do they, do you honestly believe that engineers have been twiddling their thumbs since then? Do you think are car with such an abysmal structural integrity would be even legal to sell today? The same kind of nonsensical conspiratorial thinking was present with the famous crash test video of an old Chevrolet against a new one, by the way.
no1DdC that car has no engine in it. case closed.. T3 wins! :-D
It would have been interesting to see the 75 kph test into a solid wall, not a movable vehicle. Or maybe better not seen.
"The deformation of the interior did not endanger the passengers"
The instant deceleration from 50 to 0 however... forget it, just buy Volkswagen already!
old tests were performed with "only" 36km/h so....fuck it, buy the damn thing
A T3 is a death trap by today's standards, but when this was made in 1984, the T3 was the safest van on the market.
October 8, 2018 12:50 am
after the accident you are able t to see the entire frame of the american vehicle
@@whattheheck1000 It's still one of the best.
@@Papasanchez440 if you can get the f****** s*** box up to 36 km per
6:56 is a K70!!
No wonder there aren't many left...VW crash-tested all of them!
@@RoadCone411 killed by passat
Old Vw is perfect 😘😘
how about the side pole crash on the drivers door and a small overlap crash on the drivers side ?
Overlap crash tests weren’t really done back in the 1980s, most crash tests of that era used full frontal crash tests like the ones seen here. The IIHS who conducts crash tests in the US didn’t add small overlap tests to their battery of tests until 2012
Looks like the steering kind of folds up and impales the Crash dummy in the chest on every hit
Mighty impressive considering the year. However, a VW Golf of the same era would not fare as well.
Why not?
@@Endfloat check out Golf 2 crash test video
@@rafi22000 VW GOLF IS THE TANK FOR CIVILIANS
@:24 I love that green Dasher!🏁
Most of the cars on a highway travel 100 or 120 Km/h.
50 or 75 km/h is not enough to make a crash test.
Physics set limits for crash safety. You can't run into something at 120 kmh and expect the manufacfurer to make you survive.
You obviously haven't driven a European van of that era. 100km/h is uncomfortable, 120km/h is unreachable. Still awesome though.
@@celeron55 I would add 10 kilometers to your guess but yes.
@@kennysboat4432
Depends on the version but our old T3 Diesel with 50HP had a Topspeed of 105km/h. So 100km/h is pretty much a good speed.
Good to see VW built some safety into their Kombis in 1984, well after they were pretty much driven out of the market by Japanese vans e.g., Toyota.
I've seen a few of these german road safety films from the 70s and 80s and I've discovered -
1 . The Germans are really weird people.
2 . They love smashing thing up .
3 . But they make excellent motor vehicles - that's why I drive a golf . A previous golf I had got written of by an errant land cruiser and the crumple zones were amazingly good .
4. They love their 80's synthesizer music groups. The last musical piece sounds like Depeche Mode.
I rented a Golf GTI and drove through the Netherlands and Germany. Putting on the radio in Germany they do love their 80’s synth/techno. Even today.
i co złomnik gadasz za głupoty że t3 niebezpieczne
Sporo osób musiało sprawdzić :D
Ostatnio nowy yaris wjechał mi w dupke....yaris rozpruty po całości, t3.
..stluczona lampa i zagnieciony zderzak😂 t3 to czołg
Złomnik pierdoli jak pojebany, jazda z nim
Te testy Volkswagena tak wiarygodne jak emisja spalin TDI .Pracowałem na autolawecie kilka lat i widziałem skutki wypadków ''bolidów'' typu VWT3 , Suzuki Carry czy temu podobne . Podobnie jak niby bezpieczna konstrukcja SMARTA czy Saab 900 lub Volvo 740 ....URBAN LEGEND i worki foliowe lub LPR jak jest jeszcze szansa
well the last LT's a pillar snapped and the roof was destroyed bad one to end with but otherwisw great video
these clips are awesome. no doubt. but i have to admit that i find the background music unspeakably annoying 🤣 (but that was the synthy 80s)
I love the sound effects on the video😂 80's...
The real death traps of the era were those Japanese cab over wheels vans (Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi)
All due respect considering it was the 1980's and at least they did something. All those cars seem like death traps. And we all know how legit VW lab test are conducted by now.
5 years ago i had an accident at 70km/h. i crashed into a car in front of me and took about 4 cars in the rear. all of the others disappeared halfpart into dust, my 1988 vw is still running. i just had to replace the whole front and the rear bumper. yes i know that if the wohle accident would have happened with vw transporters only, we all would be dead, because the transporter is litterally constructed like a brick.
Love the frightening, weird music going along with crashes...
I'm looking at the cab deformation in the crash test at 50 kph. That's a total fail in modern NHTSA tests.
Quite funny watching this nowadays considering all the further improvements. Especially with them arguing that the lack of the crumple zone or distance at the front is not a problem 👀
3:10 so the El Caminos have been ex- crashtest-cars?
Vw t3 the best 👌🏼🇩🇿
تحيا golf
@@moha04 golf 3 90's 1.9 🔥
@@unesadv94 😍😍😍😍
@@moha04
The mk4 is childhood zone
Golf
Aún hoy, el Volkswagen Up! , El más chico, tiene 5 estrellas en seguridad.
Time when road cars was best Quality ever.
what quality
@@talexandros4151
1 million kilometer engine without any problem quality.
@@автоигорёкместный does that oilburner use any gas,or actually can you just use diesel for both fuel and lubrication?.
And the time when more people died because of less safety features...
Aus der Zeit, als Volkswagen öffentliche Anerkennung und Respekt genoss. Jetzt...
how did they get the soundtrack from a literal nightmare?
They should have done the test a few years later on to see how all those rusty floors performed ☺️
Same with todays cars hehe
@@antonioederlopezlopez7341 err no hehe
Safe or not, having a T3 regular cab transporter would be perfect.
Thanks Volkswagen
8:50 - Limousine? That was a bog standard passenger sedan of the era. There's no dummies in the back, either - making the results totally different to an impact with a limo.
Nice! Like a tank, I feel that way in my classic bug.
except my uncle was a firefighter and pretty much every front crash with a vw bug the passengers died and he had to use hydralic pliers to free them
Rex Jolles man that’s grim, but i guess the roof and posts are weak as hell
An ‘American limousine’ at 8:47. A Buick Regal.
6:39 the crash test of the same speed looks less safe , I bet that because they removed the door and the strut inside the door is missing, it made a big difference in the rigidity of the van.
The amount of damage vw has done to other cars 😂 jesus like a tank
deutsche gut gemacht! :D
Ben Crosbie lolzz
wow 60fps video, i love this channel
My parents owned TWO T-3 Vanagons (Campmobile conversions) and like all VW vans, they were suicide in a front-end collision scenario. My current T-4 transverse I-5 engined Weekender isn't much better, the engine/transaxle will rollup under the seats with your legs and they'll call you "Stubby" after they cut you out. The floorpan of Vee-Dubs has always been a weakness in a crash, you just accept if you buy a VW van/transporter/wagon from the beginning of production. Sprinters and Ram Vans and Nissans have the below-the floor engine and a real frame and nearly triple the mass of steel in them. Funny how the US won't allow VW to import the T-5, ain't it???
Its not that the US doesn’t allow them to import the T-5, its that the T-4 had poor sales in the US market and VW didn’t want to take the financial risk of selling a car that the public didn’t want. That’s starting to change now though with VW offering their new electric van in the US.
Oh stop! Stop crashing those lovely buses!
I love this car !
Those vans are extremely tough for their time
The US Army in Europe put those vans through hell, but they held up fine. I personally ramped one accidentally off-road checking on the railhead; all four tires left the ground at about 50 km/h and other than a headache, there was no damage to the van, me, or my passenger.
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Are they crashing used cars? The undercarriages look filthy and I think I even saw some rust around the door frames?
The Volkswagen is a tank.
That van completely drove over the bumper... of course it's going to crush the trunk...
Gabriel A. Seperate chassis is the reason the VW rode up. Its scary. 5th gear did a test crashing a Renault MPV v Discovery. The Renault rode up the seperate chassis. Bigger Land Rover came of worse. It's on youtube.
On the other hand, that's what it would do in the real world so it's completely realistic.
Still, it's bloody scary that piece of tin crumpling just the same. Looks like the car's fuel tank was empty to avoid a Pinto-like fireball!
ich kann mich an die adac tests damals noch gut erinnern
i love how the windows always fall out
And cause serious injury
@@Morzsaszar No, they didn't. Because of their desintegration in very small pieces.
7:03 1984 als der RO80 einfach nur ein altes Auto war
[edit: das ist ja ein K70 ... hoppla!]
oh no, the k 7 0 , it's a tank but ugly, i prefer the R0 80
They learned a lot from the fragility of the Type 1 Splits and Bays…
All of these comments on how safe the van is.... holy crap 50kph isn't very fast and the thing is crushing the passenger space..... That isn't safe at all.