I know you a professional mechanic and electricians, once I saw this video by you I'm moved to stop by and learn from you. I yearn to be like you sir. ❤❤❤
Another great video always like the way you find and repair without running to the parts department. I was thinking could you have found their issue sooner when using easy start? Just a thought. Again great video
Have one with the same fault outside... guess who won't have to muck about fault finding it on a monday morning... just a throttle body clean so. :-) Thank you LM.
@@LMAutoRepairs I was wondering "WTF is up with this? No codes, looks spotless, Eh?" Then your vid popped up - very timely. Bet you cursed taking that ecu apart. :-) The effort of putting stuff back together that wasn't needed removed - worst sort of work to have to do.
@jamesward5721 ☺️ It is not funny when you go the wrong way, only to go back on a different route... But, it is what it is... Cursing kinda helps...😅 👍
Good find. This motor - Z 13 DTH on all 2006-2014 Corsa D is electronic throttle control( ETC ). This engine is old Z 13 DTH and WAS used in ASTRA H - in ASTRA H it's the vacuum valve like here. This here engine in the Corsa is from Astra H.
I had the same issue many years ago with my Corsa. After work the car would only crank but not start. RAC man arrived within about 30mins. He had a good idea what it could be. Hit the EGR valve with a hammer a few times to close it, unplugged it. Engine light came on but it got me home and down to the garage for repairs later that week.
that multijet 1.3 motors are very popular here in my country (Turkey) exactly on fiat& opel cars.this is the common problem egr system and intake manifold must clean from diesel gunk in every 80k km because of low quality diesel fuel
Great video, tell me, my opel cirsa d 1.4 does the same thing but after it start I can drive 10kilos then it shut down and cranks not start, after a while it start but cannot driver above 20 kilos and did diagnosis to clear the fault codes but they appear soon as you drive, is it on limp mode or what could it be?
I'm having the same problem, but my model is 2006 and I don't have a throttle body at all, do you have any advice It's unbelievable that it's an identical problem, I was really happy when I watched the clip, when he sees miracles I go to look but there is none, the intake pipe goes directly to the intake manifold.
Bom Dia so tens um Par de Olhos toma conta deles, Basicle this what we get because not been service properly and then with a water flooding problem we start to chase our tale excellent job well-done greetings from Ukraine
good morning Luis is there any sensors or not on that valve throttle body that should have had a red number on the autel for out of range good catch on maf anyway
No sensors as you will need able to see when I dismantled it... Should have some sort of position sensor or similar... Unfortunately it is just a mechanical flap vacuum actuated... 👍👍👍
@@LMAutoRepairs havent worked on many cant remember. on taking it off you may have left sensor in engine bay ? like you say its only a kill flap a good lesson. thanks. one to keep an eye on
Great job as always . . Please can you do me a Christmas favour haha . I did a injector leak of test for 1.5 mins idle . The car runs fine but I am not have with the results . Please may I send a attachment of the results. Cylinder 1 it 20 ml more thank you. Cylinder 1 is approximately 84 ml cylinder 2 is 74ml cylinder 3 is 61ml cylinder 4 is 63ml . . Car is running ok but from my understanding from a cold or warm start I should be recieving a minimal amount in each four cylinders . Please can you enlighten me . Ooooo and have a great Christmas. Keep up the amazing work
Hi If the difference leaked by that one injector is too greater than the other ones, could be an indication that that particular injector is on it's way... you can as preventive maintenance, have it reconditioned or replaced, but to be honest, I would worry too much if the car is running with no problems... The only thing that could be happening is the HP pump work a but harder to maintain the pressure... 👍👍👍
@LMAutoRepairs thanks for the reply . Just I would of expected to see 20/30 ml in each cup after 2 minutes of engine idle not the amount I was getting . Like I say the car runs fine no hard starting ect . But the leak of seems to me to be excessive would you agree? . Or or the 1.3 cdti A13DTC like this ? . Much appreciated for you time to answer my questions thank you .
Hi mate . Just a update . I scanned ECU and found the codes for all 4 injectors . So reset and re coded after writing the ECU codes for each cylinder After many failed attempts I couldn't program cylinder one . . So I just ject on top of the injector it was a complete different code . After writing the new code and taking the car for a run to warm up I re did the leak off test minutes 3.30s of leak off time 40ml cylinder 1 48.5 cylinder 2 42 cylinder 3 and 40 cylinder 4 . So I was pleased with that. I then took all injectors out and stripped the completely down and cleaned with brake cleaner and carb cleaner and toothbrush . I soaked in diesel for 5 mins sprayed wd40 equivalent and excellent spray pattern . . Re built re fitted and car is a lot better . Omhs test was good on all solenoids so IAM a happy man . . Thanks for info . Hope ya had a good Christmas. O ye I just cleaned throttle body yesterday aswell as I just seen your video . Mine wasn't experiencing problems just thought I missed well to keep things in order . Take care your a great mechanic Il be raising my ECU next when it gets warmer for now I just make sure holes are clear. Take it easy mate. O ye next timing chain and probably valve stem seals that will be fun. Ovisually when the weather is a lot warmer haha
Luis it is perfect like always, I have same engine on my wife suzuki. I have an Xtool instead of Autel but looks like the diag SW is exactly same... how does it possible? Why I am using Opel diag SW instead of Suzuki because the Suzuki diag SW is 100% useless while the Opel diag SW shows all sensors etc... Same controller and Suzuki I guess bought it from Opel directly... some kind of joint venture project like we can see it nowadays also. was it with DPF mounted? Thanks to god my engine runs now perfectly but I had lots of sucks with it in spring at 190 000 km... EGR cleaning, Glow plugs defect, Turbo exchange and DPF echange as it was not possible to clean it anymore 100% clogged... after a 133€ DPF from Autodoc solved all issues and it runs now perfectly. Thanks to you and other enthusiestic YT teachers I could do it on my own all repairs so cost really not much at the end :) And I learned a lot about my car... make no sense to sell it anymore....
Not sure if that valve/flap shuts slightly to help pull the EGR gases through as well Louis. I know it does on some of the VAG group. Good find though Louis ☺️👌
Thinking further about it, without a position sensor on the valve, which this one didn't have, would be a big tricky for the ecu to know how yo actuate the vacuum solenoid to position the valve correctly.... 🤔
During the works you did on the car, did you noticed any error codes when disconnecting components? It's very strange the ecu didn't had ANY errors present... When I see stuff like that my first thought is a remap done by some genius...some of them have the bad habit of removing the coding for errors...
This valve will stop the engine from getting a feed of air in case the turbo fails this was something most modern engines should have fitted a long time ago.
Ez téves megállapítás. Motorfék állapotában növeli annak hatásfokát, valamint a leállítas lágyabb lesz azáltal, hogy elzárja a levegő útját. Kissebb a motor billenése amikor léáll.
☺️ Actually, the E60 M5 has only 2 electric throttle body actuators, one for each bank... But yes, there is 10 valves, each 5 actuated by one electronic actuator... 👍👍👍
had same problem with my 1.3cdti turns out it was the fuel pump relay some days would start other days would flatten battery before starting, took to auto electrition and was £10 relay.
Not in this case... that flap was the problem.... In some cars, and on this one as well, a stuck open EGR can cause a crank no start, and that was why I was considering it at some point... But in this case was not the EGR, as you might have seen on the video... 👍👍👍👍
On some of these cars the vehicle will not start due to starter motor speed there was a tsb on it approx 250rpm normal 300rpm if stopstart ecm would think engine running due to higher cranking speed so starting prota call ignored engine will not start and can be intermittent providing all injectors and crank sensor test fine eta hope that helps for future help there will be no codes in ecm
I know you a professional mechanic and electricians, once I saw this video by you I'm moved to stop by and learn from you. I yearn to be like you sir. ❤❤❤
its amazing how you are dealing with such misleading symptoms Luis, great work once more!!!
It is challenging sometimes!
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Well done, intermittent faults are always very difficult to diagnose but you just never give up 👍😀
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Superb Diagnosis and no parts bought 👍👍👍
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Absolutely Brilliant - I was guessing all along - but NEVER suspected that !!
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Me neither! LoL
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Fantastic diagnosis you had notting to go on but you persisted with it and got it going well done Luis
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Excellent...home mechanics can enjoy cleaning throttle bottle egr valve, map and maf sensors. All keep the engine running efficiently.
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Another good job .so annoying when you get no trouble codes .takes a lot longer to sort out well done
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Eres un ckak me veo todos tus videos sustitulados por que no domino mucho el inglés pero me encantan y me ayudan dia a dia un fuerte abrazo compañero
Another great video always like the way you find and repair without running to the parts department. I was thinking could you have found their issue sooner when using easy start? Just a thought. Again great video
The parts cannon can become very expensive very quickly!
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Have one with the same fault outside... guess who won't have to muck about fault finding it on a monday morning... just a throttle body clean so. :-) Thank you LM.
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Hope it is the same fault!
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@@LMAutoRepairs It is - 100%. :-) No codes - random, same same.
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@@LMAutoRepairs I was wondering "WTF is up with this? No codes, looks spotless, Eh?" Then your vid popped up - very timely. Bet you cursed taking that ecu apart. :-) The effort of putting stuff back together that wasn't needed removed - worst sort of work to have to do.
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It is not funny when you go the wrong way, only to go back on a different route...
But, it is what it is...
Cursing kinda helps...😅
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Good find. This motor - Z 13 DTH on all 2006-2014 Corsa D is electronic throttle control( ETC ). This engine is old Z 13 DTH and WAS used in ASTRA H - in ASTRA H it's the vacuum valve like here. This here engine in the Corsa is from Astra H.
Thanks!
I had the same issue many years ago with my Corsa. After work the car would only crank but not start. RAC man arrived within about 30mins. He had a good idea what it could be. Hit the EGR valve with a hammer a few times to close it, unplugged it. Engine light came on but it got me home and down to the garage for repairs later that week.
Yes... EGR on some cars will cause also a crank no start... that's why I was considering it at some point...
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that multijet 1.3 motors are very popular here in my country (Turkey) exactly on fiat& opel cars.this is the common problem egr system and intake manifold must clean from diesel gunk in every 80k km because of low quality diesel fuel
Great video, tell me, my opel cirsa d 1.4 does the same thing but after it start I can drive 10kilos then it shut down and cranks not start, after a while it start but cannot driver above 20 kilos and did diagnosis to clear the fault codes but they appear soon as you drive, is it on limp mode or what could it be?
Share the fault codes would be helpful to have a better understanding of what my be happening...
Otherwise is pure guess work...
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Fault codes p0113, p0104
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OK, does are for intake air tem and air flow...
Does the live data confirms numbers out of range?
I'm having the same problem, but my model is 2006 and I don't have a throttle body at all, do you have any advice
It's unbelievable that it's an identical problem, I was really happy when I watched the clip, when he sees miracles I go to look but there is none, the intake pipe goes directly to the intake manifold.
Scan the car and check live data...
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great work as always👍
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Bom Dia so tens um Par de Olhos toma conta deles, Basicle this what we get because not been service properly and then with a water flooding problem we start to chase our tale excellent job well-done greetings from Ukraine
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Obrigado!
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Bom trabalho e foi um grande investigacao crimnal 😂de peca em falha..cheers bro
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Sim foi!
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This happened to me with my lovely TDI ALH, the asv stuck closed and the car just cranking and no start.
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screen there's a Bolt undone looks timing cover looks like. When u was looking at the glow plugs
Never noticed at the time... looks like someone left it undone...
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Superb job, Luis - ofcoursa!👌🏼
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good morning Luis is there any sensors or not on that valve throttle body that should have had a red number on the autel for out of range good catch on maf anyway
No sensors as you will need able to see when I dismantled it...
Should have some sort of position sensor or similar...
Unfortunately it is just a mechanical flap vacuum actuated...
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@@LMAutoRepairs havent worked on many cant remember. on taking it off you may have left sensor in engine bay ? like you say its only a kill flap a good lesson. thanks. one to keep an eye on
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Great job as always . .
Please can you do me a Christmas favour haha . I did a injector leak of test for 1.5 mins idle . The car runs fine but I am not have with the results . Please may I send a attachment of the results. Cylinder 1 it 20 ml more thank you. Cylinder 1 is approximately 84 ml cylinder 2 is 74ml cylinder 3 is 61ml cylinder 4 is 63ml . . Car is running ok but from my understanding from a cold or warm start I should be recieving a minimal amount in each four cylinders . Please can you enlighten me . Ooooo and have a great Christmas. Keep up the amazing work
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If the difference leaked by that one injector is too greater than the other ones, could be an indication that that particular injector is on it's way... you can as preventive maintenance, have it reconditioned or replaced, but to be honest, I would worry too much if the car is running with no problems...
The only thing that could be happening is the HP pump work a but harder to maintain the pressure...
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@LMAutoRepairs thanks for the reply . Just I would of expected to see 20/30 ml in each cup after 2 minutes of engine idle not the amount I was getting . Like I say the car runs fine no hard starting ect . But the leak of seems to me to be excessive would you agree? . Or or the 1.3 cdti A13DTC like this ? . Much appreciated for you time to answer my questions thank you .
Hi mate . Just a update . I scanned ECU and found the codes for all 4 injectors . So reset and re coded after writing the ECU codes for each cylinder
After many failed attempts I couldn't program cylinder one . . So I just ject on top of the injector it was a complete different code . After writing the new code and taking the car for a run to warm up I re did the leak off test minutes 3.30s of leak off time 40ml cylinder 1 48.5 cylinder 2 42 cylinder 3 and 40 cylinder 4 . So I was pleased with that.
I then took all injectors out and stripped the completely down and cleaned with brake cleaner and carb cleaner and toothbrush . I soaked in diesel for 5 mins sprayed wd40 equivalent and excellent spray pattern . . Re built re fitted and car is a lot better . Omhs test was good on all solenoids so IAM a happy man . . Thanks for info . Hope ya had a good Christmas. O ye I just cleaned throttle body yesterday aswell as I just seen your video . Mine wasn't experiencing problems just thought I missed well to keep things in order . Take care your a great mechanic
Il be raising my ECU next when it gets warmer for now I just make sure holes are clear.
Take it easy mate. O ye next timing chain and probably valve stem seals that will be fun. Ovisually when the weather is a lot warmer haha
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Excellent video thanks for sharing
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Luis it is perfect like always, I have same engine on my wife suzuki. I have an Xtool instead of Autel but looks like the diag SW is exactly same... how does it possible? Why I am using Opel diag SW instead of Suzuki because the Suzuki diag SW is 100% useless while the Opel diag SW shows all sensors etc... Same controller and Suzuki I guess bought it from Opel directly... some kind of joint venture project like we can see it nowadays also. was it with DPF mounted? Thanks to god my engine runs now perfectly but I had lots of sucks with it in spring at 190 000 km... EGR cleaning, Glow plugs defect, Turbo exchange and DPF echange as it was not possible to clean it anymore 100% clogged... after a 133€ DPF from Autodoc solved all issues and it runs now perfectly. Thanks to you and other enthusiestic YT teachers I could do it on my own all repairs so cost really not much at the end :) And I learned a lot about my car... make no sense to sell it anymore....
That's great!
Good to know my videos have helped you!
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What type of silicone is used to seal ECU
I use black sealant... similar to the sealant used to glue windscreens...
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Not sure if that valve/flap shuts slightly to help pull the EGR gases through as well Louis.
I know it does on some of the VAG group.
Good find though Louis ☺️👌
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Possibly...
That's a good point!
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Thinking further about it, without a position sensor on the valve, which this one didn't have, would be a big tricky for the ecu to know how yo actuate the vacuum solenoid to position the valve correctly....
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Very true! Unless it used the MAF readings.
But because it's not a stepper motor and only vacuum control your probably right. @@LMAutoRepairs
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Great work
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Great work as always you went above and beyond dealt with issues without plsying that part darts game . First time fix
That's what I always strive to do...
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During the works you did on the car, did you noticed any error codes when disconnecting components? It's very strange the ecu didn't had ANY errors present... When I see stuff like that my first thought is a remap done by some genius...some of them have the bad habit of removing the coding for errors...
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Excelente trabalho
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This valve will stop the engine from getting a feed of air in case the turbo fails this was something most modern engines should have fitted a long time ago.
Ez téves megállapítás. Motorfék állapotában növeli annak hatásfokát, valamint a leállítas lágyabb lesz azáltal, hogy elzárja a levegő útját. Kissebb a motor billenése amikor léáll.
Hi Luis can you tell me the name of your scan tool please because I’m thinking about getting one
On this video, I was using the MS908P from Autel...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thank you luis
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I heard BMWs have electronic throttle valves in case the valvetronic fails. WHY THE E60 M5 HAVE 10 Throttle valves🤭 🤔🤨
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Actually, the E60 M5 has only 2 electric throttle body actuators, one for each bank...
But yes, there is 10 valves, each 5 actuated by one electronic actuator...
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had same problem with my 1.3cdti turns out it was the fuel pump relay some days would start other days would flatten battery before starting, took to auto electrition and was £10 relay.
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Crank sensor
Watch the video untill the end...😉
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It's a lie, you won't say a real malfunction, the EGR valve is stuck there, the flap is not a problem.
Not in this case... that flap was the problem....
In some cars, and on this one as well, a stuck open EGR can cause a crank no start, and that was why I was considering it at some point...
But in this case was not the EGR, as you might have seen on the video...
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Calm down! It's a fake video! Didn't you noticed it wasn't even the same car?! He changed cars 😂
@@alexdragomirescu5084 Throttle valve sticking closed is a known problem on these engines. So you are the one that needed to calm down 🤣🤣
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@@SalvageMasterEssex I was being sarcastic to the guy who wrote the first comment.......
Please shorter videoo
If the issue was easier to find, it would have been shorter... it takes what it takes...
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On some of these cars the vehicle will not start due to starter motor speed there was a tsb on it approx 250rpm normal 300rpm if stopstart ecm would think engine running due to higher cranking speed so starting prota call ignored engine will not start and can be intermittent providing all injectors and crank sensor test fine eta hope that helps for future help there will be no codes in ecm
Yes... that's correct!
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one worst engines made i always stay clear them
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