The Simple Reason Why Nobody Could Defeat Napoleon - Thoughty2 Reaction
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I will never be able to unhear "My kids refer to moms as spawn points now."
"Did you bring your spawn point with you?"
Chris: No more Napoleon for now
also Chris: Enjoy this triple length Napoleon video
yeah. but i love learning more about napoleon lol
“Stay away from Napoleon for awhile”? Say it isn’t so! Thoughty2 is awesome though.
Yeah I love him as a UA-camr and he also shares the same name as one of my family members!
I feel like if they didn’t half-ass the movie we’d be watching “VTH reacts to ‘Napoleons Marshals’ by Epic History.”
Was that supposed to rhyme?
A great UA-camr reacting to another great UA-camr. Life is good.
This might be my favorite '''collaboration'' on UA-cam. Thoughty2 is great channel and it has many history related videos you should watch. Great reaction video, as always Chris
Not so sure about an hour and ten minute video to point out the few flaws in a 36 minute video?
Sorry, won't be subscribing.
@@1crazypjI will never understand people who comment stuff like this. Like your individual subscription matters at all. It’s just mind boggling to me
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I know it doesn't really matter for one person not to subscribe but four hundred and sixty thousand plus subscribers are all composed of individuals, unless of course some bot is making fake subscriptions?
I was going to expand this reply but decided there really was no point.
@@1crazypjwatching a passionate dude comment on a historical video is much easier to watch at least in my case. Its like sports commentary, it adds entertainment value even if the input isn’t sensational (except this channel does add good input most times)
@@tcgggggI remember hearing a long time ago, no one ever put up a statue to celebrate a critic
Speaking of Napoleon's brother-in-law Joachim Murat, his son Achille Murat is buried here in Tallahassee. Achille married a great-niece of Martha Washington. One of their houses still exists at an outdoor museum. Prince Achille Murat was known as a very eccentric individual. Another of his houses still exists in St. Augustine.
Here's a great write up on Achille shannonselin.com/2016/06/achille-murat-prince-tallahassee/
@@VloggingThroughHistory thanks! Yes, Achille really didn't have much of a military career other that Captain of the local militia company. Although he did have a fort named after him during the 2nd Seminole war, which was probably on his plantation land. Not far from James Gadsden's plantation as well.
Thoughty2 is one of my favorite creators, he always has a level of personality and depth on topics that is exceedingly rare.
Chris reacting to Thoughty2 is literally the combining of my 2 favorite channels!
ya, thats all fine, but thoughty2 is often wrong or give alot of misinformation... this video is ok, but there is missing alot..
hahahahahahahahaha hes one of THE worst
@@donkarnage6986 correct hes wrong in a lot of things hahaha i think its just the charisma of his voice. but boy i cant finish one video because of all the errors
Hey Chris, You should read about Marshal Davout. The dude is literally the Stannis Baratheon of real life. Never smiled, made enemies wherever he went, and literally called “The Iron Marshal” for his constant steely disposition and legendary military discipline. He was the only Napoleonic Marshal who didn’t give himself to loot, and the only Napoleonic Marshal, aside from Lefebvre, who remained completely loyal to Napoleon from his ascension to the Consulship to his final exile in 1815. He was Minister for War during the Hundred Days, and he would’ve certainly helped Napoleon prevail if he was given command of the 33,000 men sent to pursue the Prussians, not Marshal Grouchy.
He led the decisive action at Austerlitz and defeated the entire Prussian Army with a single corps. He was blamed for Marshal Ney’s cutoff and corps destruction but it literally wasn’t his fault at all, Napoleon had outstretched his army. Marshal Davout is one of the only Marshals to remain completely undefeated in his entire military career, and one of the only ones to be able to hold competent INDEPENDENT military command. There’s also a small saga where the Poles wanted him to be King of Poland while he was there for a little bit. At the Battle of Eylau, he pressured the Russians which led to their abandonment of their defensive line.
Marshal Davout is simply the best marshal, militarily and economically, and despite being the youngest marshal and constantly ridiculed he remained loyal to Napoleon, even when Davout’s own popularity soared and Napoleon felt threatened that he had to bring him down a peg.
SPOILERS FOR EPIC HISTORY TV'S NAPOLEONIC MARSHALS SERIES
He is featured prominently in Epic History’s Marshals series, he is ranked as THE BEST by their professional opinion.
You talk about stannis, you got my like man
@@emilepelletier1555 Stannis the Mannis!
Well said. Chris HAS to react to Epic History's Napoleons Marshals series before taking his break from Napoleon content. That series is in my opinion one of the best historical series on UA-cam if not even the best.
And....he was the life of the party with a few under his belt😅
dude spoilers. censored that last one. it takes away the suprise
I’ve been a fan of Thoughty2 for a while. I never really considered them a history channel, at least not in the traditional sense. When I saw his Napoleon video release I thought of you. lol. Thanks so much for covering this one. Your commentary and insights made it even more interesting than the first watch.
8:25 I can also confirm how quickly kids can pick up different languages. When I was in elementary school, my parents decided to finish their college degrees and we moved into an apartment complex owned by the college they were going to, which was reserved for students with families and children. Many of those student families were from outside the US. My neighbors and playmates represented such countries as the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Ethiopia, the UK, and Haiti, among many others. Several of them arrived speaking no English, but within a few months they all spoke perfect English.
You can still do it when u are adult but u just need to be devoted towards learning the language
Love these longer videos on napoleon. I just started reading Andrew Roberts Napoleon, A Life and I’d recommend it to anybody who is fascinated by the life of napoleon
Yes. Fantastic book.
Awesome reaction to an amazing video. I loved all the extra insight, details or small correction you added. As a French it's refreshing to not only see hate or mockery toward us from Anglophones.
The Michael Broers book, Soldier of Destiny, gives some great insights into Corsica. Basically there was a firm division between the 'insulars' that lived in the mountains/island interrior and the coastal presidii elite that traced their origins to Ligurian colonists. The presidii, as Broers writes it, were alright with the transfer of Corsica from Genoan hands to French ones. It was the insulars that hated this cause it ruined the progress that Paoli was making with an independent Corisan state in the island's interior. Napoleon, when identifying with Paoli and romantic Corisan nationalism as a boy, was more identifying with the insular POV that than of a presido. His idea of Corsica was basically this big romantic construction that would have been fairly alien to or rejected by his presidii ancestors and contemporaries.
I actually met and have a autographed picture of René Auberjonois, as Odo of Star Trek Deep Space Nine in the 90s was one of the reasons inspired me to join the Navy when I graduated in 2000
Thoughty2 is an interesting channel. It's by no means all historical content but is almost always informative, interesting and usually with plenty of humour. Not sure how much content you could react to historically but it is certainly worth a look on a personal level.
charismatic.... but plenty of errors i hate that channel
Love this video! I’m newer to the channel so I’m shocked you never watched any of his videos before but I’m so happy you found it and can’t wait to see more!
Oh man, I'm so excited about watching your reaction to Thoughty2. His is probably my favourite channel on UA-cam. You should definitely check out some of his other videos. I'd love to see more of Arran (Thoughty2) - I miss his moustache.
Rene Auberjonois was also Odo on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. LOved him in that role.
I found this channel as well recently due to this same video! I am so happy that you're reacting to it, Chris! He has really good visuals and narration.
I have adored Thoughty2 for a couple of years now. ❤ I particularly love the videos where he introduces us to stories that nobody had ever heard of in mainstream history discussions. My favorite historical figure is now Tycho Brahe and his moose. 😂
With all the channels you have reacted to, I can't believe you have never come across Thoughty2. He's one of the biggest ones out there and does incredible work. I was flabbergasted you hadn't seen one of his vids before. Glad to see it's in the rotation.
Really hope you do more thoughty2 reactions, my favourite history channel and my favourite reaction/breakdown/educational channel….ive watched so many thoughty2 vids and wanted to learn more about it
Napoleon also established the first Naval Architecture Academy in the world . one of the biggest contributions in naval and seafaring, he standardized the ship building and now we can classify ships by its class.
Glad you were able to stumble across Thoughty2, been watching their videos for years. Great stuff
In case anyone is curious, the translation for the animation at 8:10 is as follows :
Hey, new guy!
He's so small!
Actually, his height is average.
love thoughty2. i really hope you do more of his content, as he has covered a lot of historical eras and figures, always with his lovely humor and great analysis
Totally agree. Thoughty2 is excellent. Top quality in terms of content and graphics...basically the whole package. I am glad you also like his channel. I love your insights and your comments on history. Great to see you also enjoyed Thoughty2's video.
That was really good. I think I've seen thoughty2 videos pop up for me here and there, but I don't think I've ever seen one. I'll have to check out more of their stuff.
I liked this thoughty2 video, been following him for a while.Happy to see you cover one of his videos
"Coup" is one of those words that sounds really weird if you use it too many times in a sentence.
Saladin was a Kurd and ruled Egypt. Eugen of Savoy was an Italian/French who fought for Austria. Otto the great was a Saxon who ruled east Francia.
Hitler's hometown had been mostly bavarian for the 1000 years before he was born, it only changed hands to Austria about 40 years before he was born.
Was wondering when you’d finally react to Thoughty2, absolutely love both his and your channel!
im so happy you watched this, i recently saw it and never knew about him either. now it makes sense you usually react to what i see since you look at videos your viewers watch through analytics LOL always found it weird but very convenient
Glad to see you comment on a Thoughty2 video. He's been one of my favorites for a while. I hope we see more of this in the future.
Also, a question: Are you going to do a video about Kissinger with his recent death?
Correction: Swedens king at the time of the sixth coalition was Karl Xiii (13) and the crown prince was Bernadotte, he became king in 1818
Yes but Bernadotte was already acting as de facto Head of State as of 1810. I didn't say he was King. I said Sweden was led by him, which is absolutely true.
@@VloggingThroughHistorythe Swedish armed forces where led by Bernadotte during the war, but Sweden was led by the regency council and the riksdag in Stockholm, he had no official power outside of the army, even though he was influential
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Thoughty2 is a great channel, happy to see it here. Your commentary is always fantastic, let's dive in
Yes! Thoughty2 and VTH! I'm surprised it took this long!
This was a great video, probably one of the best you have done on Napoleon. 🎉
Hey Chris ! As a French, i really want to thank you for your content. And even though I am openly marxist (not so surprising from a French guy, i'll admit it) I really appreciate listening to you reacting to historical facts, because it opens my mind to new analysises. Keep up with the good stuff !
Nice vid. Can't wait to watch your reaction to Ridley's 4 hour directors cut.
"No general in history can even come close to those numbers"
*Subetei and Bai Qi slowly walk in*
Most English channels have a western bias. Like that top 5 most influential without Confucius? Genghis Khan?
Confucianism is the most influential philosophy in all eastern Asia. Places like Japan, Koreas, China, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Taiwan, etc. Close to 1/3 of the human population.
While Genghis Khan brought down empires like the Kievan Rus, The great empire of Iron (Jin empire), khwarazm empire of the silk road, etc. There is a lot of influence he has done in the east but just looking at the influence he had in Russia and Europe/Middle East. His generals and descendants destroyed the Kievan Rus and raised a raised a minor lord to be a vassal, who later started the Russian empire.
Genghis obliterated the Cuman steppe empire. Weakened the Kievan Rus and Hungary, which gave rise to the future powers of Poland-lithuania commonwealth.
His descendant, Hulagu, sacked Baghdad and ended the Abbasid Caliphate ( truly ending the Islamic golden age).
Napoleon's seductive attraction is the clearest evidence to how dangererous he was.
I clicked on this and thought "Is Chris watching a Thoughty2 video?" Nice! He should be far friendlier than another C word creator we thought would have been.
Awesome reaction as always. But seeing thiughty2 was nice. I usually check them out and binge watch them every couple months. Fun and great channel.
I've always enjoyed Thoughty2s videos whenever I've watched them. Side note:
My head-cannon is that his channel is called Thoughty2 because when he says it with his accent, it sounds like "42." Which we all know is the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
I love his narration . I want him to narrate all my history videos . His Australian accent is good and also his humor
First time hearing about them and I thought it was a well researched and well done video
Thoughty2 is one of my favorite content creators out there. Always watch his videos the moment they come out, no matter what
Loved the video, Chris. Wanted to let you know for some reason your microphone clips at around 47 minute mark.
Thoughty2 is such a great channel.. I’ve been following him for so long and it’s such great content… ❤
Thoughty2 as in 42 as in The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. (42 being the answer to life, the universe and everything.)
Thoughty2 and blue jay did a interesting video. I wouldn’t call it history but it was a historical event. The 1904 Olympics. This Olympic you’d think was a looney toons event. Highly recommend you see it. You’ll be wondering how this Olympics event even happened considering how dangerous it was.
That's a great and hilarious video.
@@Ycjedi yes that Olympic in my opinion would be a Olympic Id watch. It felt like watching a real life mario party game event. Especially the Cuban racer who literally fell asleep on the race and talked to racers and still made it to 4th place.🤣🤣
2:20 fun fact; I’m almost certain that list is based on Wikipedia page edits/views, I remember reading the exact same articles and top 5 lmao
Dude your channel rocks!
Re Borodino: yes, well worth visiting. Was lucky enough to see the place and some other great Moscow-area sights during the post-USSR/pre-Putin era. Interestingly, the same location saw some significant fighting in 1941 too as the Wehrmacht advanced on Moscow. So there's also a lot of bunkers and WW2-era weaponry. The battlefield park emphasizes the site's role equally in both invasions.
I hope someone will see this and provide any additional information they may know about this. I’ve started reading on Napoleon in a biography from Vincent Cronin and he states several times how he tried to Join foreign armies. He applied for a place in the British army as well as the Russian army but wouldn’t receive the rank of major he wanted after his successes in Toulon. He even tried to move to Turkey. This came as a huge shock to me as I’ve never seen this documented anywhere else.
29:00 Oh, yes. He has a whole team. He is probably just the presenter. Team of writers and editors.
Well, when Wellington paraise Nappy, it's pretty dang self-serving!
Fantastic video. I’ve learned so much about Napoleon from these reactions (and the original videos)
He has a great video on Jack the Ripper that I think would be right up your alley!
YES! Please react to more Thoughty2 🙏
If you’re looking for other content, there’s a channel called Cambrian Chrinicles that has done various videos on the history of King Arthur and Welsh history. He has some interesting videos about historical myths and historical sources that I think you would find fascinating.
"Napolean showed brilliance by arranging his troops in a square to thwart the cavalry"
Crassus: "Wait, what?"
Napleon's great nephew, Imperial Prince Louis-Napleon travelled to South Africa with rank of Leuitant and fought in the Anglo-Zulu war to gain military experience. He died in an ambush however there is a marker in Kwazulu Natal about where we think he died.
Writers: So how are we going to portray Napoleon in the film?
Ridley Scott: Make him lame and cucked!
Do more of Thoughty2, I think he has great content 👍
1:04:55 I’m curious, what are all those last 6 flags? I know the FIRST 6 are Britain, Prussia, Kingdom of Switzerland, Kingdom of Denmark, Kingdom of Holland(Netherlands is a newer term), and Russia.
This is one of many reasons I love being subscribed to your channel, Prof Chris. You introduce me to other interesting channels on UA-cam.
One of the irreplaceable strengths of Nappy was presiding over the revolutionary french army. They were out fighting the professional armies of european crowns and breaking traditional rules of conflict.
Plus his abilities and drive ..
Took 25 years to get the better of them.
Not sure if you take suggestions from the comments, but the Epic History TV series on Napoleon’s Marshals is superb.
What is it about Artists that they always end up as dictators?
Just watched Ridley scotts "kingdom of heaven" (directors cut), and it seems like his rapid editing and all over the place writing is common for him
I think Napoleon's greatest mistake was turning on an allied Spain. They both took over Portugal in 1807 and occupied it jointly. If he could have just stopped it there, I think he's mostly remembered as good.
But when he invaded them, he was basically demanding that the Austrians declare war again, which yes he did quickly win. But the English getting involved in Spain did get helped by Russian trade, which is why Napoleon declared war on them.
I am convinced that Napoleon could never attack Spain and win without the other more fragmented parts of his Empire getting stretched too thin. If he stops in 1807 after Friedland and lets the English be, I don't think the War of the 5th Coalition gets declared and Russia never happens.
He made several un-forced errors. Picking a fight with Sweden, who was allied with France at the time, was another.
To me, the most interesting battle of the Napoleonic Wars is Waterloo, mainly because of stuff like the defense of Huganont and the calvary squares, and seeing what tactics Napoleon performed given the unbelievably high stakes.
I think is overrated. Some of the others are way more interesting to me.
Thoughty2 is an amazing channel. He made a vid about Churchill that I would absolutely love to see you react to.
Which books about Napoleon do you recommend? I am reading War and Peace now, which is not really about Napoleon, but still very much related
We really need a 8 season triple A budget show about Napoleon
The Battle of the Pyramids was the ultimate example of the pitfalls of bringing swords to a gun fight on the part of the Ottomans.
Correct me If I'm wrong. But didnt egypt at this point wasnt part of the ottomans?. I think it was under mamluks?. They arent part of ottomans forces because they revolted against the ottomans in 1768 and declare egypt independence from the ottomans.
Later even some mamluks join the service of napoleon armee d'orient. And even follow napoleon to france and join as his royal bodyguard.
I really like this guys video. Napoleon is one of the best general for sure. Maybe one of the best leaders.
Besides the uniforms the last Napoleon movie was a bad forgery.
The military corps system was being experimented with by russia among others independently i believe in less sophisticated/functional forms; it was already a french conception during the revolution that was constantly being evolved. Mass Conscription was also started before napoleon by revolutionary france. Napoleon simply carried the evolution of france's corps system and conscription to its end point. Ive been informed on this by many informed people and also looked into it closer myself due to them, and while initially trying to refute the veracity of their claims, i must concede i find them to be correct.
Asda is Walmart. And Waitrose is rich person food store.
I just watched this video and the whole time was thinking VTH should react to this
Phillip II participated in the Olympic Games, so he had to prove to a committee that he was greek.
It’s like saying that someone from a state with weird accent (Alabama for example) is not American. People might have a hard time understanding what they are saying and parts of their culture might seems strange to the rest of the US, but you wouldn’t say that they are not exactly American.
Asda is a cheaper supermarket, Walmart had a stake in it for a while. Waitrose is a posh co-op, part of John Lewis, which is a department store chain
Legendary war historian Vizinni said it best… never get into a land war in Asia.
First off I'd like to say I really enjoyed your commentary and insights through the video, everything you've pointed out was correct and most importantly easy to understand for people not knowledgeable on the subject.
I'm really happy to see anglophones portray Napoleon as a man rather than a bloodthirsty monster.
Thoughty's video was pretty good, especially the first half as it was quite clear and concise, the latter half though was missing many crucial details that would explain Napoleon's actions better.
Especially his invasion of Russia, which was by no means on a whim nor was it unjustified though definitely a mistake in execution, as he didn't account for the Russian's willingness to burn even their own capital to keep the French army from making their winter quarters there.
To anyone who's interest was piqued I recommend to read more about the man, and more importantly to read diverse sources and not only the British accounts.
As a note for future would-be conquerors, don't bother trying to conquer Russia, nuke it or leave it.
Russians would sooner blow themselves up than letting anyone but Russians (Or Soviets...) run their country.
I'm personally a big fan of Thoughty2's videos on psychology. While that may not be the best thing to react to here; watching them in your free time could be educational.
Every correlation is an epic movie on its own
Love Thoughty2… been watching him longer than any other UA-camr… since the fancy days. 😏
One important distinction near the end. I am a Napoleon fan, but I think he did most of what he did not as a fan of France but as a lust for power.
Excelent video as always Chris! Now I'll proceed to watch it
It’s a great time sitting on my couch, watching vlogging through history react to Thoughty2, keep up the good work.
The French there says, “Hey, new boy!” “He is so short!” “His size is medium.”
Thoughty 2 is great, you’ll enjoy and appreciate his channel
I started playing Napoleonic miniature gaming in the early mid 90s. One of the things that game talked about was not simply he created Corps which I would say are what we would call combined arms 120 some years later with the Fuller Plan 1919 which was never applied by the Allies due to WWI ending in 1918 but the WW2 Germans did employ, but that Napoleon changed command and control and movement. Both are very important. The former allows you to get commands to the line units faster and the latter allowed your units to change formation faster.
Just like the Later Roman period, your opponents adopt this. In the case of the Romans, they fought those who used to fight for them. Napoleon the similar. Prussia for example adopted the French system. There militaria Napoleon faced at Waterloo was not the same one he faced years earlier.
Plus not mentioned in the video was that the British formed squares in defense against French cavalry at Waterloo in much the same way Napoleon formed squares in Egypt against the Turks.
Hey you mentioned reading books about napoleon , could you recommend some books about him?
Rene Ah-Bear-Jen-Wuah
He's also Odo in Star Trek DS9 (the best Star Trek)
More Napoleon content please!
Please react to the Napoleon's Marshals series, I'm very curious on what you think about Napoleon's great subordinates.