None of this is true. MOMENTS after she was fired from Mōdere, her upline and her uplines biz partner saved her, coddled her and got her into pruvit. It’s the blantant liiiiiiiiiiies for me
@@catherinedean3796 😮😮😮😮 After watching now about a billion videos with her in it, I believe you, but it's still shocking to me because of the other people putting their butt on the line at risk of being charged. (At least in alberta - where I'm from - it's nearly illegal to say anything bad about any job seeker in a former employer / possible employee / possible future employer scenario, because if the former employer says anything bad, the job seeker can charge them with slander and if they cannot back it up in a court, the former employer could be in big legal trouble. Around here, I'm told if a new possible employer is thinking of hiring you, they can call your old employer, but all they can say is that you did work there and when.)
She chose Pruvit because it's a company that has products that people will want to buy for years to come, but anyone who's paying attention should be able to realize that diet trends evolve constantly. Paleo was huge a decade ago and now you barely see it. The same will happen to keto.
Before Paleo, it was South Beach, the Zone was before that… and then I was in elementary school so wasn’t aware of diet culture! Oh it was low fat - I remember my mom saying “fat will make you fat.” You are 100% correct - Keto is just this 5 year period’s trend and is very much on the way out.
the thing is you don't need those products to do keto at all. people will continue to do keto because doctors recommend low carb lifestyles to potentially help a lot of medical issues. the problem is these products don't do shit and are yet another thing to add onto the useless diet industry pile of scams
I think she is laying the groundwork for leaving and starting her own MLM. When she said not to join a new company unless it's one she starts, I became more sure. And when she does, it won't have an Income Disclosure Statement and it will be a consumable product.
In this video, she also claims she isn't going to start her own MLM company. I wonder if that's because it would be too much work to become the real CEO of something? Or maybe she really is going to start her own MLM company, and this video was to get her followers even more brainwashed so that they follow her straight into hers because hers will be the "perfect" MLM to join?
@@Astrocam88 yes - I think that's exactly what she is doing. Her new MLM will meet all of the "good" criteria she identified and none of the bad. The fact that she specifically claimed she is not going to start her own MLM is meaningless. She lies so much!
@@lisahance That's true. It's strange she lied about it though, if she really is starting her own. You would think she would be bragging about it to get her followers hyped up to join her. But maybe she doesn't want the anti-MLM community swaying anyone's decision to join her before the business even starts?
She will say that others, (immaginary) people incorauge her to do it because they know she'll do it better than other CEO's and companies and she wants to change and improve lives 😂😂😂
Oh my gods! She did the thing. She said something mean and hateful then followed it with "Just Kidding." That is a narcissist tag line. I hate it so much. That's literally just saying mean things, waiting to check the reaction, and pretending you didn't just say something hateful. My God. Jessie Lee is gonna make me write her in my book about narcissistic abuse and behavior.
the fact that your husband pulled you away to look at the moon is fucking adorable. if my future marriage isn’t like the “selfish suarez’s’ I DONT WANT IT
Every time she calls out the names of people supposedly watching her, I remember stories I’ve heard about a kiddie show that used to be on tv. The woman hosting it had a “magic mirror” (just a big hand mirror with no center) that she’d hold in front of her face and say, “I see Billy, and Susan, and Bobby, and Jane…” just listing off the most common kids’ names of the era. The kids watching got so excited when they heard their name, that she could see them. These were preschoolers, not grown adults. Then again, mlms often feel like little kids playing office or business with mom or dad’s desk.
Wow, I’m not alone then! I feel as goofy and off balance as a $3 bill and came here for the same reason! ☮️Peace coming at you from Delaware! (Making friends in the comments) lol 😂
It's a hard winter for the mentally ill, dude I feel you. Chelsea motivated me to try to take a shower here in a bit lol. I hate how difficult the basics are sometimes. I hope your day is on the upswing! 💙
@@s0lastsummer7 I'm in a respite/crisis house currently due to my Bipolar and I managed my first bath in more days than I'd care to admit. I hope you can achieve it even if you get back into clean jammies
@@katyr2382 oh man please take care of yourself! 🥺 stay strong! And thank you, there is a very high likelihood that I'll be jumping right back into sweatpants, buuut.... at least I won't smell like a wildebeest. Anymore. 🤷🏻♀️
Man, after watching Isabella’s video on one of Jessie Lee’s cult member fan girls, all of her most aggravating traits really just nonconsensually assault you in every video, it’s so unsettling
I've seen/heard these huns do it and they aren't affiliated with Jesse's MLM or whatever. Very annoying. Isabella and Deanna mentioned something about this copy cat up-line behavior of fast, loud, animated, repetitive way of speaking from the Monat, Arbonne, iGenius, etc. huns.
I'm so glad to hear you mention how she uses ANNOYING forced engagement in her chat (I cringe when I hear the word "chat" because of her!! 😬) that means absolutely NOTHING. There's a difference between creating open dialogue versus tricking the system into thinking you're making content that actually MATTERS. Drop an "ugh" in the chat if you're annoyed, lol. 🙄
I think I understand what she's doing with her "type simple/yes/1/random emoji" thing. My husband has sold cars in the past, and he said a common sales tactic is just to get people to say yes to something. "Boy, it's hot out." "Yes, it is." Literally anything. You can build on that to try to get the person to keep saying yes, agreeing with you, or even doing something you say. Then when the hard sale comes, your customer is more likely to be on your side. If done right, it's a pretty subtle tactic.
I’m just at the beginning… but I have a feeling her pointers on how to pick the “perfect mlm” (well, that’s the biggest oxymoron I’ve ever seen) will conveniently describe her own mlm that she’ll be launching so they’ll all follow her like good little cult members.
From my experience, even when people did "join for the discount", once they got added into the groups and all that BS, guess what happened....they were convinced to sell.
Omg these shout outs are insane! I remember when she did a training for my team when I was in my mlm and she said my name. I was so excited. Now I’m like what’s the big deal?! Like wow the manipulation.
This is one of the few videos of her I can watch because she's way more mellow than usual. Part of me wants to see the dumpster fire of her own MLM, but I know so many people will get tangled in all that.
I never thought I'd hear myself say this but thank God I grew up with a father who did Amway! 🤯🤯 Only bc I would probably be roped into an mlm. I'll admit it I used to be very easily manipulated by people like Bosslee or Dray. I wanted nothing more than to be rich doing something I loved part time.. don't we all??
Down with covid for the second time in the past year even after being fully vaccinated. Have been binging your videos during isolation and enjoying the hell out of them.
I feel you dude, hope you get better! I got COVID in November 2019, then got vaxxed as soon as I could in 2020, and now I'm home in isolation with it again. Hopefully it's not as bad for you since you're vaxxed! I know for me, it's not that bad, just some congestion and fatigue right now. But it still sucks regardless. Wishing you a quick recovery!
Yep I just recovered from covid for the second time. Truthfully for me it was easier the second time. The first time I was sick for 3 weeks then got laryngitis after. This time it was more flu like symptoms for 4 days then I was good! I hope it’s been easier for you too! I’m also pregnant in my 3rd trimester so the only thing I could take was Tylenol 😖 that is probably the worst part. I wished I could have just drank NyQuil and pass out for 4 days straight.
Just listening to that woman was enough to bring stress knots to my neck. Her caffeine induced bullying would never work in a real, non MLM, company. A proper sales team is essential to company success. Reps respond to respect and encouragement. They are highly valued and earn high salaries and commission, drive top company cars and are driven by their love of what they do. They don't have to buy what they sell and treat their clients as valuable. I wouldn't last 5 minutes with this shrew. It's easy to see how she's been fired by her 2 previous MLM's. A meeting with a sales team never involves a battering like this woman has just given her lackeys. I can spot an MLM from a distance and she is definitely one I could smell a mile off.
Yes! She's sooo toxic and demeaning. If I got hired at a normal company and had a boss like that I would run for my life. It's so sad her downlines accept being treated like that.
11:59 She is so MUCH like a pastor. Back when I was a Christian and I used to go to this one really popular church, to keep the audience engaged he would say something and then say "Can I get an AMEN??!" and everyone would say amen. And then he would use like vocab words and whenever he would say like "faith" he would point to the audience and everyone had to say "faith" or you would get nudged/elbowed. "Everyone look at your neighbor and say 'JESUS!'" It's do patronizing but it keeps your audience feeling like you're fun ✨ and interesting ✨
I lost it at “Look at your neighbor and say JESUS!” It feels like the opening to a snarky comment. “JESUS! I thought for sure you’d be struck by lightning if you set foot in a church again!” “JESUS! The 80s called and even they don’t want that hairstyle back.” “JESUS! I can’t believe you’re sober on a Sunday morning.” 😹
She’s way more likable when she’s “low energy”. Also, I can see how she sucks people into mlms. She’s so confident in what she’s saying that you almost want to believe her 😂 Your editing is hilarious. And yes please, all the boss lee reactions. They are my favorite
I’m so caught off guard when I agree with her on things 😂😂 I absolutely think it helps when managers have done your job and can relate to things at all levels because they worked their way up. Just not in the context of MLMs 🤦🏻♀️
I believe Pruvit did take the idea from another ketone company. That is why Pruvit had to switch the formula(used to be called Keto MAX and switch it to Keto NAT.)
Instead of choose your own adventure, it's choose your own cult? I don't want to play. Lol. Also, I wonder if part of the reason BossLee doesn't say she was fired from the MLM because then it would blow a hole in their narrative of being a business owner. Can't fire a business owner, right? (I'm sure it's also because she just doesn't want to admit it, but gotta keep up that business owner narrative!)
STORMY CHECK THE DESCRIPTION BOX. I go over allllll that in my deep dive. she is still in Pruvit. but over the last 10 yrs she has been fired from two previous MLMs and lies about it
When you were talking about lazy engagement tricks.. one of my favorite parts of watching videos like yours is reading the comments. Seeing you and everyone else learn from others’ experiences. I’d never engage or click on the comments section if there were 60 flame comments followed by 60 ‘simple’ comments. Like. No.
I agree I really enjoy reading the comments and it’s nice to be able to look back at read through interesting comments, even months later. I don’t want to see repetitive, simple, bot-like comments lol
I may have said it before but the thing that kills me about these girls is that they'd KILL IT doing like legitimate above board sales. I think the only reason they don't is because then they'd have people like me pulling her into my office every two seconds and telling her to tone it down and to quit writing checks with her mouth that my ass can't cash (I'm a consultant in business intelligence so usually what our sales department sells is well...me! lol. My services and expertise to be exact and I've had a LOT of issues with sales people overpromising things so they can successfully close and then leaving me to break the bad news that no, that's not a thing) But it kills me like...girl you could literally do the same thing at a legitimate business as part of a sales department and you literally LITERALLY could have insurance and a great salary, etc.
When you mentioned the Pruvit meals I had to go look them up and thankfully managed to find the CRINGIEST video here on UA-cam of people getting excited about eating tiny peppers that looked like plastic (deadset, I thought they were mock up meals designed for photo shoots when the woman turned the camera on them) dipped in ranch sauce. You go Pruvit, give us nothing!
I wonder how she feels about people checking her out as a potential upline like they'd check out an MLM corporate officer. Would she agree to meet with someone to talk about her failures, "field experience" history, back office, ect? 😒🧐
Is this her pitch for her own pyramid scheme MLM? Cuz it sure sounds like it!Psychic Chelsea called it! She’s starting her own MLM in the very near future. She knows that’s where the REAL money is.
The people who “just join for the discount and don’t sell or recruit” are probably actually the people who join up, then realise they got lied to about payments and work loads, so they abandon ship 🤷🏻♀️
I'm binge watching again! Hail to the couch queen!!👌💖 also...in 2016, I was pre-diabetic. I went on the keto diet. Didn't buy anything, just followed some doctors keto advice. I lost 87 pounds in 8 months and have kept it off. I had tried all kinds of diets all of my life. I am thankful I found the keto diet. Didn't join anything, just followed it... so to me, in my opinion and by my personal experience, the keto diet is not a fad.. but just telling you my story.. i am no longer pre-diabetic. My health is better than its been in years.🍾🍸
It’s a really good diet for people with a ton of conditions, but I feel like doing it naturally has to be 100 times better than adding some product full of chemicals. Good for you for loosing all that weight!
I agree with her that you need to read policies and procedures. But the way she’s explaining it, it’s coming off like oh if you don’t like something then make them change it before you join. That doesn’t happen for everyone! Sure maybe a top person the company is trying to get to move over, but no average person is gonna be like oh I don’t like that part change it or I’m not joining. They will literally laugh in your face and say ok bye ✌🏻
WFABB will be coming for her soon🤣🤣🤣. Also, they only joined for the discount means your company is literally willing to let even truly apathetic people “join the business”! Why do that??? I doubt Burger King is signing on franchisees bc they really just want to eat burgers all day.
She said, you know someone is about to leave when they use the phrase “my company” instead of the actual name, then proceeds to use the phrase “my company” instead of Pruvit.
I see it too and it’s so concerning. She looks totally ragged out. I feel for her. I use to do the same to myself and it was disastrous and didn’t end well! Learned my lesson and will NEVER live like that again. Not cute😑
Love how she starts out by saying she’s not trying to recruit anyone, then goes on for several minutes about how important it was for her to have a ‘unique’ product and how amazing she felt the first time she tried them. But she’s not trying to recruit….suuuuuure
On income disclosures- even if we took off the entire bottom rank where a percentage of these people may have signed up and didn’t plan to build- let’s just hypothetically say okay, we take out that entire bottom rank and assume ALL of those people just were kitnappers. How embarrassing of her bc those percentage numbers left are STILL SUPER HORRIFIC AND TRAGIC. Even if we adjusted all those numbers, it’s STILL really bad!!!!! Not to mention the top .5% of any company usually shows the very top leaders make somewhere between $5,000 a month and $500,000 a month. Like come on. The outliers are horrifically unstable and unreliable. Her huge position of “these are dumb,” just made her sound more dumb than usual. Even if we go off her logic, it’s almost even worst.
For every promoter there is usually 2 “ghost accounts” that they control and purchase through and sometimes those ghost accounts have an active autoship so people are spending at least $300/month and then they are made to feel obligated to buy 2 boxes of every new flavour that comes out every couple days
Wiggum in the big, squishy chair snoring his little heart out makes me so happy. I've had a rough morning with my special needs son, and I'm so happy to have a new Chelsea video to watch while I drink my coffee and cuddle him.
Okay so actually I did sign up for “just the discount” once (hear me out). I signed up for YL to get the wholesale prices. Honestly! I never sold or tried to sell anything. BUT - as I was signing up to be a member, there were two options: wholesale member account, or sign up for an account with the intent of selling. The selling option had you input a lot of other info, like SSN. So my question is - if other companies have the same set up (“just the discount” membership vs “intent to sell” membership), what are the income disclosures actually showing? It wouldn’t make sense for my “discount only” membership to show up on the Income Disclosure… Edit to add I am no longer a member with YL lol yikes
I was gonna say this! Several companies, not just yl, have made it so you can join as a wholesale or vip member but not be considered a promoter/advocate/ coach whatever it may be. I feel like they did that to try to help their income disclosure numbers… didn’t work… 😂
Most companies that have vip membership don’t count those people in the income disclosure. They use those members to try to say they have a lot of customers… but they leave that number off. Why don’t they say we have X# of discount vip members and X# of distributes and this is our retention rate from year to year Oh because it is a scam and they don’t want to share information about the business customers
Sweet a new vid, I got the Rona as does everyone in my house. So grateful for all these awesome UA-camrs making awesome content so I have stuff to binge watch while under the weather 🤧🥴😊
thank you so much for uploading today! came at perfect timing. my college courses technically started two weeks ago but today was the first day we started in person again. having been taking online courses since march 2020, I had a panic attack and missed my first class. your videos really give me something to distract myself with. love you girl❤️❤️ keep doing amazing things
Ugh getting back to social situations when you've been soooo out of practice in that area is the worst. I remember explaining to my therapist about a year ago that I was struggling to leave my house because.....I hadn't been leaving my house. I require a constant slow drip of practice at being around other humans otherwise I forget how and have anxious meltdowns. It's been a bit reassuring to hear that other people can relate and understand exactly what I'm talking about though!! We're going through it -- be kind to yourself and keep trying your best! 😘
@@madisonrachel1292 you are so very welcome! I've been struggling with this as well. I have a hard time leaving my farm to do anything even grocery shopping now. I drive 30 min to Costco, get a couple things on my list get overwhelmed and have to leave before I can get everything I need. It stinks. You're not alone 🥰 and there is nothing "wrong" with you. That's what got me is thinking something was wrong with me. It's super common especially in the current global circumstances.
Definitely getting the vibe that she’s about to dip out of Pruvit. Doing a video about being successful in MLM without promoting your own? That is MLM blasphemy. Edited to add: per Erin Bies’ story, Pruvit owns their manufacturing because one of the founders of Pruvit had already developed his own ketone supplement and owned his manufacturing facility. When he and the other founders started Pruvit, they originally used his ketones while he kept his own company, but that was hinky so they changed Pruvits formula so they wouldn’t be the exact same thing. So that one founder is making baaaaaaank.
Little clueless baby huns straight out of high school, sadly! They turn eighteen, leave home and enter broke college life.... they don't know any better yet, so when someone they admire on campus suddenly wants to be their friend, they'll do whatever they have to in order to maintain connections. They fully take advantage of young people. 😕
U would be surprised. I saw a tik tok a few weeks ago of a hun posting her aMaZiNg life and “opportunity” but I’m pretty sure tik tok doesn’t let u do the mlm Thing so she was like come ask abt it at my instagram and soooooooooo many ppl were like mee me me! I was like absolutely stunned at the stupidity, and this is even w ppl saying don’t it’s a mlm or dont it’s a scam 😣
My best friend joined plunder jewelry and I told her about the facts of mlms. She said she just signed up for the discount but she posts about it EVERYDAY 🤔
Regarding income disclosure statements, she’s repeating what Eric Worre said in the ridiculous GoPro “training.” ITS NOT FAIR, IT INCLUDES EVERYONE THAT JOINS. Ok, then give them a separate category. Oh, but then it will still look bad too…oops
Hey hey Beautiful! 👋🏼 I’ve been real down in the dumps these last few days and haven’t been on much but I’m feeling a lil better today and am so glad to have one of your videos to help me through!💜 Also, quick side note, Because of you, I bought not one…not two….but three of those glosses! Lol #Amazzzzing 👌🏼🤌🏼
Hashtag: “Issa red flag 🚩 to join a brand new MLM.” Also hashtag: “IT’S NOT A RES FLAG TO JOIN A NEW MLM WITH JESSICA LEE!” Cult members: “She right, she right.”
Being able to meet the C suite employees isn't always that great anyway lol I've worked plenty positions where that was the case and it's more frustrating than informational. 😂
I have to say, Boss Lee has taken a smart approach in this video. She seems to be watching your and anti-MLM videos and noticed the arguments you make. So, to seem sensible she seems to be working those points into her monologues. She knows to address the red flag, the logistics of cash flow, and other issues that are often brought up. She is coming across as more reasonable. It's super impressive but so insanely manipulative. With the comment about how she makes her money from sales, she is so close to acknowledging that she takes advantage of people. It's scary to see that she's actually reacting to anti-MLM in an effective way! I try to do similar things at work, if I get criticism or need to respond to criticism in a way that convinces people of my point, I'm going to also do everything I can to make that person feel that they agree with me and trust my judgement. But she's being sneeeeeaaaky! Edit: her extensions have also been less absurd and she isn't shouting as much here. She slows herself down and is stopping herself from going full typical lunatic-mode. Edit 2: Perfect response to her statement about income statements being inaccurate - great point and not often discussed!
Talking about the “type simple in the comments,” not only is it a lazy way to increase engagement/ trick algorithms- it’s reminiscent of the call and response style of attention getting that churches often use.
Oh....90 day run I thought it was meaning go on a run for 90 days straight. I fear running bc gravity works very well for me and I fall A LOT; however going on a run for 90 days straight sounds more fun to me
My name is Robert Welsh You can call me ‘Hashtag Robert Welsh’
LOL YOU WONT SNEAK THAT INTO ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS
@@IAMCCSuarez no I’m going to do it now
@@RobertWelsh I will die
None of this is true. MOMENTS after she was fired from Mōdere, her upline and her uplines biz partner saved her, coddled her and got her into pruvit. It’s the blantant liiiiiiiiiiies for me
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It’s also alleged that while she was in the room getting fired the top execs were calling CEOs of other companies telling them not to work with her 🫢
@@catherinedean3796 😮😮😮😮 After watching now about a billion videos with her in it, I believe you, but it's still shocking to me because of the other people putting their butt on the line at risk of being charged. (At least in alberta - where I'm from - it's nearly illegal to say anything bad about any job seeker in a former employer / possible employee / possible future employer scenario, because if the former employer says anything bad, the job seeker can charge them with slander and if they cannot back it up in a court, the former employer could be in big legal trouble. Around here, I'm told if a new possible employer is thinking of hiring you, they can call your old employer, but all they can say is that you did work there and when.)
She chose Pruvit because it's a company that has products that people will want to buy for years to come, but anyone who's paying attention should be able to realize that diet trends evolve constantly. Paleo was huge a decade ago and now you barely see it. The same will happen to keto.
you right you right
If they work so well wouldn't you be able to stop using them after a short amount of time?
Before Paleo, it was South Beach, the Zone was before that… and then I was in elementary school so wasn’t aware of diet culture! Oh it was low fat - I remember my mom saying “fat will make you fat.” You are 100% correct - Keto is just this 5 year period’s trend and is very much on the way out.
It's almost as if...diet culture is a scam 🤔
the thing is you don't need those products to do keto at all. people will continue to do keto because doctors recommend low carb lifestyles to potentially help a lot of medical issues. the problem is these products don't do shit and are yet another thing to add onto the useless diet industry pile of scams
I think she is laying the groundwork for leaving and starting her own MLM. When she said not to join a new company unless it's one she starts, I became more sure. And when she does, it won't have an Income Disclosure Statement and it will be a consumable product.
In this video, she also claims she isn't going to start her own MLM company. I wonder if that's because it would be too much work to become the real CEO of something? Or maybe she really is going to start her own MLM company, and this video was to get her followers even more brainwashed so that they follow her straight into hers because hers will be the "perfect" MLM to join?
@@Astrocam88 yes - I think that's exactly what she is doing. Her new MLM will meet all of the "good" criteria she identified and none of the bad. The fact that she specifically claimed she is not going to start her own MLM is meaningless. She lies so much!
@@lisahance That's true. It's strange she lied about it though, if she really is starting her own. You would think she would be bragging about it to get her followers hyped up to join her. But maybe she doesn't want the anti-MLM community swaying anyone's decision to join her before the business even starts?
Maybe she'll get in troubles with pruvit if she starts that before she's ready to leave?
She will say that others, (immaginary) people incorauge her to do it because they know she'll do it better than other CEO's and companies and she wants to change and improve lives 😂😂😂
Jessie Lee takes me from 0 to headache in under 60 seconds.
Me right now wondering why I have a headache 😂😂
Oh my gods! She did the thing. She said something mean and hateful then followed it with "Just Kidding." That is a narcissist tag line. I hate it so much. That's literally just saying mean things, waiting to check the reaction, and pretending you didn't just say something hateful. My God. Jessie Lee is gonna make me write her in my book about narcissistic abuse and behavior.
Right out of the Big Ed textbook lol
@@s0lastsummer7 yessssss. Oh my gods. That man is a walking PTSD trigger. He should wear a red flag as a cape.
You are absolutely spot-on. She’s an NPD case study.
the fact that your husband pulled you away to look at the moon is fucking adorable. if my future marriage isn’t like the “selfish suarez’s’ I DONT WANT IT
Every time she calls out the names of people supposedly watching her, I remember stories I’ve heard about a kiddie show that used to be on tv. The woman hosting it had a “magic mirror” (just a big hand mirror with no center) that she’d hold in front of her face and say, “I see Billy, and Susan, and Bobby, and Jane…” just listing off the most common kids’ names of the era. The kids watching got so excited when they heard their name, that she could see them. These were preschoolers, not grown adults. Then again, mlms often feel like little kids playing office or business with mom or dad’s desk.
Omg romper room I loved that show as a kid! I waited forever but she never said my name 🥲
I remember that show. LOL exactly.
Romper room !!
I’m feeling self conscious/some anxiety today so I’m watching Chelsea to get some of my sass and spice back today! 💅🏻
You got this hugs 🤗🤗
Wow, I’m not alone then! I feel as goofy and off balance as a $3 bill and came here for the same reason!
☮️Peace coming at you from Delaware!
(Making friends in the comments) lol 😂
It's a hard winter for the mentally ill, dude I feel you. Chelsea motivated me to try to take a shower here in a bit lol. I hate how difficult the basics are sometimes. I hope your day is on the upswing! 💙
@@s0lastsummer7 I'm in a respite/crisis house currently due to my Bipolar and I managed my first bath in more days than I'd care to admit. I hope you can achieve it even if you get back into clean jammies
@@katyr2382 oh man please take care of yourself! 🥺 stay strong! And thank you, there is a very high likelihood that I'll be jumping right back into sweatpants, buuut.... at least I won't smell like a wildebeest. Anymore. 🤷🏻♀️
Man, after watching Isabella’s video on one of Jessie Lee’s cult member fan girls, all of her most aggravating traits really just nonconsensually assault you in every video, it’s so unsettling
I've seen/heard these huns do it and they aren't affiliated with Jesse's MLM or whatever. Very annoying. Isabella and Deanna mentioned something about this copy cat up-line behavior of fast, loud, animated, repetitive way of speaking from the Monat, Arbonne, iGenius, etc. huns.
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Omg EXACTLY 😂🤣😂!!!!!
That girl in Isabella's video is insipid. My head hurt after listening to her yell at her team.
Omg RIGHT!!!! I honestly can't decide who is more obnoxious. BossLee or that chick Isabella did the video on. Brittany something?
I'm so glad to hear you mention how she uses ANNOYING forced engagement in her chat (I cringe when I hear the word "chat" because of her!! 😬) that means absolutely NOTHING. There's a difference between creating open dialogue versus tricking the system into thinking you're making content that actually MATTERS. Drop an "ugh" in the chat if you're annoyed, lol. 🙄
I teach on Zoom and I avoid using the chat because I hear “drop it in the chat” when I think about it 😂
Ugh 😂😂😂 yeah it's def gaming the algorithm
Ugh
UGH LOL
Ugh! Haha
I think I understand what she's doing with her "type simple/yes/1/random emoji" thing. My husband has sold cars in the past, and he said a common sales tactic is just to get people to say yes to something. "Boy, it's hot out." "Yes, it is." Literally anything. You can build on that to try to get the person to keep saying yes, agreeing with you, or even doing something you say. Then when the hard sale comes, your customer is more likely to be on your side. If done right, it's a pretty subtle tactic.
“I don’t know how to lose.” You don’t need to know how, you just lose. It happens to everyone. You cannot be the best in everything all the time.
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Been rewatching your old jesse lee videos and this was a pleasant surprise. Bosslee is fascinating in a crime documentary kind of way
RIGHT!! 😂😂😂😂
Truly! There’s something in the eyes 😳
@@kaeleenmichelle the voice (bosslee) CRIPPLES me like a cat wearing a sweater! 😂
@@kaeleenmichelle I think it's her eyebrows. She seems manic.
I 100 % agree I find her fascinating
I’m just at the beginning… but I have a feeling her pointers on how to pick the “perfect mlm” (well, that’s the biggest oxymoron I’ve ever seen) will conveniently describe her own mlm that she’ll be launching so they’ll all follow her like good little cult members.
I think you’re making a great observation.
From my experience, even when people did "join for the discount", once they got added into the groups and all that BS, guess what happened....they were convinced to sell.
Omg these shout outs are insane! I remember when she did a training for my team when I was in my mlm and she said my name. I was so excited. Now I’m like what’s the big deal?! Like wow the manipulation.
"If I started an MLM ..... *oh crap I've tipped my hand* ... I'm not starting an MLM. BUT IF I DID, it would be great" 😆
JLs ground floor opportunity of moving out of your basement and to the ground floor 🤣
Bwahahahahahaahaha!
This is one of the few videos of her I can watch because she's way more mellow than usual.
Part of me wants to see the dumpster fire of her own MLM, but I know so many people will get tangled in all that.
Boss Lee reminds me so of Mother Gothel from Tangled, like… the backhanded insults, the manipulation 😬😬
Happy lunch hour to everyone!!!!
I never thought I'd hear myself say this but thank God I grew up with a father who did Amway! 🤯🤯 Only bc I would probably be roped into an mlm. I'll admit it I used to be very easily manipulated by people like Bosslee or Dray. I wanted nothing more than to be rich doing something I loved part time.. don't we all??
Down with covid for the second time in the past year even after being fully vaccinated. Have been binging your videos during isolation and enjoying the hell out of them.
Hope you get to feeling better!!
I feel you dude, hope you get better! I got COVID in November 2019, then got vaxxed as soon as I could in 2020, and now I'm home in isolation with it again. Hopefully it's not as bad for you since you're vaxxed! I know for me, it's not that bad, just some congestion and fatigue right now. But it still sucks regardless. Wishing you a quick recovery!
@@hailyjohnson407 U take care too..
hope you feel better love! We had it jan last year and pretty sure we got it again this past christmas. many more videos coming this week
Yep I just recovered from covid for the second time. Truthfully for me it was easier the second time. The first time I was sick for 3 weeks then got laryngitis after. This time it was more flu like symptoms for 4 days then I was good! I hope it’s been easier for you too! I’m also pregnant in my 3rd trimester so the only thing I could take was Tylenol 😖 that is probably the worst part. I wished I could have just drank NyQuil and pass out for 4 days straight.
Just listening to that woman was enough to bring stress knots to my neck. Her caffeine induced bullying would never work in a real, non MLM, company. A proper sales team is essential to company success. Reps respond to respect and encouragement. They are highly valued and earn high salaries and commission, drive top company cars and are driven by their love of what they do. They don't have to buy what they sell and treat their clients as valuable. I wouldn't last 5 minutes with this shrew. It's easy to see how she's been fired by her 2 previous MLM's. A meeting with a sales team never involves a battering like this woman has just given her lackeys. I can spot an MLM from a distance and she is definitely one I could smell a mile off.
Yes! She's sooo toxic and demeaning. If I got hired at a normal company and had a boss like that I would run for my life. It's so sad her downlines accept being treated like that.
11:59 She is so MUCH like a pastor. Back when I was a Christian and I used to go to this one really popular church, to keep the audience engaged he would say something and then say "Can I get an AMEN??!" and everyone would say amen. And then he would use like vocab words and whenever he would say like "faith" he would point to the audience and everyone had to say "faith" or you would get nudged/elbowed. "Everyone look at your neighbor and say 'JESUS!'" It's do patronizing but it keeps your audience feeling like you're fun ✨ and interesting ✨
I lost it at “Look at your neighbor and say JESUS!” It feels like the opening to a snarky comment. “JESUS! I thought for sure you’d be struck by lightning if you set foot in a church again!” “JESUS! The 80s called and even they don’t want that hairstyle back.” “JESUS! I can’t believe you’re sober on a Sunday morning.” 😹
@@pvanpelt1 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Finding out I'm the same height as BossLee somehow made my life worse.
Lol nova!!!!!
My variant would be a militant anti-vaxxer selling essential oils in a super culty MLM. My worst possible variant, that is.
She’s way more likable when she’s “low energy”. Also, I can see how she sucks people into mlms.
She’s so confident in what she’s saying that you almost want to believe her 😂
Your editing is hilarious.
And yes please, all the boss lee reactions. They are my favorite
I will definitely drop a red flag in boss lee’s chat 🚩
I’m so caught off guard when I agree with her on things 😂😂
I absolutely think it helps when managers have done your job and can relate to things at all levels because they worked their way up.
Just not in the context of MLMs 🤦🏻♀️
Perfect time for cardioooooo! Issa gift!
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hope on that stair climber girl ill make 30 mins pass real quick lol
@@IAMCCSuarez it made it go super fast!
I believe Pruvit did take the idea from another ketone company. That is why Pruvit had to switch the formula(used to be called Keto MAX and switch it to Keto NAT.)
Yep!
I'm suddenly obsessed with you Jess Lee coverage...
Instead of choose your own adventure, it's choose your own cult? I don't want to play. Lol. Also, I wonder if part of the reason BossLee doesn't say she was fired from the MLM because then it would blow a hole in their narrative of being a business owner. Can't fire a business owner, right? (I'm sure it's also because she just doesn't want to admit it, but gotta keep up that business owner narrative!)
Wait, I’m behind on this story…so she got fired? She’s not in an MLM anymore?
@@StormyLynn724 She's still in an MLM. It's past MLMs she was allegedly fired from. Check out Chelsea's deep dive on Jessie Lee.
STORMY CHECK THE DESCRIPTION BOX. I go over allllll that in my deep dive. she is still in Pruvit. but over the last 10 yrs she has been fired from two previous MLMs and lies about it
@@IAMCCSuarez thx! Watching it! 👍
chelsea: crack open whatever you got!
me: *opens a tub of hummus* :3
Omg😂😂😂
It’s beer thirty over here in delaware! 😂🍺
Yeeessss hummus ftw
Oooh yummy
She mentioned a nightly book club? Even at the best of work places no one wants to spend that much time together on top of work.
Nightly is just far too much. Weekly OK monthly even better
When you were talking about lazy engagement tricks.. one of my favorite parts of watching videos like yours is reading the comments. Seeing you and everyone else learn from others’ experiences. I’d never engage or click on the comments section if there were 60 flame comments followed by 60 ‘simple’ comments. Like. No.
I agree I really enjoy reading the comments and it’s nice to be able to look back at read through interesting comments, even months later. I don’t want to see repetitive, simple, bot-like comments lol
I may have said it before but the thing that kills me about these girls is that they'd KILL IT doing like legitimate above board sales. I think the only reason they don't is because then they'd have people like me pulling her into my office every two seconds and telling her to tone it down and to quit writing checks with her mouth that my ass can't cash (I'm a consultant in business intelligence so usually what our sales department sells is well...me! lol. My services and expertise to be exact and I've had a LOT of issues with sales people overpromising things so they can successfully close and then leaving me to break the bad news that no, that's not a thing)
But it kills me like...girl you could literally do the same thing at a legitimate business as part of a sales department and you literally LITERALLY could have insurance and a great salary, etc.
The first time she used the word “predicate” I was like oh okay she smart and then the fifth time she used it I was like 🙄
Why would she be having this type of training if she wasn't sneakily going to be moving on to another mlm or her own 🤔
Chelsea’s smoky eye look is amazinggggggg
She’s serving Yzma from Emperor’s New Groove
“PUT THAT BOX IN ANOTHER BOX MAIL IT TO MYSELF ANS SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER”
Kronk, pull the lever.....WRONG!!! LEVAAAAAAHHH!!!!
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I get cult leader. She is so manic. I would run far far away from her. She is up to something for sure.
Uppers fo sho
When you mentioned the Pruvit meals I had to go look them up and thankfully managed to find the CRINGIEST video here on UA-cam of people getting excited about eating tiny peppers that looked like plastic (deadset, I thought they were mock up meals designed for photo shoots when the woman turned the camera on them) dipped in ranch sauce. You go Pruvit, give us nothing!
I wonder how she feels about people checking her out as a potential upline like they'd check out an MLM corporate officer. Would she agree to meet with someone to talk about her failures, "field experience" history, back office, ect? 😒🧐
I thought Boss Lee’s ketones were the “miracle”elixir for energy, to combat sleepiness etc etc etc. hmmmmm sending you oodles of love
Ah just imagining these Jane Does, all emailing the CEOs of RandomMLM to ask them questions before signing up as rank 0
I am always down for another Boss Lee video!!
Is this her pitch for her own pyramid scheme MLM? Cuz it sure sounds like it!Psychic Chelsea called it! She’s starting her own MLM in the very near future. She knows that’s where the REAL money is.
Currently being buried in Michigan with all the snow...Got my cup of soup and am ready for my couch Queen, Chelsea!! 🤩🤩🍵❄🌨
The people who “just join for the discount and don’t sell or recruit” are probably actually the people who join up, then realise they got lied to about payments and work loads, so they abandon ship 🤷🏻♀️
I'm binge watching again! Hail to the couch queen!!👌💖 also...in 2016, I was pre-diabetic. I went on the keto diet. Didn't buy anything, just followed some doctors keto advice. I lost 87 pounds in 8 months and have kept it off. I had tried all kinds of diets all of my life. I am thankful I found the keto diet. Didn't join anything, just followed it... so to me, in my opinion and by my personal experience, the keto diet is not a fad.. but just telling you my story.. i am no longer pre-diabetic. My health is better than its been in years.🍾🍸
It’s a really good diet for people with a ton of conditions, but I feel like doing it naturally has to be 100 times better than adding some product full of chemicals.
Good for you for loosing all that weight!
Girl … you just casually picking your nose 😂😂😂❤️
Boogassss
I agree with her that you need to read policies and procedures. But the way she’s explaining it, it’s coming off like oh if you don’t like something then make them change it before you join. That doesn’t happen for everyone! Sure maybe a top person the company is trying to get to move over, but no average person is gonna be like oh I don’t like that part change it or I’m not joining. They will literally laugh in your face and say ok bye ✌🏻
Did she really say to a company “change your policy or I don’t join!” Or did I misunderstand that?!
That mascara was made in Chana and I was using it way before younique even launched!
WFABB will be coming for her soon🤣🤣🤣. Also, they only joined for the discount means your company is literally willing to let even truly apathetic people “join the business”! Why do that??? I doubt Burger King is signing on franchisees bc they really just want to eat burgers all day.
She said, you know someone is about to leave when they use the phrase “my company” instead of the actual name, then proceeds to use the phrase “my company” instead of Pruvit.
She said they’re about to leave when they say “my current company” not just “my company”
Is it just me or does Jessie look like she's aged really quickly in the last year? Like she looks so stressed and it's taking a physical toll on her.
I see it too and it’s so concerning. She looks totally ragged out. I feel for her. I use to do the same to myself and it was disastrous and didn’t end well! Learned my lesson and will NEVER live like that again. Not cute😑
Omg girl same my strawberry poundcake room spray does that. And god forbid I spray more than twice then I sneeze 😂
That woman is a wreck and her behavior is sneaky, performative, dishonest and not normal.
"Put a heart, put a fire, +1, +2, +3, a seahorse, a spoon in the commenntttssss" Girl no
My variant would be outgoing and outspoken lol
Super excited! My whole family has been hit with covid and virtual school so I needed a good video!
I'm amazed at how much money she has and still has a crappy hairstyle. That bun has a life of its own.
#IamBunLee
Love how she starts out by saying she’s not trying to recruit anyone, then goes on for several minutes about how important it was for her to have a ‘unique’ product and how amazing she felt the first time she tried them.
But she’s not trying to recruit….suuuuuure
On income disclosures- even if we took off the entire bottom rank where a percentage of these people may have signed up and didn’t plan to build- let’s just hypothetically say okay, we take out that entire bottom rank and assume ALL of those people just were kitnappers. How embarrassing of her bc those percentage numbers left are STILL SUPER HORRIFIC AND TRAGIC. Even if we adjusted all those numbers, it’s STILL really bad!!!!! Not to mention the top .5% of any company usually shows the very top leaders make somewhere between $5,000 a month and $500,000 a month. Like come on. The outliers are horrifically unstable and unreliable. Her huge position of “these are dumb,” just made her sound more dumb than usual. Even if we go off her logic, it’s almost even worst.
For every promoter there is usually 2 “ghost accounts” that they control and purchase through and sometimes those ghost accounts have an active autoship so people are spending at least $300/month and then they are made to feel obligated to buy 2 boxes of every new flavour that comes out every couple days
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The makeup is on point! I love the eyes
Wiggum in the big, squishy chair snoring his little heart out makes me so happy. I've had a rough morning with my special needs son, and I'm so happy to have a new Chelsea video to watch while I drink my coffee and cuddle him.
new video coming today and tomorrow too!!
i still can't believe that woman is ten years younger than me. she looks ten years older!
Okay so actually I did sign up for “just the discount” once (hear me out).
I signed up for YL to get the wholesale prices. Honestly! I never sold or tried to sell anything. BUT - as I was signing up to be a member, there were two options: wholesale member account, or sign up for an account with the intent of selling. The selling option had you input a lot of other info, like SSN.
So my question is - if other companies have the same set up (“just the discount” membership vs “intent to sell” membership), what are the income disclosures actually showing?
It wouldn’t make sense for my “discount only” membership to show up on the Income Disclosure…
Edit to add I am no longer a member with YL lol yikes
I was gonna say this! Several companies, not just yl, have made it so you can join as a wholesale or vip member but not be considered a promoter/advocate/ coach whatever it may be. I feel like they did that to try to help their income disclosure numbers… didn’t work… 😂
Most companies that have vip membership don’t count those people in the income disclosure. They use those members to try to say they have a lot of customers… but they leave that number off. Why don’t they say we have X# of discount vip members and X# of distributes and this is our retention rate from year to year
Oh because it is a scam and they don’t want to share information about the business customers
Can’t get over how much I love listening to u cover this wacky woman!!!!???
Sweet a new vid, I got the Rona as does everyone in my house. So grateful for all these awesome UA-camrs making awesome content so I have stuff to binge watch while under the weather 🤧🥴😊
Actually my fave make-up you've worn in a video!! 😍
thank you so much for uploading today! came at perfect timing. my college courses technically started two weeks ago but today was the first day we started in person again. having been taking online courses since march 2020, I had a panic attack and missed my first class. your videos really give me something to distract myself with. love you girl❤️❤️ keep doing amazing things
Ugh getting back to social situations when you've been soooo out of practice in that area is the worst. I remember explaining to my therapist about a year ago that I was struggling to leave my house because.....I hadn't been leaving my house. I require a constant slow drip of practice at being around other humans otherwise I forget how and have anxious meltdowns. It's been a bit reassuring to hear that other people can relate and understand exactly what I'm talking about though!! We're going through it -- be kind to yourself and keep trying your best! 😘
Oh yeah it's soooo hard to get back to social situations especially since that was sooo long!!! I wish you the best 🥰 you got this
@@tuckertantrums7733 tysm for your kind words!!
@@s0lastsummer7 tysm for being so kind! I forget that other people are struggling with this too! Hope the best for you
@@madisonrachel1292 you are so very welcome! I've been struggling with this as well. I have a hard time leaving my farm to do anything even grocery shopping now. I drive 30 min to Costco, get a couple things on my list get overwhelmed and have to leave before I can get everything I need. It stinks. You're not alone 🥰 and there is nothing "wrong" with you. That's what got me is thinking something was wrong with me. It's super common especially in the current global circumstances.
Definitely getting the vibe that she’s about to dip out of Pruvit. Doing a video about being successful in MLM without promoting your own? That is MLM blasphemy.
Edited to add: per Erin Bies’ story, Pruvit owns their manufacturing because one of the founders of Pruvit had already developed his own ketone supplement and owned his manufacturing facility. When he and the other founders started Pruvit, they originally used his ketones while he kept his own company, but that was hinky so they changed Pruvits formula so they wouldn’t be the exact same thing. So that one founder is making baaaaaaank.
Yeah its so strange. She's so creepy
Yeah it's super sus
For me, it's hard to believe that people still fall for mlms. Who's signing up???
Little clueless baby huns straight out of high school, sadly! They turn eighteen, leave home and enter broke college life.... they don't know any better yet, so when someone they admire on campus suddenly wants to be their friend, they'll do whatever they have to in order to maintain connections. They fully take advantage of young people. 😕
U would be surprised. I saw a tik tok a few weeks ago of a hun posting her aMaZiNg life and “opportunity” but I’m pretty sure tik tok doesn’t let u do the mlm
Thing so she was like come ask abt it at my instagram and soooooooooo many ppl were like mee me me! I was like absolutely stunned at the stupidity, and this is even w ppl saying don’t it’s a mlm or dont it’s a scam 😣
people think eating sugar will lower their blood sugar
My best friend joined plunder jewelry and I told her about the facts of mlms. She said she just signed up for the discount but she posts about it EVERYDAY 🤔
Plunder? What a perfect name for an MLM
@@maryeckel9682 omg I know right?!?! I couldn’t stop laughing when I doubled checked the definition in the dictionary 😂
deff wanna see the onboarding !!! 🤣🤣🤣
One of my variants would definitely be a red flag wholesaler. LOLOLOL.
Also you look sooo bomb - can't focus on what you're saying cause I keep getting distracted! WOWZA.
thank you!!! also I love that!
You’re spot on. She’s totally setting the stage to be starting her own company.
Regarding income disclosure statements, she’s repeating what Eric Worre said in the ridiculous GoPro “training.” ITS NOT FAIR, IT INCLUDES EVERYONE THAT JOINS. Ok, then give them a separate category. Oh, but then it will still look bad too…oops
Wait two weeks before joining my company, said no hun ever. And yes, please, do a video on the onboarding process!
This makeup and the black top are just everything. Happy Monday! I’m ready to start my week with some CC.
Hey hey Beautiful! 👋🏼 I’ve been real down in the dumps these last few days and haven’t been on much but I’m feeling a lil better today and am so glad to have one of your videos to help me through!💜
Also, quick side note, Because of you, I bought not one…not two….but three of those glosses! Lol #Amazzzzing 👌🏼🤌🏼
Hashtag: “Issa red flag 🚩 to join a brand new MLM.”
Also hashtag: “IT’S NOT A RES FLAG TO JOIN A NEW MLM WITH JESSICA LEE!”
Cult members: “She right, she right.”
If my boss showed up to a training like this… lmao
Being able to meet the C suite employees isn't always that great anyway lol I've worked plenty positions where that was the case and it's more frustrating than informational. 😂
YUP. I’ve met higher-ups at jobs who I was glad to not ever interact with on a daily basis
I still can’t get over the pictures of her downline all over her walls 😩🤣🤣🤣
It's creepy like what a serial killer would do 😂😂😂😅
They are making her rich! 😳
@@tuckertantrums7733 lol that’s actually kinda poetic like those r her trophies and she relives the moment she scammed them 😅😅
not me being here FOUR MINUTES after uploading!
Thanks for the live talkshow yesterday.... got me through a dull afternoon at work ♡
Yes please. I want you to make a video about the on-boarding! Thanks 😊
I have to say, Boss Lee has taken a smart approach in this video. She seems to be watching your and anti-MLM videos and noticed the arguments you make. So, to seem sensible she seems to be working those points into her monologues. She knows to address the red flag, the logistics of cash flow, and other issues that are often brought up. She is coming across as more reasonable. It's super impressive but so insanely manipulative. With the comment about how she makes her money from sales, she is so close to acknowledging that she takes advantage of people. It's scary to see that she's actually reacting to anti-MLM in an effective way! I try to do similar things at work, if I get criticism or need to respond to criticism in a way that convinces people of my point, I'm going to also do everything I can to make that person feel that they agree with me and trust my judgement. But she's being sneeeeeaaaky!
Edit: her extensions have also been less absurd and she isn't shouting as much here. She slows herself down and is stopping herself from going full typical lunatic-mode.
Edit 2: Perfect response to her statement about income statements being inaccurate - great point and not often discussed!
Love the red flag 🤣🤣👏🏻 damn. I missed your reaction videos 😅
Your makeup always looks good, but I am loving your eye makeup here. Super pretty!
Chelsea! I realised Peter Monn is on your list of creators and just wanted to say to a fellow fan that I miss him SO MUCH!
Talking about the “type simple in the comments,” not only is it a lazy way to increase engagement/ trick algorithms- it’s reminiscent of the call and response style of attention getting that churches often use.
Oh....90 day run I thought it was meaning go on a run for 90 days straight. I fear running bc gravity works very well for me and I fall A LOT; however going on a run for 90 days straight sounds more fun to me