"forza motorsport: more than a scam" followup

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  • @sepiV3
    @sepiV3  9 місяців тому +133

    5:17 just noticed thats the wrong comparison clip
    still, doesnt change anything

  • @parfcakezzz
    @parfcakezzz 9 місяців тому +247

    the fact that tokyo xtreme racer has more accurate replays than forza is simply baffling

  • @rosaria8384
    @rosaria8384 9 місяців тому +415

    I honestly think your "cheating in Forza" video was good to demonstrate how unsuitable Forza is in terms of competitive racing. If they're angry about it, let them be. Don't let it put you down.

  • @supreme_xenon
    @supreme_xenon 9 місяців тому +233

    Funny that this drama only happen in Forza community, not Gran Turismo, not Assetto Corsa, not Project Cars

    • @e-money9251
      @e-money9251 9 місяців тому +62

      It did happen in gran turismo. GT7 was being lambasted by longtime fans and yet its defenders waged a holy crusade in its name. The difference though is that the war went over rather quickly since not only the game was technically fine on release, most of its criticisms are about its lackluster career mode and race payouts, but also because sony and PD actually care about the series and quite quickly made changes to alleviate many of the concerns

    • @FranquitoMV2004
      @FranquitoMV2004 9 місяців тому +41

      Idk why, but most of the time, the Forza community gets very toxic agains other players from different but similar games just to feel superior, i started noticing it a lot since last year, i see a lot people on videos about NFS, The Crew or Gran Turismo, and in most of them i see several people who just came to comment *Forzais better* and then leave, ik they may just do ir ro bait for attention, but anybody pls tell me, is the Forza Community in general THAT braindead? To go amd comment about Forza being better on other videos just to feel superior to everyone else?

    • @WANDRRR
      @WANDRRR 9 місяців тому +10

      ​@@FranquitoMV2004 yeah ive seen those comments too lol its so goofy

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 9 місяців тому

      ​@FranquitoMV2004 very braindead

    • @Thot-Slayer-420
      @Thot-Slayer-420 9 місяців тому +1

      @@FranquitoMV2004 "shameful rammers" is one of the biggest videos of the series

  • @stevebuscemi3622
    @stevebuscemi3622 9 місяців тому +302

    T10 simps are cringe

    • @michaelvelez6699
      @michaelvelez6699 9 місяців тому +12

      Indeed

    • @FranquitoMV2004
      @FranquitoMV2004 9 місяців тому

      They are cringe and stupid

    • @xxneroxxx4996
      @xxneroxxx4996 9 місяців тому +25

      Agreed its difficult to argue with a genius but it's impossible to argue with an idiot

    • @MaeveSterling
      @MaeveSterling 8 місяців тому +12

      Not even cringe. They are pathetic

    • @THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK
      @THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK 8 місяців тому +9

      It's T10 AND PGG
      Don't forget they both worked in tandem with each other to "make" this game
      People often forget this game has 2 large teams and a host load of cash from Microsoft to make and they still failed spectacularly

  • @Seb123
    @Seb123 9 місяців тому +66

    All we can hope for is for older forza to come back. As you said a re-release of FM7 would be more appreciated than whatever hot garbage we got.

    • @Sammael66685
      @Sammael66685 2 місяці тому

      Microsoft is an absolute disaster/doesn't care/feels it's too expensive about renewing licensing contracts so that won't gonna happen. At all.

  • @ic3man
    @ic3man 9 місяців тому +52

    You destroyed that TPR guy. Good for you

  • @ejune98
    @ejune98 9 місяців тому +43

    Leave the cringe game to the cringe community, why bother anymore? Microsoft is already building notoriety for ruining a franchise, devs(some of them) are awful, I see no bright future for this game.

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 8 місяців тому +8

    2:00 On an elite controller you can still limit how high it goes without trigger locks on both the elite 1 and 2 and without affecting the travel distance of the triggers in the elite controller app on Xbox and PC. So you can get rid of the risk of locking up the brakes and have the same travel distance as with 100% triggers.

  • @dyaanahmad5079
    @dyaanahmad5079 6 місяців тому +11

    Leaving Forza and assetto corsa for Night Runners and Beamng Is the best investment ever

  • @ESV_Green
    @ESV_Green 9 місяців тому +130

    Force one has supposedly quit forza, because everyone had a go at him for his awful racecraft. nobody thought he was cheating, if thats what you were trying to say. he says that 'horizon ruined forza' referring to competitive horizon players entering the motorsport scene, pretty much cope and ego about players coming from a more arcadey platform, and being their pace/beating them

    • @sepiV3
      @sepiV3  9 місяців тому +90

      true 🤣who would have thought skill would transfer among 2 games with 90% the same physics

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 9 місяців тому +11

      Horizon physics being introduced significantly decreased the skill gap on Motorsport - you can't deny this.
      Dan is still one of the best on the game, regardless of what physics are used

    • @ESV_Green
      @ESV_Green 9 місяців тому +44

      @@Harmonic14 I mean ye if ur talking abt raw pace, not rly a physics thing when u can’t race without hitting ppl

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU 9 місяців тому +3

      Massive Skill Issue on his part lol😂

  • @ZoMTDU
    @ZoMTDU 9 місяців тому +27

    Its always crazy seeing drama coming from Forza lol
    *Just me casually playing a nearly 20 yr old game thats better than both games*

    • @KanManiac2506
      @KanManiac2506 8 місяців тому +5

      you're prob playing need for speed from the mid 2000's

    • @lincolndethomasis6602
      @lincolndethomasis6602 8 місяців тому +8

      @@KanManiac2506 the Project Gotham Racing or Burnout games of the same era also fit the description

    • @Woohoowi1
      @Woohoowi1 7 місяців тому

      ​@@lincolndethomasis6602stuntman ignition's race mode is way funner then Forza, even having no real cars and not being an actual racing game

  • @kaedeschulz5422
    @kaedeschulz5422 9 місяців тому +32

    Ok. I stick to GT where i don't have to deal with such things.

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 8 місяців тому +9

      To be fair, GT has a problem where the community keeps on babbling nostalgia, comparing GT7 to older games, and the complaints, but it's tamer than Forza's BS

    • @kaedeschulz5422
      @kaedeschulz5422 8 місяців тому +16

      @@rosaria8384 Who doesn't compare games to the older ones?

    • @Eonymia
      @Eonymia 5 місяців тому +2

      @@rosaria8384 It's actually a funny coincidence this comment is a few comments under some guy calling FM2 the perfect game, lol.

    • @varnix1006
      @varnix1006 3 місяці тому +3

      @@rosaria8384 NFS players breathes in nostalgia lmao, every NFS players overdoses on Most Wanted copium every day.

    • @NCC-0000
      @NCC-0000 3 місяці тому +2

      @@varnix1006 Tbh, as a NFS and Forza fan, Most Wanted is OK, but come on, it is old AF already, no matter how much people mod it, it still runs like the same game of 2005, and honestly are better Arcade / Simcade and Sim games than MW

  • @acrane2
    @acrane2 8 місяців тому +13

    I’ve played Forza since 2011 with the release of FM4 with my brand new Xbox 360. I’ve never been competitive or played Forza for anything above just fun, but even I have given up on the new game and it’s online multiplayer. It doesn’t take the head manager at Walmart to figure out how bad the game and its structure is, but actually finding out about the circle jerk at the top of T10’s development tree as well as Microsoft canning people 18 months into their job to avoid paying for benefits is sickening and for the first time in 13 years as a die hard Xbox player… I kind of want a PlayStation with GT7…

    • @Sammael66685
      @Sammael66685 2 місяці тому

      Spoiler alert, is not much better as well. There are videos doing over 5 hours of methodic critique done by GT diehard fans over here. If you seek them you'll find them.

  • @initiald975
    @initiald975 9 місяців тому +17

    7:05 - and that's why he thinks it's hax, although it's actually his skill issue. Same thing can be seen in MR:T, between my crappy times and AJ Ibarra gaming's setups. I had skill issue and claimed the lap wasn't possible with the current suspension setup, until it got to the point where people stated to say that suspension setup is up to the driver and there is no definite setup for a "fast" lap. Skill issue is a real thing too lol, and that other guy thinking he has reached "the peak of driving skill" is the mistake here.

    • @serge4192
      @serge4192 9 місяців тому +1

      ayyy MR:T person here

    • @initiald975
      @initiald975 9 місяців тому +4

      @@serge4192 although I play less often after carlton supremacy ended, and inflation occurred with t4 cars and their upgrades being outrageously expensive. Also I suck at turning and I wish there was a mathematical coding approach.

    • @FMV454_RIMike
      @FMV454_RIMike 9 місяців тому +4

      @@initiald975 i somehow made a non 22B tier 3 subaru be able to outrun a tier 4 NSX, but i agree on the inflation, not only tier 4, but all the cars are stupidly expensive and the upgrades are the same, meanwhile they made races pay less aswell as not posting new codes in forever, its like they are doing it on purpose to force you to spend time grinding, thats the major reason why i left both MR:T and PT, they got turned into grinding games

    • @initiald975
      @initiald975 9 місяців тому +1

      @@FMV454_RIMike Just like Swordbust 2 lol.

    • @巻木トリスタン
      @巻木トリスタン 9 місяців тому

      Depends on how you exploit the base code i mean in GT4 you can be fast with a certain serup who doesnt makes sense if you exploit you car can have an insane amount of grip, in real life one definite setup doesnt exist in games is up to the base code the one who exploit it is the one who is going to be fast, there is one setup to be the fastest though there are many posibilities before someone find that specific tune, and in a couple of days being fix by an update of 10mbs or less or being banned 😂

  • @kyperactive
    @kyperactive 9 місяців тому +75

    To ponder on the YT putting negative comments at the bottom:
    I think its actually the dislikes being used there to determine where it stays. More you have, the lower you go.
    Just a wild hunch though.

    • @DavideDavini
      @DavideDavini 8 місяців тому +18

      But sometimes comments that don’t have anything rude or malicious in it get deleted. In the sense that they disappear right away. It got to be automated. What I’m saying is that they seem to have some kind of machine learning algorithm to flag negative comments. I’m sure it’s used in conjunction with the like and dislike as well. But still, I would be surprised if they don’t use it to push down negative comments.
      Just speculations, of course.

    • @kaisersoymilk6912
      @kaisersoymilk6912 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@DavideDavinicomments get pre-moderated. As soon as you post, if you refresh the page you won't find your comment, but after a couple of minutes it will get approved (or not, and in that case you'll never see it again. But there is a trick to see the "pending" comments: sorting comments by "most recent").

  • @KosmicWolf
    @KosmicWolf 6 місяців тому +2

    This reminds me of the days of Black Ops 2, I got to prestige 2 and never went beyond that becuase I didn't care, but I kept improving and got good enough to consistenly be on the top 3 on every match, but there were people online with high levels of prestige angry and in disbelief that someone could be better that them

  • @teertaa
    @teertaa 9 місяців тому +22

    Meanwhile Grid community dont have any drama because of their minuscule playerbase 😭.
    But yeah forza players and redditors are on whole another level of "im his friend so i must defend him no matter what". This game is so similar with call of duty in terms of community and sometimes real life threats.

    • @mandrakeblackstone5838
      @mandrakeblackstone5838 9 місяців тому +1

      So true FM is also filled with cry baby 3rd rate racers who need a baby line to race . Most FM players have suck syndrome which is fitting as its not called Forza MotorSucks for nothing . Back in FM2 it was great no babies but in FM3 Bowkett and TPR started accusing everyone who beat their records of cheating , and crying.

    • @ChadwickThompson-i8s
      @ChadwickThompson-i8s 8 місяців тому +7

      Ridge Racer fans are emulating/playing the old ones wishing for a new one :(

  • @morgan3392
    @morgan3392 8 місяців тому +56

    I... Didn't realize you paid a guy to do voiceovers.

    • @theminecraft_gamersxx2815
      @theminecraft_gamersxx2815 6 місяців тому +9

      I assume its his older videos where its a different voice

    • @ishid_anfarded_king
      @ishid_anfarded_king 6 місяців тому +3

      how? it literally says at the start of those videos "voiceover by BiggishBrutBrut"

  • @AveryChow
    @AveryChow 8 місяців тому +2

    1:30 it's not an AI (at least in my experience) but rather UA-cam actually responding to people downvoting comments. I guess maybe it does use an AI for sentiment analysis + all of the people downvoting the comment and that's why it's hidden. very odd how UA-cam comments work

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG 9 місяців тому +18

    YOU HAVE A SECOND CHANNEL?!?!

  • @Vin80_
    @Vin80_ 9 місяців тому +7

    Damn and I thought NFS had it bad.

  • @chiseledmedal2634
    @chiseledmedal2634 4 місяці тому +4

    I am so happy I don't care(respectfully) about the community in forza games and just play them to have fun

  • @xartemis2147
    @xartemis2147 9 місяців тому +12

    Man it's the first time i'm watching any of your videos, started with the first one before this follow-up due to curiosity about FM and as an outsider with no game knowledge i can say indeed both you and the other guys seem overly aggressive, with no definitive arguments when "attacked". Both sides arguments look good in vacuum. BUT i can say this, their hate towards you is definitely coming as "you made that video about cheating so that means you always always cheat, that's the only proof i need" and i find that extremely goofy coming from adults with supposedly developed brains. And due to that i'm taking your side (yes i'm taking sides)

  • @NO-VlCE
    @NO-VlCE 8 місяців тому +3

    I support you 100%
    Logic over feelings. T10 is shameful and should offer refunds to everyone on steam.

  • @Ryzard
    @Ryzard 6 місяців тому

    With how inprecise these runs often are, I wanna see a trackmania guy spend a few months on one of these bad boys to see what absolutely insane time he woudl reach lmao

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean, I'm a trackmania guy but most of these players spend days in terms of actual IRL time hunting these times.

    • @existence3585
      @existence3585 5 місяців тому

      Trackmania and Forza are two entirely different games, it's much harder to be "precise" at Forza than it is at Trackmania.

  • @omerdeveoglu6791
    @omerdeveoglu6791 9 місяців тому +64

    Sepi at this point this thing became a pissing contest. My humble opinion is you are mostly right. You are a great youtube content creator and excellent player in forza games. Your old tuning guide and meta videos prove that. Yes you did cheat but your only reason was to show us how easy it to cheat and get away with it. You arent like those losers that cheat in call of duty games to satisfy their egos.
    I think its time to move on.

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 9 місяців тому +5

      So are we ignoring the part where he entered multiple tournaments, some of which he used VPN to illegally circumvent a geo lock, and used cheats to take prize money from people? You're okay with this?

    • @SkylineLofe
      @SkylineLofe 9 місяців тому +62

      @@Harmonic14 Is there explicit proof of this somewhere or is it just a massive he says she says?

    • @kyperactive
      @kyperactive 9 місяців тому +31

      ​@@Harmonic14There's no confirmed proof he took any money.
      He did partake with cheats, but there is nothing that says he got the money, unless you have something 99% of us dont?

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 9 місяців тому +5

      @@kyperactive we found out his alternate gamertags that he entered tournaments with. Everyone thought he was insane on Horizon for a long time but it turns out he was cheating. He tried it again in the Logitech event on the same profile he normally ran on Horizon but got caught. All of his points taken away after we told the organizers and game devs

    • @kyperactive
      @kyperactive 9 місяців тому +30

      @@Harmonic14 And how is this only now being placed out there?
      Im running under the guise this has legs mind you.

  • @mandrakeblackstone5838
    @mandrakeblackstone5838 9 місяців тому +30

    Cry baby Bowkett and his team are well known for filing faults complaints accusing people of cheating , Bowkett is not even that good I beat him many times and all he dose is cry then accuse me of cheating . The whole team is like that , Back in FM3 we had a team race where we smoked TPR , and all they did was cry because we forced off the baby line and collisions with damage on full , eventually TPR had the Team I was on Banned. I have had #1 track times taking off the leader boards because of Bowkett and his team of cry babies . Bowkett loves his baby line I say If anyone needs to use a racing line they have no business playing a racing sim even if they are just getting started , we never had baby lines in GT1 or GT2

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv 8 місяців тому

      Who are you? Do you realise that he literally won the Logitech competition without any lines and with collisions on? As the competition was stated to have?

    • @mandrakeblackstone5838
      @mandrakeblackstone5838 8 місяців тому

      @@pavvv I'm talking about Bowkett not Sepi read my damn message in its entirety. Like how stupid can you be,,, Sepi is a top racer, one of the best , But Bowkett and his team of hacks are 3rd rate at best .

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv 8 місяців тому

      @@mandrakeblackstone5838 you must be retarded cuz I was talking about bowkett lmfao

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv 8 місяців тому

      @@mandrakeblackstone5838 also not a chance you were anywhere near the top considering you can't keep your car on the track in any of the videos I saw you upload

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv 7 місяців тому

      @@mandrakeblackstone5838 that's crazy mate didn't ask

  • @HoxtonRules
    @HoxtonRules 8 днів тому

    Funny this game has the Mordhau comp syndrome. old guys know what im talking about here.

  • @DOOMSHOT6967
    @DOOMSHOT6967 9 місяців тому +2

    I had never played any Forza Motorsport game before so I was excited to get my hands on this game only to be very disappointed

    • @ILoveMySharks
      @ILoveMySharks 7 місяців тому

      wait, ik u its me sauce but i had changed my xbox gt now

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 Місяць тому

      Same. If only it was possible to repurchase FM4 or 3, or even FM6

  • @Arealteamplayer_
    @Arealteamplayer_ 9 місяців тому +12

    9th comment lmao
    also yea FM SUCKS its like if it wasn't supposed to be shown to the public

  • @arshkhanlm3086
    @arshkhanlm3086 9 місяців тому +20

    This game should have been delayed for a year

    • @zenksren8206
      @zenksren8206 9 місяців тому

      With MS' boner for contract hires it wouldn't do a damn thing

    • @Sammael66685
      @Sammael66685 2 місяці тому +1

      Like it would do something with a "release now, patch it later" mentality so ingrained... Even GT5 got delayed near a couple years from it's original releasing date and look what happened then.

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 Місяць тому +1

      The 18 month contractual period for developers isn't going to help even if it takes 7 years to develop this absolute garbage.

  • @authenticNL2
    @authenticNL2 8 місяців тому

    I mean you kind of did an Alex Gillion but you still have a point.

  • @JmarcusKmart12
    @JmarcusKmart12 7 місяців тому

    Tbh half these some off these people that are on the Dev team are sweats

  • @MaskNinjaSquared
    @MaskNinjaSquared 9 місяців тому +11

    7th comment
    I wanna see you re-rating FM4, 6, 7 and FH1, 2 (not 360), 3.

    • @Nightmareof94
      @Nightmareof94 9 місяців тому

      I’d actually like to see his take on the 360 version of h2 cause oh boy was it bad

    • @Sammael66685
      @Sammael66685 2 місяці тому

      @@Nightmareof94 Sumo Digital Seal of Quality indeed.

  • @1998lemuel
    @1998lemuel 9 місяців тому +9

    I swear these people's gigantic ego with the mustard seed size power and fame they got from being "top" players on this digital game that'll be forgotten in 20 years is hilarious. They are out here strutting around throwing accusations and acting high and mighty like any of this shit actually matters. In the end of the day this is just some bullshit digital videogame. It's not like anyone outside the 200k forza players out there is actually impressed with them being a "top" player. Mention that shit at a gathering and you'd only get weird looks as if it's supposed to mean anything. Their "world record" runs are nothing but 1s and 0s on a server because it's really based on nothing.

  • @akinahara
    @akinahara 9 місяців тому +6

    if you want to play a simcade game, play GRID Legends. Not- whatever the hell that game is.

  • @blocke2551
    @blocke2551 9 місяців тому +2

    god this game is ugly. i know you mentioned it in the last video but seeing it now is just yeesh..

  • @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse
    @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse 8 місяців тому +1

    Maybe you just had to give up the money right after the comp, admitting you cheated infront of people would be a bit dangerous, but it could made the reputation better. If you just announce yourself donating 300 dollars to some charity, you would be just fine immediately.

  • @ILOVEsnickers15
    @ILOVEsnickers15 8 місяців тому +1

    What happened to your voice between the cheating video and everything after? You sound like a different person

    • @mykal4779
      @mykal4779 2 місяці тому +2

      he pays someone to narrate

  • @JimmyProductions
    @JimmyProductions 9 місяців тому +7

    The fact that y'all are getting mad at each other over a bunch of pixels is crazy. This is why I can't take any sort of Sim-Racing seriously and moved fully into IRL Go-Karting. If I were you Sepi, just move on, it doesn't even matter at the end of the day. It's just become a pissing contest to see who can piss the farthest and accuse others of cheating.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 6 місяців тому +6

      This isn't sim racing mate, this is arcade racing. If you want to see sim-racing that would be Asseto corza, raceroom, iracing, etc.

  • @IamfoxesK
    @IamfoxesK 9 місяців тому +2

    salty comp community they cant take it that u got better time

  • @kiagon5606
    @kiagon5606 9 місяців тому

    You remember that other vid that i commented that FM is built from the air down, right? No? Then ok

  • @巻木トリスタン
    @巻木トリスタン 9 місяців тому

    There are more brands in Korea though hyundai is one of the biggest companies in Korea, Kia is starting to take the market though they dont sell in many places, Japan barely have Kias other than base models which are the worst, Kia and other Korean cars brands doesnt have the money Hyundai have for promotion, hyundai is sold around the world and have 43 per cent of the market in Korea, as many korean companies they buy promotion and ask for exclusivity thats a common practice between korean companies, they pay cash and in the contract says other companies from korea are not allowed, Hyundai and Kia are fighting for American and European Market thats why you only see Hyundai, the chinese new year is a festivity from china other countries have its own holyday around that day its completely different, Korea have a Lunar New Year which last longer and is completely different to Chinese New Year in case you didnt know, i have chinese and korean friends and they share me what they do around those days, completely different

  • @destrudot
    @destrudot 9 місяців тому +3

    second to last

  • @ChaserX90
    @ChaserX90 9 місяців тому +32

    you got banned for cheating in the Logitech rivals

    • @SeydIitz
      @SeydIitz 9 місяців тому +16

      cry about it

    • @gopikrishnapremchand
      @gopikrishnapremchand 9 місяців тому +33

      ​@@SeydIitzjust like how u did when u got banned in ISAD server??

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III 9 місяців тому +4

      oh the same guy

    • @DatSun.
      @DatSun. 9 місяців тому +8

      epic copy paste bro, really gets your point across

    • @FireStriker_
      @FireStriker_ 8 місяців тому +3

      I think that might be what happened but this guy does have a point about the fact it was a perma ban and not a temp ban.

  • @SeydIitz
    @SeydIitz 9 місяців тому +1

    fourth to last

  • @Albannt52
    @Albannt52 9 місяців тому +17

    Honestly interesting to see that you think it was the cheating video that ruined your reputation.
    Any time any (as per usual full of half-truths, so you cant help but agree with some things) video of yours comes up in the comp community, people are just sick of the shit you do.
    Its clear that youre unable to drop the topic and from a more "inside" perspective, its noticeable that you do in fact have a very general knowledge about things happening in T10 affiliated communities. It takes being high up in any of them to see just how much of your own imagination you add to those bits of info you have.
    The only reason you get views is becuse people see good points and just believe the rest. The Andrew Tate effect so to speak.
    Do better

    • @ObviousMediaYT
      @ObviousMediaYT 9 місяців тому +4

      well said

    • @DrSpoofman
      @DrSpoofman 9 місяців тому +70

      I never liked comments of this sort - saying "there's more to it than what meets the eye" and showing none of it. How about refuting the points you think were incorrect? If you are an insider, go ahead and enlighten the rest of us. The existence of those closed circles and their insides were exposed to the public to some extent, so if you believe clarifications are due, might as well do the due diligence and provide that clarification.

    • @Albannt52
      @Albannt52 9 місяців тому +7

      @@DrSpoofman believe it or not, a multi bilion dollar corporation doesn't like to partner with people that leak things.
      If you want confirmation that I'm a credible source, go into any competitive server and ask around. Sepi also doesn't provide context for many things he says and you don't seem so eager to call him out on that, do you?
      EDIT: this of course isn't proof of anything. Believe what you want to believe, in the end it's just a racing game and I'm just a person saying things

    • @projectgorgonfan
      @projectgorgonfan 9 місяців тому +60

      All your arguments are wrong. No I will not explain why, you'll have to do your own research. Ask anyone in my friend group, I'm credible

    • @Albannt52
      @Albannt52 9 місяців тому +5

      @@projectgorgonfan I've talked to sepi in private before and what matters to me is that he reads the comment and knows what i mean. Respecftully, i'm not required to prove anything to you and i will not waste my time trying to. Have a good day brother