Hello Simon, good informative video. Things i would reiterate/add (or what I try and do in my videos!) Give the viewer as much of the inside as possible, show the rope circle, the draught, guides etc (99% of the public will never get to see inside the tower. Even as a ringer when I drive pass churches, I often wonder what the ringing chamber looks like!) I also, try and video an interesting ascent. (GoPro has a good fish eye lens for those on a budget and has high quality video (HD/4K) and small enough to fit in your pocket) Ensure the video is stable, use a gimbal/tripod, or use stabilisation on the editing Outside and inside shots (not a lot of people know what happens in a tower, so it's great to give the public this perspective, as above) Never go anywhere you have not had permission, even if the door is unlocked (to the bells or any other floor! H&S issues aplenty and it's dangerous). Make sure the description is correct and also add details of the place/bells/weight is always great - Or link Dove! Striking and a good piece of ringing is imperative - Especially if you're ringing at a tower other than your own, as it looks bad. (editing usually takes out the mistakes). The public will not be able to identify if you're at your local church or not, so if they see ringing on youtube, they will assume it's the local band, so keep the video content at a high standard. There are many editing suites out there, windows media does a good job, but for 360 I use Movavi. For shooting in 4K, be warned, the file sizes run into the 100's of GB, so you need a high performance PC to edit and upload. The pro's out there, of course there is Adobe Premiere Pro. It goes without saying, never disrespect/play around/joke about whilst ringing, might be funny at the time, but doesn't look good. That's what i can think off the top of my head!
Thank you - I am glad you liked the video. I agree with every comment there - some bits referenced in my videos, some were not (e.g. the use of a tripod). Particularly imperative that the striking is a good standard - that cannot be emphasised enough. And very helpful to have the intro to other editing software, a much wider range than I could give! The 360 videos you do are very cool, and very unique!
Hi Ben Thanks for your comment - very glad this was helpful. I have subbed to you and look forward to watching some videos of yours once we get back to ringing. If you need any further tips - or indeed you find something that works well for you - do get in touch again. :-)
@@simonbellringer I am thinking of doing some belfry maintenance videos once lockdown is over. I also might do some Sunday ringing stuff from the belfry. - I can't wait to get started!!
@@BellringerBen belfry maintenance videos would be brilliant - there is a definite lack of these online. I for one would certainly like to see some "idiot's guides" to anything bell-work related, as I know little to nothing!
@@simonbellringer Haha!! - I agree!! There aren't very many belfry maintenance videos around and I do enjoy finding out about the history of the bells etc.
@@BellringerBen indeed, I try and include a brief history of the bells (and church) in my descriptions, and where there is anything or anyone of particular note (e.g. Yarkhill and Fabian Stedman). You could easily plug the market gap with some belfry maintenance videos :-)
Thank you for this. I loved Movie Maker 7! I don't like the Windows 10/Photos program. It took a while to get used to it. Your videos are great thanks for the tutorial. It took about 24 hours to upload my UA-cam video. My video of me ringing at Yarmouth was so bad I deleted it. I think I'm a better ringer now.
Thanks for your comment - you can still get Movie Maker 7 I believe! I am glad you like my videos. Plenty of time for you to make more film once we are allowed back up the tower!
Good video Simon Shaky camera syndrome is caused by going to the Gluepot before recording. The challenge is Liverpool Cathedral, I know you have filmed them but the accoustics are a shocker at Liverpool.
@@simonbellringer All good here Simon, I always enjoy your videos and a spike thelarki g around when the gang get together. Do you think you will get to Yeovil on the 12??
As in from hitting the "create video" camcorder button on UA-cam? Depends how quick your Internet is and how big your video is - usually 5-10 minutes from that point. Editing the footage ready for upload tends to takes a lot longer!
@@shanesquire1 that isn't right then! I would suggest something wrong with either your Wi-Fi and/or computer - but away from that, I don't know what else it could be
I appreciate that we want to try to show the best of bell ringing, but I record as is, a record of the tower I ring in, which is far from perfect as the band overall is inexperienced. If I waited for perfect striking, we'd have an empty channel.
Hi - thanks for your comment - it can be a tricky or gray area, I totally get that! I don't ever think I (or many/any other Ringing UA-camrs) insist on "nothing but perfection" going online - indeed, if you watch many of my clips, the ringing is generally good but there are blemishes - some people are more fussy than me about what goes online, others less so. I think ringing that is of a decent standard - i.e. no major crunches or pure crashing around - is the bare minimum. I think it also depends what you are trying to achieve - are you trying to show your band off? Is it a tower of recruits? If so, go for it - even some rounds or basic call changes, rung to the band's best ability, and which everyone considers an achievement - it doesn't need to be anything fancy! Perhaps that is a challenge for you when we do get back to ringing. And showing that video off to the Church and local community will instill pride in that band, or maybe even encourage more new beginners. :-) The alternative of course - if you just want your bells online and not necessarily the band - is to film a visiting or more experienced band ringing - this may need to be done outside, unless they are happy for you to film them inside! (And asking people if they are comfy being filmed is often the trickiest bit). I hope this is of help - but happy to expand further anywhere or anyhow! Simon
simonbellringer Thanks Simon, for taking the time to reply. Food for though. Looking to record a ringing room session tonight, something different if nothing else!
Excellent - keep the enthusiasm and energy going - we'll be back soon enough, and keeping "in practice" now, even if only on theory or via computer - and most importantly keeping the social aspects of the band going - will make it so much easier :-)
Hello Simon, good informative video.
Things i would reiterate/add (or what I try and do in my videos!)
Give the viewer as much of the inside as possible, show the rope circle, the draught, guides etc (99% of the public will never get to see inside the tower. Even as a ringer when I drive pass churches, I often wonder what the ringing chamber looks like!) I also, try and video an interesting ascent. (GoPro has a good fish eye lens for those on a budget and has high quality video (HD/4K) and small enough to fit in your pocket)
Ensure the video is stable, use a gimbal/tripod, or use stabilisation on the editing
Outside and inside shots (not a lot of people know what happens in a tower, so it's great to give the public this perspective, as above)
Never go anywhere you have not had permission, even if the door is unlocked (to the bells or any other floor! H&S issues aplenty and it's dangerous).
Make sure the description is correct and also add details of the place/bells/weight is always great - Or link Dove!
Striking and a good piece of ringing is imperative - Especially if you're ringing at a tower other than your own, as it looks bad. (editing usually takes out the mistakes). The public will not be able to identify if you're at your local church or not, so if they see ringing on youtube, they will assume it's the local band, so keep the video content at a high standard.
There are many editing suites out there, windows media does a good job, but for 360 I use Movavi. For shooting in 4K, be warned, the file sizes run into the 100's of GB, so you need a high performance PC to edit and upload. The pro's out there, of course there is Adobe Premiere Pro.
It goes without saying, never disrespect/play around/joke about whilst ringing, might be funny at the time, but doesn't look good.
That's what i can think off the top of my head!
Thank you - I am glad you liked the video. I agree with every comment there - some bits referenced in my videos, some were not (e.g. the use of a tripod).
Particularly imperative that the striking is a good standard - that cannot be emphasised enough.
And very helpful to have the intro to other editing software, a much wider range than I could give! The 360 videos you do are very cool, and very unique!
I would recommend using a wide angle lens for filming inside a ringing room, as it captures more of the ambience of the room
This is fantastic!!!
I have been wondering how to start doing bell ringing videos for ages!!! This really helped!!
Hi Ben
Thanks for your comment - very glad this was helpful.
I have subbed to you and look forward to watching some videos of yours once we get back to ringing. If you need any further tips - or indeed you find something that works well for you - do get in touch again. :-)
@@simonbellringer
I am thinking of doing some belfry maintenance videos once lockdown is over. I also might do some Sunday ringing stuff from the belfry. - I can't wait to get started!!
@@BellringerBen belfry maintenance videos would be brilliant - there is a definite lack of these online. I for one would certainly like to see some "idiot's guides" to anything bell-work related, as I know little to nothing!
@@simonbellringer Haha!! - I agree!! There aren't very many belfry maintenance videos around and I do enjoy finding out about the history of the bells etc.
@@BellringerBen indeed, I try and include a brief history of the bells (and church) in my descriptions, and where there is anything or anyone of particular note (e.g. Yarkhill and Fabian Stedman). You could easily plug the market gap with some belfry maintenance videos :-)
Very informative. Good guide to filming for UA-cam. A must watch for new youtubers!
Thank you Fred. Glad you enjoyed it!
Happy New year 2021
Thank you for this. I loved Movie Maker 7! I don't like the Windows 10/Photos program. It took a while to get used to it. Your videos are great thanks for the tutorial. It took about 24 hours to upload my UA-cam video. My video of me ringing at Yarmouth was so bad I deleted it. I think I'm a better ringer now.
Thanks for your comment - you can still get Movie Maker 7 I believe! I am glad you like my videos. Plenty of time for you to make more film once we are allowed back up the tower!
Very informative and helpful. Thank you!
Apple products you can install iMovie.
irene c I have it and it’s really good easy and user friendly.
Thank you both - I shall update the description accordingly. :-)
simonbellringer Hi Simon, great video. I also use iMovie which is free and easy to use, and still works out well
Nice editing technique!
Great video Simon!
Good video Simon
Shaky camera syndrome is caused by going to the Gluepot before recording.
The challenge is Liverpool Cathedral, I know you have filmed them but the accoustics are a shocker at Liverpool.
Thank you Steve - impressive memory of the Glue Pot, but it really is that good a pub!
Hope you are keeping well in these troubled times
@@simonbellringer All good here Simon, I always enjoy your videos and a spike thelarki g around when the gang get together.
Do you think you will get to Yeovil on the 12??
@@Steven_Rowe Maybe at some point! (I never rang them as a ten either, mind)
Very helpful! Thank you :^)
HI DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS MOVIE MAKER 7 ?
HI . HOW LONG TO UPLOAD A VIDEO TO UA-cam ?
As in from hitting the "create video" camcorder button on UA-cam? Depends how quick your Internet is and how big your video is - usually 5-10 minutes from that point. Editing the footage ready for upload tends to takes a lot longer!
@@simonbellringer when i do a video 10 minutes will take 3 days to upload .
@@shanesquire1 that isn't right then! I would suggest something wrong with either your Wi-Fi and/or computer - but away from that, I don't know what else it could be
@@simonbellringer HI . MY INTERNET IS TO UPLOAD VIDEOS IS 1 . 0 MBPS
I appreciate that we want to try to show the best of bell ringing, but I record as is, a record of the tower I ring in, which is far from perfect as the band overall is inexperienced. If I waited for perfect striking, we'd have an empty channel.
Hi - thanks for your comment - it can be a tricky or gray area, I totally get that! I don't ever think I (or many/any other Ringing UA-camrs) insist on "nothing but perfection" going online - indeed, if you watch many of my clips, the ringing is generally good but there are blemishes - some people are more fussy than me about what goes online, others less so. I think ringing that is of a decent standard - i.e. no major crunches or pure crashing around - is the bare minimum.
I think it also depends what you are trying to achieve - are you trying to show your band off? Is it a tower of recruits? If so, go for it - even some rounds or basic call changes, rung to the band's best ability, and which everyone considers an achievement - it doesn't need to be anything fancy! Perhaps that is a challenge for you when we do get back to ringing. And showing that video off to the Church and local community will instill pride in that band, or maybe even encourage more new beginners. :-)
The alternative of course - if you just want your bells online and not necessarily the band - is to film a visiting or more experienced band ringing - this may need to be done outside, unless they are happy for you to film them inside! (And asking people if they are comfy being filmed is often the trickiest bit).
I hope this is of help - but happy to expand further anywhere or anyhow!
Simon
simonbellringer Thanks Simon, for taking the time to reply.
Food for though. Looking to record a ringing room session tonight, something different if nothing else!
Excellent - keep the enthusiasm and energy going - we'll be back soon enough, and keeping "in practice" now, even if only on theory or via computer - and most importantly keeping the social aspects of the band going - will make it so much easier :-)
A good vid there mate! :D
Thanks mate! Good to hear from you - it's been a while!
simonbellringer yes it certainly has. Hope things are well with you. Stripped my channel. Got some new stuff coming some.
Great Video Simon!