2023 BMW M2, Competition Debut at Gridlife Watkins Glen - Project M2 TA

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  • Watkins Glen, a track that has been on my bucket list for years, finally became our destination on this year’s Gridlife calendar. With the M2 mildly prepped, we arrived with cautious optimism, but the looming rain was about to spoil the party.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 144

  • @rickvang7313
    @rickvang7313 Рік тому +4

    Whoah!!😮! That under steered to the wall scared 😱 the hell out of me.

  • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
    @FATmenDRIVEtrucks Рік тому +3

    I love that the old corvettes still hang with these brand new $80k+ vehicles

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +5

      Old Corvettes are insanely capable cars, they’re the universal answer and benchmark to be frank

  • @YardyMotorsports
    @YardyMotorsports Рік тому +16

    Jackie I'm not sure if I'm more impressed by the M2 itself, or by the fact that that you need a wheelbarrow for your b*lls the way you dealt with the conditions and WALLS EVERYWHERE. The wet sessions had me muttering "nope...nope" to the screen as I watched lol

    • @Shadowboost
      @Shadowboost Рік тому +3

      I still remember Jackie staying full throttle in the grass in the S2000. Craziest thing I've ever seen in a tin top time attack

    • @allyoucan69
      @allyoucan69 Рік тому +1

      That’s what it took for him to be a pro driver at a young age!

  • @Driver_407
    @Driver_407 Рік тому +15

    Going 90+ over the wet curbing at turn 5 has me on edge.

  • @ravenstylea2
    @ravenstylea2 Рік тому +15

    Weight savings would definitely help this big lady to go faster

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +7

      It’s coming!!

    • @MrRoni123456789
      @MrRoni123456789 Рік тому +3

      I don’t think losing much sprung mass is possible other than seats, carpets, door cards etc. unless you decide to pull out AC, stereo, and electronics. Most modern bmws are like this from my experience

    • @FoodFighter46
      @FoodFighter46 Рік тому +1

      @@MrRoni123456789 in my experience bmw interiors are ridiculously heavy, so losing most cosmetic parts could reduce up to 100 kilos.

    • @86Tony
      @86Tony Рік тому +10

      ​@@MrRoni123456789just seats and a light weight battery is a easy 100lbs

  • @jalloor
    @jalloor Рік тому +12

    Dude you are killing it driving that car for what it’s built for I hope.
    I hope BMW is watching and learning what some of their customers want.

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому

    I like this track.

  • @mjon5706
    @mjon5706 Рік тому +12

    Really appreciate your dedication to these high quality POVs. Going there for the first time in October so I'll be re-watching this one many times :)

  • @carterelly
    @carterelly Рік тому

    Would love to see some driving content at Ozarks International Raceway!

  • @c6manny
    @c6manny Рік тому

    Great video and great job bringing that car to the limit in tough conditions with a stock car!
    Next time you are at the Glen and have more dry driving there are several corners that you seem to be turning in a bit early which is compromising your exit speed and causing more mid corner-corner exit oversteer. As you’ve learned and mentioned, corner exit speed is very important at the Glen! 👍🏼

  • @SpyderRacing
    @SpyderRacing Рік тому

    tricky conditions, nice driving

  • @MYMOUNTAIN_122
    @MYMOUNTAIN_122 Рік тому +2

    Unfortunately this time around BMW have made the M2 a little too heavy Id say for any real track days, after a few laps and full tilt it takes its toll, the previous gen was a much better chassis weight wise for track use I feel, but this hasnt turned me off ordering one.

  • @86j
    @86j Рік тому +8

    Almost a v1 supra moment for a second there! Good save to keep it out of the wall.

  • @rjdasilva
    @rjdasilva Рік тому

    Great work! 😉

  • @adamlambert3892
    @adamlambert3892 Рік тому

    Awesome job Jackie and crew

  • @djsonicc
    @djsonicc Рік тому

    That was awesome. Very impressive driving and impressive car.

  • @DekiaryCarter
    @DekiaryCarter Рік тому +3

    Wow! This is the best track day video I’ve seen in a really long time. Filmed very well. Some of the track day videos can get boring after 2 mins. The M2 is super capable. Thanks for showing us what it can do. Love all of the digital meters on the screen. The quality looks great. Even my wife watched some of it and learned a few driving techniques when the car starts to get out of control.

  • @kevinhorn634
    @kevinhorn634 Рік тому

    You were a monster out there especially in the conditions. I made a cameo on p9 on the leaderboard!
    What’s your camera mount set up on your helmet? Chin mount? Great POV

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому

      It’s a gopro hat clip mounted on the top of the visor! And thanks!

  • @TheCombey
    @TheCombey Рік тому

    How do you mount the camera to the helmet? Pov looks so good and straight on. Mine is on the side so looks angles

  • @murdoch9106
    @murdoch9106 Рік тому +1

    Man, watching you almost binning another beemer scared the crap out of me! Lets not make this some sort of tradition! M-key!

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому +1

    I am only 3:22 in the video so far and it is good. Why is there a tesla on the track?

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 Рік тому

      It's autopilot was giving the owner a chance to take pics of cool cars up close at speed 😂

  • @JustinHEMI05
    @JustinHEMI05 Рік тому +3

    Jackie, I love what you and your team are doing with this car. I'm a weekend warrior with my G87 and will never push it to and beyond the limit that you do, but I really appreciate seeing what she's really capable of. It helps inform my drives and "track events" and autocross. Thank you for bringing us along for the ride!

  • @verde629
    @verde629 Рік тому +1

    Is there a BoP for this or is it just anything goes if you can afford it ?

  • @ToModorNottoMod
    @ToModorNottoMod Рік тому +2

    Hey Jackie, I have been subscribed since you started developing the Supra and continued watching your videos since then.
    I love cars/bikes but have not been able to get to the track, hopefully one day I will.
    This is the only channel I watch, that even though I do not have any of the cars you have I watch it because you are a genuine dude that love what you are doing.
    Keep sharing the content, I thinks it’s great even though I have no car to practice with. 😂
    I wish you a lot of success, but don’t change the format. Videos are raw and cool!
    Keep it up!

  • @M3_86
    @M3_86 Рік тому +1

    At least the wall is the same color as your paint lol

  • @mogulme6190
    @mogulme6190 Рік тому +1

    Corvette killer, but the thumbnail shows a c5. I’ve grown to really appreciate Bmw but cut it out.

    • @BoostdPanda
      @BoostdPanda Рік тому +1

      So, C5 are not corvettes now? Also he did beat a C8 and some other vettes, only lost to a heavily modded C6Z.

  • @lyndoncobb7077
    @lyndoncobb7077 Рік тому +3

    Amazing save at 4:06 way to keep your composure

  • @infidel900rr
    @infidel900rr Рік тому +1

    Can I please buy that M-traction control for my E90!!??

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому

      I swear, I’d love to buy it for our Supra too. Haha

  • @glenn3938
    @glenn3938 Рік тому +1

    Well brother that wall looks extremely close to a zandvoort blue..haha nice job that’s a tricky course much respect and be safe !

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому

    Second place! Congratulations. I hate wet roads.

  • @ShaiyanHossain
    @ShaiyanHossain Рік тому +2

    watkins was definitely treacherous that weekend but seeing the m2 develop gets me excited!

  • @sepg5084
    @sepg5084 Рік тому +1

    Sustained 1.3 Gs on cornering on the dry for a car that heavy, that car corners very well. Tire and camber plates really helped a lot.

  • @colemcmeans7809
    @colemcmeans7809 Рік тому +2

    so much wall

  • @jesseperrella
    @jesseperrella Рік тому +2

    Insane what this car does at it sits.. what a weapon.

  • @TranceFur
    @TranceFur Рік тому

    Wow, this is impressive. The fact that a 3800 lb car can pull 1.5g laterally on PS4S and stock everything (except camber plates) is wild.
    BMW’s working some witchcraft on their new cars, lol

  • @verde629
    @verde629 Рік тому

    Definitely an upgrade from the F87. The stock F87 comp brakes aren’t track ready

  • @BruBrusmayhem
    @BruBrusmayhem Рік тому

    I wasnt quite sure on the automatic versus the manual. after seeing your videos, I confirmed with my BMW dealership and signed an Auto Brooklyn Grey M2 !! waiting for allocation now !! Ill see you on track ;)

  • @Vgk36
    @Vgk36 Рік тому

    Front tires overheated (fatt pig 🐖) glove box flying open (channeling E36 vibes) 😂 I have an E36. Keep it light keep it right 👍

  • @NormalGuy
    @NormalGuy Рік тому

    Dang lots of excuses from the ding... Maybe diggs should take the wheel.

  • @autosenses2960
    @autosenses2960 Рік тому +1

    3:57

  • @The_Racing_Kraft
    @The_Racing_Kraft 7 місяців тому

    Just picked up my g87, looking forward to getting it out on track! Great driving!

  • @warrendennis9043
    @warrendennis9043 Рік тому

    awesome driving! curious on how you have your camera set up and what mount. doesnt look like side of helmet. love the POV

  • @pacoflyer
    @pacoflyer Рік тому +2

    Def a Scary track!

  • @ggkik
    @ggkik Рік тому

    Ηow do you set up tire pressure? For example, you start cold with oem psi and when got warm lowering down?

  • @DrSchroty
    @DrSchroty Рік тому +2

    Great video!

  • @dylanyang8220
    @dylanyang8220 Рік тому

    Almost a repeat of Supra there. Thank god nothing happened.

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 Рік тому

    I just keep thinking....tires...tires....those poor street tires! LOL

  • @CubanRider
    @CubanRider Рік тому

    The car is great, but the true hero here is you and your driving. We're all vicariously living through your videos.

  • @Shadowboost
    @Shadowboost Рік тому +1

    I've been waiting all week for this!

  • @mT_atvF5KCVHlk
    @mT_atvF5KCVHlk Рік тому

    When are you coming to Mosport GP? :)

  • @CubanRider
    @CubanRider Рік тому

    My man, that walllll 🤯

  • @MitchChubey
    @MitchChubey Рік тому

    Dont the head rests pop out to make room for helmets like the M4?

  • @carsontrack7351
    @carsontrack7351 Рік тому

    Is it just me but this car is understeering a lot?

  • @notavailable6472
    @notavailable6472 Рік тому

    1st time viewer. When I seent that save, I hit subscribe.

  • @vonknight5311
    @vonknight5311 Рік тому

    Excuse me, but did that say an AWD C8 Corvette in P1 SGT? I didn't know those were out yet. Would like to see more of that build.

  • @bikingshaun
    @bikingshaun Рік тому

    I’m curious why you have the engine set to Sport instead of Sport+. I have a G82 and I track it in HPDEs and have always used Sport+. I may have to try Sport this weekend though.

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +1

      sport plus in our experience has a really spiky ramping in that throttle, I.e. 25% throttle pedal input equates to like 50-60% torque demand. That’s the primary reason why we stick with regular sport!

    • @bikingshaun
      @bikingshaun Рік тому

      @@JackieDing86 thanks for the reply. I’ll try it out on the track.

  • @MikeBaloga
    @MikeBaloga Рік тому

    Still can’t beat the ugly out of that thing……😂

  • @erikmcgregor
    @erikmcgregor Рік тому

    Dude, loving the videos. It would be cool if you could do voice over instead of text on the screen. Makes it easier to watch in the background while in the garage etc.

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому

      It's an idea that we had before but honestly I would hate to put voiceovers above the car's audio. Between curbs and tire squeals and engine notes and all, I wanted that to be a clear experience!

  • @trevorbailey1448
    @trevorbailey1448 Рік тому +1

    You needed the downforce in that area you almost tap the wall it seems🤔

  • @Stepica
    @Stepica 8 місяців тому

    Stop making me like this ugly car Jackie 😂 Congratulations, mad skills!

  • @colin55594
    @colin55594 Рік тому

    Weight is too much :(. Might still get one lol

  • @marvinzhang3734
    @marvinzhang3734 9 місяців тому

    牛逼,ps4s 和 ecs02哪个好一些?

  • @JustinCFC
    @JustinCFC Рік тому

    Finally honored to make a few split second appearances in one of your videos lol. Dude, you were solid that whole weekend. I’ll see you at Midwest!

  • @MrDrivingFaster
    @MrDrivingFaster Рік тому

    Great driving bro. Ballsy too. QQ: how did you get that -2.2 camber upfront? Is there enough play in the LCA and top mount for that or did you use camber plates? Cheers

  • @JesusismyRedeemerandLord
    @JesusismyRedeemerandLord Рік тому

    Always great quality, editing, DRIVING and just overall tbh. This track had me on edge. Especially considering brand new car. God bless y'all!!

  • @ChinTrack
    @ChinTrack Рік тому

    Curious you use M TC setting at 5/10. Was the Supra TC off truly a 0/10 setting?

  • @borutgr
    @borutgr Рік тому

    3:57 nice safe .. anyway nice driving

  • @chisquare5701
    @chisquare5701 Рік тому

    150 mph on the back-straight; that car is faster than I thought. Very nice driving, and what saves!

  • @leoma95
    @leoma95 Рік тому

    Nice save on turn 9. That corner sneaks up on you. Glad someone is putting the M2 to it's pace on track vs just the polish and shine folks.

  • @motonvipr
    @motonvipr Рік тому

    This is the regular M2 right not the Comp like its titled?

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому

      It’s an M2, it’s our M2’s “Competition Debut” :)

  • @FoodFighter46
    @FoodFighter46 Рік тому

    How far would you go by weight savings? Those stock instrument cluster looks heavy

  • @edsaryan1893
    @edsaryan1893 Рік тому

    SOOOO hyped to see this M2 series! This vid alone was so freaking entertaining! Hell of a drive Jackie! And what a car!!

  • @TheUnicornblood
    @TheUnicornblood Рік тому

    How (and where) do you have the camera mounted on the helmet? Thanks

  • @fazeobama8872
    @fazeobama8872 Рік тому

    really pleased to see how well the electronic helpers play along. a few years back there was talk about tesla being so ahead but we put the hammer down and i dare say the new german interiors speak for themselves

  • @donaldmokgale3123
    @donaldmokgale3123 Рік тому

    Well done and congratulations on podium finish on debut!

  • @ixD9
    @ixD9 Рік тому

    What toe settings did you go with? It looks to me like you've got toe-in up front.

  • @oneonlyxram
    @oneonlyxram Рік тому

    Great driving, it looks like the car has a good bit of understeer, is that what you're feeling when driving?

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому

      For sure some understeer! Working on dialing it out when we get some suspension upgrades :)

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому

    It's finally here!

  • @TheMarkcu24
    @TheMarkcu24 Рік тому

    Thought you were about to need a new M2 at the 4 min mark. Nice save!

  • @bmwabbitnator
    @bmwabbitnator Рік тому

    Be more liner with the throttle, really choppy. Cool to see this car at watkins.

  • @pv4083
    @pv4083 Рік тому

    What oil are you running on this car while on track?

  • @jdmkidk24
    @jdmkidk24 Рік тому

    Awesome driving and can’t wait to see the evolution of this M2

  • @Taverius
    @Taverius Рік тому

    Seems like it's a great idea to get some Sport 5s to put on the stock rims for wet days 🌊

  • @jameslerner846
    @jameslerner846 Рік тому

    And at 3:59, yikes!

  • @TripSkyWalker
    @TripSkyWalker Рік тому

    The M2 is a Beast! but WGI is scary

  • @matthiastreiber4627
    @matthiastreiber4627 Рік тому

    I like your car!

  • @robinhoodproperties
    @robinhoodproperties Рік тому

    Amazing video.

  • @6Kubs3
    @6Kubs3 Рік тому

    The sun was in my eyes. The dog ate my homework. Any other excuse I can use for slowing dowm! lol lol. If only practice times counted for something! Nice job man! Incredible on the stock tire too!!

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +1

      Nice driving too Mike! Great battling you!!

  • @russfischer4381
    @russfischer4381 Рік тому

    Brilliant!...and a summer of events to come...

  • @MoneyShift
    @MoneyShift Рік тому

    Sorry if this was mentioned, I seemed to miss it, any reason to keep the engine in Sport vs Sport Plus?
    Awesome videos Jackie, this car with you behind the wheel is an absolute monster and I am stoked to see it evolve.

    • @BoostdPanda
      @BoostdPanda Рік тому +1

      Sport+ mode makes the throttle way too touchy so throttle modulation can be tricky.

    • @MoneyShift
      @MoneyShift Рік тому

      @@BoostdPanda thanks!!!

  • @z33taxi60
    @z33taxi60 Рік тому

    T9 is tricky, mainly because its where the NASCAR straight meets the road course. The camber, raised surface makes for some interesting approaches

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +2

      100%. Off camber in the middle and that caught me out on the early session!

  • @freytheviking
    @freytheviking Рік тому

    Love the video. What helmet cam set up do you use?!

  • @camxiong
    @camxiong Рік тому +1

    Savagegeese just did a video comparing the Supra and M2, on the same tires the Supra was over a second faster...are you sure you made the right move?

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Рік тому +2

      each car has trade offs. Supra bad visibility, wind buffeting and strict two seater. The M2 is just fat and has more lifeless steering

    • @pacoflyer
      @pacoflyer Рік тому +5

      It's actually only .3 tenths faster that was an editing mistake. AND that was the manual. The auto version is just faster period.

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +15

      If you watch our video, it’s on the same track. SG’s Supra, with RE71RS tires did a 1:33.72. Their M2, with RE71RS tires, did 33.9. Our M2, with OEM Pilot Sport 4s (known slower tires), did 1:33.0. So yea, I think we did make the better choice.

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Рік тому +3

      ​@@JackieDing86 With all due respect Jackie, you can't compare the S58 with the B58. You're a gearhead and know the S58 is an engine with a higher ceiling and far superior. The Savageese review is for clout and clicks. Stock M2 and stock Supra can't be in the same sentence. I have a 2023 A91 6MT and I would NEVER think I'm better or faster than a G87. I'd have to tune and build my Supra to get anywhere near the G87s potential.

    • @BoostdPanda
      @BoostdPanda Рік тому +2

      They said the same tire, but RE71RS is not even available in the correct F&R size for the M2. So something is fishy in their video IMO.

  • @jameslerner846
    @jameslerner846 Рік тому

    would be cool to see throttle and brake application

  • @mm8436
    @mm8436 Рік тому

    Weak! Couldn't even beat a Civic /s

  • @grezza112
    @grezza112 Рік тому

    Random question but is it a regulation to have no front windows up? Only asking as I can’t imagine it helps aero.

    • @BoostdPanda
      @BoostdPanda Рік тому

      Yes, in the USA almost all race organizers require both front windows down on tracks.

  • @nathanacuna
    @nathanacuna Рік тому

    Amazing skills Jackie! Well done.

  • @alexamorin5534
    @alexamorin5534 Рік тому

    3:59 saved it

  • @nathanielbarbeau4821
    @nathanielbarbeau4821 Рік тому

    12:45 “He did that better than me…” 😆😆😆

  • @ownologer
    @ownologer Рік тому

    whats your thoughts on the +200hp gains from downpipe+ tune?

    • @JackieDing86
      @JackieDing86  Рік тому +5

      We’ll do it, just not yet! Haha. I think we all know what the S58 is capable of, not surprised, just excited.