Having taught biblical Greek and Hebrew for most of 40 years, I deeply appreciate your videos. You are doing a real service! May God make your labors fruitful.
😂 ~ Darryl, thanks for all that you’re doing to encourage us in continuing to learn Biblical Greek. My wife and I were on an extended vacation during the month of August. I’m slowly trying to catch up with all of the Greek videos that I missed.
😂THGNT: Beautiful font indeed! And don't let the order of the books concern you. Hunting them down helps us to learn! Some may wish to have a balanced set which reflects historical reallity: NA/USB, THGNT, Robinson-Pierpont, TR (Stephaphus/Scrivener, modern font). Also, there are some good free or inexpensive PDF files out there. Thanks for your insights! 🙏📖
1567 Beza is my favorite Greek text, but the best learning tool for me was William Mounce memory cards with a JP Green Interlinear NT. I learned to read and write miniscule script with a Strongs Concordance and Greek Lexical Dictionary. I, of course, advanced my studies thru Liberty U and online teaching from Bill Mounce. Still learning and growing daily.
😂 I love my THGNT! I also have the journals which I use to translate the text. Happy to report that I have been able to bypass the reader's edition due to BMA's system of learning to read by vocabulary rather than occurrence. It is so exciting to be able to pick up my GNT and read fluently.
😂. Why not download the SBL Greek NT pdf as a starting point? I can read it on my iPad, highlight and write comments to myself as desired (and erase completely). Seems like a perfect way to start, and price is no barrier. I can/will buy a physical copy later on after I know a little more.
My experience is that the best beginning text is the regular ABS text. The subject heading alert the students to the content of what they are about to read. The apparatus is high selective making it much smaller and more useable than the NA. I still often read my ABS first edition, because of superior font. A few places I saw the letters ΑΒΣ, which I am sure was a typo for ABS! I prefer the separate ABS Dictonary by Newman, rather than the combination editon. Listing irregular verbs in ABC order turns that little gem into a handy minature analytical lexicon.
The NA/UBS paper isn't low quality, it's just thin. I've always thought they were beautifully produced for what are essentially academic products. But yes, the THGNT is better for daily reading and I enjoy my rebound Cambridge edition.
For a physical copy, THGNT seems to be the best, but a bit pricey. Any thoughts about the physical copy of the SBL GNT? It seems more affordable, but i don't know if the quality is any good. I know NA28/UBS5 is great for many things like apparatus, but I personally find the quality isn't as good as THGNT in my opinion, so I'm not sure if SBL quality is closer to THGNT quality or NA28/UBS5 quality. Maybe it's worth spending the extra money for the THGNT. (I know the SBL GNT is free to download as a pdf, but I like physical copies.) 😊
Becareful with your generalization. The THGNT editors have as one of their guiding rules to base their text on at least two Greek Manuscripts and one of which must be from at least the fifth century. So saying there isn't any manuscript that supports their text shows you are uninformed on all their different methodologies and would willingly commit fallacy in that state. I'll advice that you don't form uninformed opinions, built largely and sentiments and unclear general concensus or hearsay. I don't mean to offend, only to admonish you based on your statement which was laden with fallacies.
@@oswaldumeh you misunderstood me there. ofc they have there are mss that support their verse/their picking, but their text as a whole, their GNT, does not exist as an ancient manuscript in such form. its a forged text. also, did you know that literal atheists helped to create the critical and eclectic GNTs? NA's GNT for example and there for UBS' GNT as well are literally created forged texts by atheists. and by that fact alone, i have to discard and reject anything made by these folks. there are people and organisations who are actively agitating against God and now they start putting their people in positions (editorial committee of NA for example) who are creating the basic greek text for modern (and most) bible translations nowadays. ltierally people who are paid by the richard dawkins foundation and/or are member of any other group/organisation by said foundation are working on creating GNT's to translate for the masses. idk about the THGNT, i didnt do any reasearch about that one so far if there are or were any atheists involved. i for example have all all versions/editions of the GNT. NA, THGNT, TR and majority/byzantine. i compare them side by side almost every time when i read the greek new testament.
In a language foreign to most people with over 600 archaic words or words of changed meaning. If you prefer the KJV thats fine, but just because of English alone it probably shouldn't be read.
The earliest editions of the Textus Receptus were produced by Erasmus who was a Roman Catholic and argued against Martin Luther in favour of free will.
@@JoshuaBelugaHuggett Erasmus was against many Roman Catholic doctrines, and many protestants even today disagree with each other over predestination and free will.
@@JoshuaBelugaHuggett Codex Vaticanus was found in the Vatican library in the 14th century with no explanation, and no scholars were allowed to examine it until the 19th century. There is no backstory to the Codex. Even if it was a "good" copy, why did nobody use it? Good copies would get used to the point they disintegrated, and those copies were passed on to the Textus Receptus. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus disagree with just each other alone in over 3,000 places.
@@HeavyHeartsShow My comment has nothing to do with the quality of Vaticanus or Sinaiticus but with the notion that "The KJV has brought both the Old & New Testaments together." But I did misspeak - Sinaiticus is generally understood to be the older manuscript.
Having taught biblical Greek and Hebrew for most of 40 years, I deeply appreciate your videos. You are doing a real service! May God make your labors fruitful.
😂 ~ Darryl, thanks for all that you’re doing to encourage us in continuing to learn Biblical Greek. My wife and I were on an extended vacation during the month of August. I’m slowly trying to catch up with all of the Greek videos that I missed.
😂THGNT: Beautiful font indeed! And don't let the order of the books concern you. Hunting them down helps us to learn! Some may wish to have a balanced set which reflects historical reallity: NA/USB, THGNT, Robinson-Pierpont, TR (Stephaphus/Scrivener, modern font). Also, there are some good free or inexpensive PDF files out there. Thanks for your insights! 🙏📖
1567 Beza is my favorite Greek text, but the best learning tool for me was William Mounce memory cards with a JP Green Interlinear NT. I learned to read and write miniscule script with a Strongs Concordance and Greek Lexical Dictionary. I, of course, advanced my studies thru Liberty U and online teaching from Bill Mounce. Still learning and growing daily.
😂 great content again. Thanks for the work and for sharing your thoughts.
😂 I love my THGNT! I also have the journals which I use to translate the text. Happy to report that I have been able to bypass the reader's edition due to BMA's system of learning to read by vocabulary rather than occurrence. It is so exciting to be able to pick up my GNT and read fluently.
That is awesome!
😂. Why not download the SBL Greek NT pdf as a starting point?
I can read it on my iPad, highlight and write comments to myself as desired (and erase completely). Seems like a perfect way to start, and price is no barrier. I can/will buy a physical copy later on after I know a little more.
My experience is that the best beginning text is the regular ABS text. The subject heading alert the students to the content of what they are about to read. The apparatus is high selective making it much smaller and more useable than the NA. I still often read my ABS first edition, because of superior font. A few places I saw the letters ΑΒΣ, which I am sure was a typo for ABS! I prefer the separate ABS Dictonary by Newman, rather than the combination editon. Listing irregular verbs in ABC order turns that little gem into a handy minature analytical lexicon.
The NA/UBS paper isn't low quality, it's just thin. I've always thought they were beautifully produced for what are essentially academic products. But yes, the THGNT is better for daily reading and I enjoy my rebound Cambridge edition.
Thanks, Dr. Burling. I also use the THGNT. It is the best for me. 😂
For a physical copy, THGNT seems to be the best, but a bit pricey. Any thoughts about the physical copy of the SBL GNT? It seems more affordable, but i don't know if the quality is any good. I know NA28/UBS5 is great for many things like apparatus, but I personally find the quality isn't as good as THGNT in my opinion, so I'm not sure if SBL quality is closer to THGNT quality or NA28/UBS5 quality. Maybe it's worth spending the extra money for the THGNT.
(I know the SBL GNT is free to download as a pdf, but I like physical copies.) 😊
I've seen hard cover copies of THGNT on sale at ChristianBook for $12 (a couple of years ago now), so it might be worth waiting for a sale.
@@bma Thanks so much, Darryl, I'll keep a look out for those deals then! ☺️
THGNT has a Scripture Journal I love.
Space to make the notes.
🤣I have the THGNT and a older NA 2nd edition (1968). I am now looking for something with larger print.😁
Question: What text tradition do you use or favor? Byzantine or Modern Critical Text?
I tend toward eclectic texts. I don't really use the modern Critical editions other than for the apparatus occasionally.
Best Greek New Testament is whatever you have + BMA Greek Vocab Pack. I've been enjoying it at least :) But is there anything similar for Hebrew?
We are working on it!
You made this video for me!
Grabbed the guide
Glad I could help!
😊 Great
byzantine text = best
eclectic texts are per se bad because they is not single manuscript thats supports that text, because its eclectic.
that's the reason why they are considered good because nobody accurately copied the original manuscript....all u can do is do comparison
Becareful with your generalization. The THGNT editors have as one of their guiding rules to base their text on at least two Greek Manuscripts and one of which must be from at least the fifth century.
So saying there isn't any manuscript that supports their text shows you are uninformed on all their different methodologies and would willingly commit fallacy in that state.
I'll advice that you don't form uninformed opinions, built largely and sentiments and unclear general concensus or hearsay. I don't mean to offend, only to admonish you based on your statement which was laden with fallacies.
Don't forget that Byzantine texts are also eclectic to some extent. There are no absolutes here and lots of bluster.
@@bma I understand they are like the MT
@@oswaldumeh you misunderstood me there. ofc they have there are mss that support their verse/their picking, but their text as a whole, their GNT, does not exist as an ancient manuscript in such form. its a forged text.
also, did you know that literal atheists helped to create the critical and eclectic GNTs? NA's GNT for example and there for UBS' GNT as well are literally created forged texts by atheists. and by that fact alone, i have to discard and reject anything made by these folks. there are people and organisations who are actively agitating against God and now they start putting their people in positions (editorial committee of NA for example) who are creating the basic greek text for modern (and most) bible translations nowadays.
ltierally people who are paid by the richard dawkins foundation and/or are member of any other group/organisation by said foundation are working on creating GNT's to translate for the masses.
idk about the THGNT, i didnt do any reasearch about that one so far if there are or were any atheists involved.
i for example have all all versions/editions of the GNT. NA, THGNT, TR and majority/byzantine. i compare them side by side almost every time when i read the greek new testament.
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KJV still continues to be the most accurate following the Received Texts.
In a language foreign to most people with over 600 archaic words or words of changed meaning.
If you prefer the KJV thats fine, but just because of English alone it probably shouldn't be read.
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Man. 99.9% of English speakers have a hard time just understanding an English version…
The Textus Receptus is the inspired word of God... not copies of copies made be free will roman/pagan catholic papist idol worshipers.
@@Kinetic.44 u think Textus Receptus is created by Lutherans🤣
The earliest editions of the Textus Receptus were produced by Erasmus who was a Roman Catholic and argued against Martin Luther in favour of free will.
@@JoshuaBelugaHuggett Erasmus was against many Roman Catholic doctrines, and many protestants even today disagree with each other over predestination and free will.
@@HeavyHeartsShow Yes, but I was responding to the "free will roman/pagan catholic papist idol worshipers" comment.
😂 $200 😮
I know!
The KJV has brought both the Old & New Testaments together.
And all you people that are making money on God's Word ought to repent!!!
Our oldest Bible that contains both Testaments is Codex Vaticanus, from ca. 350. A little before 1611.
@@JoshuaBelugaHuggett Codex Vaticanus was found in the Vatican library in the 14th century with no explanation, and no scholars were allowed to examine it until the 19th century. There is no backstory to the Codex. Even if it was a "good" copy, why did nobody use it? Good copies would get used to the point they disintegrated, and those copies were passed on to the Textus Receptus. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus disagree with just each other alone in over 3,000 places.
@@HeavyHeartsShow My comment has nothing to do with the quality of Vaticanus or Sinaiticus but with the notion that "The KJV has brought both the Old & New Testaments together." But I did misspeak - Sinaiticus is generally understood to be the older manuscript.
@@JoshuaBelugaHuggettWrong, you forgot to say it’s the “Oldest and Best.”
@@Imsaved777 Recent textual criticism has tended to view Vaticanus as generally more reliable than Sinaiticus.
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