Thanks for your review. I have so much to learn and I have watched so many reviews that it all just gets mushed together in my brain. What I liked in your review was its clear usage comparisons and honest approach. Thank you.
The S10+ is capable of DECODING 24/192, but it will truncate analog output to 16/44.1. The toslink output is not 24/192. It is also 16/44.1 as far as I know and from looking on Arylic website. Just a heads up...
Can you connect a tv thru the digital port in one S10+ unit, and play the tv sound in other rooms with other units? like multi-room that you can choose what gonna play in each room
Sir, 1. I have a Yamaha AV receiver (HTR 3066) that supports an optical input but does not have Bluetooth. 2. My TV is an older LED model (non-smart) without an optical audio output but does have a 3.5mm audio output, which I currently use for connecting external sound systems. 3. I want to use my AV receiver with a digital audio option for better sound quality. Since my AVR has an optical input and the Arylic device has an optical output, I can connect them to enable Bluetooth functionality. However, the Arylic also has a 3.5mm audio input option. If I connect my TV to the Arylic using the 3.5mm cable, will the sound from the TV then play through the AVR via the Arylic?
Yes if you connect analog line out from TV to line in of Arylic, you can play on AVR. But then the Arylic is converting the Analog tv signal to digital and then sending to AVR via digital which the AVR then converts back to analog. You should have better quality connecting TV to AVR with 3.5mm to RCA cable and keeping signal analog all the way through. But yes you can.
@@RickRuizAudio Sir, as per my thoughts his TV don't have any analogue out put on his TV which says so can you say further?😢 His TV have digital output 3.5m.
First sorry for my bad English. Connect the AVR to the TV using an optical cable through the output option, and if the line-in is connected to my TV, the sound from the TV will play through my sound system. This question is for acrylic. Thanks 😊
Of you want to use Arylic for streaming music to your AVR, the. Optician output from Arylic to an optical input on AVR. Or if you don't have an extra optical input on AVR Bec you have TV using the only optical, you will need to use analog line out on Arylic to RCA input on AVR.
I think the far superior user interface/app makes the mini the clear winner. I run the mini streaming direct via Tidal, Spotify or Amazon music to an SU-1 DAC via optical and the sound quality is startlingly good, even with a basic power supply. Still looking for a good quality inexpensive power supply to take this pairing another step higher.
Hey Jems, glad it's working for you. What part of the WiiM interface do you feel is far superior? The EQ section or Tidal Connect? I'm going to build a Streamer with DDC and I'm still on the fence about what platform I want to base it on. For me, since I don't use the EQ, the Arylic is the same as the WiiM. But I do like the Tidal Connect option. But Arylic has an option with that as well, although for more money ($150). Then there's my preferred streamer, the Cambridge but now we're starting at $500 and with the DDC components it's going to put me over $1200 and I would love to keep it under $1000. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas 🎄 👍
@ good questions and you can’t really go wrong with either. For me the WiiM interface navigation has been simple and intuitive. I use the mini and SU-1 to feed digital music into a vintage system that is geared towards vinyl (a late 70s Kenwood receiver and large Advents). So for me direct streaming lossless tunes with the ability to use the eq to adjust for the vintage system makes for a great (and really inexpensive!) package. Listening to it now, and wondering if I want to try adding in the new SMSL CD player…..could be a very different calculus for you if you don’t need the eq.
WiiM is an excellent choice for streaming, especially since it requires no subscription. However, a worthy alternative to consider-particularly for those looking to customize their setup-is the DIY approach. Using a Raspberry Pi with a dedicated streaming distribution offers flexibility and performance that rivals budget streamers, allowing you to tailor the experience to your exact needs.
Yeah, DIY is definitely fun. Or at least it is for me, but i understand some people can get intimidated. I'm working on upgrading a streamer with a reclocker and linear power supply so hopefully I'll have that video up soon. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
I have two questions (I am layman, sorry). I use youtube music streaming, and i think they dont have this different technology connection you are talking about (spotify, tidal and airplay). So, in this case, will I still have some benefits of play music via wifi than normal bluetooth? If so, which ones? I have no DAC, and want to buy a simple one that is at least a little better than the one on my smartphone, and I like the idea of playing music without needing to stop to liscening an audio message hahaha but my fear is that this ability will be too expensive, by comparing with using a true decent DAC with normal bluetooth for about the same price (like the smsl su1). So what you think? Sorry by my english 😬 and great video!
Unfortunately, the Arylic does not integrate UA-cam Music. You can send via Bluetooth but then I would suggest a DAC like you state in second question. Get SMSL PS200! That one has Bluetooth also. amzn.to/3ZGfrmH
@@RickRuizAudio What do you think about its predecessor model, the ps100? Its also worth the money? The "200" model will cost too mutch here in Brazil (half of a minimun wage!)
Hi Johannes, yeah, I'm curious about that one. I didn't like the original K11 with the single CS chip. I found it lacking detail. But I'm very interested in the K11 R2R. I'll try to get one soon 👍 and thanks for watching
I have this Smsl Su-1 + Arylic S10+ combo with Fx Audio T03 tube preamp(modified) which sounds great. But the S10+ drops out intermittently while on wifi and USB pen drive. It gets worse with BT connection. Good thing I don't use BT. The Upstream crashes frequently. If it works, it's too slow. I bought it for $34.20 on sale + discount vouchers.
That's odd. Maybe you're getting interface with something else or you got a bad unit. I don't use the S10+ on wifi, just wired, but I have a Up2Stream 2.1 amp in my back patio over wifi that has never dropped out. But I'm on a mesh network with good coverage. Maybe that's it. Have you tried a WiiM?
Full Parametric EQ is key advantage of wiim mini. Basic EQ starting from 125hz is unfortunately useless in comparison, thus can not be alternative for wiim. Also, wiim mini is working as multiroom with phenomenal wiim ultra which do not have any competition on the market.
I suppose maybe for some it is a nice thing to have. In my system, with the mini, when I turn the PEQ on before even making adjustments, the soundstage flattens, so I keep it off, and I don't use the Mini in my main listing system. I use it for other zones. The Pro doesn't do this. It seems to handle the EQ better. As for the multiroom, the S10+ is multiroom as well and can work in combination with other Linkplay products. I think it's about what you wanted to accomplish with your system. If you have speakers that don't need adjustment under 125hz, say you have a simple 2 way that rolls of nicely at 50hz, the point in moot. Of course if you do need it to integrate a sub or need to add bass, when you know which to get. Thanks for the input. I appreciate the perspective 🙏
@@RickRuizAudio Parametric EQ is not only needed for correction below 125hz. Possibility to pick exactly choosen frequency within whole spectrum with required Q factor results in efects on simply different level in comparison with classic fixed EQ. On wiim mini whole room adaptation can be performed. There is no auto option as in pro and ultra, but auto option is in fact not needed. Parametric EQ can be used manually with measurements tool. In case of equipment or room which needs corrections, potential slightly loss in sound stage doesn't matter - frequency corrections are much more important for effect. One from main benefit of usung wiims product is simply powerfull dsp. It's mainly useful for bass management (in 20-200khz range, speakers can roll of at 50hz, but still may require correction for example on 72hz or at any other spectrum points), but in whole spectrum also. Q factor and exactly, precise frequencies are keys. Fixed values are not enough. If s10 can work in multiroom setup with wiim ultra, then this point is not valid from my side :)
Thanks for your review. I have so much to learn and I have watched so many reviews that it all just gets mushed together in my brain. What I liked in your review was its clear usage comparisons and honest approach. Thank you.
Thanks Chris. I appreciate it! And thank you for watching 👍
Very interesting comparison. I do like the "all outputs are live" feature. I learned a thing or two. Thanks so much.
Thanks Ed! I appreciate you watching 👍
@@RickRuizAudio I appreciate a through review.
Can one set the crossover point to high pass -> optical out while low pass -> line out? This would be great to use with a subwoofer!
No, neither of these can do that. But yes, that would be a great feature!
The S10+ is capable of DECODING 24/192, but it will truncate analog output to 16/44.1. The toslink output is not 24/192. It is also 16/44.1 as far as I know and from looking on Arylic website. Just a heads up...
Ahh, let me send them an email to confirm! Thanks for the heads up!!!
I agree it's 44.1khz on both analog and toslink output.
When I hooked up the S10+ optical out to my DAC, I found out that it does not output 192kHz. This fact is either missed, or buried, in many reviews.
Can you connect a tv thru the digital port in one S10+ unit, and play the tv sound in other rooms with other units? like multi-room that you can choose what gonna play in each room
Hey Leo. Good question. I haven't tried that. But I'll try it in a few days and let you know. 👍
@@RickRuizAudio thank you a lot !
Sir,
1. I have a Yamaha AV receiver (HTR 3066) that supports an optical input but does not have Bluetooth.
2. My TV is an older LED model (non-smart) without an optical audio output but does have a 3.5mm audio output, which I currently use for connecting external sound systems.
3. I want to use my AV receiver with a digital audio option for better sound quality. Since my AVR has an optical input and the Arylic device has an optical output, I can connect them to enable Bluetooth functionality. However, the Arylic also has a 3.5mm audio input option. If I connect my TV to the Arylic using the 3.5mm cable, will the sound from the TV then play through the AVR via the Arylic?
Yes if you connect analog line out from TV to line in of Arylic, you can play on AVR. But then the Arylic is converting the Analog tv signal to digital and then sending to AVR via digital which the AVR then converts back to analog. You should have better quality connecting TV to AVR with 3.5mm to RCA cable and keeping signal analog all the way through. But yes you can.
@@RickRuizAudio Sir, as per my thoughts his TV don't have any analogue out put on his TV which says so can you say further?😢 His TV have digital output 3.5m.
First sorry for my bad English.
Connect the AVR to the TV using an optical cable through the output option, and if the line-in is connected to my TV, the sound from the TV will play through my sound system.
This question is for acrylic.
Thanks 😊
Of you want to use Arylic for streaming music to your AVR, the. Optician output from Arylic to an optical input on AVR. Or if you don't have an extra optical input on AVR Bec you have TV using the only optical, you will need to use analog line out on Arylic to RCA input on AVR.
I think the far superior user interface/app makes the mini the clear winner. I run the mini streaming direct via Tidal, Spotify or Amazon music to an SU-1 DAC via optical and the sound quality is startlingly good, even with a basic power supply. Still looking for a good quality inexpensive power supply to take this pairing another step higher.
Hey Jems, glad it's working for you. What part of the WiiM interface do you feel is far superior? The EQ section or Tidal Connect?
I'm going to build a Streamer with DDC and I'm still on the fence about what platform I want to base it on. For me, since I don't use the EQ, the Arylic is the same as the WiiM. But I do like the Tidal Connect option. But Arylic has an option with that as well, although for more money ($150). Then there's my preferred streamer, the Cambridge but now we're starting at $500 and with the DDC components it's going to put me over $1200 and I would love to keep it under $1000. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas 🎄 👍
@ good questions and you can’t really go wrong with either. For me the WiiM interface navigation has been simple and intuitive. I use the mini and SU-1 to feed digital music into a vintage system that is geared towards vinyl (a late 70s Kenwood receiver and large Advents). So for me direct streaming lossless tunes with the ability to use the eq to adjust for the vintage system makes for a great (and really inexpensive!) package. Listening to it now, and wondering if I want to try adding in the new SMSL CD player…..could be a very different calculus for you if you don’t need the eq.
WiiM is an excellent choice for streaming, especially since it requires no subscription. However, a worthy alternative to consider-particularly for those looking to customize their setup-is the DIY approach. Using a Raspberry Pi with a dedicated streaming distribution offers flexibility and performance that rivals budget streamers, allowing you to tailor the experience to your exact needs.
Yeah, DIY is definitely fun. Or at least it is for me, but i understand some people can get intimidated.
I'm working on upgrading a streamer with a reclocker and linear power supply so hopefully I'll have that video up soon. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
I have two questions (I am layman, sorry). I use youtube music streaming, and i think they dont have this different technology connection you are talking about (spotify, tidal and airplay). So, in this case, will I still have some benefits of play music via wifi than normal bluetooth? If so, which ones?
I have no DAC, and want to buy a simple one that is at least a little better than the one on my smartphone, and I like the idea of playing music without needing to stop to liscening an audio message hahaha but my fear is that this ability will be too expensive, by comparing with using a true decent DAC with normal bluetooth for about the same price (like the smsl su1). So what you think?
Sorry by my english 😬 and great video!
Unfortunately, the Arylic does not integrate UA-cam Music. You can send via Bluetooth but then I would suggest a DAC like you state in second question. Get SMSL PS200!
That one has Bluetooth also.
amzn.to/3ZGfrmH
@@RickRuizAudio Thank you very mutch! 🥺
@@RickRuizAudio What do you think about its predecessor model, the ps100? Its also worth the money?
The "200" model will cost too mutch here in Brazil (half of a minimun wage!)
@@Lpiont the PS100 is slightly better than the sound from your TV's analog output. The PS200 is a larger improvement.
@@RickRuizAudio would you recommend the FiiO BR13 as a middle ground? its price is in between they two
Please take a look at the Fiio K11 R2R DAC. High End for affordable Price with this Streamers!
Hi Johannes, yeah, I'm curious about that one. I didn't like the original K11 with the single CS chip. I found it lacking detail. But I'm very interested in the K11 R2R. I'll try to get one soon 👍 and thanks for watching
I have this Smsl Su-1 + Arylic S10+ combo with Fx Audio T03 tube preamp(modified) which sounds great. But the S10+ drops out intermittently while on wifi and USB pen drive. It gets worse with BT connection. Good thing I don't use BT. The Upstream crashes frequently. If it works, it's too slow. I bought it for $34.20 on sale + discount vouchers.
That's odd. Maybe you're getting interface with something else or you got a bad unit. I don't use the S10+ on wifi, just wired, but I have a Up2Stream 2.1 amp in my back patio over wifi that has never dropped out. But I'm on a mesh network with good coverage. Maybe that's it. Have you tried a WiiM?
excelente trabajo, muy honesto y claro
Muchas gracias, Mónica 🙏
Full Parametric EQ is key advantage of wiim mini. Basic EQ starting from 125hz is unfortunately useless in comparison, thus can not be alternative for wiim. Also, wiim mini is working as multiroom with phenomenal wiim ultra which do not have any competition on the market.
I suppose maybe for some it is a nice thing to have. In my system, with the mini, when I turn the PEQ on before even making adjustments, the soundstage flattens, so I keep it off, and I don't use the Mini in my main listing system. I use it for other zones. The Pro doesn't do this. It seems to handle the EQ better. As for the multiroom, the S10+ is multiroom as well and can work in combination with other Linkplay products.
I think it's about what you wanted to accomplish with your system. If you have speakers that don't need adjustment under 125hz, say you have a simple 2 way that rolls of nicely at 50hz, the point in moot. Of course if you do need it to integrate a sub or need to add bass, when you know which to get.
Thanks for the input. I appreciate the perspective 🙏
@@RickRuizAudio Parametric EQ is not only needed for correction below 125hz. Possibility to pick exactly choosen frequency within whole spectrum with required Q factor results in efects on simply different level in comparison with classic fixed EQ. On wiim mini whole room adaptation can be performed. There is no auto option as in pro and ultra, but auto option is in fact not needed. Parametric EQ can be used manually with measurements tool. In case of equipment or room which needs corrections, potential slightly loss in sound stage doesn't matter - frequency corrections are much more important for effect. One from main benefit of usung wiims product is simply powerfull dsp. It's mainly useful for bass management (in 20-200khz range, speakers can roll of at 50hz, but still may require correction for example on 72hz or at any other spectrum points), but in whole spectrum also. Q factor and exactly, precise frequencies are keys. Fixed values are not enough.
If s10 can work in multiroom setup with wiim ultra, then this point is not valid from my side :)
Mini - analog 16/44.1
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