2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R Quick Review // What We Really Think
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2022
- The 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R ($146,005 starting in Canada, $109,145 starting in the US) is one big bad baja brawler. Powered by a 700-horsepower 5.2 L supercharged V8 motor, this mighty American truck aims to tackle offroad racing in style. But power comes at a price, as the Raptor R is a pretty big price jump up from the F-150 Raptor and its screaming V6. It’s also a fair bit more expensive than the Ram TRX, which also has a supercharged V8 and big beefy suspension. Thomas and James take the new F-150 Raptor R out for a quick review and share their thoughts on how it is to drive, and how it compares to the V6 Raptor and the TRX. We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
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When your tow vehicle is faster than the race car on the trailer ...
Nah. Still slow af
…with the trailer attached and the racecar on said trailer.
@@brandodurham For a vehicle that weighs 6200 pounds, this thing is insanely fast for an ICE vehicle that you can purchase from a dealership.
Probably limited to like 102mph tops.
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fuel costs are probably a reason why neither throttle house member would buy and own one. this truck sounds like every young kid’s dream. the same way the new M3 creates new euro heads, the new Type R inspires young JDM enjoyers, this new Raptor R will motivate truckers. respect 👍
I guess because they get to review these kinds of cars, they don't need to own them because they get to drive them regularly
You dont know much about rural usa then. Most of us still drive trucks that get 12mpg. Many parts of the usa count on older pickup trucks. Used truck prices are through the roof because new vehicles are too expensive, or not capable and maintainable enough for the job. A lot of companies are keeping their older fleet trucks arournd longer for just this reason. Same for farm and construction equipment. Only the big companies are able to afford all the new equipment
It's impressive how many people mention fuel costs but never pollution... this car is an ecological nonsense, that people will justify owning because "it's nothing compared to a supertanker or industrial pollution", while the simple truth is that they don't give a fuck.
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@@FordMustangGTRocks that’s not a flex to get 12 mpg😂
Ever since I seen this truck come out I been trying look at every review. I think this is a bad ass truck since they finally put the v8 in it
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Bet it’s still full of that nasty ford plastic… haha.
It is. They're right though. Ford dialed this puppy in more for Baja type driving and terrain. That's its strength against TRX.
Have any or the reviews said anything about the brakes? Seems like they kept the same brakes which is really disappointing considering the power/price upgrades.
I like the V6 actually more
Agree with you guys. RaptoR is an awesome truck BUT for my $$, I’ll take the V6 Raptor. Not gonna say I’d never be jealous if a RaptoR pulled up next to me. But…that’s a LOT of $$ just to have bragging rights at the stop light.
I was in a V6 Raptor up in Flagstaff Arizona on a two lane road and the driver jumped on it and went to 96 mph and was hugging that long sweeping off camber mountain turn very nicely. Two guys in the back went sheet white in the face. That was a bit much for me but that Raptor was handling nicely with 4 grown men in it.
The V6 is awesome.
It's more efficient, has a nice sound as well (I'm a big fan of 6 Cylinders like the M3, 911, Ford GT so on) and a twin turbo V6 is a pretty unique engine for a performance truck ^^
@Driver 637 the engine in the raptor isn’t from the gt350. Its from the gt500 which is basically a stroked coyote with slightly better internals.
After chronic 'Cam Phaser' non-warranty $ repairs on our 2017... never again re: a ttV6. Our TRX has so far been far more reliable and zero issues from 'spirited' daily use (on/offroad). As long as you are deaf and don't have to listen to that horrible EcoBoost exhaust...otherwise it's a painful soundtrack.
Agree, Unless I can live in it, It's not worth it.
The sudden ending 👌🏾 like clockwork
James wasn’t listening to anything Thomas was saying. Just rippin the throttle the whole time. Awesome!! Haha.
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Considering all the power upgrades I'm extremely disappointed that they didn't upgrade the brakes.
That’s wack
all races are won by those that use the brakes the least
@@renaissanceman5847 I dont think I agree with that. Maybe the least amount of time or distance. But increasing the effectiveness of brakes is one of the best things you you can do to make your car faster around a track. Along with tires.
I agree 100%! You would think that at that price they would ….
Does the RaptoR need better brakes?
Because if it's limited by the tires already I Don't see why you would care about better brakes.
+ That might be difficult, considering that Ceramics wouldn't work in a offroader.
I love the idea of the R. I’m on my second Raptor and might have considered one if they could be bought at MSRP but that isn’t going to happen in this day and age unfortunately
Well, my Raptor was one of three stolen from Denver airport last week. May be forced into a new truck after all, but now I’m thinking something less flashy might be wise
@@johnmorrison8351 did insurance cover it all??
@@johnmorrison8351try Ravelco, it's good anti-theft hardware
You can’t really give the people what they want. When the V6 Raptor came out people complained it wasn’t a V8 and now Ford has put the predator engine from the GT500 into the Raptor R, people saying they rather save the money and buy the V6 Raptor and suddenly giving it some compliments.
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Nice review keep up the good work Thomas and James
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I was waiting for this truck for a long time when it came out I was like I need this and I need this now also it’s my dream truck
I'll definitely pick one up in a couple years. Love that ford bright the V8 back
I love the end Thomas. lol 😂 the added bonus
Great video - fun content - ridiculously absurd truck. Love it!
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This thing is AWESOME
You guys absolutely nail car reviews....the ending made me laugh more than I should admit
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It's unfortunate that of the people who could afford this, I have a hard time believing they would also give it a good thrashing offroad.
Same thing as all G wagons with front and rear diff lockers v8 tt etc..
People who can't afford one, always say this.
@@user-xn8wl2kd9p g wagon is not realy meant for offroad although its capable of it but this is meant to go baja (proof is the wheels and tires and bodykit of the g wagon)
i have a hard time trying to read your sentence.
@@osamaabuyaghi The G500 is very much capable of this.
There are two V8 G-Classes after all, the G500 and the G63
My 23' TRX is here in Jan. For sure I'd be racing these from a DIG all the time.
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I’ve actually seen this exact press truck out in BC, looks pretty menacing
Unless I missed it, you did not mention that the raptor can utilize 2 Wheel Dr. where the TRX can not. Love your videos especially your standard channel.
Good observation because it makes all the difference in the world to have the option.
Yeah kinda crazy that they left that out. Its probably the Largest Difference between the two.
Well tbh you can make your trx be in 2wd with a tazer programmer that shuts off the front and option it to 2wd
@@mopardude707 doesn't count, not oem
@@mopardude707 nice try tho Mopar boy
The added advantage I didn’t know they came with 😂
TRX baby!!!
I test drove the V6 raptor yesterday. It's very comfortable. I absolutely adore the suspension. But the interior is a bit disappointing for the money.
I live in Utah and I see Raptors everywhere
😂10:03 I’m done I can’t even Lol. Also thanks Thomas I saw it. Love you both great job but would you trade your current ram for this or raptor. And what are the future next truck plans for the channel Angel Thomas And angel James
I finally took delivery of my 2022 Raptor , after waiting for 15 months. Personally I will give the R a pass. I also had a 2012 first gen Raptor, loved that truck very much.
Congrats !!! But damn 15 months 🤦🏻♂️.
I too owned a 2013 1st Gen Raptor with the 6.2 V8 and loved every bit of that thing. Seeing another V8 Raptor come out is making me reminiscing and wanting to go get one lol
Did the dealer mark it up?
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The trx is about 700 pounds heavier, an inch wider, and has a slightly longer wheel base... yet for some reason, it drives smaller and tighter around town than Raptor R, according to Jonny Liberman during the Motortrend review... He says the R seems more big and school bus like on the road where the TRX feels more planted and nimble...
It’s MotorTrend. He’s likely saying that because Stellantis is paying him to.
@@The-fs5wn motortrend hass fallen in the past few years honestly, if I want accurate reviews I go to a youtube channel like this one where they are not biased in anyway towards one specific brand
Bigger tires is the reason....
Why would anyone say that about a truck that's specifically been tuned for rugged off-road racing, especially when it's marketed as the Baja truck.
That's the opposite of the impression I've gathered from random sources
Very cool truck
Wish we had them here in the UK 🇬🇧
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I love the abrupt cutoffs lol
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what was that beeping purple light in the centre console?
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I still think the Raptor (normal one) is the best and most versatile daily truck on the market.
The Raptor R takes the cake for me because you can still put it in 2whd can't you? I'm considering a used 3.5L Raptor because the prices have come way down it seems.
That last statement at the end. 😂
Yall say 1st, I'm here to watch.
The ending got me 🤣
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I guarantee there will be some dealers in canada with these for like $200k+, at that point it doesn't even compete with Ram TRX which at least has had more time to get more stock out there.
There is nothing like driving a powerful truck. Enough said 😊
No replacement for displacement. Not a Ford guy but would definitely have the v8 rumble over the bumble bee exhaust.
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The Raptor and Raptor R especially, destroys aTRX in an off-road Baja style setting which these trucks were created for. Lots of content online to show it as well.
Big deal. You show me one video of these two doing Baja racing and I'll show you a 1000 video of these things being raced on the street and in mud puddles. The TRX is better. Period
@@Welcometofacsistube lol ok. I would say it's a very big deal when that's what the trucks were designed to do. It's irrelevant that most people will never explore the limits of either truck. No different than those that buy an exotic hypercar. If you want to drag race, buy a model S.
@@Welcometofacsistube These trucks were designed to go off-road racing & towing not street racing. Everyone knows the Raptor R would eat the TRX alive off-road or towing something. If you want to street race get a car.
I like the previous gen front end and headlights better. It’s still awesome though.
Yes! I agree. That's why I wanted a 2010 because it looks so much more beefier and the huge headlights, I love it. And tons of space behind that grill for a winch, or battery cables.
@@RavancheII and LED Light Bars
Cant wait till they drop the bronco raptor R
Commented on the other Video, would be cool to see y’all find a Chevy Silverado Reaper.
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4:22 - did he say president or prime minister? Nah, Thomas is the KING of the road!
Do a video on the new 2024 Ranger Raptor
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It’s got the same week ass tie rods the Bronco does. They break just by looking at them wrong.
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that center console is wider than my dinner table!
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An "I'm king of the road" phone call would make a great intro in the future.
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The TRX graphic eating the raptor was accurate when it came out as there was no raptor R then. It definitely eats the non R.
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So much more options for that price
Such as
Do the Rainbow Raptor review next Please.
So wish they sold these in the UK
Only thing bugging me (may be a little OCD)..but everywhere they have the last R in raptor coloured in to symbolise the R version...on the tailgate, on the seats and the left rear arch
But the right arch it's the first letter that's coloured in🤨.
Which may match the location of the other side but that means from that side it's an R Raptor not a Raptor R.
doesn't the baja mode more agresive than sport mode?
Alrighty, guys. It's time for the Redeye TRX. 💀
James is cold af 😂😂😂😂😂
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Gussied-up Raptor with a V-8.
You'd defo be King of the road here in the UK....Ha !!
2:49 what's that flashy thingy
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I'm waiting for the 10-cyl version
man you made my day , 7 red bulls and white what ? 😬😋🤭
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Wish it had the tremec dct from the gt500
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For that price the suspension should adjust automatically for the different modes.
Less things the break on a ford 😆
Yeah I thought in Sport it would stiffen the shocks. What does it do then? Just make the steering heavy and change the throttle response?
As a regular peasant raptor owner, the shock settings do changed automatically in different drive modes or you can manually adjust them along with steering and exhaust. So in sport mode they get stiffer, but there is still some body roll since they only get so stiff.
I have a 2023 Raptor and a 2023 S580. The Raptor is the best riding truck ever….really nice, but not quite as nice as the S-Class ride. It shouldn’t be, but it’s close.
Trx for me
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I’d want one in orange
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@@bosssho3096white looks beautiful in person
Great video guys, but Remember the TRX rides on 35's which give better on road grip. The Raptor R is standard with 37's. It should be disadvantaged by lack of grip and wheel rotational speed, yet it just isn't . Hail the new King.
What? Bigger tires give more grip, but more rotational mass, that is why they hurt the truck not because of less grip.
Plenty of TRX owners hitting under 4 sec with 37s if you have torque which the TRX has it won't hurt the times that much
@@dor1tomcswagger69 This truck can hit under 4 sec 0-60 as well though.
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@@burgerbandit3646 yes I know that but I'm informing ppl that the TRX can do it with 37s as well
Trx ftw
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And there’s an Easter egg in both trucks of a truck eating my bank account.
" I'm king of the road....king of the road."-Thomas
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RWD 🔥👍🏿
Still the Baja King of the Road!
This is a Zombie Apocalypse grade F150.
I see fords rental is making its way through the youtubes
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Do a Moose test with it!
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TRX🇺🇸🤘
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I want one badly but just normal coyote motor. I want to put piss poor 87 octane in it hear the v8, the speed comes with inertia, let the suspension do its thing. I don't need be off line 2 seconds faster, its a baja truck not a drag race.
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Okay, but imagine a Bronco RaptorR.
Old v new raptor comparison in order
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Does it take premium fuel like the Ram TRX?
Of course it has a V8 which means it needs 92 - 93 octane fuel
The 5.0 is a V8 and doesn’t.. dip $hit!
@Texas Guy You clearly own a Honda civic to say it takes 87 and not 93 🤡😒 I have one and it clearly takes 93 premium, put 87 and floor it see what happens.......knock sensors hate life and pulls timing to not blow your engine!
Ram has the best interior
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I'm a bit surprised by this but it appears the Raptor R has a higher tow rating than the TRX (8700lbs vs 8100 for the TRX).
Not surprising at all. The Raptor R weighs around 500lbs less because of Ford's use of aluminum body panels. That's basically the entire gap in towing and payload.
@@PeakDecline if the raptor and the TRX were on the exact same chassis that would make sense. The 5.7L Ram 1500 can tow 12,750 and even the Durango manages 8700lbs so I was just surprised to see the full body TRX come up short.
Ford always tows more
@@S8ER the Ecoboost F150 can tow 14,000
@@S8ER It all comes down to the max tongue weight these softly suspended trucks can handle without too much weight transfer, which can otherwise cause a loss of steering stability. You need 10-15% trailer weight on the truck to keep it stable at high speeds so the max trailer weight is directly a result of max payload and the next limitation would probably be braking capabilty with the brakes already having to work so hard to slow down these much higher interia tires. Horsepower is not a problem.
You ended on the real reason why people buy this.
I quite literally laughed out loud when James said that. I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣
Are Canadian roads the same as American roads?
Basically, but lower speed limits.
Depends on where you live. In Quebec, specially in Montreal, it's baha off road trails everywhere, if you're able to drive between contruction sites. And good luck finding an open bridge during nights and week-end to get off the island.
What is that annoying flashing light on the dash and wing mirror?
I think it’s the infrared light for the camera that makes sure your watching the road in auto drive mode. I think it’s only visible threw a camera not to the human eye but why is it on when not needed?
@@DustinMarkwald thanks for that.
Meanwhile GM refuses to make a 1500 with more than 400hp unless it's a Cadillac escalade
That’s cause GM sucks
Interesting how the industry is moving. The V8 is now for the rich
You’re not alone, every guy in a Raptor is compensating…me included.
Or maybe just confident....us girls like em too😉❤️🔥
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thomas looking like grown up timmy turner
Extra Turtle Horse!
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It's big D energy
Personally I think the TRX looks better and more aggressive however
I wish the TRX had the blade-like clearance lights instead of dot-like LEDs.
in my opinion the raptor looks better
Fords monument to American excess. I see plenty of these driving on the highway in the north east.
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So every reviewer keeps saying that the Raptor R's engine is the Predator from the GT500, but according to Jason (and the Ford engineers he talked to) over at Engineering Explained, the only parts the R's motor shares with the GT500's are the valves, and that actually this supercharged 5.2 is an otherwise totally different powerplant. What's going on?
It's b/c Ford is a bunch of Pompous Donkeys...the same meat heads also claimed this truck had nothing to do with the TRX...Yeah Ok...
He was referring to the original 5.2 in the gt350.
Trx or Raptor R .
48% TRX
52 % Raptor R
Raptor R slightly ahead for better exterior looks
Price difference the TRX
Don't you dare ask for stiffer suspension :P Buy a street truck if that's what you want. This thing can jump over speed bumps, that is half the appeal ;)
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There are many companies who sell suspension kits to basically take your stock XLT up and turn it into something that will our perform the raptor. Of course you’d need you buy a supercharger too if you wanted the same power level but companies like SVC, RPG and camburg make kits that are much better. If you do the math you be saving so much money than buying a $150k truck off the lot
What about all the tuning and calibration/safety etc
@@TheTastefulThickness the same companies are able to teach you how to disable to safety features and turn them back on again when you’re not hardcore off-roading. However, because of the amount of wheel travel most people never really have to turn off anything more than the traction control. If you look it up on UA-cam these guys explain what they do and they also have videos of guys launching there trucks super hard. Block Kent has a 40ft jump in a SVC raptor I believe.
@@TheTastefulThickness these trucks are also known as pre runners. I’m currently building mine right now with a 5.0 lariat