"She’s Baldly Lying": Dana Frank Responds to Hillary Clinton’s Defense of Her Role in Honduras Coup
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- democracynow.org - As Hillary Clinton seeks to defend her role in the 2009 Honduras coup, we speak with Dana Frank, an expert on human rights and U.S. policy in Honduras. "This is breathtaking that she’d say these things. I think we’re all kind of reeling that she would both defend the coup and defend her own role in supporting its stabilization in the aftermath," Frank says. "I want to make sure that the listeners understand how chilling it is that a leading presidential candidate in the United States would say this was not a coup. … She’s baldly lying when she says we never called it a coup."
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You're a true hero Dana! Thank you for calling her for what is just a plain liar!
She came; She Saw - She lied
good one!
+trev moffatt YES & beautiful people died!
This channel is seriously under-rated. Incredible journalism. Hats off to you guys.
+TheVBounce 'Bernie Sanders called you unqualified, what do you think abou that?' Now that's even better journalism.
+Kent Kook unqualified is thier basic move over through Haitian president saying he we unqualified then obama now sanders.
What the hell is wrong with you? Of course she lied. Not only lied, but lied so pathetically, that she insults everyone's intelligence by basically thumbing her nose at you and saying "I'm above the law."
I feel so horrible that these kind of humans exist and have this kind of power. You are all so beautiful and my heart aches. I love you all tremendously.
An exceptionally beautiful comment.
I love this news channel
+valentin salja You could argue that their relative obscurity gives their journalism more integrity.
+valentin salja TYT should help them out and give their stories more attention and invite their hosts on to their show occasionally
Democracy Now never fails to amaze me! Thanks for doing such good work.
Thank you for providing legitimate journalism in an age of propaganda networks like CNN and FOX!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
+Jordan Keipinger Lmao! Legitimate news is one that tells you what you want to hear? LOL! Dumbass
+Andrew Scott It is one of the few news outlets that isn't corporate owned and operated, like every bullshit network on television. Dumb ass.
Respect Dana Frank, thank you.
I sure as hell AIN'T WITH HER.
I thought this said "She's badly lying," which would work as well :/
+lemurian chick Lol, I didn't even notice I read it wrong till I read you comment.
Thomas Sallustio LOL! I know, right? Fits like a glove...Unfortunately :(
+lemurian chick DITTO!!! Or, one could say she's "lying badly"..... which she does whenever she unleashes that lying, cackling beak (or bark) of hers. Is she so arrogant to know that the FBI (all 100+ agents and the Director himself), are watching her and listening to every damn thing she says yet doesn't care!!??
+Thomas Sallustio me too!!! haha
She's not my mama bitch. The cattle prod I was talking about only has "one" end to it, there's no double dipping.
Hillary is toast!
The only rhetoric that these two women , or any one for that matter , that they should be talking about when it comes to Hillary Clinton , should "ONLY" be about how big a psychopath she is.
some bullshit with HRC.
+conman413 Seems to always be some BS with her.
This video needs to go viral.
We had a military coup here in Thailand where can I find out if US aid has been suspended ???
+shiprek2011 In Chile we had a military coup after the country destabilize economically because US pushed to stop our aid while having a democraticaly elected socialist president. (with the more democratic one person one vote instead of that country circus)
The ignorant masses vote FOR their oppressors
LOL! Legal coup? I would think a coup is "illegal" by definition.
This is why I fucks with Democracy Now. Bringing all types of news that even other independent news sources haven't covered. Great, top tier journalism right here.
“The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.” ― Plato
And women.
Love Dana Frank! Took her Labor classes in the 1990s. She is clear, direct and her research is pristine! Honesty is Frank’s policy!!!
I will not vote for Hillary , I would rather vote for Trump. The skeletons in her closet are are busting down the closet door.
Thanks for asking her the question
and thanks for doing this important story.
stop letting her do events without being protested. we are everywhere let's protest everywhere.
I didn't realize Honduras had oil?
Larry Simpson And the idiot speaks up. Next time flush so we can't hear you, turd.
+David Wood oh your such a savage.
+David Wood there are two sovereign corporate owned cities proposed to be built in Honduras. These cities would make their own laws and run their own police and courts. Its proposed libertarian utopia= of which the last president was opposed to.
+David Wood it's not the resources, it's the cheap labor. they say in the video that all the other latin countries are bought and paid for (google brazil for example), but honduras wouldn't budge. so the coup happened
Christopher Harrison check out those two libertarian cities proposed in Honduras. They were opposed by the last democratically elected president- and a lawyer who was fighting the building of the cities was assassinated at a wedding in a church. 50 something jounalists have been killed since the last coup- 4 of the 6 generals were trained at the school of Americas in Georgia. US supported the coup- or at least is keeping up with the Right wing latin American policy. The funny thing is that this was called the domino theory- the fight to keep the USSR from our backyard. But now what is the excuse? We must be honest and admit it is a war being conducted by to prevent a philosophy- its a war of capitalism v socialism. Ironically capitalists always holler about the free market- yet they won't allow the free market of the people to choose their own philosophy. I find it interesting people call the Democrats Left- while the last Democrat congress voted again to spend our tax $ to overthrow the democracy of Venezuela. Certainly this is not Left- and certainly Obama and Clinton are following the Right wing foreign policy. Why are they so afraid to allow a socialist government in Latin America? They are so afraid it will work.
She is such a pathological liar, she's incapable of telling the truth.
Great report, thank you for this democracy now.
When it comes to Hillary, I quote the great Don Henley from The Garden of Allah, "The Devil is downhearted because there's nothing left for him to claim."
Prison for Hillary Clinton.
Dana Frank just bodied Hillary Clinton!! this channel and Dana are my hero's. and I'm not surprised by Hillary's lies
Love this show~ It's without a doubt one of the most informative and accurate channels I've viewed thus far ^-^
Amazing work! Hope you keep up the amazing reporting~
Makes me cry.
WOW!
Still learning what kind of person Hilary really is. I will never support her!!!!
When will Democratic voters wake up?
The mainstream media has seriously buried this Hillary issue. She's acted like Reagan in Latin America while she's acted like Bush in Libya.
I used to think Cheney was the worst human being on Earth. Hillary is more than a runner up, I think she is tied with Cheney.
What would be a legal Constitutional coup?
Hillary lied? Really? I'm shocked!
I wasn't so sure about being Bernie or bust...now I'll sign the Bernie or Bust petition. I can't vote for a person like this. She is a Republican in Democrat's clothing! Roe vs Wade will stand, we don't need her for that. I can't vote for Trump, but I will write in Bernie.
+Melissa H or Jill Stein
Smear piece on Dana Frank from Washinton Post forthcoming
+Tony Stockell Just what I was thinking
That women is Sick! I choose you, Democracy Now. This is real..
Never Forgive Never Hillary
AND people are still voting for Hillary---what is wrong with people of this country?
+foreverstudentpilot low information....high opinion
HRC's "Foreign Policy!" I'd rather give Bernie a chance to reverse the course of this brand of American Imperialism!
Thank you Amy, I do so admire your penchant for revealing the truth. In my opinion, the world certainly deserves better than Hillary. I hope we're smart enough to choose wisely. Our country literally depends upon it.
didn't this happen in Egypt as well?
it's Boldly.
Great video
BRAVO.
Holy shit. The US is still propping up dictators in south america? I thought that was a Reagan era thing, i need to crack a book more. Thanks for opening my eyes.
Sanders2016 or Snake
Thank you ...I've been saying this for awhile....and using our hard earned tax dollars!!!👍👍
"What difference, at this point, does it make"
So relevant today!
Wow, I'm blown away by this. Making more Bernie calls is all I can do to change things.
Somewhere Mr Zilaya is smiling
If Bernie does not run on either Dem ticket or as an independent, I suggest everyone write him in in November. Most states allow write in votes.
So what does Honduras have that our corporate overlords want to get there greedy hands on?
+Edmund Squid texas tea bro
Bug McKlusky
Yeah I looked it up they got more than just oil. They have timber, textiles, minerals in the ground, and of course a favorite of the corporate overlords. Cheap, cheap labor.
Dana Frank is wonderful ....Hillary is not. I feel badly for the people of Honduras. Berta Caceres is a tragic loss for the people of Honduras.
I will never, ever vote for that person! God bless Berta. Down with TPP!
Career criminals will pay for their evil deeds......... someday soon ........
Can't we just leave everyone else alone. How would OBAMANATION like a coup ?
+Jeri Zabel I think it's already a fait acomplie! If Hillary takes the helm it was a quiet insurrection. She will use executive order to deem no more elections!
expose the dirt out instead of sweeping it back under the rag....so that true cleaning will start.
cannot kill an idea
Like a Boss!
I think Ms. Frank needs a synonym for "beautiful".
Monsters in power here.
"Washington does not want to remain a stick wielding imperialist [in Latin America]. It is doubtful, however, that any American President would permit such a shift." - New York Times, Feb 7, 1988
Isn't it boldly?
Thank you for this extremely informative commentary on the Honduran situation (something that I personally had very little grasp of).
Nooo, lying?! That would a firs- ... oh wait *facepalm*
R.I.P. Berta Caceres.
We desperately need to oust the Clintons.
As much as I dislike Clinton, this story is poorly presented, and important contextual information is missing. And I've also seen it claimed that,
"Zeleya tried to circumvent congress and change the constitution to eliminate his term limits. He was essentially trying to become a dictator with the help of Chavez. This act, according to their constitution, immediately strips one of their citizenship. Congress voted, and the supreme court approved the removal of Zelaya. At congress' request, the Military leaders removed Zelaya. A temporary president was put in, until elections could take place. The current president was elected into office via election of the people."
And Juan Gonzales' interview with Clinton on the issue makes it look like Hillary pushed to NOT declare it a coup because it would withdraw US aid from the people of Honduras which would not be helpful to the situation.
I personally don't know enough about the situation to be able to assess the validity of any of these claims, and Dana Frank's rampage against Clinton seems to be a bit too emotionally charged, or maybe she's just nervous about being on TV-- but it makes it hard to make sense out of any of this, and look like a quick and dirty hit piece.
So if there's a story here, it may be a fascinating one, but I couldn't tell you what it is from any of this.
It was illegal, the president never had a day in court and Hillary tried to push for another election trying to push things under the rug.
+France Filiault I guess this gives it a little more context, but I'm still trying to sort it out with some help from here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_constitutional_crisis
So Zelaya didn't want to leave, which was deemed illegal by the supreme court, a coup by the military removed Zelaya, and then the coup itself was deemed illegal because of the way he was deported, something the military did apparently to avoid violence. Clinton stuck our nose in to try to sort it out, avoiding calling it a coup in order to preserve US aid, and a bunch of other stuff happened-- a shady election? An interim government? Human rights violations? A big mess it would seem. But it's not clear to me exactly what was wrong if anything, with what Clinton did. Simply not call it a coup in order to keep US aid from being withdrawn? If that's the extent of it, the rationale seems reasonable, even if it's skating US law somewhat, the reasoning seems not malicious or self-serving or even particularly incompetent. I mean, it appears it was a complex situation and laws that don't take into account extenuating circumstances may not have been serving us well there. And was Obama on board with it? And it seems like an election could be a way to sort such a mess out, so that in itself doesn't seem to be the issue-- or was it something about how the election was implemented? The problem was the election was rammed through too hurriedly in an attempt to stabilize things more quickly?
great work on reporting this. Why doesn't CNN or Fox reported this? Why does people vote with investigate Clinton?
+Arc Angel They are one in the same. These corporations support Hillary in money and air space.
not hard choices bad choices
How many Countries is the US currently involved in now.
Our gov. did the same thing with Egypt. They didn't call it a coup even that it was, we still give Egypt aid to this day.
Clinton supporters- what have you to say about this?
Like Clinton supporters ever do any research on her lol
Why was there a coop?
didn't call Egypt a coup either.
+mikerevs34 Well I believe wherever the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID turn-up then you can expect a coup. With Egypt, I read an article in Al Jazeera which shows US NGO's funding opposition protesters, opposition government officials, and I believe opposition media.
*Al Jazeera: "Exclusive: US bankrolled anti-Morsi activists" (July 10, 2013):*
Documents obtained by the Investigative Reporting Program at UC Berkeley show the US channeled funding through a State Department programme to promote democracy in the Middle East region. This programme vigorously supported activists and politicians who have fomented unrest in Egypt, after autocratic president Hosni Mubarak was ousted in a popular uprising in February 2011.
The State Department's programme, dubbed by US officials as a "democracy assistance" initiative, is part of a wider Obama administration effort to try to stop the retreat of pro-Washington secularists, and to win back influence in Arab Spring countries that saw the rise of Islamists, who largely oppose US interests in the Middle East.
Activists bankrolled by the programme include an exiled Egyptian police officer who plotted the violent overthrow of the Morsi government, an anti-Islamist politician who advocated closing mosques and dragging preachers out by force, as well as a coterie of opposition politicians who pushed for the ouster of the country's first democratically elected leader, government documents show.
Information obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, interviews, and public records reveal Washington's "democracy assistance" may have violated Egyptian law, which prohibits foreign political funding.
It may also have broken US government regulations that ban the use of taxpayers' money to fund foreign politicians, or finance subversive activities that target democratically elected governments.
'Bureau for Democracy'
Washington's democracy assistance programme for the Middle East is filtered through a pyramid of agencies within the State Department. Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars is channeled through the Bureau for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (DRL), The Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI), USAID, as well as the Washington-based, quasi-governmental organisation the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
In turn, those groups re-route money to other organisations such as the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute (NDI), and Freedom House, among others. Federal documents show these groups have sent funds to certain organisations in Egypt, mostly run by senior members of anti-Morsi political parties who double as NGO activists.
www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/07/2013710113522489801.html
And Hillary is an unstoppable presidential candidate. Why is Honduras of strategic importance at the expense of democracy?
when is she not lying?
"What you don't control is a threat."
Anglo American Bankster Oligarchy
THE ONLY LEGIT NEWS LEFT?
wgas? what good comes from our involvement in honduras anyway? getting tired of the extreme left-only point of view.
The U.S. government gives aid to countries all over the world and I can't help but think that the purpose is not really to help that country but rather to keep them under the U.S. government's thumb
+fuzzymath More "blame the US" bullsh*t. If we don't help, we're selfish jerks. If we do, we only want something. We've helped ppl all over the world to either escape or become liberated from fascism and communism. And this is what we get??
What happened to this Amy Goodman and ‘Democracy Now!’?
Obama's trips to Vietnam and Japan to Apologize for America!!!!SICKkkkkkk..
truly horrible to imagine this political murder.. don't think the US public know any of this, but they instinctively know she works for powerful interests
Sensacional periodistas
Drugs
Just amazing...people had better start paying attention or the United States of America is going to be just like...opps, too late.
#HillaryClinton #BiilClinton #ChelseaClinton I really hope people will pay attention. I have always been a Dem but no matter who you vote for, don't vote for this kind of evil.
Fix your title Democracy Now.
The title is correct...
she is a Parisite
What about bringing back an old American tradition, burning a witch at the stake? One humunguous bonfire?
Another basket of deplorables. Must we choose the lesser of two evils?
Henry Kissinger must be very proud of Hillary.
these women are FOOLS.