That was a gnarly crash. I have a Swampmaster and it's really weird with a 71 degree head angle. I am going to see if I can do a 2 degree angle set and get it at 73 to see if it rides better and more like an actually BMX trail bike.
I think that a bare bones BMX would have wiped the floor with these bikes. A small hard body shoots into the air in my experience. People were doing all these jumps on those bikes before there was the concept of an MTB.
Let's see a bare bones BMX do the jump Tomas Lemoine did at Whistler Joyride. BMX have done plenty of big jumps. I've seen videos. But no way one makes it through an entire Crankworx tour without breaking the frame or the rider.
@@dvs620 most high end BMX frames are built to at least the same quality, if not higher than any DJ I've seen for the last 25 years. There are guys taking huge drops to flat on a BMX that I don't see any MTB riders doing still. I think the biggest thing keeping a BMX from riding courses like that is not being able to get the needed speed for clearing the gaps, especially if things gets a bit torn up.
GMBN, with all due respect, pay the man (Blake)! He tried (in my view) to show example! Even respecting those more far-advanced; and even appealed to beginners like me (mtb since dec2023, CannondaleTrail7 to start (Trail5warrantyReplacement to now Specialized Fuse stock)! MTB dirtJumper ftw! SafetyFirst! I already know Blake is highly-Capable of all-around skillset!
I would really like to see Blake check out a WTP Chaos Machine, 20" or 22". I honestly think he'd be more comfortable on one of those at the jumps than the Swamp Master.
Awesome you put out more advanced and interesting content, you'd love to see more . I watched a Sam P video with Blake absolutely shredding whistler and loved it. Get niel ripping DH too
I’ve been following fingers crossed and the Swampmaster since their inception and finally seen someone hit some proper jump trails on it. Wish fingers crossed got their bike to market
@@DaveWasThereMan the issue there is that BMX has moved up to 2.1" being one off the smallest tire sizes readily available, and most riders running 2.3-2.5" tires these days. ISO 451 has pretty small tires by comparison. Most of the 22", and even 24" bikes look just fine. They don't handle as fast or spin as well though, which are generally favorable traits in the BMX world. They do handle flowing through jumps, transition (ramps), and pump tracksn just fine though.
Well done, bring it to a bmx track after a rain, or when the bmx track isn't dialed. As a track operator in the states riders nearly demand a dialed track for small wheels zero suspension. Sooo bmx would have a market with a rougher track that bikes can ride on. Kinda like 4 cross style
I and every bmxer I know have been able to hop on a mountain bike and very quickly get used to jumping one. The only scenario I can see the swampmaster being better suited to is if you want to ride loose dirt, steep downhill jump trails and do turndowns and lookbacks, which look hideous when attempted on mountain bikes. It would be interesting to try it with normal size bmx tires on it though. I think specing those huge tires on it is a mistake.
15 to 20 years ago i snapped a ligament in my hand wrist area. Today my bones have spread apart and requires surgery. When they are done with surgery, there will be 3 less bones and my hand will be a centimeter shorter. Moral of story, have your wrist looked at, while they can fix it, normally.
The steep angle of top tube on DJs looks painful close to one’s wedding tackle... Also my butt always touches the back tyre when compressing. Wouldn’t bother with the SM .. Their 22” chaos machine bmx would be a appropriate comparison 👈🏻
After riding mtbs for a few years now i wanted to get back on my bmx for a bit of something different but found it way to twitchy so i bought a jump bike. Way more stable and predictable than the bmx.
Not sure what this BMX is trying to be. I dont see the point in it being full suspension, it would make more sense to have an even slacker HA, stick with the 100mm travel fork, and put proper 10" x 30" bars on it which are common man sized bars these days and make an enormous difference in bike feel. The setup on this thing makes me think they are going more for the novelty of extra crap rather than tying it to a specific use. The rear Suspension and front brake not being through the stem makes me think they actually intended this to be a trail bike, which with 20 inch wheels wouldnt be any better than a regular BMX bike on the trails, 20 inch wheels just dont deal with real roots and large rocks at all no matter how much suspension you've got. As for making it just a more capable Dirt Jump BMX, the front fork might be somewhat useful on really big and rougher jumps, like if the dirt isnt very good and full of pebbles on the run ups. Realistically, if you look up S&M bikes you'd see theres a long legacy of BMX Dirt without suspension hitting huge jumps really really high, some of those older videos still dont even seem real, its crazy how big good Dirt BMXers go.
I have bmx and my my entire life that bike is not heavy my s&m war pig weighed 50 pounds the only problem I had with a mb was I'm so short it's hard to find a frame that fits
Which of these two would you like to try out at the Dirt Jumps? The regular DJ bike or the Full Sus BMX?
I've never heard of a full sus BMX, so I would definitely give that a go! Also, love the content ❤
None, I'm crap at jumps 😂. Great to see Blake doing tho. 👏👏
take the full sus bmx to Sedona, Arizona, or Moab, Utah to ride some of the blue trails there.
I'd stick with the DJ, but would still like to give the Swampmaster a go.
@mellissanash7517 a buddy of mine has ridden his at sedona bike park and pretty much everywhere else in az
Blake + Dirt Jumping = The DREAM. Would love to see some DJ Trick Tutorials with Blake
Yes more jumping please.
He has a few on here
That full sus bmx is sick!
After growing up watching Blake ride dirt jumps it hurt hearing him say he barely rides them anymore haha
22” might be the way to go. Park, pegs, dirt jumps - would love to see Blake on the new Chaos Machine!
Blake is mega
He could ride anything!
That was a gnarly crash. I have a Swampmaster and it's really weird with a 71 degree head angle. I am going to see if I can do a 2 degree angle set and get it at 73 to see if it rides better and more like an actually BMX trail bike.
Blake gets all the air miles. Awesome man. Hope you are okay, that looked rough.
He's all good! 👍
Didn't realize Blake is a right foot forward goofy footed rider.... those are very rare.
Almost everyone I ever have rode with is right foot forward...
I thought I recongised those jumps. The Hollow Trails in Yeovil, great spot.
Cheers fella. Came looking for this
Last rode there 20 years ago, changed a fair bit since then!
I think that a bare bones BMX would have wiped the floor with these bikes. A small hard body shoots into the air in my experience. People were doing all these jumps on those bikes before there was the concept of an MTB.
S&M Dirtbike, the original Dirt Jumper before 26 inch Dirt Jumpers were ever even a thing.
Let's see a bare bones BMX do the jump Tomas Lemoine did at Whistler Joyride.
BMX have done plenty of big jumps. I've seen videos. But no way one makes it through an entire Crankworx tour without breaking the frame or the rider.
@@dvs620 most high end BMX frames are built to at least the same quality, if not higher than any DJ I've seen for the last 25 years. There are guys taking huge drops to flat on a BMX that I don't see any MTB riders doing still. I think the biggest thing keeping a BMX from riding courses like that is not being able to get the needed speed for clearing the gaps, especially if things gets a bit torn up.
GMBN, with all due respect, pay the man (Blake)! He tried (in my view) to show example! Even respecting those more far-advanced; and even appealed to beginners like me (mtb since dec2023, CannondaleTrail7 to start (Trail5warrantyReplacement to now Specialized Fuse stock)! MTB dirtJumper ftw! SafetyFirst! I already know Blake is highly-Capable of all-around skillset!
I would really like to see Blake check out a WTP Chaos Machine, 20" or 22". I honestly think he'd be more comfortable on one of those at the jumps than the Swamp Master.
Awesome you put out more advanced and interesting content, you'd love to see more . I watched a Sam P video with Blake absolutely shredding whistler and loved it. Get niel ripping DH too
More Swamp Master! Love dirt jumping and love BMX
More Dirt jumps content please, that is 🔥🔥
Great stuff Blake , entertaining and inspiring. Making it look too easy !!!
good to see max at the hollow as always!
These bikes are a blast on jumps. A buddy has one.
With that suspension design the shock is going to wear extremely fast and there will be quite a lot of flex
The Swampmaster is named after the annual Florida Swampfest BMX festival. It's half meant as a joke but still well speced.
I’ve been following fingers crossed and the Swampmaster since their inception and finally seen someone hit some proper jump trails on it. Wish fingers crossed got their bike to market
Bmx should abandon 406mm and adopt the 451mm standard. The slightly bigger size is perfect for adult bikes, 22" bmx look goofy, however.
@@DaveWasThereMan the issue there is that BMX has moved up to 2.1" being one off the smallest tire sizes readily available, and most riders running 2.3-2.5" tires these days. ISO 451 has pretty small tires by comparison.
Most of the 22", and even 24" bikes look just fine. They don't handle as fast or spin as well though, which are generally favorable traits in the BMX world. They do handle flowing through jumps, transition (ramps), and pump tracksn just fine though.
imagine being on session and blake just shows up ready to shred that little ripper.
That’s my local
@@EvanDown fr me to
i see me in the back😂😂
congrats on 2 mil
Well done, bring it to a bmx track after a rain, or when the bmx track isn't dialed. As a track operator in the states riders nearly demand a dialed track for small wheels zero suspension. Sooo bmx would have a market with a rougher track that bikes can ride on. Kinda like 4 cross style
Rough trails please!
Megavalanche on full-sus BMX next!
cool vid, looks like you need to change the chainring/sprocket to get higher speeds.
Hope this heals quickly Mate!
I and every bmxer I know have been able to hop on a mountain bike and very quickly get used to jumping one. The only scenario I can see the swampmaster being better suited to is if you want to ride loose dirt, steep downhill jump trails and do turndowns and lookbacks, which look hideous when attempted on mountain bikes. It would be interesting to try it with normal size bmx tires on it though. I think specing those huge tires on it is a mistake.
Want to see all of it.
Finally 2 milly🎉🎉
nice video
Thank you!
Cool spot that, I ride my 180mm travel ebike there 😂
I hope that thing shows up at the Swatch Nines.
The swapmaster is perfect for BMX down hill it's in America
Should have put some different tires on the Bmx for this situation
15 to 20 years ago i snapped a ligament in my hand wrist area. Today my bones have spread apart and requires surgery. When they are done with surgery, there will be 3 less bones and my hand will be a centimeter shorter. Moral of story, have your wrist looked at, while they can fix it, normally.
Bring that small beast to Whistler DH track
Didnt know a Full Suspension BMX bike was even a thing lol ... id rather have a regular bmx bike & a full Suspension MTB bike personally.
When I was young I really wanted an Arrow Racing DS3. Full sus 24inch wheeled bike. Never managed to get one.
Now's the time to fulfil that dream!
The steep angle of top tube on DJs looks painful close to one’s wedding tackle... Also my butt always touches the back tyre when compressing.
Wouldn’t bother with the SM ..
Their 22” chaos machine bmx would be a appropriate comparison 👈🏻
I started riding MTB cause of blake .how hard can you push a hard tail Whistler edition
Where’s those trails anyone no what they are called ?
The Hollow Trails in Yeovil
@@Yennxfer thought it was, thanks. Not to far from mine I need to check them out.
@@jamesevans8520 theyre great, got a line for every skill level
Whats the bennefit if the fork is turnt???
Blake, you can probably also flip a sofa. Frustrating 😂
Don't be giving him any ideas 😂
Where is this place?
I think the fork is backwards on the bmx
After riding mtbs for a few years now i wanted to get back on my bmx for a bit of something different but found it way to twitchy so i bought a jump bike. Way more stable and predictable than the bmx.
Not sure what this BMX is trying to be. I dont see the point in it being full suspension, it would make more sense to have an even slacker HA, stick with the 100mm travel fork, and put proper 10" x 30" bars on it which are common man sized bars these days and make an enormous difference in bike feel. The setup on this thing makes me think they are going more for the novelty of extra crap rather than tying it to a specific use. The rear Suspension and front brake not being through the stem makes me think they actually intended this to be a trail bike, which with 20 inch wheels wouldnt be any better than a regular BMX bike on the trails, 20 inch wheels just dont deal with real roots and large rocks at all no matter how much suspension you've got. As for making it just a more capable Dirt Jump BMX, the front fork might be somewhat useful on really big and rougher jumps, like if the dirt isnt very good and full of pebbles on the run ups. Realistically, if you look up S&M bikes you'd see theres a long legacy of BMX Dirt without suspension hitting huge jumps really really high, some of those older videos still dont even seem real, its crazy how big good Dirt BMXers go.
I have bmx and my my entire life that bike is not heavy my s&m war pig weighed 50 pounds the only problem I had with a mb was I'm so short it's hard to find a frame that fits
you can buy 2 dj's for the price of the wethepeople...lol
Chromoly isnt stell
It's a type of steel
Who else then Blake to try this 😂
Hillard Passage
Take the bike to a skate park to show how shite it is
Don't ride the bmx, protect yourself
Swapmaster is hideous