Cheers Tony! Superb video mate...You've managed to cover everything and have answered all the questions I needed answering in a totally unbiased and very in depth way. I think all gun videos should follow this benchmark overview of performance through to the proper manufacturers settings. I'm definitely having one of these now. Thanks again!!
That’s really great to hear I know you were keen on seeing this review mate and I hope it’s helped you out buddy and we covered what you needed to know , thanks for watching buddy
I just got the LS400 a few months back and it is an by absolutely amazing gun. I love iwata. I also just ordered the ws400. I’ve shot with it before but don’t have my own. Can’t wait to get my hands on it. The feel of those guns in your hand is just great.
Great vids Tony! Been no end of a help to me so thanks for your efforts on this! Just got a question to put out to all... I'm planning go for picking up an Iwata WS400 Base 1.4 (not HD or OBS as I'm aware) used for £160, am I doing the right thing? Is it on par with the LS400? Appreciate your advice to a newbie! :-D
Hello yony. What would be the price of the two gun ( base and clear)? I thought about buying the lph 400 and the supernova , this way it may be cheaper don't you think? Thanks for share your videos and experience
you can get a pair for £639 from pmpsupplies.co.uk , as jash said you could possibly gor the the bellairia ive used on for years amazing gun but you will only save a few quid over the supernova tbh and its worth the extra all day long
Sure a nice video. . Give tums up.. I just purchased ls 400 n ws 400 so ur sayen full trigger so just curious is that also for drop coat ur are you moving quicker n further back.. please reply thanks
thanks mate and no ive been running it on full for almost every job ive been doing with it works a treat just drop a tad further back for your drop coat so it mists on rather than wet it means on a big job like this that your drop coats nice and fast too
Older video mate I know, just wanted to say something nice. I'm in the US and been painting for 8 years now, and at times I feel crestfallen with the trade. I've recently been watching youtube videos of other sprayers (something I probably should have been doing a while ago) and it has helped me reaffirm myself that I love what I do. Thanks for the vids.
Hey buddy thankyou fella , and can I just say thanks for taking the time to say that mate , we all loose our passion in this industry at times even me and that’s what inspired me to start this channel when I got my passion back and yano of one out of all the many videos helps someone like yourself to get your passion back for this job I love then that’s what matters stay safe buddy , Tony
Nice vid tony! I’ve had my entech for about 3 years now spraying standoblue and I do love it. You make a really good point about the flash off times being minimal! I am curious what you use for a wet on wet gun. I’m currently using sata 2000 but am ready to upgrade. Please make a vid on wet on wet
Hi , I rarely use wet on wet tbh usually if I do it’s just where the lads have rubbed through on prep and then I use my sata 3000b mini gun as it lays it down really fine , larger bits say when I do candy ect then il use my bellairia tbh it lays it really smooth and nice
Mase AK hi,I also use standoblue ,thinking of getting ls 400 entech,could I ask your set up,just to get me started,would be very grateful.fan,fluid,psi,many thanks in advance
Tim reeks , I use full fan and full trigger at 26 psi and do an 80% coverage coat about 6” away then do my drop coat same pressure about 10-12” away at a reduced speed 🤘🏻
Hey Tony I’ve been watching all your videos and you have taught me a lot so thank you :) I use to use my pro lite 1.3 te20 2 and half turn fluid out full fan 2 bars on a Ford moon dust silver find it hard to make the metallic lay down evenly. But after one of your video for clear coat guns pro lite 1.3 t110 set up so I’ve decided to try it out for my water borne base coat and bammm! You have made my life a lot easier :) thank you from Essex !!
Well bar basecoat lol I use the ls400 for base at my shop now buddy , I’d love to use the hvlp 5500 x 1.3 I for base but I just don’t have the cash for one atm , I’ve had one on loan though for a few weeks and it’s an awesome base gun
@@TonysRefinishingTV great! I do plan on spraying those too. Appreciate the quick response. It has a split tip or something that further helps atomization right?
@@Harlo86 yes mate it has the split tipped fluid tip which is designed to atomise the paint far better than other guns out there its great at low pressure for drop coats ect
Great video, looks like you take a lot of pride in your work. I'm after a respray for my car but all the places I go to don't fill me with confidence. After a really high end finish but seem to get fobed off with things like, 'there's no need to remove the lights' 'the paint we use you don't need a clear coat' (even though I want one) and so on. Any advice you could pass on, (I'm from South Wales UK.) On where and how I could source out a high quality paint job.
thanks yes i do take great pride in my work, you could always bring it up to my shop in cheshire and we could do it for you depending on what your after im sure we could accommodate what you want , if this is of interest then inbox me through our facebook page
your more than welcome to pop over anytime just let me know before hand so i can make sure im there any more info just get in touch through the facebook page
Hi,Tony.Did you tried ws 400 for solvent basecoat.I bought ws with hd air cup .I use it for base,and i would love to now differance on ls -ws for solvent? Is it better to work with ls ?
really nice gun ash , not only to paint with but in your hand too , really is a pleasure to spray with even on big jobs like this merc , most guns are ok for smaller jobs but good guns shine on larger areas and hard colours and this definitely does
i rarely use full fluid tbh mate usually id say im in the mid range for fluid its hard to give setting for base tbh as most people set base guns to feel
i havent mate but ive always been a huge fan of the bellairia as you probably know if you've watched our vids , iwata do make some cracking guns for there price point
Possibly stupid noob question if you don't mind me asking. On the areas you painted it looks like there were some areas of body filler applied and possibly(?) primed light gray. I've always been under the impression that when painting something, priming the entire area the same uniform color was needed to achieve a good uniform appearance with the topcoat. My knowledge is based on DIY painting of household things though. Is there a reason why this car didn't get a uniform primer coat first, or is doing this really not necessary when painting cars?
As long as you make sure you have coverage you don’t need to prime entire sections. It also saves money, time and materials. If you give the primed areas a coat first it saves giving the entire panel(s) that first coat as well 👍
Thanks for the video mate. Looks like my basecoat gun is going to be the new Sata 5500 X HVLP i just ordered but I really was looking at this gun for base.
Lovely video! Do you think you can make a video on setting the LS and WS 400 up? I know you described it but it would be nice to see it as well thanks!
@@TonysRefinishingTV Thanks that would be great, having the WS and LS 400 in the same video on setting them up will bring crazy new viewers, because many videos show how to on one and not the other never get around to the other gun. also there new guys like me who picked up the pair and would like to see a set from a professional like your self :) . Looking forward the video if you make it. also thanks for replying to my comment means a lot not many youtube check or reply to comments.
@@TonysRefinishingTV maybe going over this too in the video will help out a lots of people like explain the fan patters, fluid amount, air etc. of the ws and ls 400. anestiwata.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2015-spray-gun-catolog.pdf update: maybe also talking about the tips because I've seen other tips like the LPH400 LVX LVB VS the ones that straight on the gun. If you can help explain if there any good or know the pros and cons of them. Also would you recommend spraying primer with the supers novas?
il definitely get it done mate i may even be able to shoot the video this week for you and make this nexts weeks video and its not easy to get back to everyone but i always try my best to get back to all questions on here , instagram and facebook at the end of the day you guys are what makes the channel as without you watching there is no channel
Hi. Did you use the same set up for base as you did for the high solids and clear at the beginning. I have a pair of iwata and can not seem to get them set up correctly
@@TonysRefinishingTV I just seem not to be able to get enough paint out and seems to put it on really thin. Also the fan feels like there's more on top and bottom and not allt in the middle
Do you have problems on the iwata guns that it dries in the tip if you wait for dust coat...it like when you start working the dustcoat (waterbased) it spits out in the middle of spraying?..
Kenneth, i have these problems with ls400...i have 2 of these with 1.4 ets fluid tip...i use ppg envirobasr and debeer 900+ waterborne , and yes, the paint or paint "dust" accumulates between those slits if left too long btw coats, especially in summer.....and you go to spray and booom, it spits out hardened granulated basecoat....then stop everything and go sand sand..
Thx pere for answering this...i thought i was the only one that had this problem...going insane about this problem but as long as we now about it its good to stay ahead of the problem:)
@@kennethandersen6920 we all here to share and learn...i use this gun for my whites and white pearl 3 stage, ..so i always always look into that fluid tulip tip and observe if any debris , paint particles are present....if i see any, i take a littke brush witb waterborne cleaner, wipe it off, do a test spray and then onto panel....
got ya so personally i leave the air valve on the gun all the way open mate then use a regulator under the gun to control the pressure as it has a gauge on it
I have one mini gun and 7 gti pro's and they are al i use for base and clear they work just fine for me so i don't realy feel the need to buy a new gun but when i can get one for a good deal i will pick it up 😉
7 gti pros wow lol , im not against devilbiss just think theres better out there for the money buddy, know alot that love them and wouldnt give them up personally just not my sort of gun
@@TonysRefinishingTV what they cost is not realy my concern the boss has to supply me with my tools like guns and sanders i find it a weird concept that people have to buy their own guns or sanders i am here to do my job and if you don't supply me with tools i can not do my job its just that simple if i was a freelancer then it would be a diffrent story
I know I’m commenting late since you put this out a year ago but thank you so much for explaining the difference between WS and LS so well it’s helped greatly . I’ve watched other reviews and demos and not one has come close to telling the difference . Thank you very much this channel is the best !
hey thanks for watching i plan to go into these guns in abit more detail soon in a dedicated video and itll be a special one, and i greatly appreciate the comment we always try to do our best to get everything over in our videos as much as we can to help viewers of all types, great to have you with us
Tonys_Refinishing I can not wait for the in depth video . I think this has become my most wanted gun . I’m going to start saving for one now... right after I save up for that compressor I want . No point having a gun like that with just a small handy mans compressor and btw I greatly appreciate you taking the time to reply
nice to hear of more people hes reached out to , the issues always been with these guns that the sellers give no guidance on setup, or most anyway so people dont know where to start and then end up giving them a bad name when infact this guns by far one of the best you can buy
Ahem! PMP and Gav work hand in hand and ALWAYS advise buyers on setup so UK customers should feel confident in the support they will receive from us @@TonysRefinishingTV
Lol I did say most don’t lol , I have to say though you guys are an exception you give every bit of advice you can and go the extra mile to help customers too , which is exactly why your the best firm for us to work with on our channel
I love my gti pro and my pro lite for both base and clear but have to say I have the ws 400 and the ls400 both lay down much flatter and I think use less material. Sometimes a little too good, the pro lite with te20 seems to nail the factory orange peel.
it also comes down to personal preference mate , the iwatas do lay down lovely compared rp the prolite in my eyes thats not saying its a bad gun but set up right these are phenomenal guns
Need a big compressor to run these ls400's I've got a 3hp 200ltr 11cfm snap on compressor and it wont give me 1.5 bar Haha had to upgrade to a screw compressor just to run 1 gun 🤦♂️
See I’ve got a 150lt 5.5hp standard compressor runs it no issues at 2.0 bar you need 14cfm min to run a gun and keep the tank topped up , it’s no worse for air than any other gun
Anybody tried glasurit 923-625 HS CLEAR with the iwatas evo 1.3Hd? I use this now and struggeling to get it to stretch proparly because its massiv thick (viscosity 20s) so if any have some setting recomandation etc id love to hear about it. I use the lotus and caterham editions of the evo ws on both base and clear...just love it for base and on clear (roofs and bonnets like glass but still some struggles along sides of car to get that nice finish i want).. Hope to hear from someone thats using glasurit or used it:)
@@techn9ne206thx for sharing:) How much do you overreduce it?...i now put in normal amount (33% thinner) and take in extra 20% of the 33% in it..seems to work a little better... thats about 40% total reducing:)...
@@techn9ne206 another thing with the overreducing is that it seems to pull back on the glossiness after finishing the drying so i've tried out the 630 clear a bit with 532-15 racing additive in it instead of 30 thinner..seem to hold the gloss and dry in same time as the 625 so thats a pluss:)
Try heating the clear up before you spray it. You can sit the clear and hardener tins in hot water for about 20 min before you clear. I find this really helps the clear to flow and it goes on really nice. In a pinch, you can even microwave the activated clear for 20-25 seconds, but don't overdo it!
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Cheers Tony! Superb video mate...You've managed to cover everything and have answered all the questions I needed answering in a totally unbiased and very in depth way. I think all gun videos should follow this benchmark overview of performance through to the proper manufacturers settings. I'm definitely having one of these now. Thanks again!!
That’s really great to hear I know you were keen on seeing this review mate and I hope it’s helped you out buddy and we covered what you needed to know , thanks for watching buddy
C'est quoi les reglage
Is this the 1.3 ET or ETS? I'm planning on getting one. I spray PPG ENVIROBASE. Just don't know which tip is more suitable.
I just got the LS400 a few months back and it is an by absolutely amazing gun. I love iwata. I also just ordered the ws400. I’ve shot with it before but don’t have my own. Can’t wait to get my hands on it. The feel of those guns in your hand is just great.
Hello Tony. Great Video as usual ? 1.3 ET vs ETS ? Any noticable difference ? which one have you used on this job ? Thanks
Thank you very much nice to meet you I'm really happy to hear what you had to say about this gun thank you, Because I do struggle with mottling, ty
No problem at all mate
Hi, LS 400 entech et 1.2, is good for clear?
Great vids Tony! Been no end of a help to me so thanks for your efforts on this! Just got a question to put out to all... I'm planning go for picking up an Iwata WS400 Base 1.4 (not HD or OBS as I'm aware) used for £160, am I doing the right thing? Is it on par with the LS400? Appreciate your advice to a newbie! :-D
genuinely i couldn't say for sure but im guessing it wont be far off the same sort of standard of gun if im honest
What about thé overlap impact with ls 400 entech which is regular and not larger in thé midle
Do you confirm 75 to 90 percent overlap ?
Hello yony.
What would be the price of the two gun ( base and clear)? I thought about buying the lph 400 and the supernova , this way it may be cheaper don't you think?
Thanks for share your videos and experience
you can get a pair for £639 from pmpsupplies.co.uk , as jash said you could possibly gor the the bellairia ive used on for years amazing gun but you will only save a few quid over the supernova tbh and its worth the extra all day long
Sure a nice video. . Give tums up.. I just purchased ls 400 n ws 400 so ur sayen full trigger so just curious is that also for drop coat ur are you moving quicker n further back.. please reply thanks
thanks mate and no ive been running it on full for almost every job ive been doing with it works a treat just drop a tad further back for your drop coat so it mists on rather than wet it means on a big job like this that your drop coats nice and fast too
Those this technique work with waterborne n solvent thanks so much...
yes ive never used waterbourne any different to solvent tbh just longer flash off times with being water
Older video mate I know, just wanted to say something nice. I'm in the US and been painting for 8 years now, and at times I feel crestfallen with the trade. I've recently been watching youtube videos of other sprayers (something I probably should have been doing a while ago) and it has helped me reaffirm myself that I love what I do. Thanks for the vids.
Hey buddy thankyou fella , and can I just say thanks for taking the time to say that mate , we all loose our passion in this industry at times even me and that’s what inspired me to start this channel when I got my passion back and yano of one out of all the many videos helps someone like yourself to get your passion back for this job I love then that’s what matters stay safe buddy , Tony
i have a Sata 4000 and thats the Gun thats works for all the paint jobs Thanks Tony and Regards from Holland
Thanks for watching frits
Nice vid tony! I’ve had my entech for about 3 years now spraying standoblue and I do love it. You make a really good point about the flash off times being minimal! I am curious what you use for a wet on wet gun. I’m currently using sata 2000 but am ready to upgrade. Please make a vid on wet on wet
Hi , I rarely use wet on wet tbh usually if I do it’s just where the lads have rubbed through on prep and then I use my sata 3000b mini gun as it lays it down really fine , larger bits say when I do candy ect then il use my bellairia tbh it lays it really smooth and nice
Mase AK hi,I also use standoblue ,thinking of getting ls 400 entech,could I ask your set up,just to get me started,would be very grateful.fan,fluid,psi,many thanks in advance
Tim reeks ,
I use full fan and full trigger at 26 psi and do an 80% coverage coat about 6” away then do my drop coat same pressure about 10-12” away at a reduced speed 🤘🏻
Mase AK thanks my friend,for answering,will give it a blast👍🏻👍🏻
Great review. do you prefer using the 1.3 or the 1.4 for base coats wit the LS400?
1.3 always mate thanksyou
Tony this is ET or ETS nozzle setup?
Hey Tony I’ve been watching all your videos and you have taught me a lot so thank you :)
I use to use my pro lite 1.3 te20 2 and half turn fluid out full fan 2 bars on a Ford moon dust silver find it hard to make the metallic lay down evenly.
But after one of your video for clear coat guns pro lite 1.3 t110 set up so I’ve decided to try it out for my water borne base coat and bammm! You have made my life a lot easier :) thank you from Essex !!
Thanks buddy and glad my videos have helped you buddy thanks for watching
What's the minimum compressor size requirement for this kind of gun?
Hey thanks for you video great video but l have a question with this gun ls 400 l can use for a clear coat too or just for base coat?thanks
You can use for Clear too but it’s best as a basecoat gun that’s what it was designed for , and I don’t like to put clear through my base guns either
What pressure are you spraying at? Is the entech a lot better than the ls400 with the gold cap?
I couldn’t say as I’ve not used that aircap mate and it should have the pressure in the video
Hi Tony. You said that you use nothing but sata guns in your own shop. Which gun do you use for basecoat..... Keep up the good work
Well bar basecoat lol I use the ls400 for base at my shop now buddy , I’d love to use the hvlp 5500 x 1.3 I for base but I just don’t have the cash for one atm , I’ve had one on loan though for a few weeks and it’s an awesome base gun
Hey Toni, do you know anything about Iwata 5858 LS400-1403 HVLP-Hybrid Coarse Atomization Spray Gun ? Or it's a very old model of LS 400 Entech?
hi im afraid not ive never heard of that model of it just had a quick look online but can see much of a description on them when i see them for sale
Hi Tony do you think these guns are better than the devilbiss gti pro range ?
By a million miles lol 😂
Tony another super video,it makes me happy when you upload new videos each time. Keep up the good work buddy,greatz from the Netherlands
nice to see you hear again , its great to see regular viewers in the comments thanks for joining us again mate
Hey man I have an opportunity to purchase an ls400 pininfarina or a rp5000 both new at a great price. Which should I choose and why? Thank you
Personally id go for the iwata , its design in its atomisation of the paint is second to none for laying metallic and pearls
@@TonysRefinishingTV great! I do plan on spraying those too. Appreciate the quick response. It has a split tip or something that further helps atomization right?
@@Harlo86 yes mate it has the split tipped fluid tip which is designed to atomise the paint far better than other guns out there its great at low pressure for drop coats ect
Great video, looks like you take a lot of pride in your work. I'm after a respray for my car but all the places I go to don't fill me with confidence. After a really high end finish but seem to get fobed off with things like, 'there's no need to remove the lights' 'the paint we use you don't need a clear coat' (even though I want one) and so on. Any advice you could pass on, (I'm from South Wales UK.) On where and how I could source out a high quality paint job.
thanks yes i do take great pride in my work, you could always bring it up to my shop in cheshire and we could do it for you depending on what your after im sure we could accommodate what you want , if this is of interest then inbox me through our facebook page
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks I have a brother in Manchester, I'll have to see if I'm able to coordinate something.
your more than welcome to pop over anytime just let me know before hand so i can make sure im there any more info just get in touch through the facebook page
Hi,Tony.Did you tried ws 400 for solvent basecoat.I bought ws with hd air cup .I use it for base,and i would love to now differance on ls -ws for solvent?
Is it better to work with ls ?
Yes the ls400 is specifically for basecoat mate and it better for it too
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks.
That's a good gun friend I've used that for clear many times 4 turns out on the fluid cut the fan in 25% glass finish bro
I’ve given the manufacturer settings in this as they are where it should be setup but everyone will alter it slightly different
Bonjour
Vous peignez en base solvanté avec svp ?
Ls400 how many cfm does a gun like require what psi do you spray base coat and also clearcoat at.
14.2 cfm
Do you recomand ls 400 entech for solvent base coat ? With thé same set up ?
Yes mate
Sweet review! I’ve never really fancied upgrading basecoat gun either but now I’m going to look into it! This gun does look sweet
really nice gun ash , not only to paint with but in your hand too , really is a pleasure to spray with even on big jobs like this merc , most guns are ok for smaller jobs but good guns shine on larger areas and hard colours and this definitely does
Tonys_Refinishing the fan looks huge as well even wound in to its even pattern. I do like a bigger fan
yeah even though its a huge fan its nice and even mate goos size good output and nice and quick to paint with if youve got a big job on the go
Hi, what settings are you using for basecoat with this gun? Full fluid?
i rarely use full fluid tbh mate usually id say im in the mid range for fluid its hard to give setting for base tbh as most people set base guns to feel
@@TonysRefinishingTV Fair enough, thanks for the reply!
Hi Tony, have you tried the blue cap w400 classic its like the bellairia but its the basecoat version, i love mine
i havent mate but ive always been a huge fan of the bellairia as you probably know if you've watched our vids , iwata do make some cracking guns for there price point
Is two and a half turn out is good for basecoat and clearcoat or in ?
How do you mean mate two and a half turns of what fan fluid ?
For spraying basecoat and clearcoat for beginners
Possibly stupid noob question if you don't mind me asking. On the areas you painted it looks like there were some areas of body filler applied and possibly(?) primed light gray. I've always been under the impression that when painting something, priming the entire area the same uniform color was needed to achieve a good uniform appearance with the topcoat. My knowledge is based on DIY painting of household things though. Is there a reason why this car didn't get a uniform primer coat first, or is doing this really not necessary when painting cars?
As long as you make sure you have coverage you don’t need to prime entire sections. It also saves money, time and materials. If you give the primed areas a coat first it saves giving the entire panel(s) that first coat as well 👍
as ash said lol
Thanks for the video mate. Looks like my basecoat gun is going to be the new Sata 5500 X HVLP i just ordered but I really was looking at this gun for base.
The sata in the 1.3 I for base if it’s in your budget range is awesome mate cant fault the choice
@@TonysRefinishingTV oh its on its way and should be here sometime today.
Lovely video! Do you think you can make a video on setting the LS and WS 400 up? I know you described it but it would be nice to see it as well thanks!
Hi matt yes i suppose i could mate for you good idea for a video to be honest
@@TonysRefinishingTV Thanks that would be great, having the WS and LS 400 in the same video on setting them up will bring crazy new viewers, because many videos show how to on one and not the other never get around to the other gun. also there new guys like me who picked up the pair and would like to see a set from a professional like your self :) . Looking forward the video if you make it. also thanks for replying to my comment means a lot not many youtube check or reply to comments.
@@TonysRefinishingTV maybe going over this too in the video will help out a lots of people like explain the fan patters, fluid amount, air etc. of the ws and ls 400.
anestiwata.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2015-spray-gun-catolog.pdf
update: maybe also talking about the tips because I've seen other tips like the LPH400 LVX LVB VS the ones that straight on the gun. If you can help explain if there any good or know the pros and cons of them.
Also would you recommend spraying primer with the supers novas?
il definitely get it done mate i may even be able to shoot the video this week for you and make this nexts weeks video and its not easy to get back to everyone but i always try my best to get back to all questions on here , instagram and facebook at the end of the day you guys are what makes the channel as without you watching there is no channel
Hi Matt can you do me a favour buddy an email me at tonysrefinishing@gmail.com cheers
Tony the tips and air cap on the ls could fit the ws 400
Hi I use a ws400 for clear 2turns out on fan 3turns out for fluid
it should be run full fluid which ive been doing recently try it its an ever better gun if you do
Hi. Did you use the same set up for base as you did for the high solids and clear at the beginning. I have a pair of iwata and can not seem to get them set up correctly
What issues are you having setting them up mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV I just seem not to be able to get enough paint out and seems to put it on really thin. Also the fan feels like there's more on top and bottom and not allt in the middle
Mark Smythe then the dan all the way in and then bring it back out 1 3/4 turns only mate it’ll be a lot wetter and Allt more even then
@@TonysRefinishingTV thank you for the advice.
Anytime mate if you get stuck in the future message me through our Facebook page always try to help where I can
Do you have problems on the iwata guns that it dries in the tip if you wait for dust coat...it like when you start working the dustcoat (waterbased) it spits out in the middle of spraying?..
honestly i dont really use water im afraid i wish i did though lol, but matbe one of the viewers will help out on that question for you
Kenneth, i have these problems with ls400...i have 2 of these with 1.4 ets fluid tip...i use ppg envirobasr and debeer 900+ waterborne , and yes, the paint or paint "dust" accumulates between those slits if left too long btw coats, especially in summer.....and you go to spray and booom, it spits out hardened granulated basecoat....then stop everything and go sand sand..
Thx pere for answering this...i thought i was the only one that had this problem...going insane about this problem but as long as we now about it its good to stay ahead of the problem:)
@@kennethandersen6920
we all here to share and learn...i use this gun for my whites and white pearl 3 stage, ..so i always always look into that fluid tulip tip and observe if any debris , paint particles are present....if i see any, i take a littke brush witb waterborne cleaner, wipe it off, do a test spray and then onto panel....
Hi Tony,do you ever use the cheater valve on the bottom of the gun and what exactly is it used for ?
the air valve on the actual gun or the regulator i put on the gun mate ?
Tonys_Refinishing The air valve on the gun mate 👍
got ya so personally i leave the air valve on the gun all the way open mate then use a regulator under the gun to control the pressure as it has a gauge on it
Tonys_Refinishing Cheers Tony thanks for the reply bud 👍
Steve Guest no problem at all fella thanks for watching
I have one mini gun and 7 gti pro's and they are al i use for base and clear they work just fine for me so i don't realy feel the need to buy a new gun but when i can get one for a good deal i will pick it up 😉
7 gti pros wow lol , im not against devilbiss just think theres better out there for the money buddy, know alot that love them and wouldnt give them up personally just not my sort of gun
@@TonysRefinishingTV what they cost is not realy my concern the boss has to supply me with my tools like guns and sanders i find it a weird concept that people have to buy their own guns or sanders i am here to do my job and if you don't supply me with tools i can not do my job its just that simple if i was a freelancer then it would be a diffrent story
I know I’m commenting late since you put this out a year ago but thank you so much for explaining the difference between WS and LS so well it’s helped greatly . I’ve watched other reviews and demos and not one has come close to telling the difference . Thank you very much this channel is the best !
hey thanks for watching i plan to go into these guns in abit more detail soon in a dedicated video and itll be a special one, and i greatly appreciate the comment we always try to do our best to get everything over in our videos as much as we can to help viewers of all types, great to have you with us
Tonys_Refinishing I can not wait for the in depth video . I think this has become my most wanted gun . I’m going to start saving for one now... right after I save up for that compressor I want . No point having a gun like that with just a small handy mans compressor and btw I greatly appreciate you taking the time to reply
no problem at all man i try to answer all questions as best i can buddy thats surely the whole point of the channel to help you guys as much as we can
A comparison between the LS400 and the Sata 5000/5500 HVLP would be interesting.
Really nice review!
Greetings from Germany
Hey jonas we have a review coming on the HVLP sata 5500 x very soon mate
2 QUESTIONS Why no sealer and why no lock down adhesion promoter for scratches?..
Not my shop this mate had to be done how the boss wanted
What basecoat you used (ppg envirobase?)
no its called mobihel and its solvent
I agree Tony this gun is amazing after some guidance from the master Gavin from iwata. I've been using iwata for many years now
nice to hear of more people hes reached out to , the issues always been with these guns that the sellers give no guidance on setup, or most anyway so people dont know where to start and then end up giving them a bad name when infact this guns by far one of the best you can buy
Ahem! PMP and Gav work hand in hand and ALWAYS advise buyers on setup so UK customers should feel confident in the support they will receive from us @@TonysRefinishingTV
Lol I did say most don’t lol , I have to say though you guys are an exception you give every bit of advice you can and go the extra mile to help customers too , which is exactly why your the best firm for us to work with on our channel
Nice review Tony ! 👍
Thanks buddy
How to order parts only nozzle only iwata ls 400 -05
your local distributor
Hey bro l have the ws400 but will like to know if the ls400 needle and tip will work on it
Zero to Hero 24/7 yes its great on both!
Hi, have you had the chance to test the LS400 iata for a conventional base?
How do you mean a conventional base mate
I love my gti pro and my pro lite for both base and clear but have to say I have the ws 400 and the ls400 both lay down much flatter and I think use less material. Sometimes a little too good, the pro lite with te20 seems to nail the factory orange peel.
it also comes down to personal preference mate , the iwatas do lay down lovely compared rp the prolite in my eyes thats not saying its a bad gun but set up right these are phenomenal guns
Awesomeness brother 😁👍
thanks man
I love ls400 for base but bit to slow for clear for me !devil bliss for clear for me great review
i only use it for base for clear i use the ws400 which setup right is a quick as any gun out there
@@TonysRefinishingTV would it be a bad decision to purchase this gun as a dedicated clear gun for a new painter?
Which one mate the ws400?
@@TonysRefinishingTV the ls400 entech 1.3
I’d go for the w400 bellairia 1.3 tbh as a beginner
Have you ever cleared with it?
No as I’ve got the ws400 for clear
What's your settings for silvers?
Need a big compressor to run these ls400's I've got a 3hp 200ltr 11cfm snap on compressor and it wont give me 1.5 bar Haha had to upgrade to a screw compressor just to run 1 gun 🤦♂️
See I’ve got a 150lt 5.5hp standard compressor runs it no issues at 2.0 bar you need 14cfm min to run a gun and keep the tank topped up , it’s no worse for air than any other gun
@@TonysRefinishingTV yeah see you've got that extra volume from your 5.5hp motor it works fine with clear gun its them hvlp guns that guzzle air
nice vid..awesome talk..superrrr
Thankyou
top review
Thanks
Anybody tried glasurit 923-625 HS CLEAR with the iwatas evo 1.3Hd?
I use this now and struggeling to get it to stretch proparly because its massiv thick (viscosity 20s) so if any have some setting recomandation etc id love to hear about it.
I use the lotus and caterham editions of the evo ws on both base and clear...just love it for base and on clear (roofs and bonnets like glass but still some struggles along sides of car to get that nice finish i want)..
Hope to hear from someone thats using glasurit or used it:)
kenneth andersen I use it at my shop I just over reduce it. I use the 5000rp tho. I’m not a big fan of the supernova.
@@techn9ne206thx for sharing:)
How much do you overreduce it?...i now put in normal amount (33% thinner) and take in extra 20% of the 33% in it..seems to work a little better...
thats about 40% total reducing:)...
@@techn9ne206 another thing with the overreducing is that it seems to pull back on the glossiness after finishing the drying so i've tried out the 630 clear a bit with 532-15 racing additive in it instead of 30 thinner..seem to hold the gloss and dry in same time as the 625 so thats a pluss:)
Try heating the clear up before you spray it. You can sit the clear and hardener tins in hot water for about 20 min before you clear. I find this really helps the clear to flow and it goes on really nice. In a pinch, you can even microwave the activated clear for 20-25 seconds, but don't overdo it!
Great review mate mite look at one ov these I have a ws400 obs for base
What’s that setup like then buddy , never heard of obs?
@@TonysRefinishingTV I set it up pretty simular to hd approx 2 turns out on fan n full fluid it's same air cap obs stands for optimized base setup
Got ya lol never heard of that
Its the one with the gold knobs Tony, was replaced by the Supernovas, LS and WS @@TonysRefinishingTV
got ya lol i only know the ones i have now and they are awesome
Nice
Thanks man
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Nice 👍 fan setup?? Please
It does say in the video , fan all the way open and then turn it back in two turns
Product setud
So many words ... stop listen yourself be efficient