The Most TRAGIC K2 Stories MARATHON!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Climbing K2 is one of the most difficult climbs there can be, the second highest mountain in the world is in fact much more dangerous than Everest. In this video we retrace 4 tragic stories that occurred along the slopes of Savage Mountain.
Chapters:
00:32 The Mother who challenged K2
12:03 Two Climbers Friends on K2
21:29 The Story of a Married Couple on K2
31:25 Father and Son on "The Savage Mountain"
If the Sherpas turn around, and you continue, it's a suicide mission.
You guys know that mothers are still humans, people, right? They have wants, needs, dreams, aspirations… Children will always be the most important thing in a parents life, but their own needs are also important. Just because you have kids doesn’t mean that you can’t go do what you love. And why is it when a husband dies in a mountaineering accident, no one says he was selfish for going and doing what made him happy.
Tbh, it does seem like she was a bit impulsive, didn’t really think things through, and wasn’t very financially responsible. She wasn’t a perfect person, but she just so happened to have goals and children.
The fact she used all her families money, left them in serious debt, and homeless says one thing. She is a piece piece of garbage
I agree, mothers should not resign to their dreams, but that was bit out of limits….
Thats all good and grand but you have goals that make the world and your life better. You have goals that will result in your death; are expensive and cause hardship on other, family, friends etc...
She sounds to me like an extremely narcissistic person.. when you endeavor into the fact her son died trying to "find his mother" or do the journey in her honor. That's freaking tragic and if not for her ego and narcissistic behavior they both might be alive and well today.
@@seanheaney8303 I realize all of that and I don’t defend her choices. I personally wouldn’t have made those same choices. But I also feel that people who love climbing that much and then die doing… would probably be happier dying up there than in a bed somewhere. They live for that stuff. They know full well the risks and still take that chance so I feel they’ve already made their peace with dying if they so choose. I don’t think any of them would choose to stop climbing if it meant a longer life. What’s a long life without happiness? Again I feel awful for how her kids and husband must’ve felt at the time, especially with them being so young and after she completely indebted their family to fund her climbs. But I do think that the recklessness that drives them up there and then killed it pretty inevitable. I have young kids and could die tomorrow getting hit by a bus. And I wouldn’t have died doing what made me happy. I think people who aren’t ready to set their dreams aside temporarily shouldn’t have children until they’re ready to put those dreams aside. I’m not defending her clearly reckless choices but I would bet if you could ask her and her son today if they regretted their choices they’d both say no.
Well Said
Would anyone be go on about a dad dying on a mountain? Or just a woman. So much misogny.
If anything shame her for indebting them.
The reality is that any mother who wants to be the best at anything, you have to sacrifice the care of your children. People don’t like hearing it but that’s what makes everyone respect motherhood so much. Because of the personal sacrifice. Her children need her, that mountain did not.
I was wondering, do people frown on men climbers that have children like they did Allison?
It seems like it’s the same old story. They reach the summit, then, the weather turns for the worst. Exhausted, they then have to shlep all the way down the mountain. This is definitely a gentile sport!
Ya.. she was unbelievably selfish and just plain stupid. How could she do that to her kids? She chose to bring them into the world and therefore she had a responsibility to put them first. Disgusting. It is not admirable to climb these mountains in an unsafe manner in risky conditions without oxygen etc. She should not be praised for being reckless. Period.
She wasn’t reckless. She was an experienced and outstanding climber, Britain’s only professional female mountaineer. Of course you’d never say that about a male climber who was a father, that’s fine, noble and reasonable.
There’s nothing honorable or admirable about dying on a mountain leaving your friends and family to grieve for your loss. Know your limits, it doesn’t matter if you are a man or woman, the self-centered ego that some of these climbers have is unreal.
Something clearly happens to these people, maybe altitude sickness or like you said its ego. A lot of people in these videos are given a simple no brainer choice you can turn around and go back and there is a good chance you'll live and be able to attempt this at some other point, or continue onwards and its only a short distance to the top and you'll probably die on the way back down . And they continue on ahead knowing their chances are slim of making it down.
If not for UA-cam nobody would know who these people are
I believe a person has value in himself/herself. He/she is unique, a complete universe. You don't need to climb mountains to prove your worth. I can understand passion and hobbies but losing your life for that? Not to mention this woman was a so-called example for her children. As a consequence her son also lost his life on a mountain. Sad and unecessary in my opinion. God or the absolute, or happiness are not to be found on a mountain.
I'm not convinced the narrator isn't a bot. The way he keeps saying "the K2" instead of dropping the definite article sounds whacky and is distracting. Since the whole video is on K2, why not just say the mountain?
Yeah I reckon the whole thing is scripted and narrated by AI.
@@sean_dof course it is
After seeing some Videos like these, i see more and more no reason to climb up such mountains other than to die, or getting a video made about yourself, not worth it.
Of all the activities a human can do and tragedies human can experience, climbing & dying on a mountain is the least admirable or sympathetic of them.
These videos are addicting af
Yup
Climbing crack!
I've been watching these videos for 5 days straight now
@chris7brook that's brilliant..! 😂😂😂
I’m an old Southern lady in a wheelchair and I totally addicted to these videos!
Me ,a 31 year old stay at home mama who recently fell down the rabbit hole of watching video after video abt Everest and k2 😂
In that same rabbit hole. Watching climbing triumphs and tragedies of all the world's famous peaks.
Lmao! I watched 14 peaks and have been doing the same for like 3 days 🤣
I have enough challenges in life without putting more obstacles in my way or risking my life.
I too fell down this rabbit hole but I brought popcorn. 😁
Same girl same 😂
As long as you are taking care of baby ans chores its all perfect. Otherwise its just another tragedy in 15 years
I attempted K2 9 years ago and returned from house's chimney it is even below the camp II because I was scared to go further not about myself but for my family my father most importantly. I've no shame in admitting that I preferred to save my life so my family doesn't have to go through a painful phase. Don't let your dreams make you selfish.
Id love to do the trek to K2, but whether or not I can climb that mountian is not a question I need answered. That mountain actively tries to kill you. LOL
Ur fear saved u
I’ve always wondered why ⁉️
And, how do climbers go potty (ie use the toilet) ❓
@@CarolCreates in the snow
@@daysofourlives3982 Absolutely
The double standards how male and female climbers are framed. Apparently male climbers have no kids, they must be rarely fathers nor husbands 😅
Exactly!!!! And in their world it should be seen as more fucked up because they're leaving their family for "vanity" but of course have double standards.. Sad culture we live in.
Exactly the woke/radical feminist brigade ignorantly and arrogantly blabber on stupidly about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy when here in the western world we live in a toxic radical feminist society. Its the gynocentric matriarchy we should be battling against to end misandry, sexism, bullying and misery that the woke/radical feminists bring and encourage. In the western world women are the most privileged and protected class in the history of the world yet males are seen as disposable .
Not a sad culture. A culture that recognises the need for the love of a mother. Women are the caring side of the equation, and if you abandon your children for vanity you are more judged than men, and rightly so.
I don't care about your indignation. It's just human nature. If you don't want to be a mother then just don't. Don't bitch to me about having it both ways.
People criticise Scott Fischer as well. At the end of the day, anyone who puts their hobbies ahead of their kids is a bit of a selfish asshole. I used to work with a woman with two tween daughters whose husband died in a mountaineering accident and it absolutely destroyed all of their lives. Years later, she's still too depressed to hold down a job, they lost their house, and the kids are too depressed to go to college.
@@pancakes4140 the fact that you don’t view fathers as just as important says a lot about your childhood tbh
Yes, you can be a mountain climber and a mom at the same time, but you can't be a mom when you're dead.
Or a mountain climber.
You can't be anything when you're dead. Stop glamorizing motherhood.
@@lelisbetexactly. We are not incubators and maids. We are human with dreams too
you can still be a father
Well said.
Fun fact:
Mortality rate of Everest is 1/100
Mortality rate of K2 is 25/100
You’re welcome. 👍
Goes to show how dangerous k2 is
If the same amount of people who went to mount everest went to k2 ,the death toll of k2 would be massive
Dummy
Really? 1 in 4 die? That’s crazy!
you dont know until you've climbed it bucko.
@@MrWolfheart111 As I don’t suffer from “small penis syndrome”, I’ve never felt the need to validate my masculinity by climbing up a g*damn mountain.
Anytime I’ve wanted to see the view from the top of one I’ve taken a helicopter.
Bucko. 🤣
So not only did she selfishly leave two small children behind knowing full well that she might not make it back to them, she also put the family in such heavy debt that they lost their business and home. Real stand up gal she is. I’m all for people following their dreams/passions but let’s be real here folks, if it’s going to ruin you then maybe it’s time to take a step back until you can afford it.
Shut up.
As true as it may be, let’s not speak ill of the dead, so at least not to sully her children’s memories of their mother. They are old enough to come across all these harsh comments . I’m sure they understand & respect the negative opinions, but they also can rejoice & be proud of her unique achievements.
@@jayesimond9301 EXACTLY.
She followed her passion.
Some people can learn a thing or two from her.
Men go climbing and lose their lives leaving young kids behind and all types of uncertain futures all the time yet they are brave and courageous and you never hear this selfish narrative. Heck! Rob Hall’s wife was 7 months pregnant when he died. I agree that everyone has choices to make and they come with consequences but there are a lot worse things people can do to their families that is selfish.
Yeah, it is a good thing men don’t do things like that.
I can't forget the moment locals were begging Tom and Danielle not to climb nanga parbat this year, I was there in the Basecamp. People even tried to emotionalise Tom by recalling the tragic death of his mother. But as late Ali sadpaara said, they won't listen no one. And both didn't return😢
I think if people want to risk their own asses they should be perfectly free to do so. I definitely advocate for people making responsible decisions regarding their responsibilities and families, but ultimately if someone wants to potentially die on a mountain I say let them.
@@sarahp936 problems arise when rescue teams risk their own lives to save you or collect your corpse to satisfy grieving family members
@@sarahp936same here. I can’t get over all the armchair Quarterbacks on UA-cam that constantly parrot the same old stuff. Let them climb and risk their life if that’s what they want to do!
Even Ali Sadparaa died recently, videos all over UA-cam
Wow, you really climb these crazy mountains?
gotta love how they smile like they are pure wholesome and downtoearth person in front of camera. everytime. but they are just adrenaline junkies
I never understand why people refuse to bring oxygen even if you just bought like the smallest little mini bottle that would get you through a rough spot if you needed oxygen like emergency to keep you from getting that delirium or whatever it's called when you get all loopy from high-altitude where there's not enough oxygen it would really save your life and it's not like it would really add that much more weight or hurt you in any way it's just there for an emergency I think more people died because they didn't have their oxygen
Hypoxia?
EGO, guess where that got em
The oxygen is your blood wouldn’t get a high increase off a small amount of oxygen. That is what causes the problems. People die from oxygen related illnesses when they were on oxygen all the way up the mountain.
I have been hospitalized for hypoxia 4 times since since spring and I don't have to climb anything. The Drs don't know what's causing it,and no I don't have copd or emphazema
@@Vij3eth exactly. To inflate their bragging rights some more. ' I didnt even use oxygen bottles'. Pfff!
climbing these mountains are defintely a testament to the human will, but they are far from heroic. mostly just dreams and ego.
That’s such a privileged sport. When you don’t have enough danger or any issues in your life- just pay $50k to create some very risky situations for yourself on top of a mountain! Not only endangering your own life but then endangering the lives of others when you inevitably need rescue!
Beautifully put
There is no “rescue” from an 8000. 😂😂
Exactly
Not sure this is any more dangerous than kids going to school today in America ... just saying.
@@notme2dayThe difference is school is necessary. Summiting K2 isn’t. As for school shootings, there is no excuse for them but it’s still a very small percentage who are affected. Nowhere the same level of risk.
There is nothing heroic about climbing mountains. It is a sport. If you die doing it, you knew the risks.
Thats kinda like saying children in America understand the risks of going to school today to.
@@notme2daynonsense 😊
Facts
Very sad. I'm never going outside again.
Then there's that dude who skied down this mountain 😂
I know 😂😂😂😂
I've climbed Ben Nevis a few times, that's more than high enough for me! One of the times the weather was great, and I sat for 2hrs just staring at the jaw-dropping views. Hard to imagine the views from these peaks.
I walked up it a few years ago. I absolutely loved it. There were scattered clouds and occasionally the view was completely blocked by cloud/fog, then in an instant, it would whoosh past and reveal the view, then more cloud would whoosh in, it was so cool. Sadly, it was far too cold for me to stay up there that long (i did this at the end of sept). I like the cold, i'm happy in -10 or more, but the wind up there just cut through me. I have never been so cold in my life, even though it was only 0 degrees (apparently, 11 at the base). That really showed me that its the wind that's a killer, not so much the cold. Maybe that's different on proper mountains. Not that i would ever go up Everest or K2😃
Ben Nevis is a hill walk not a climb.
@@wizzyno1566 No bother, Tenzing!
Iv scaled the dizzying heights of Mt Mukish in Ireland and Pen-y-fan in Wales
1400 meters is enough altitude for me.
All these deaths was so preventable! I’ve been binge watching these stories and it seems these people committed Mountain sui…. Knowingly walking into danger but their pride kept them going. So unfortunate for the families of these people.
Yes, preventable by not going there! 😉
I used to climb when I was younger.. but when I had my children….. the greatest mountain you can climb is raising your children up ..with a parent…get em up old enough.. and y’all go to nepal and take a hike up and let them see a little bit of the view.. just sayin
This is the way but you know Darwin needs to collect
Just can't feel sorry for people who put themselves in those predicaments. Their stupidity leaves the families with broken hearts
We the people agree
We can't judge these people. They all knew people who had perished. The father and son helped in the search for the Iranians. They didn't want to die lonely and forgotten in an old folks home with someone changing their diaper's
$74,000 to move a body a few hundred yards.
This obssesion with retrieving DEAD bodies at the risk of LIVING sherpas/porters is immoral. All this crap about "proper burials" is insane.
@@RandallMoore-x4kThey get paid better than 99% of everyone in their entire country to do it, so don't feel bad for them
Almost all high altitude deaths result from excessive hubris and disrespect for mother nature’s power. If you are a climber remember this. It just might save your life.
When I listen to all the stories....the tragedy usually revolves around people that lack the humiilty to recognize they lost
All these stories have side notes of very experienced climbers sherpas guides turning around seeing that circumstances have changed for the worse ...and the people who perish ignore the other experienced climbers and believe thr mountain and mother nature will revolve around them
Yep, and summiting does not equal success if you don't also make it back alive.
Snowdon is pronounced Snowdun. Derbyshire is pronounced Darbysheer.
Thanks for the English lesson but no matter how You say it loads of people will get it wrong. So does it really matter
@@susanhilton3436 Not in the grand scheme of things, but it's always good to pronounce place names correctly when your videos are seen globally. It makes them less distracting. 😊
I like people knowing how it's pronounced. Thank you.
I would prefer to sail around cape horn from east to west in a 10 meter sailing boat. Not without risk, but you will be able to breathe as much as you want, and however crazy sailing around cape horn is it will be my own insanity, not my brain shutting down because of lack of oxygen.
Can I come
@@Caroline-Fraser Sure! All we need is a boat!
Alison Hargreaves: I will not comment on the wisdom of pursuing a climbing career while raising young children.
What I read was that after her death diaries were discovered which detailed prolonged abuse by her husband. My thoughts are that perhaps she preferred to risk death on a mountain rather than at the hands of her husband. Why not divorce? No one can answer that but I prefer to remember her as a courageous and dedicated climber rather than as someone who selfishly put her dreams above the welfare of her children. Men who are fathers frequently engage in all manner of dangerous sports. Numbers of them die in pursuit of their dreams and ambitions, but are rarely criticised for not
being “home Dads” and providers.
Because men normally do “dangerous jobs” to provide for their families. It’s expected from men not women. Same like when titanic sank men stayed women and children left on the boats or nowadays in Ukraine where men aren’t allowed to leave and had to stay and fight. but women were. Idk why you’re complaining about a privilege you have as a women.
@zuk8045 🚩lay off the Andrew tate drug, it's not good for you.
It would be nice if you know how the patriarchal system works, but no, you come online and regurgitate a rhetric that misogynist opt for.
🧣
I totally agree maybe she didn’t have time for reading up on how to divorce instead she showed to be unapologetically selfish mind you the son also died on the same mountain boys are actually more emotionally attached to their mothers what a sad story 😢
@@marianaguriras7722 she didn’t know “how to divorce” what is this stone ages? Holy shit. No accountability just excuses is what I’m hearing.
So she takes off and leaves her children with an abuser, and because of her actions a broker abuser, Allison was a selfish unfeeling person who cared only for herself.
‼️STOP CALLING EVERYTHING “BASE CAMP”‼️
You’re making it confusing bc you’ll say they were headed to Base Camp or radioed Base Camp but then you turn around and call every damn camp a base camp so I don’t know which one you’re even talking about.
Base camps means…exactly what it says. It is the CAMP at the BASE. There is no such thing as Base Camp 1. or Base Camp 4. Base Camp is basically the starting line at 5000m. Then you go up from there with Camp 1 at 6000m, then to Camps 2, 3, and finally 4, which is at 8000m. Sometimes a particular mountain may have an “Advanced Base Camp’, which would be halfway between Base Camp and Camp 1 but that’s the only 2 that are called that. Honestly, it’s just common sense.
ALSO, IT IS NOT CALLED “THE K2”!
It’s just “K2”.
You’re making this look much more difficult than it actually is. If you’re going to dedicate a channel to just discussing mountain climbing and climbing disasters, you should at least learn how to correctly pronounce things.
Ya know, Ive never heard them call a Father who died climbing a mountain and leaving children behind selfish. Its pretty ridiculous
@kellyfarrar...Very good point actually. Thank you for pointing it out for all of us ignorant fathers :-) Children love their both parents so both, mother and father are equally responsible for their kid's wellbeing. But when life is fair? Again, very good point Kelly, it never crossed my mind before you pointed out to it, i am embarrassed to admit.
I am a father of two boys. They don't have to worry though, i am terrified of heights and we don't have Grizzly bears in UK :-)
@@dontcrymasha ha!! I'd love to climb everest, but the season is around my daughters birthday, and I am ridiculous and would probably die. Dying around my kids birthday seems a little rude
@@kellyfarrar6639 Your daughter most likely saved your life :-)
Oh I full on think you shouldn’t even get married if you’re an adrenalin junky. Unless your spouse is equally crazy and ready to die
Well that cuts both ways... Maybe Fathers would be less likely to be criticized for dying while doing something unnecessarily dangerous, however that could also be a byproduct of society viewing Fathers as less important than Mothers, as evidenced by women being awarded custody in a staggering 90% of divorces where children are involved. On behalf of us men, we're willing trade being criticized for dying on K2 if it means having an equal opportunity to win custody of our children.
The comments on here are wild. God forbid a woman do something disconnected from her family.
Exactly, what a dummy
I agree. We are all just baby ovens and slaves to children huh.
Equal rights 😅😅😅
What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his very soul?
Wow... this right here....
I attended one of Hargreaves fundraising lectures for this expedition. She was a highly competent mountaineer. K2 is, however, extremely dangerous.
It’s probably the most challenging of the 8000’s as far as actual climbing skills and physical exertion. Annapurna is very demanding but I think it’s also the lack of established routes and very extreme weather that contribute to all the fatalities.
K2 is unpredictable killer my friend😢
How do you leave the MOST IMPORTANT SHIT travelling abroad in a cab??
He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day!
The FatherSon duo tragedy, screamed turned back as their teammate decended as other climbers as did as well. They got bad vibes as the small avalanche happened. But the father son, so badly wanted to be the 1st dad son duo to reach the top with big ego's found a bigger avalanche while resting. Condolences
THE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE... yet they refused to use basic precautions climbing mountains... THEY KNEW WHEN THINGS GO WRONG THE WILL LIKELY BE KILLED. A death wish rather than a will to overcome is what they had in common.
I have Andean ancestors, and they, alongside the Himalayan folks like sherpas, believe in mountain spirits. I do too.
Every mountain has its own sacred spirit and we usually give small offerings and we greet the spirits before stepping into their territory.
The spirit of K2 is obviously an very angry one.
Mountaineering, for that reason, is not just a sport that should be fueled by personal ambition, it’s a spiritual journey. Every person who puts their selfish needs above their respect for the mountain will sooner or later meet their demise.
The signs were all there and yet they chose to ignore them…
You dont climb mount snowdon. You walk up there. With trainers, and a can of Stella in your hands.
Kinda funny what superstitious people come up with 😂
Mountain spirits aren't real, people climb K2 all the time with no issue.
@@ts7901 K2 has a 25% death rate and only just below 400 managed to summit. Comparing that to the 6300 who successfully climbed Everest, or the 110.000 who climbed Kilimanjaro, I would not call that “people climbing up there all the time”.
K2 has treacherous weather and call it real or not, that’s up to you, but as soon as you put yourself above nature you will not die of old age.
It’s not only the spirit of K2 that is angry, they all are. For years now those mountains have been treated with despicable disregard and disrespect. I’m surprised they allow anyone to climb and descend them successfully. I know I wouldn’t if people who claimed to love me literally s*it all over me and then left me there for the next ignorant chump to do the same. What goes up, must come down, including excrement. I hear Ziplock makes some very strong bags these days.
After having a baby girl, I've basically retired from climbing anything dangerous. My ego has been checked and the only thing I want to do are glorified hikes. There's nothing like being on a mountain, so I can't fault these people. 🙏
Where’s the story of the sherpas that die guiding these rich litter louts up a mountain. 🇬🇧🥸
@@honestcommenterseany441at least they're getting paid. Nobody makes them do it.
@@wizzyno1566they have no other choice but to do it, it’s the only job Sherpas can get when they don’t have an education
@@honestcommenterseany441theyre not forced they dont have to do it
@@tendies9248They do when they have families they need to make an income for, and their other job options are effectively nonexistent in these regions. It's not like they can just do nothing, that's absurd
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In the doc The Last Mountain, Kate, the last surviving child of Alison Hargreaves, she talks about her brother and mother who both perished mountaineering. RIP
Though I am addicted to these climbing videos, the overuse and misuse of certain adjectives is annoying........no one should be surprised when shit goes down on these peaks. To call a death that results from an expensive, purely elective, unecessary choice a "tragedy" a "catastrophe" or a "disaster" is a strange distortion of the language. The sherpas and porters are a different matter entirely, as they are compelled by the dire poverty in Nepal and Pakistan to undertake these risks. The surprise and shock of the relatives and survivors of the clients is emotionally compelling, but not exactly rational. 1 in 4 K2 summiters die......on Annapurna it is 1 in 3. EVERYONE knows this, and I am not saying these peaks should not be climbed, nor am I disrespecting the climbers.
Just an anecdotal PS..........when a snowboarder disappeared while descending MT Everest, one video at least labelled this incident "mysterious". Seriously?
Don't know about you but as I listen to this I get the feeling the script is put together and read by an AI program.
Let’s put our family into crippling debt and then abandon them. Brilliant plan! 👍🏼
You can tell this trash is written by AI
Base 3 is avalanche prone....they need to find another spot obviously......and if there is no obvious spot then obviously K2 death zone begins well below all other 8000 meter mountains
Camp 3 is at 7300m. The Death Zone is 8000m/26,000ft and above. It’s about altitude, it has nothing to do with avalanches. It doesn’t mean that you’re at a greater risk to die or in more danger (you are, but for different reasons). The Death Zone is called that bc your body literally starts to die once you cross the threshold of around 8000m. The oxygen in the air is insufficient to sustain a human body for any extended period of time. Even climbers with supplemental oxygen are advised to spend no longer than 16-20 hours in The Death Zone. Without oxygen, the window for climbers is around 8-10 hours. People have survived for longer up there, but they usually end up dying there bc their body can no longer function well enough to get down. Almost immediately upon climbing higher than 8000m, your cells begin to die and your bodily functions begin to slow. Your brain and muscles are oxygen-starved and you have no control over much of your body the more time passes. Within a few hours you’ll lose consciousness. And shortly after, you die. Even with supplementary oxygen, you’ll die. It could be 90 and sunny and you would still die. Human bodies were never meant to be at that altitude and we can’t survive it. Your body can begin to acclimate to lower elevations, like at Camp 3, but it is impossible to acclimatize at 8000m. So, no, you can’t make The Death Zone lower just bc that area is more dangerous.
Get what you mean but avalanche risk areas already have ratings and as the other person stated well, the death zone is a specific type of dying to humans...and that's exactly why less people have climbed and/or returned from K2
But Camp Three does blow out frequently and has killed many.
So the son of someone who successfully climbed the mountain decided to turn around and then years later the son of someone who died on the mountain, died on the mountain. 😳
He died on nanga parbat 2019
Hillary never climbed K2
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Hypoxia affects judgement. Not a place to have poor judgement.
I think you overestimate the empathy and concern for others in the mountaineering community
Some people climb mountains to see the world, other people climb mountains so the world can see them.
Some people climb mountains to feed their family.
I'm unfortunately in the camp that think Alison Hargreaves was selfish and irresponsible. Raising children is, and always will be, the most important occupation (for both parents) on the planet, period.
My daughters didn't give a fuck about my achievements at the age her kids were. They wanted me there period. That message is just bizarre. When I dropped them off at preschool they thought it was goodbye forever. Id never have left for a year.
Absolutely agreed
I would agree until I have had kids then I kind of understand Alison 😅. Poor kids though but at least they know she died doing something she loved.
Im confused in the married couple k2 story. You said they went in June 1986 & they found Marices body 12 or 13 years later in 1988?
It was a glitch with the AI and it provided misinformation
So are we going to elaborate on the families, financial situation, and dangers they placed rescuers and body retrievers of the perished male mountaineers? Or just the woman?
I thought Tenzing Norgay was the first to summit Everest????
Hillary and Norgay were joint first together
@@whensomethingcriesagain he probably carried Hillary up, most of western climbers get the sherpas and locals to do 99% of the work and dangerous stuff and then they pose for the cameras and bask in the clout
if Allison Hargreaves were a man no one would ask about their family
I read that Allison was supporting her family with income from Sponsors. So maybe her decision to continue to the summit was, in part, thinking about her Sponsors. They want success when they've paid the mountaineer handsomely.
How amazing, I'm glad I don't have any children, and whatever crazy thing I am doing will only affect my parents. Life.
Their story inspires me to NEVER try something so asinine.
A note on pronunciation - Derbyshire is pronounced “Darby-shuh” and snowdon is pronounced “snow-dun.” Yours sincerely, a former resident of Derbyshire
There are zero Sherpas in Pakistan dingdong
That's a job opportunity, mate.
@@tomperry1048 Sherpas only live in Nepal. Sherpa is a race. They are Nepalese. Pakistan they are called porters and guides. There are no Sherpas in Pakistan. Is that clearer? Don't be a stupid lazy American. Show the world you too can be smart
People who do this shit should have to sign some sort of waiver or agreement that no one will recover their body. It’s ridiculous for people to risk their lives to do that, but also for thousands of dollars that could go towards actually helping society goes to rescuing or retrieving fools who intentionally go to places that aren’t easily reached just to say they did.
Yeah...great parenting. Hey kids, I'm off. Hanging my a** over cliffs thousands of feet deep. See ya, there's some frozen food in the fridge.
They always look like they are dying
Because your body is slowly shutting down….
I am risk averse and yet feel no less an equal to the greatest and most admired adventurist. Of course to the climbing worshippers a person as myself is a noone.
But I am content and highly enjoy life and family without the need for drugs, excessive risk, or boosts of addrenaline. It seems so unnecessary for all the deaths and tragedy to occur, particularly for the loved ones left behind. And to what end? These are not trips to space for the advancement of humankind. These are climbs up and down steep hills. It has all been done before. It is a fools sport.
And yet RIP to all of them.
Some people have a long list of family members that will take the children in case something happens. I don't have anyone so my child goes to foster care. No thanks. My feet stay on sea level.
I’m sorry, but don’t men who have young children climb high peaks and no one gives them sh-for it? Come on
Why would a mother with such young babies risk so much? I mean that is horrible
So sick of these fake AI voices. Can't wait until UA-cam bans them.
Weird how they glorify people who climbed themselves to death. As if that’s something we should admire!?
Better a "dead inspiration" for a mother than a live narcissist...too bad she bankrupted the family before her passing...😢
Bankrupted her family and left her children without a mother just so she could go climbing. If that's not totally selfish i don't know what is.
Who is she inspiring? She failed! I don’t find failure or selfishness very inspiring.
Ur only saying that cause she's a woman. Men do this to the family all the time even their suicides too, that's selfish regardless how u feel
@@felonious_unite get some help
@@felonious_uniteI’ll gladly shame any parent who abandons a young child to go mountain climbing or diving or whatever
Climbing K2 for even the very best climbers is a gamble, the weather and avalanches make it unpredictable.
The people who needed rescue weren't all Iranians, there was a Chilean and an Italian too. 3 different nationalities
My prayers go out to those that perished on K2, but I have to say that this Narrative is all AI botwork. The sequence is non-logical !
More men/fathers climb dangerous mountains. but are not judged like women
True. These reckless men even go to war. Can you imagine?
It's about time men got some double standards that benefit them huh, they have to die for it though...
Cry yourself a river
Just wondering, why would people want to climb this mountain and add to the "rainbow trail" ( the area named for the multi colored winter clothing that are on the bodies) in an open grave site full of bodies that can not be retrieved, that they pass on the way up? I dont understand this Mt. Everest/ K2 obsession. Also, I do not understand why people are allowed to go there due to how dangerous of a climb this is.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the corruption of the use of the word rainbow. A rainbow has always been a beautiful site in the sky after a rain storm. Now no one can use it as a word without being snapped at.
Rainbow trail ? Is that a route specifically for LGBTQ people? I thought those people devoted all their time and energy into "activism" not doing exercise
@@laurarules3642 Okay, little buddy, maybe rein in the bigotry when no-one even mentioned LGBTQ people?
@@displayer6023 Look at their other comments. They claim we live in a toxic radical feminist society - hilarous! Either a troll or delusional 😂
I understand the rainbow trail means the colours of the clothes worn by the dead bodies that are stuck there
@@lindadillon3061 yes, my question is why people climb a mountain that has this frozen open grave site and people still want to go there knowing it may be their last day on earth. Maybe It should be call suicide mountain is my thought. I don't understand why people want to or are allowed to go there.
I find it really funny when people say that a woman is selfish for going on some adventures because she had children. Men go on doing the darndest things and are never accused of being selfish or careless for wanting to live their lives on the edge. This woman had the right to go and risk everything for what she believed was her call in life.
Bruh she bankrupted her family
Kids need their mom, get real .maybe you never had your mom.
She bankrupted her family. Stick to facts rather than get hyperbolic. Kids need the nurturing mother.
The monotone AI narration is just too painful to endure... Good grief.
its just stupid to die trying to get to a peak, I don't get it , I just don't!
Yeah i love an own my on motorcycle but after i had my kid it sat in the garage till he graduated. But that’s me
I wonder if the writers for the umbrella academy named their character after her?
I hate that you only hear “decided to climb with little kids at home’ with women climbers and not the men with kids
The men are idiots too. Happy now?
I am now an expert mountain climber from the comfort of my own home
All sad stories - I'm sorry for their families.
Not for all the money in the world would I climb K2
Interesting the women with kids get criticized so much for doing something dangerous. I wonder how many of these mem also had kids. Surely at least some of them.
You obviously never had a mom and she left her family in total debt
@@teewoods4886 Men climbers have done the exact same thing and I have never once heard about the childern they left behind. The only point I was trying to make is that its interesting only women climbers get hate for abandoning their families...why not both?
@Salix_nigra you're getting hyperbolic here.
Ego plus stupidity equals death and tragedy for those left behind.
Attention seekers
Nice to romantisize people who risk their life for nothing.
It meant a lot to them
@@SalticidaeFan No doubt! it meant so much to them that they may have died very happily.
I think that only the people that make it back should be acknowledged as having “climbed the mountain.”
True cause they screwed up big time 😂😂
well, then is it is proven that Mallory reached the summit of everest, it doesnt couint, right?
@@RandallMoore-x4kno because she didnt get vack down
@@RandallMoore-x4kIt is not proven.... No one knows except for two people -- who are dead.
Alison has been dead for 28 years. Debating about the decision to climb k2 is pretty pointless.
Some of the photos during the K2 part look like Everest to me, on the North Col route. Anyway...
The K2???? Do people summit The Everest, The Denali??? No
these people are selfish they act like children, they leave children behind without a care if they make it or not, they even forget MONEY and goods that they needed behind a seat of a taxi cab and NEVER tried to get it back because they didnt feel like FIGHTING with a taxi company???????? and went without it, stuff that they needed to climb with the safest conditions, these people are just grown children.
not heroes.