Oceangate: A Deep Sea Disaster

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  • @Raul-nv7rr
    @Raul-nv7rr 7 місяців тому +109

    I can’t resist these Titan videos… what a catastrophe!! 😮

  • @connormclernon26
    @connormclernon26 7 місяців тому +14

    50 years of safety wiped out by Rush's Titanic Ego.

  • @dalechannel
    @dalechannel 7 місяців тому +112

    It would have been a matter of time until Stockton tried diving to Mariana trench in a carbon fiber sub.

    • @rnsteve2265
      @rnsteve2265 7 місяців тому

      Yea he was a special one.

    • @tavanium
      @tavanium 7 місяців тому +7

      🤣LOL😂 straight facts.

    • @AlanpittsS2b
      @AlanpittsS2b 7 місяців тому +11

      With materials he got a deep discount on

    • @pigramgregory2
      @pigramgregory2 7 місяців тому +9

      The Marianne trench doesn't need any more disasters like The Titanic Submersible. James Cameron made that dive already but in a proper submersible

    • @trollenz
      @trollenz 5 місяців тому

      A trash can with saran wrap made by NASA

  • @KC-andTheSunshineBand
    @KC-andTheSunshineBand 7 місяців тому +211

    This guy Rush’s inflated ego and recklessness killed those passengers.

    • @Ola_Uteligger
      @Ola_Uteligger 7 місяців тому +13

      Too bad it was not more inflated, could have withstood the pressure then.

    • @JabocTheJew
      @JabocTheJew 7 місяців тому +5

      Respect mr Rush

    • @daveroche6522
      @daveroche6522 7 місяців тому

      In fairness, he DID go aboard it himself (that's the ONLY positive thing I can say about that guy). Will we ever witness shovel-faced creepy cretin Musk aboard any of his dumbass rockets, I wonder? Nah - didn't think so......

    • @timpritts1499
      @timpritts1499 7 місяців тому

      ​@@JabocTheJewRush is nothing but a narcissist and murderer!

    • @Jean_Pierre_Wehry
      @Jean_Pierre_Wehry 7 місяців тому +11

      They knew the risks. He didn't hold a gun to their head. Everything he told them, he believed to he true, including the risk of death like stated on the consent form.

  • @JasonTan-9757
    @JasonTan-9757 7 місяців тому +89

    Rush's fatal flaw is his refusal to listen to people who know better about the material, carbon fibre. Rules doesn't restrict innovation, it saves lives by making sure innovation produces safe and better machines rather than cheap and unsafe machines.

    • @felixf4378
      @felixf4378 7 місяців тому +4

      @@JasonTan-9757 Plus he could have easily tested a smaller scale sub, but he didn’t have the money so he just went ahead with a sub full of people.

    • @davinp
      @davinp 7 місяців тому +1

      @@felixf4378 he also didn't get Titan certified as he didn't want to spend the money

    • @3beltwesty
      @3beltwesty 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JasonTan-9757 pressure and vacuum chambers have had several centuries of failures with metal designs. Now add fiber where most designs are pressure vessel.
      The sub is reverse ie higher pressure on the outside so like a vacuum chamber. Ie buckling issue.
      Now you have composite materials where the fiber has about zero strength in compression
      So the goop holding the fiber really is the key concern
      That is a ridiculously dangerous design so a giant risk..
      Ignoring engineering risks just causes an issue.
      Fatigue failure has over a dozen hokey variables even under the best conditions.
      In the prior dives you can have small cracks that water got and flowed back out with each dive cycle. This can make cracks grow in size.
      That was known decades ago.
      As an engineer the flaw to me seems using a composite design. Why not metal that is easier to test and has historically worked?

    • @thebighoney9034
      @thebighoney9034 6 місяців тому

      @@3beltwesty because he was cheap. "Safety is a waste at some point" he said.

    • @michaelwong9411
      @michaelwong9411 6 місяців тому +2

      The insane thing is that with his aeronautical engineering background, he himself knew plenty about carbon fibre. The problem was his attitude. He must have known that carbon fibre has weaknesses, but it's something he was familiar with because of his years in aviation. He preferred and trusted it because he used it before, even though it was not appropriate for this application. It's all about ego.

  • @ray8304
    @ray8304 7 місяців тому +83

    Rush’s statement that we’re bringing ocean exploration to everyone at a mere 250,000 bucks a piece shows just how out of touch with reality he really was!!! Many people don’t make that much money in 8 to 10 years! That’s a really stupid thing to say by a very selfish individual

    • @mudman6156
      @mudman6156 7 місяців тому

      What? YOU DON’T HAVE $250,000 stuck in your sock drawer? Why, EVERY AMERICAN has that!!! What’s a mere $250,000? That’s chump change!!!! Especially when you’re as delusional as Stockton Rush was!!!! Obviously he thinks that price brings his adventures down to where EVERYONE CAN AFFORD TO GO!!! I’m already signed up to go in the spring of 2025!!! It’s non-refundable, but at that price, WHO CARES???

    • @PopTart698
      @PopTart698 7 місяців тому +14

      That’s because people like him don’t view those kinds of people as people to be classified as everyone.

    • @BillSikes.
      @BillSikes. 7 місяців тому +6

      @@ray8304
      Most wealthy people are like that

    • @JuliusCaesar888
      @JuliusCaesar888 7 місяців тому +6

      You're being disingenuous on purpose here. With context, he is correct. There are millions of people in the world who can afford $250k, and when they fuel progress in a sector, it becomes cheaper for everyone else over time. It was clearly a broad statement that most critical thinkers could understand. Sorry you couldn't.

    • @ray8304
      @ray8304 7 місяців тому +2

      @@JuliusCaesar888 obviously, Caesar could afford a ticket and look how he ended up. As with most wealthy people the more money they acquire the more narrow their thinking becomes. I don’t think Rush was thinking about that when he vastly cut corners and side stepped certifications in order to avoid the costs associated with building it. Because, had he done it right he and his passengers would still be alive but they probably would have had to pay several times as much for the trip. So much for critical thinking buddy

  • @knowsmebyname
    @knowsmebyname 7 місяців тому +29

    Lately some people have defended Stockton Rush and commenting that people are being to harsh on him. Unbelievable. Everyone in the industry said his vessel would implode...it imploded. I am not a person to judge another harshly but ol Stockton is a worthy exception.

    • @subkarl
      @subkarl 7 місяців тому +2

      Only his Bohemian Club buddies

    • @knowsmebyname
      @knowsmebyname 7 місяців тому

      @@subkarl you mean the big owl boys? He was one of them?

    • @subkarl
      @subkarl 7 місяців тому +1

      @@knowsmebyname Yup- but they only let him in to be the entertainment cause his dad had been the president - there lies the motivation for this whole thing

    • @knowsmebyname
      @knowsmebyname 6 місяців тому

      @@subkarl had something to prove did he then? "I am somebody!" That makes sense if its true.

    • @knowsmebyname
      @knowsmebyname 6 місяців тому

      @@subkarl was he wealthy?

  • @mb41329
    @mb41329 7 місяців тому +79

    The search for the sub was a sham. They knew it imploded.

    • @timpritts1499
      @timpritts1499 7 місяців тому +3

      EXACTLY!

    • @same5952
      @same5952 7 місяців тому +23

      "Knowing" and having tangible evidence are two different things.

    • @juliusfucik4011
      @juliusfucik4011 7 місяців тому +8

      In this case there was no difference. The Navy recorded the sounds of the implosion.
      Or does sound that 100% corresponds to an imploding submarine not count es evidence? 😂

    • @thefrase7884
      @thefrase7884 7 місяців тому +4

      They knew it imploded but they also wanted to collect the debris. It wasn’t a sham at all.

    • @WorldwideWyatt
      @WorldwideWyatt 7 місяців тому +1

      @massdebation how is oceangate supposed to pay?

  • @geraldtn3175
    @geraldtn3175 7 місяців тому +67

    Rush is a criminal.. ahem, was a criminal

    • @goofusmaximus1482
      @goofusmaximus1482 6 місяців тому +2

      @geraldtn3175 now he's history. And biomass on the ocean floor.

  • @flapjack413
    @flapjack413 7 місяців тому +39

    Well, at least they weren't lying when they billed it as a "once in a lifetime trip".

    • @LadyOaksNZ
      @LadyOaksNZ 7 місяців тому +1

      My thoughts too...

    • @lisam8044
      @lisam8044 7 місяців тому

      All the professional subs do not look like a tank with a tiny window, not even close...why why why would.these people pay each that money for that? You would think they would have had the intelligence to know better....the tiny window yet...

  • @danieldevito6380
    @danieldevito6380 7 місяців тому +46

    Rush's greed and narcissism killed these people

    • @AlanpittsS2b
      @AlanpittsS2b 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree to an extent. That being said these people all agreed and paid money to go on this thing and even signed waivers. I feel bad for the teenage kid who wanted to make his dad happy and I do also for the rest because Stockton absolutely sold them on it and unfortunately they trusted him. But there were two of the passengers with vast experience diving to titanic and they still chose to go. Idk. People are and should be free to do what they want but they need to do some research on what they are doing.

  • @TheRocco96
    @TheRocco96 7 місяців тому +105

    One of the ugliest aspects of this disaster is that the media milked this story for days with the rumors of "96 hours of oxygen" and "we heared banging noises" while it was known that the sub imploded on Sunday.

    • @BeccaJoyDowdaBriscoeMoorehead
      @BeccaJoyDowdaBriscoeMoorehead 7 місяців тому +9

      The media only reported what those supposedly in the know were yelling them. And they later said they withheld info for hopes sake.

    • @livetotell100
      @livetotell100 7 місяців тому +17

      @@BeccaJoyDowdaBriscoeMoorehead Hope does not compare to lying to the public. They knew, and said nothing because of HOPE? Such BS. It's called click bait.

    • @guitarista67
      @guitarista67 7 місяців тому

      Oh, please. A conspiracy under every rock. The navy didn’t tell anyone they heard the implosion.

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 місяців тому +10

      It wasn’t publically known that the sub had imploded. Medias reported what they were told and as such, keeping up hopes for relatives and families.

    • @amandaburnham8626
      @amandaburnham8626 7 місяців тому +11

      Everything that I've read abs watched indicated that the heads of all the rescue parties and agencies were in unison telling the media there was hope, slim perhaps but hope. If you watch interviews with people like James Cameron, it's clear he's holding back, saying all hope was lost, and the second communication ended. He's actually directly asked a few times, and he deflects his answer. He said it was out of respect for the rescue operations that he didn't bluntly say anything. He was being interviewed for his expertise in the submersible industry. The navy and coast guard should be held accountable more in the instance than the media.

  • @TheCatLady65
    @TheCatLady65 7 місяців тому +4

    Just after this happened I was watching a game show on ITV, obviously filmed months in advance. The host asked the one contestant what he would do if he won a lot of money. He answered that he wanted to go down to see the Titanic!

  • @xelldincht4251
    @xelldincht4251 5 місяців тому +2

    "Every safety rule and regulation is written in blood."
    Stockton Rush had to learn this the hard way. The sad part is other people had to die too because they trusted him

  • @dianesaienni5466
    @dianesaienni5466 7 місяців тому +39

    bring the ocean explore to everyone....who has 250 thousand dollars for the trip that uses a play station 🎮 and glow sticks for light!

    • @fanatamon
      @fanatamon 7 місяців тому

      And the pressure vessel was glued to a different substance i.e the metal end pods that is not good enough should have been bolted but clearly this was just one thing of many serious issues.

  • @Ola_Uteligger
    @Ola_Uteligger 7 місяців тому +58

    The Atlantic had a crush on Rush.

    • @boojryt
      @boojryt 7 місяців тому +8

      Brilliant comment

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 7 місяців тому +4

      And sadly the 4 other victims he took with him on his aquatic game of Russian Roulette, among them two paying customers he conned with his snake oil patter. Rush sold these Titanic trips as being no more dangerous than crossing the road. But he had to know each pressurisation of the carbon fibre coke can, weakened it. It was only a matter of when, not if, it imploded at depth.

    • @Chrisoula17
      @Chrisoula17 7 місяців тому +1

      @@boojryt, best comment ever!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kirktongue6544
      @kirktongue6544 7 місяців тому +1

      You can really dance wooo

    • @nyki7fykxtjxyi
      @nyki7fykxtjxyi 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Ola_Uteligger that should be a song

  • @donaldcarpenter5328
    @donaldcarpenter5328 7 місяців тому +24

    "Everyone" couldn't come up with the 250,000 $ apiece for a seat. I don't even think a luxury suite on the Titanic itself costs so much!

    • @pajemmapants
      @pajemmapants 7 місяців тому +3

      I can’t find an exact number but the most expensive ticket in today’s money was probably less than half of the price. The highest estimate I’ve seen is $100,000

    • @blunthonesty8633
      @blunthonesty8633 4 місяці тому

      I heard something about it was at one point the cost of a place on the Titanic plus inflation. But I'm not certain how accurate that is.

  • @JohnWest-zq5gs
    @JohnWest-zq5gs 7 місяців тому +24

    This man Stockton Rush should not have been allowed to work on anything like that he was irresponsible didn't care about other people's safety very reckless man

    • @lindaclarkq8326
      @lindaclarkq8326 7 місяців тому

      Well he won't do that again will he ??

    • @JohnWest-zq5gs
      @JohnWest-zq5gs 7 місяців тому

      @@lindaclarkq8326 no he won't that's for sure is the supervisor of the swimming pool on the Titanic is full of water

  • @johnstjohn1987
    @johnstjohn1987 7 місяців тому +8

    Rush: "Carbon Fibre is a great Matterial"
    Atlantic: "So you have chosen Death?" 😂

  • @Runehorn
    @Runehorn 7 місяців тому +68

    Boeing involved and it fell apart? Say it isnt so.

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 місяців тому +7

      He bought aged carbon fibres from Boeing and that’s where it stopped.

    • @X737_
      @X737_ 7 місяців тому +6

      Shoulda went with airbus 😂

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 7 місяців тому

      Boeing only sold him some old carbon fiber material that they no longer wanted. They had nothing to do with the design or assembly. The University was not involved, either. He lied to make the process sound legitimate. Boeing used to be the gold standard when engineers ran the company. Then they switched and let accountants run the company who didn't understand the importance of good engineering and assembly practices. All they focused on was the bottom line.

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 I wonder what kind of condition that material was in. Bad enough that he used material that was completely wrong for the application, but if he used old material that wasn't in good condition, that makes it even worse. He thought he was a great engineer. He was a hack.

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 місяців тому +7

      @@cremebrulee4759 The worst is that if there was internal delamination in the carbon fiber fuselage, it could have been detected with ultrasound scanning. It would have shown any voids, pockets of air, in the test. I used to work as a NDT-technician in the wind turbine business, where my job was to find and detect air voids in the lamination of the blades. I’m not saying that it could have prevented the accident, but it’s a possibility.
      But yes, he was a hack.

  • @markrowland1366
    @markrowland1366 7 місяців тому +15

    Carbon fibre is for tension not compression.

    • @greglane3978
      @greglane3978 7 місяців тому

      Yes !!!!! Worked great on COPVs pressure vessels.. Subs in compression not so much.

    • @philhealey4443
      @philhealey4443 7 місяців тому

      @markrowland1366 That was my simplistic basis as an engineer for deciding not to entertain a new Cannondale mountain bike with a carbon fibre front mono fork. Just knowing at some point that unpleasantness would likely strike.

  • @brotjack
    @brotjack 7 місяців тому +10

    Imagine paying $250k for your own death while still alive.

  • @stephanieanderson2263
    @stephanieanderson2263 5 місяців тому +1

    This is why safety is the one important thing when it comes to underwater expeditions. Stockton should have deflated his ego and just listened to the people who knew better about the material, Carbon fiber. Rules don't restrict innovation, it saves lives by making sure that innovation produces safe and better machines rather than cheap and unsafe machines. I'm honestly glad that people spoke up about Titan not being safe, you are bolted into a literal Deathtrap with no chance of escape

  • @celinaprieto-zo2mh
    @celinaprieto-zo2mh 7 місяців тому +10

    The Titanic is a place to respect ; many people died is not to be a circus.

    • @ThatFullTimeBot
      @ThatFullTimeBot 7 місяців тому +1

      I totally agree let them rest in peace.... sad that the dead can be used as a way to get ahead or to make quick cash

    • @Shadowhunterbg
      @Shadowhunterbg 7 місяців тому

      @@ThatFullTimeBot The dead are long gone and don't care what happens to the ship. The passengers and staff got turned into human paste and eaten by the creatures of the sea. They are gone. They don't exist anymore in any shape or form so you can't disturb something that doesn't even exist on atomic level.

  • @daveroche6522
    @daveroche6522 7 місяців тому +12

    Billionaires gronking on about their vanity projects - "Ooh look, we're exploring....." as how many on Planet Earth are homeless/starving/in poverty? Personally I still find it impossible to feel ANY sympathy for any of those on board that ego trip (with the possible exception of the kid). Just being practical here.

    • @Charlie3vans
      @Charlie3vans 5 місяців тому

      @@daveroche6522 tbf Rush had a net worth of around 20 million. He was not even close to a billionaire

  • @infrasleep
    @infrasleep 7 місяців тому +6

    Well...I suppose the positive thing about all this is that now, no one will ever dive in any submersible that isn't certified-let alone "experimental"- and any patents Rush had for his "innovative" carbon fibre hull are less than worthless..

  • @Ronnie500
    @Ronnie500 7 місяців тому +28

    The more money people have the more reckless they become with their lives.

  • @katiemendez5219
    @katiemendez5219 4 місяці тому +1

    I believe it decending to quickly had alot to do with the implosion. The sub couldn't withstand the pressure.....The carbon Fiber wasn't efficient. It likely had cycling fatigue from prior dives & it wasn't in any way safe for that last dive. Such a sad preventable tragedy. Wish this guy would have listened to these experts warnings.......it did exactly what they feared......imploded & took the life of a 19 yr old that was terrified to begin with but wanted to support his father's desire to go that father's day. RIP to all 5 men though. So Sad.....hoping people will take this as a lesson that the ocean isn't a playground & experts DO KNOW what they are talking about. 💔💔

  • @jefffuller9918
    @jefffuller9918 7 місяців тому +4

    Rush's wife is the great granddaughter of the Strauss who were on the Titanic. I can't imagine what she must feel.

    • @blunthonesty8633
      @blunthonesty8633 4 місяці тому

      Worst part is that she was involved with Oceangate's activities. So even if only minor she contributed to this disaster, I can't imagine how that must make her feel. My one question is did she know about how her husband was literally building a deathtrap?

  • @elysiabarr425
    @elysiabarr425 7 місяців тому +15

    Does anyone want to ride my cool new car?! It’s made from legos and soda cans

  • @carpe_poon5761
    @carpe_poon5761 7 місяців тому +7

    There’s only been 5 deaths in 50 years in submersible diving. Titan doubled that in one swipe

  • @charleschoate3302
    @charleschoate3302 7 місяців тому +6

    Narcissists are never wrong. Every one else is !

  • @NiteCourt
    @NiteCourt 7 місяців тому +7

    RIP to those 4 victims. Had they been told the truth, I doubt they would have been inside. Now that more and more have come out, what they did to trick people to enter and dive is criminal! Surprised his overly inflated ego didn't get them back to the surface!

    • @thefrase7884
      @thefrase7884 7 місяців тому

      His blatant disregard for safety wasn’t a secret. All they had to do is do their own research. Outside of the 17 year old they all had big egos and thought because they were billionaires they were safe. The hell with them

    • @Frendlu
      @Frendlu Місяць тому +1

      @@NiteCourt maybe the french one. He didnt cared. His wife pased away, and he wanted to be near the Titanic when his end arrives.
      The other 3, most probably were agaisnt this travel if the knew better.

  • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
    @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 місяців тому +19

    For us who were alive in the 70’s the name “OceanGate” have a certain negative sound. 🤔

    • @vicbittertoo
      @vicbittertoo 7 місяців тому

      watergate ??:)

    • @anneheimburger3186
      @anneheimburger3186 7 місяців тому +1

      @@vicbittertoo
      No. Oceangate, a cult group who committed suicide.

    • @batcactus6046
      @batcactus6046 7 місяців тому +10

      @@anneheimburger3186 that was Heaven's Gate.

    • @aadpiraat7126
      @aadpiraat7126 6 місяців тому +3

      So many gates so little time

    • @Grace-s6c2r
      @Grace-s6c2r 2 місяці тому

      Oceans have no gate because it's infinite ❤

  • @daviddavies662
    @daviddavies662 5 місяців тому +1

    Any WW11 Submariner, will recall the noises their sub made when diving to 300 feet. They will also remember those needle jets of water! Steel was very durable and able to absorb tolerable stresses, as the rivetted structure changed domensionally. Fast forward to Epoxy Resins and Carbon Fibre. That Epoxy is more than likely to fracture, rather than deflect, when absorbing dimensional changes. This means it will never return to whence it started from. The nexy time stresses are applied, the fractured Epoxy will simply resemble a poor replica of the pristine original. Goodness knows how long before those coils of Carbon Fibre simple collapsed, when their encapsulation simply crumpled and vapourised under the pressure. There is no way comparisons with pressure changes associated with aviation can be cited, in comparison to sub sea pressures.
    The man was a raving lunatic to believe he had an entity that could demonstrate his submersible had the ability to operate within it's 'Elastic Limit' - which was never evaluated.
    The only saving grace for those, who perished, was the fact they would not have been able to blink an eyelid before eternity embraced them. Future generations will be forever in their debt for preventing replication of this stupid spproach to engineering problems. Challenges remain, of course, to be tackled by 'real engineers' and the support of technology.

  • @SamSung-ww3rp
    @SamSung-ww3rp 7 місяців тому +3

    "Success has many fathers while failure is an orphan."

  • @darcygraham2430
    @darcygraham2430 7 місяців тому +3

    Rush took risks and it backfired. I would have been scared to death descending into the depths in a carbon fibre sub...gotta be steel to withstand the ocean pressing upon you. Heart goes out to those lost, especially the teenager who really did not want to go.

  • @josehonoridez1085
    @josehonoridez1085 7 місяців тому +3

    If I had a "mere" US$250,000, I could do more for the health of the Earth's oceans than most billionaires can!

  • @chrisvigil5018
    @chrisvigil5018 6 місяців тому +2

    As soon as he would show you the game controller. I would have scratched the side of my neck and say "hell no".

  • @cremebrulee4759
    @cremebrulee4759 7 місяців тому +5

    A business opportunity was all that this was to him, a way to make money. He didn't do this out of his love of the Titanic or the excitement of taking people to the Titanic wreck. He did it to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. In order to do that, he constructed a vessel that was cheap, unsafe, and uncertified. His narcissistic arrogance killed four people who trusted him. The other members of management in his company let him do what he wanted to do and refused to listen to employees and others who warned them. I saw a video of them building this disaster, and I was shocked to see both the small amount of adhesive that was being used (2 inches, I think) and that it was applied in an area that was not a clean room. Dust and dirt floating in the air got into that glue and would have made the seal weaker. That, of course, was just one mistake.

  • @ray8304
    @ray8304 7 місяців тому +17

    The mere fact that he built that DEATH TUBE so that the passengers had to be bolted in from the outside without any escape hatch or latch mechanism to exit should have been a huge red flag for anyone considering getting in that THING !! Talk about cutting corners and COST

    • @fanatamon
      @fanatamon 7 місяців тому +2

      And no safety tether the whole thing was the dumbest attempt and design of a craft.

    • @ray8304
      @ray8304 7 місяців тому +2

      @@fanatamon no doubt about it! And, given the fact that there are only 6 such vessels in the entire world that are capable of reaching those depths safely, Rush had to have known the true costs associated with engineering building and testing a submersible capable of carrying 5 people safely with proven materials and technology. He simply didn’t have those resources but was hell bent on finding a solution by using unproven materials and cut corner technology to fast track his vision, which was ultimately his undoing. A classic combination of blind ambition and narcissism

  • @bill6255
    @bill6255 7 місяців тому +7

    "Stockton may blow a gasket and vent @ you..." Oceangate seemed like a well managed organization.

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 7 місяців тому +4

      Rush was a textbook narcissistic abuser/bully. He deserved his fate, but sadly he took four others with him who he'd successfully conned.

    • @bill6255
      @bill6255 7 місяців тому +2

      @@glamdolly30 its giant red flag when everyone around the narcissist is walking on broken glass.

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 7 місяців тому +1

      @@bill6255 VERY true and deeply profound - You said a mouthful there my friend!

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane 7 місяців тому

      @@glamdolly30 The utter stupidity defies belief. I explained what happened the day that titan went missing, but no one wanted to believe me. Fortunately when I was explaining what happened and suggested a solution, someone in the office was recording and subsequently typed it up.
      Here is the edited copy of the basic discussion.
      By simply wrapping the core of a toilet roll in carbon fibre, you can demonstrate it's enormous TENSILE strength, showing that you cannot burst it from the inside. Then you can just crush it from the outside with your bare hands. The only crush strength was from the epoxy, but since it contained air bubbles, they would progressively collapse from the outside on every dive cycle, reducing it's strength to that of a soggy sponge. A far better solution would have been to start off with 2 titanium cylinders of half inch thickness, leaving a 5 inch gap when they were placed one inside the other. These could have been continuously welded into slots machined into the end caps. The cavity could have been evacuated and it's ability to retain a vacuum verified. Using a mixing nozzle and sealed connections to the vacuumed cylinders, the entire cavity could have been filled with high strength low modulus epoxy and left to cure for a few weeks. The whole thing would have needed to be on end and slightly tilted, with injection at the lowest point and vacuum at the highest. A window tank at the top, would have verified complete filling. Needless to say, the epoxy would have needed to be retarded, to allow time for filling before curing commenced.
      This method, using conical removable cones, was used to construct the single piece nose radome of Concorde. Throughout the life of the aircraft they never had a failure. Perhaps the most important factor, is that regular ultrasonic testing could have been performed. The titanium outer shell would have also given good damage resistance and clearly visible marks of any impact.

    • @lindaclarkq8326
      @lindaclarkq8326 7 місяців тому +1

      Actually the smart one was the teenager who really did not want to go but was forced to by his dad.

  • @Kiyoone
    @Kiyoone 7 місяців тому +3

    "Disaster" is when people does not have any guilt on it... SO this is FAR from a DISASTER;

  • @StillAliveAndKicking_
    @StillAliveAndKicking_ 7 місяців тому +2

    He was a pure genius. Sorry, typo, he was a puréed genius.

  • @Left_4_Dead1997
    @Left_4_Dead1997 5 місяців тому +1

    its crazy that they got turned to pink mist in less then a millisecond, thats equivlent to ceasing to exist...0

  • @sycomantz
    @sycomantz 4 місяці тому +1

    Once in a lifetime trip. Thats for sure!

  • @crikker9447
    @crikker9447 7 місяців тому +7

    Who the hell designs a sub where you are literally bolted inside?

  • @dianesaienni5466
    @dianesaienni5466 7 місяців тому +13

    they knew pretty quickly that it imploded

    • @SeriousSchitt
      @SeriousSchitt 7 місяців тому

      “They” = the passengers?

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 7 місяців тому +2

      @@SeriousSchitt I assume the OP means the coastguard/authorities knew. It's now established that they were aware of an underwater sound suspected to be the Titan imploding, at about the same time it lost contact with the mother ship. It's tragic fate was known immediately.
      It was crazy how the coastguard was briefing the media for days about a wide search, so many hours of oxygen left for the 5 men etc, etc, when they knew full well the Titan and its occupants were no more, and exactly where the wreck lay - immediately beneath the point it entered the water, close to the 'Titanic'.
      James Cameron has condemned this prolonged deception, not least because it gave relatives of the dead false hope.

    • @Billpeterson4785
      @Billpeterson4785 4 місяці тому

      Immediately…Navy notified Coast Guard, someone even told Cameron. Media still did a ridiculous “oxygen” count down

  • @DerexLuvsJenkins
    @DerexLuvsJenkins 7 місяців тому +24

    “ WE’RE ALL GONNA F**KING DIE”
    Stockton’s last words ….

    • @vanderlinde4you
      @vanderlinde4you 7 місяців тому +13

      Nah. Carbon fiber does not give a warning; it just shatters and due to the pressure at those levels everyone was instant compressed to an hamburger - not even time to feel, see or respond to what was happening.

    • @TheIndependentLens
      @TheIndependentLens 7 місяців тому +7

      @@vanderlinde4you oh they knew something was gonna happen. The amount of noise it was making by then let them know.

    • @vanderlinde4you
      @vanderlinde4you 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheIndependentLens It does not warn - it does immediately shatter.

    • @TheIndependentLens
      @TheIndependentLens 7 місяців тому +9

      @@vanderlinde4you oh no, all the popping and cracking sounds. 100% it was doing this prior to shattering. It would do this even before on prior trips as the hull got weaker.

    • @enamoradadebtsl1729
      @enamoradadebtsl1729 7 місяців тому +3

      @@TheIndependentLens Las transmisiones que según se filtraron son falsas, las desmintieron, además los monitores que avisan de la integridad del casco, solo lo hacían cuando ya era inminente el problema, así que para cuando vieron la alarma, ya no existían

  • @dannydarko6929
    @dannydarko6929 7 місяців тому +6

    Can't believe that tax payers were the real victims. Oceangate should be held accountable for all the costs incurred. "Banging noises" what a joke!

  • @joshlowe3509
    @joshlowe3509 7 місяців тому +3

    Oceangate should get an invoice for EVERY bit of fuel, manpower and equipment used in the search...

  • @rossilavery
    @rossilavery 7 місяців тому +1

    11:27 - "Turns out that was the original name of the vessel Oceangate would later call... EueURrR THE Titan."

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 7 місяців тому +1

    They literally charged a $¼ million PER person! So they should have done a lot more to make that sub Fully capable of handling the pressures & compression forces that they were putting their sub through. It takes just a mild understanding of physics/material science/engineering design, to realize there is something seriously wrong about the current design they were using. The hull was connected to the end cap with adhesive glue and some bolts to connect metal to carbon fiber. The hull was spun in a linear manner without any woven patterns or reinforced structures. They should have AT LEAST made a sub with a much more durable, strong, reinforced, trusted material & shape design. I'm all for innovation and trying new things and pushing the boundaries but when it comes to exploring the deep ocean you DEFINITELY want to make sure your sub capsule does not implode. It needs to be able to endure the environment you are going to... There is no wiggle room when it comes to this & they already are charging a TON per person anyway sooo, why not make it work? If they did, they would still be having a huge income situation happening. Yet they only cared about the money income and not the engineering design safety that is required in order to keep receiving that financial income..

  • @Pidgeonz
    @Pidgeonz 22 дні тому

    10:32 So, a guy with one eye designed the steering system for the sub?..You can see his right eye moves but his left eye doesnt..Usually the sign of a false eye.

  • @madezra64
    @madezra64 7 місяців тому +2

    What's with the random couple frames towards the end with the Riot Studio's logo lol?

  • @matthewrowe9903
    @matthewrowe9903 7 місяців тому +2

    The company was badly run and staffed by foolish people but the universitys and other bodies who should have picked up the blatant stupidity of this design deserve full investigation

  • @johnshaw359
    @johnshaw359 7 місяців тому +2

    Pick up 50 litres of water to see how heavy that is, much less miles and miles of it on top of you, no way, not in this thing.

    • @Fantomas24ARM
      @Fantomas24ARM 6 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@johnshaw359 just 10 meters of water equals the pressure of the whole atmosphere.
      4 kilometers is just insane.

  • @edpublic
    @edpublic 6 місяців тому +1

    If you know AnyThing of the Ocean you Know at that depth there is No Rescue,,,you come back,,or not.

  • @edpublic
    @edpublic 6 місяців тому +2

    WaterGate,,,HeavensGate,,,,OceanGate,,, 🤔 theres a Pattern forming Here.

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 7 місяців тому +5

    This is still a rich persons follie. Adding certifications will only make it less affordable. Watch what the various space tourism groups are doing. Eventually they will have an issue. If you want to standardize vessel safety it will have to be on the engineering and construction side.

    • @iamcase1245
      @iamcase1245 7 місяців тому +1

      Certifications still put the responsibility on engineering which is where it should be. The Canadians put Americans through hell when it comes to crossing the border, many times out of sheer racism, but let this experimental sub launch from Newfoundland without so much as a form having to be filled out. Then when the ship imploded they tucked tail and deferred to the American Coast Guard and refused to talk to the media. An International standard or certification would've stopped this.

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 7 місяців тому

      @@iamcase1245 actually it’s the other way around at the border. Getting into Canada is easy. Getting back into the states is way harder than the opposite. I like how your brain washed thinking racism is the issue.

    • @philhealey4443
      @philhealey4443 7 місяців тому +2

      This and space tourism is perhaps a good thing to waste money on if you are in the last stage of a terminal illness.

  • @krisssylouise
    @krisssylouise 6 місяців тому

    Have we seen any evidence of the sub-fragment parts as of yet? Are there any links to share to the wreckage?

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 6 місяців тому

      there were vids and pics of the wreckage being brought up. the only intact pieces were the titanium end caps that were covered with cloth since the pate was infused into the metal.

  • @deafviolinist
    @deafviolinist 7 місяців тому +5

    wealthy underwater cabal Scooby Dooing us away from their Shangilatlantis, baby!

  • @MsCellobass
    @MsCellobass 7 місяців тому +4

    Seriously? Designed to go back up?! THEY WERE HAVING MASSIVE PROBLEMS ASCENDING!

  • @willenhallred7057
    @willenhallred7057 7 місяців тому +2

    break the rules pay the price
    however risk you own life not other people's

  • @TreesRgreen123
    @TreesRgreen123 7 місяців тому

    It's almost as if the souls that went down with the Titanic had enough of people making money by visiting their grave in the ocean and decided to teach Titan a lesson as a warning to others not to try it again either

  • @ANGUS4705
    @ANGUS4705 2 місяці тому

    Well, Oceangate did indeed describe being bolted into that oversized Tonka Toy, built out of two dustbin lids glued to a cylinder of gaffer tape "a once in a lifetime experience". Can't fault them on that.

  • @jasonlinton9902
    @jasonlinton9902 4 місяці тому +1

    Titan was built to go no more than 1500 feet but rush took the titan 12500 feet enough info for me what a stupid thing to do

  • @behindthespotlight7983
    @behindthespotlight7983 3 місяці тому

    Anyone else find it odd that through the course of this entire story no one has raised a word on the now-known fact that the US Navy has international waters wired so tightly that they heard the Titan implosion in real time over 400 nautical miles from the US? Does the Navy have the oceans of the world essentially under comprehensive, 24/7 surveillance?

  • @1805movie
    @1805movie 7 місяців тому +1

    Stockton Rush was the Timothy Treadwell of the Ocean.

  • @lisam8044
    @lisam8044 7 місяців тому +2

    This contraption looks nothing like the professional submers , why would someone pay that money for a container with a tiny window?

  • @lungotevere
    @lungotevere 7 місяців тому +2

    The first half of this piece is repetitive of previous reports, but the second part starts introducing some new information, and the end ads some overdue strong treatment of what led to these deaths. 🤬

  • @partickthompson1164
    @partickthompson1164 4 місяці тому

    The submersible Stockton , used was carbon fiber . This material was not meant for under water use .The hull became weaker with every wet dry cycle . Also I think carbon fiber should be used in association with main components not as a main component . The reasoning is Carbon fiber is a strong substance but when it fails. It’s always catastrophic

  • @rdwoodw
    @rdwoodw 7 місяців тому +2

    I would argue that the expedition didn't "turn into a nightmare" for the people on board. One minute they were probably talking about random shit and one millisecond later they were dead. I think a nightmare isn't a nightmare unless it is realized by the conscious mind.

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii 7 місяців тому

      According to two separate interviews with James Cameron, the crew knew they were in trouble. The submersible and the tender ship MV Polar Prince were equipped with acoustic modems and they were in communication. The submersible hull contained imbedded acoustic and strain sensors that were connected to the computer that ran the sub. Apparently the hull sensors warned of an impending failure and they aborted the dive. They were not able to ascend and had to release their ballast. With the ballast released they had begun a very slow ascent, slowed likely by intrusion of water into carbon fiber hull. Then they imploded. But Cameron is on record stating they were aware they were in trouble.

  • @Gamepak
    @Gamepak 7 місяців тому +1

    im sorry for the boy, he didnt want to go, they got what they payed for

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 7 місяців тому +5

    They weren't wrong, it was a once in a lifetime trip

  • @mikemccormick8115
    @mikemccormick8115 6 місяців тому +1

    I dont have the slightest interest in observing the wreckage. I dont know why anyone would, why there is any commercial demand at all, even at zero cost and no risk.

    • @naturalselection1096
      @naturalselection1096 6 місяців тому +1

      It depends on the person. There are millions of people fascinated by the Titanic. And if you were to offer them a real way to go see the Titanic at a semi affordable price, in a safe vehicle, oh hell yes people would do it.
      The Titanic movie is the 4th most grossing movie ever. At one point, it was the number 1 grossing.

    • @mikemccormick8115
      @mikemccormick8115 6 місяців тому

      @@naturalselection1096 Lot of people are fascinated by little.

  • @angusgafraidh2255
    @angusgafraidh2255 Місяць тому

    Well, to be fair, what was "billed as a once in a lifetime trip" was in fact a once in a lifetime trip. I don't see them doing it again, do you?

  • @WolfRanger2008
    @WolfRanger2008 7 місяців тому +11

    All the material discussed in this presentation has been previously expressed numerous times.

  • @thereasonableconsumer
    @thereasonableconsumer 7 місяців тому +5

    They all signed the death waivers. They were instantly turned into plankton food paste. Sad about the teenager, but the others went down for the clout.

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 7 місяців тому

      That's harsh. The Titanic expert was there for his love of the Titanic, not for clout. He worked for the company as a sort of tour guide. He didn't pay a fare to be there.

    • @bunnyban5365
      @bunnyban5365 7 місяців тому

      No matter how stupid the situation is, you can not blame the passengers 😮
      They genuinely trusted this stockton guy

    • @thereasonableconsumer
      @thereasonableconsumer 7 місяців тому

      ​@@bunnyban5365 true, he was very convincing like a salesman. I guess we have all been fooled at some point. Sad it cost them their lives.

  • @jrbaretta
    @jrbaretta 7 місяців тому +2

    T he Titan was an unscientific toy. And yet a minor was allowed to die in this toy.

  • @laurenherda2415
    @laurenherda2415 7 місяців тому

    At least they went quickly, i can't imagine being lost and stuck in that thing, and knowing our oxygen would run out and we would die, that feeling would be more terrifying. Quickly imploding you dont know its happening, i feel for that kid who did it to please his dad he didn't want to go, you don't mess with the ocean period especially when youre not experienced, having millions and billions of dollars to do something doesn’t mean you should

  • @joshthemediocre7824
    @joshthemediocre7824 7 місяців тому +1

    There is a person on Ebay asking $100,000 for a Xbox 5 controller, they call a submarine controller. lol. I think from what i gather, Stockton knew it was only a matter of time, his fame was going to be made after death, i think that became the plan after starting with the best intentions.

  • @SeriousSchitt
    @SeriousSchitt 7 місяців тому +6

    I wouldn’t have built the thing out of Carbon Fiber, I’d have built it fully out of Titanium, even bracing the internals with several 2 by 4’s for added structural integrity.

    • @TheIndependentLens
      @TheIndependentLens 7 місяців тому

      Yes!!! Forward thinking!

    • @vanderlinde4you
      @vanderlinde4you 7 місяців тому +2

      While steel would have done the job better - left or right it would have easily added extra weight and it needed to be much bigger to counter balance the weight difference. aka way more expensive then this backyard thing was.

    • @TheRocco96
      @TheRocco96 7 місяців тому

      Titanium is very strong but it's also flexible that it bends under heavy load (and recovers when the load is removed). May not be the best choice for a sub.

    • @Karagianis
      @Karagianis 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheRocco96 Titanium worked pretty well for the DSV Alvin, the first subersible to visit Titanic.

  • @notyouraverageharleyquinnstan
    @notyouraverageharleyquinnstan 7 місяців тому +3

    🕊

  • @Belzediel
    @Belzediel 7 місяців тому

    What was the failure point of the Titan?

    • @Infinite-void908
      @Infinite-void908 7 місяців тому +3

      The entire carbon fiber hull.

    • @helenllama
      @helenllama 7 місяців тому +1

      Or the entire carbon fibre hull aided by the weakness in the joins with the Titanium End Caps

    • @Belzediel
      @Belzediel 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Infinite-void908 Oh, OK. So, it wasn't the window, or the seals or anything else. Cool. Where can I go find that information?
      There's an official NTSB report on that, right?

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 місяців тому +1

      Obviously nobodys knows, but there’s always guessing.

    • @Belzediel
      @Belzediel 7 місяців тому

      @@kasperkjrsgaard1447 yeah. I don't see much of this being presented as 'pulled out of my ass'. I do see a lot of people who know absolutely nothing repeating the same babbling nonsense, though.

  • @adikurnia5364
    @adikurnia5364 7 місяців тому +1

    Trully "ONCE" In "LIFETIME"

  • @greglane3978
    @greglane3978 7 місяців тому

    When non technical people run technical companies. The path Boeing has been going down since the McDonald Douglas merger.

  • @441rider
    @441rider 7 місяців тому +1

    Did the French guy onboard own or partly own salvage rights? Seems like the incentive was salvage with tourism thrown in.

  • @karenmarlowe242
    @karenmarlowe242 Місяць тому

    ❤feels like Rush really should have been disallowed from being able to skirt around the safety rules. Too late.

  • @clovenhoofdragon9302
    @clovenhoofdragon9302 3 місяці тому

    Launching airplanes to ‘search’ for a missing Submarine seems kinda pointless. Can airplanes now swim?

  • @johnnyblaze8439
    @johnnyblaze8439 7 місяців тому

    Stockton should have been mandated to where his helmet at all times.

  • @SamSung-ww3rp
    @SamSung-ww3rp 7 місяців тому

    No one believes he wasn't extremely intelligent which is why people just really don't understand why he did not know better. Why would you not consistently test the passenger capsule every single time it returned from a mission. A friend of mine always says that when you are on mission it's what you don't see is the thing that will kill you. Imagine what type of stress the capsule took being pulled behind the ship. So very,very sad!

  • @the6ig6adwolf
    @the6ig6adwolf 7 місяців тому

    Disaster: sudden event, such as an accident or a natural catastrophe, that causes great damage or loss of life.
    What happened that day could have easily been avoided and, therefore, not a disaster.

  • @jeffreymanestar5319
    @jeffreymanestar5319 7 місяців тому +1

    "Amazing and u all r making dreams come true" .......if u dream was to b vaporized in a millisecond.

  • @bluetopguitar1104
    @bluetopguitar1104 7 місяців тому

    Why are you targeting the backers. Sorry, but all the responsibility is on Rush. Don't do a hatchet job for Your Ratings. He was warned by many.

  • @franceskeith4934
    @franceskeith4934 7 місяців тому +1

    i think james camron and sabatoge bob ballard too

  • @CajunBooThing
    @CajunBooThing 7 місяців тому +2

    "I want to bring the oceans depths to ALL people."
    "Ohhh, that's nice, Stockton, what's the price for us ALL?"
    "What, I didn't get that...too much static...gotta go..."

  • @kgraham5820
    @kgraham5820 6 місяців тому

    It wasn’t Rush's love of anything in the ocean, nor love for the Titanic. It wasn’t even about the love of exploration. It was about Rush's love for the almighty dollar, for "business opportunities." For being so intelligent, he sure was shallow.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 6 місяців тому

      if he wanted to make money he wouldn't have been in undersea tourism. It costs over a million dollars for a ship to take a capable submersible to the Titanic site. One of the billionaires had the opportunity to go on Limiting Factor for a million dollars. Limiting Factor had taken this "billionaire" to the Challenger Deep the deepest point in the oceans.

  • @TheMightyCookieShow
    @TheMightyCookieShow 7 місяців тому +2

    I will challenge Stockton Rush on the affordability of this for everyone like he said.

  • @Chawncey777
    @Chawncey777 4 місяці тому

    "Savant Syndrome" Educated in Engineering., S. Rush purchased Carbon Fiber from Airline Manufacture who rejected it as it was considered below standards of quality control S.R. :"Mondus Operandi " Money before Safety.Never should be alowed to carry human lives RIP